Why is manga on average so much better than anime?

Why is manga on average so much better than anime?

Better animation and voice acting.

It's much easier to make.

this and have more artistic control over what you write (most of time) so we have more stuff that doesn't feel like "the ecchi show of this season"

Because there are more of it.

Your thread just got deleted.
Fuck off.

The opposite could also be used against it though, although I could see where you guys are coming from. If you have more editorial and more people to work with rather than just one guy exchanging ideas it could lead to a better and more developed idea.

Wouldn't that mean there's more shit though?

I swear to God I wasn't that other thread, if you're referring to the one asking about "japanese manga".

That is not true. Editors for most magazines have more creative control unless they are established or it's a small magazine. There are exceptions, but not many. An example of this would be interviews in the spinoff magazines of "Big Comic" for example, "Big Comic Spirits" amongst several others. Same with lower-grade Kodansha stuff. The only way I can agree with you is we are only talking about usually a single mangaka or in some instances a duo and rarely a trio working on a manga unlike an animation studio team consisting of 20+ workers on all different cylinders not to mention outsourced help with certain episodes, animation cuts, sounds, etc.
Only true due to the fact of how many people are on an average animation team for a regular seasonal anime. This will never change due to the culture standard set by manga and anime so I must agree.

Same reason why book readers on general are better human beings than movie watchers

>Why is manga on average so much better than anime?

It's not and the whole idea that it is is a hipster meme. There's more shit manga than there is shit anime and the best anime are typically anime originals or adaptations that massively diverge from their source material. There aren't much more hidden but secretly good manga out there then there are anime.

Japan's preference for manga is purely a logistical thing.

>Wouldn't that mean there's more shit though?
Yes. And?
>The opposite could also be used against it though, although I could see where you guys are coming from.
Both, have their advantages and disadvantages.

Manga is not better on average since there is much more manga is created than anime, but it's cheaper and easier to produce. This leads to a greater variety overall.

Manga is cheaper to make from a business standpoint.
It's incredibly toilsome for the author, even with assistants, but for the publisher company manga is practically never a risk investment, unlike anime.
This means that publishers and authors can take a lot more risks with manga on what comes to the subject matter or themes of any given title. Of course publications prefer manga that fits to the demographic of its general reader base, so you go to a publication for your work that you think fits their catalog.
Manga also has like an astronomically larger consumer base than anime. I heard from somewhere that manga is the second most bought commodity in Japan following food. I'm kind of inclined to believe that.
Practically everyone reads something sometime. This means that there is a huge variety of different manga catering to a very wide array of interests and preferences.
As for whether manga is better on average or not is kind of irrelevant. The sheer amount of difference between quantity just means that you're most likely to find more uniqueness in the realm of manga.

>user talks out of his arse: the post

Top notch blog user.

Kind of off topic, but are mangakas, specifically weekly shounen mangaka actually the hardest working people in the entertainment industry point blank? I mean when you see the average schedule of one and how so many work themselves to death, I really can't think of anything that can compare.

People can just draw whatever they want instead of having to follow budgetary restrictions or trends.

>how so many work themselves to death
Excluding Tezuka wanting to draw on his deathbed who has this actually happened to?

Please give me reason to believe that I'm wrong then.

>As for whether manga is better on average or not is kind of irrelevant.
It is though.

>The sheer amount of difference between quantity just means that you're most likely to find more uniqueness in the realm of manga.
But the most unique and ambitious anime have few parallels in manga.

I can understand this settlement, but we must also take in account there is an incredible amount of manga publication magazines homing manga. New manga are more likely to never get translated than anime simply because manga has a way higher output than anime. If we go back and look at the ratio of anime that received a 6.75 or higher on MAL compared to manga who received a 6.75 or higher on MAL since 2000, more manga would win. Granted when I did this statsical analysis I could only use MAL because it would take much longer to use lets say volume and dvd/blu-ray sales because I gurantee more people are likely to use a streaming service, watch on tv, or watch illegally than to also get the retail publication. More anime is being pumped out than ever, but the same for manga and more manga has always been produced by the sheer fact it's quicker to make a manga than an anime (not necessarily easier). And if you honestly believe there aren't more manga out there that are of at the very least good quality to anime, you're fooling yourself.
I agree with you 100%, you seem to be a very logical person compared to other imbeciles on this thread.
Exactly.
Pretty much most weekly mangaka are like this especially in big magazines like Jump and Weekly Shonen Magazine.
There were several cases in the 90's this happened to, but recently it's moreso they are getting very sick and you pretty much can't escape hearing at least once a month in a single magazine that one of the mangaka is very sick or something.
I agree in your statement towards, as shown in my first comment.

Artistic freedom. There are a lot of good manga out there while for anime I can't say that.

Tezuka had cancer and If I remember well Kawashima finished Alive on his deathbed.

>But the most unique and ambitious anime have few parallels in manga.
Sure, but I didn't write anything about the high points of quality, just quantity of what is usually considered unique, experimental, daring or niche, because there's so much more manga than there is anime.
Manga has more authorial leeway, despite editorial decisions from the publisher.
People who could be considered anime auteurs are very few. In manga such creative control is much more easily attained, because as said the cost of producing it being low, and most likely there being some kind of an audience for it, allows for risks.

Japan has a thing where they stretch manga to cover too many minutes of animation leading to extreme boredom while in the west studios adapt books where they leave half of it out due to time restraints.

Why are light novels better than both?

>flip the pages quickly
>get an anime

who cares about objectivity of manga being better than anime?
[translated] manga is on par or a only tiny bit better than anime.

>light novels
They aren't.

Light novels are a completely different beast. They have been around for a long ass time and have or at least had a distinct culture until they got wrapped together with anime and manga in the early 2000's since they were on that thin line.

they are merging with smartphone novels as we speak and it's like that cultural 'enrichment' pol talks so much about.

Precisely this.

Because it's easy to make, there's way more variety and therefore the probability of appearing a good story is higher, on average, than in anime.

Because it's easy to make, there're probably lots of people making manga and trying to publish, that means popular magazines receive lots of stories and can be very picky about which one they'll publish.

Competition and variety makes manga, on average, much better than anime storywise.

Artwise, manga usually have better art because it's static, but that's obvious.

At the beginning, there's only one person that has control over the story and the art. There's nobody in the way of your creativity.
If you're lazy and can't draw, though, LNs are for you. You can hire somebody to be an illustrator for you, and all you need to do is write an entertaining story.
>all small caps
>wrong use of "cultural enrichment"
>saying just "pol" instead of "Sup Forums"
Please leave.

This

Who the fuck actually enjoy reading light novel?

The writing is fucking terrible, like 9 out of 10 time i feel like i was reading some shitty fanfiction on tumblr

Have fun with your memetic mutation of the very LN term then, it pretty much went from just short story literature form to imaginary ego shitposting and there are people who buy that anyway because japanese generally don't pirate.

Tezuka had hepatitis c, he didn't literally work himself to death but if he hadn't worked so hard the disease wouldn't have finished him off. Ishinomori died of a heart condition at 60, his workload probably didn't help. Shigeru Mizuki said he used to be horrified at the two of them boasting about drawing four or five stories at a time, killing themselves for art. By contrast he lived to 93, not too unusual in Japan but a rarity in a high stress occupation as a mangaka.

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>i feel like i was reading some shitty fanfiction on tumblr
Because you practically are. LNs have like zero quality control.

There's a metric fuckton more of it.

The wordings feel so fucking simple as well

Like i was reading some kinda shit for elementary kids

That's because you're unable to appreciate the technical aspects of anime. You also can't appreciate the fact that anime production unites many talents and has a lot more at stake.
The criteria for judging anime and manga are also different.

Consider the readership and it makes sense. Not that the authors were capable of much eloquence in the first place.
Fan translation quality certainly doesn't help either.

If you want to say anime is better just say it.

You sound like fucking Digibro

Animes adapted from light novels are good because the film makes have more material to work on so theres less downtime in the end product. The anime artstyle is criticized less because the reader isnt watching the characters pictures most of the time.

>animes
leave

Light Novels are easier to make than manga, yet manga is, on average, better than LNs.

you can go into the story much more with manga
it's less likely to be riddled with retarded fan service
it's easier and much more enjoyable to read than to watch (at least for me)

>it's less likely to be riddled with retarded fan service

I'm not sure about that actually

>more room for artistic talent and more room for plot development because of no animation budget/restrictions

idk user pretty hard question desu

Ok then why are LN garbage compared to manga and anime on average even though that's the easiest to make?

You shouldn't be allowed to discuss manga unless you can read Japanese expertly.
Also, a terrible art can ruin an otherwise fun story. This makes me so fucking mad I see red sometimes.

Because you're not reading the stuff penned by legitimate studios and directors.
Unfortunately, the state of industry's taste has led to random otakubaiting schlock getting picked up so going by the "it got adapted" metric is no longer valid.

LNs are written by people who can't write well enough to make actual literature, or people who would like to make manga, but can't draw.
There's literally no risk to publish the stuff because it's cheap to produce, and otaku without any semblance of good taste will eat battle academy harems and shit like that right up anyway.

>the people who read manga but sadly still indulge in battle shounen trash

Literally don't know how people stomach shit like Boruto anymore.

Newfags, casualfags and i am sure a good sized of the bleachfags too

Manga is, on average, defiantly worse than anime exactly because it's easier to make and publish. Since all it takes to make a manga is one dedicated guy able to draw shitting out a derivative version of a story he likes with a novel gimmick, of course most manga are gonna be trash. But you don't see that since only a small part of manga is being scanlated and that small part is cream of the crop of what manga has to offer, while comparatively small amount of anime is almost fully accessible along with the most trashy entries.

I don't think doujinshi counts

The best of manga will always be better than the best of anime

I mean, who the fuck actually count every single literally who manga ever published

>The best of manga will always be better than the best of anime
Why?

Because read the thread

Because animating is harder than hand drawing pictures and less effective

You are retarded

No u

That's right and put under the best hands with top tier animation voice acting and direction it will be better.

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Basically the skill roof is higher

I like reading a manga and seeing the artist get better during the run.

That's because its too easy to make, any untalented hack can write something

You get more content for the same time spent.

Manga has better art and pace

Anime has shittier art and pace but it is okay if you are one of the brainlet who can only enjoy something if they are animated and colored

There are a shitton of manga magazines each running dozens of series that get quickly canceled and replaced, so it follows that manga produces larger quantities of trash than anime.

Not from a storytelling perspective since the goal of most manga is to be as "hype" on per-chapter basis as they can, and not to tell a compelling story in the most efficient manner. The advantage of more artistic freedom manga has over anime that should have theoretically lead to the production better works of fiction in manga form didn't really transfer into reality.

Detailed characters with shitty perspective and composition is not good art. Also, the better pace thing is just your delusion.

>hype" on per-chapter basis as they can

Yeah in garbage magazines like shounen jump.

Its the original and you can't beat it. Only if somehow the original is bad then maybe anime is a bit better.

Anime movies have better quality

There are cases where the anime adaptation is considerably better than its source material.

Process is like novels

writing part is just a guy and his pen (and probably assistants), editors just approve it for the most part (unless it's Jump)

Light novels are basically just anime scripts.

They still make anime storyboards in silent manga format. Manga is better!

Manga also have more credibility where Japan is concern.

I remember people saying that Japan both young and old read more manga on average than anime.

Those are an exception though and they are still quite rare, the overwhelming majority of the time the manga is better than the anime.

Practically everyone reads manga. Anime is a nerd hobby. Going deep into manga is a nerdy hobby as well, but there are a lot, a lot, of casual readers.

There's a lot of shitty manga, but also a lot of shitty anime. Hard to say which is higher in that regard. But there are tons of great manga running all the time, in all kinds of genres. Whereas for anime you'e lucky to get 1 or 2 watchable shows per season, let alone maybe one truly good or great one per year. So manga wins.

because the best manga will never be adapted

They're really not. all the 'good manga' fags just have shit taste.

seems to have a lot more variety than anime

especially when it comes to genres

That's because Japanese people never learn how to read. It's their language that is too difficult. On top of translators not being able to properly translate shit.

Isn't that the neckbeard who tried to defend moeblobs by saying they have deeper meaning/value?

actual Japan authors would know more varieties of Kanji

they're called Light Novels because they are "light" on the kanji

>actual Japan authors would know
But the general public wouldn't. That's why light novels are the industry. Their own language is holding them back

is this from a manga or solo image?

yes

Kanji is so counterproductive as a writing system.
In alphabetic writing, ability to read and understanding are separate. When you learn a new word in alphabetic language you know already how to write and say it, more or less. When you encounter something you don't understand it will be easy to determine the meaning since you know how to read it, and how it sounds.
Logogram system lacks these advantages.
The argument for logograms is that once you know the symbol you know the word, and unlike alphabetic system where graphemes represent a certain sound, the meaning is conveyed to the reader regardless whether they know how to say it or not, but learning all the different intricate characters by heart and actually writing that shit takes so much more time and effort than chaining alphabet together to form words.

very clever of you,
google image shows noroi michiru as
artist

But there's no such thing as seasonal manga

you can set your watch to anime but talking about "recent manga" let along the good ones is hard to do.

Because the inbetweeners working in your head are so much better than the ones they subcontract in the Philippines.

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>animes
Fucking newfags

read the ones with suicide in the tags

Basically this.

heh

>new mediums exist now hurrrr