Capitalism rewards individuals arbitrarily and is antithetical to evolution

Carter Brooks
Carter Brooks

Prove me wrong faggots. Protip: You can't.
Inb4 Muh capitalism lifts people out of poverty and I will ignore the fact that modern capitalism benefited from centuries of human tech advancement under monarchies and theocracies.

All urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment

Liam Lee
Liam Lee

what is your alternative

Luis Phillips
Luis Phillips

Communism rewards individuals universally and is antithetical to evolution

Jackson Ramirez
Jackson Ramirez

Evolution is exposed as a meme every time it is tested objectively.
Speckled moths my ass

Levi Jones
Levi Jones

Real capitalism has never even been tried! Just the other day I was forced by the government to sell a gay wedding cake for the same price as a real wedding cake! Was gonna charge those faggots a million buckeroos!

Fuck fake capitalism we need to abolish welfare and free education

Cooper Green
Cooper Green

Fascism and monarchism are the only moral ideologies

Samuel Miller
Samuel Miller

Fucking slide-thread Jew. The only acceptable form of communism is national bolshevism.

Liam Collins
Liam Collins

Official soviet policy was to deny evolution as we currently understand it.

Joshua Kelly
Joshua Kelly

what is your alternative
Democratic communism.

Thomas Anderson
Thomas Anderson

Communism rewards individuals universally and is antithetical to evolution
Humans discovered farming more than 12,000 years ago. We've long gone off the path of evolution. Capitalism tries to replicate a jungle environment in a world where 1 billion people grow crops sufficient to feed 7.2 billion people. Thus, 6.2 billion people receive rewards that are arbitrary in nature.

White faggot.

Ryder Johnson
Ryder Johnson

and accept it as soon as the asshat is dead

Benjamin Roberts
Benjamin Roberts

Evolution is exposed as a meme every time it is tested objectively.
My brain is exposed as a meme every time it is tested objectively.
FTFY

Also, since you have a pea sized brain, I think wikipedia should be enough for you
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment

Doubt you will be able to understand any of the papers related to the long term e-coli experiment.

Lucas Gray
Lucas Gray

Real capitalism has never even been tried!
I'll bite. Why do you say that? Rather, what would it take for real capitalism to be implemented?
Fuck fake capitalism we need to abolish welfare and free education
Hmmmm. You've got my almonds activated. Please elaborate more on your idea of ideal capitalism.

Samuel Fisher
Samuel Fisher

Why do you say it's arbitrary?

Elijah Hernandez
Elijah Hernandez

makes original argument about evolution
gets BTFO
Humans discovered farming more than 12,000 years ago. We've long gone off the path of evolution.
Just kys.

Aiden Scott
Aiden Scott

Why do you say it's arbitrary?
Humans discovered farming more than 12,000 years ago. We've long gone off the path of evolution. Capitalism tries to replicate a jungle environment in a world where 1 billion people grow crops sufficient to feed 7.2 billion people. Thus, 6.2 billion people receive rewards that are arbitrary in nature.

Nicholas Collins
Nicholas Collins

Lysenkoism is still prevelant thought in the various institutions. All this one human race is an extension of that thought. Though they gave up trying to apply that to basic plant life like turning wheat into rye and other crazy shit.

Leo Cruz
Leo Cruz

Because not everyone gets a wholly equal amount while they butt fuck each other in peace and harmony.

Joshua White
Joshua White

Why did you sign your post?

Liam Moore
Liam Moore

makes original argument about evolution
Capitalism is antithetical to evolution was my assertion, yes, this is true.
gets BTFO
Why? Because some faggot said communism is antithetical to evolution without proof?
Humans discovered farming more than 12,000 years ago. We've long gone off the path of evolution.
How is this contradictory to me saying capitalism is antithetical to evolution?
Just kys.
I don't kill myself because retards want me to.

Colton Walker
Colton Walker

No one cares faggot, kill yourself.

Brayden Edwards
Brayden Edwards

Capitalism
Human needs are simple. Air, Water, Food, and Shelter.
All of these things are free in America, under capitalism.
Men who want more than the basics, work for it.

Women are attracted to successful men, and they choose to have their babies, thus ensuring the continuation of the species.

Brody Green
Brody Green

Why did you sign your post?
Kek. This was a good riposte faggot.

Brandon Nguyen
Brandon Nguyen

No one cares faggot, kill yourself.
No one cares about my faggotiness. I should kill myself.
FTFY.

Lucas Sullivan
Lucas Sullivan

Human needs are simple. Air, Water, Food, and Shelter.
All of these things are free in America, under the petrodollar which transfers wealth from other nations to America simply because America bullies Saudi Arabia to sell oil in dollars.
FTFY.
Women are attracted to successful men
So I take it you're single?

Logan Perez
Logan Perez

Do not reply to troll threads.
Sage, Report, Move on.

Josiah Gomez
Josiah Gomez

Do not reply to troll threads.
Sage, Report, Move on.
Don't forget to sage in the options field.

Also, you don't have any arguments faggot.

Chase Jenkins
Chase Jenkins

So I take it you're single?
No, I have 5 white children.

Adrian Lewis
Adrian Lewis

I see your point, but a system doesn't have to distribute wealth equally.
A system could be set up to delibrately distribute wealth unequally based on some factor.
The statement capitalism rewards people arbitrarly is itself arbitrarly and vague. You could make any argument to make it true or false depending on your point of view.
Also, when OP is not referring to the antithesis of evolution, I assume it's not referring to biological evolution; survival of the fittest.

Carson Phillips
Carson Phillips

So capitalism is fare and we all have an equal chance of becoming rich... Got it.

Justin Davis
Justin Davis

So I take it you're single?
No, I have 5 white children.
Are any of them yours?

Aiden Morales
Aiden Morales

So capitalism is fare and we all have an equal chance of becoming rich... Got it.
No. That's the other extreme. A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve - that does not mean everyone is equally rich - it certainly means some will get more than others. The point here is not communism is better than capitalism. The argument is that Capitalism is not a fair system and it rewards individuals arbitrarily.

Hudson Rivera
Hudson Rivera

communism rewards a small group of elites, genocides the middle class, and leaves the poor in much deeper poverty.

under capitalism, "poverty" is eating steak dinners every night with your EBT card

Landon Gutierrez
Landon Gutierrez

it rewards individuals arbitrarily.
But isn't this technically fare since everyone has a chance at getting rewarded. You are essentially arguing that a random lottery is unfair because some people win sometimes.

Jason Roberts
Jason Roberts

communism rewards a small group of elites, genocides the middle class, and leaves the poor in much deeper poverty.
Capitalism rewards a small group of elites, genocides the middle class in the long run, and leaves the hard-working in much deeper poverty since they have to continuously work more and more just to maintain the same standard of living.
FTFY

under capitalism, "poverty" is eating steak dinners every night with your EBT card
under capitalism, "poverty" is eating steak dinners every night with your EBT card since other principled and moral individuals put in more effort so that you can leech off of them.
FTFY.

Jose Gonzalez
Jose Gonzalez

Not surprising that you "it takes a village" folks question paternity. Yes, they are all mine.

Nicholas Reed
Nicholas Reed

The argument is that Capitalism is not a fair system and it rewards individuals arbitrarily.
How? If you have a good idea you can make money off it. How is it arbitrary?

Samuel Kelly
Samuel Kelly

north korea, cuba, venuzuela, USSR.
vs
USA.

Anyone who honestly supports communism has brain damage. It's been tried a dozen times, and has ended up enslaving the population every time. go live in venuzuela fucktard. the entire country is STARVING

Cooper Walker
Cooper Walker

Communism literally denies evolution, (Lysenkoism), so it's obvious you don't know a lot about it. Here's the truth, capitalism is fully compatible with evolution.
b-but capitalism isn't evolution because w-we know how to f-farm n shiet
Then having any form of agricultural society AT ALL is against evolution, which it obviously isn't.

Josiah Sanders
Josiah Sanders

it rewards individuals arbitrarily.
But isn't this technically fare since everyone has a chance at getting rewarded.
You're trolling right? Everyone having the same chance of success is fair. Everyone having a wildly different chance of success is not fair.
You are essentially arguing that a random lottery is unfair because some people win sometimes.
In a random lottery, everyone has the same chance of winning - roughly equal to 1 by the number of lotteries. In Capitalism, different individuals have different probabilities of success depending on their race, gender, and social standing.

Actually, forget gender. I don't care much about women not having equal opportunities to men since they're more important in preserving a race and are thus more valuable as human incubators than laborers in the workforce.

Having said that, if you eliminated the estate tax, eliminated preferential treatment to individuals based on their social standing, then perhaps capitalism would be fair.

However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others. Monopolies essentially set up a huge economic rent - the cost of entering and competing in the market becomes tougher and tougher. Add to this, the benefits people receive due to their social standing and financial background, it's easy to see that capitalism is not a fair system - those who win at the start, keep on winning irrespective how good the other gene sets are in the population.

That's not how it works in nature.

Luis Watson
Luis Watson

I can sort of agree. As the saying goes, life is not fair. Or maybe it's more like finding meaning in life regardless of the circumstances.
As far as giving people what they deserve that is arbitrary. There is no such standard to measure against. What is true for one person may not be true for another.

Samuel Rogers
Samuel Rogers

Yes, they are all mine.
My 5 kids are all mine
But how do you know?

Cooper Perry
Cooper Perry

explain how china is communist

Henry Green
Henry Green

Nothing is left to chance, kiddo. That's called gambling. We all have opportunity to be rewarded for hard work, unlike communism, where you only get a little for your effort.

Don't confuse capitalism with having a "job" laboring for the benefit of others, is the root of communism. Never trade your labor for less than it's full value. Working to make your boss rich, is worse than slavery.

Kayden Johnson
Kayden Johnson

If you have a good idea you can make money off it. How is it arbitrary?
How can you say all good ideas make money in a capitalistic market? Facebook makes tons of money but it also leads to social decay - would you say it's a good idea. Besides, how many good ideas have arisen without the help of external investment? There's always an element of risk involved - and by definition, risk implies luck. So by definition, all individuals who have succeeded in capitalism were lucky - because the risks they took paid off. Now, the question is did all of them work hard to get there with luck? Some yes, but some no. Is Kim Kardashian a hard working individual, in your opinion?

Eli Campbell
Eli Campbell

north korea, cuba, venuzuela, USSR.
vs
USA.
Pic is for bait retard, but the point on capitalism still holds. Fucking learn to argue faggot.

Eli White
Eli White

why do you ignore the inhumanity of millions slaughtered by your stupid idea?
Threating the lives of everyone doesn't matter because you don't want to get a job?

Matthew Edwards
Matthew Edwards

Is Kim Kardashian a hard working individual, in your opinion?
She certainly can entertain some people.

Wyatt Brown
Wyatt Brown

We all have opportunity to be rewarded for hard work
So if you were born in a Ghetto black community with constant drive bys and shootouts, you would be in the same position you are today? Luck played no part in you being where you are?

Chase Torres
Chase Torres

i did. With actual evidence of what happens when your stupid idea is put into practice. Everyone in the middle class is slaughtered, and a new ruling class rules over the burnt remains of the nation.
then the country suffers for decades as they have no work ethic.

MY magic idea of communism hasn't been tried yet

Adam Richardson
Adam Richardson

In a random lottery, everyone has the same chance of winning - roughly equal to 1 by the number of lotteries. In Capitalism, different individuals have different probabilities of success depending on their race, gender, and social standing.
So it isn't arbitrarily then.

Having said that, if you eliminated the estate tax, eliminated preferential treatment to individuals based on their social standing, then perhaps capitalism would be fair.
But what if the parents of the kids wanted to spend their lives to make their kid's lives better? Milton Friedman goes into how this concept creates a stable society based on family values rather then a society where every spends all their money on wasteful bullshit before they die.

However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others. Monopolies essentially set up a huge economic rent - the cost of entering and competing in the market becomes tougher and tougher. Add to this, the benefits people receive due to their social standing and financial background, it's easy to see that capitalism is not a fair system - those who win at the start, keep on winning irrespective how good the other gene sets are in the population.
Do you know what part of modern capitalism is forming these monopolies? It's funny how they only started showing up once the government started regulating the market.

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall

Democratic communism.

I prefer democratic absolute monarchy.

Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

why do you ignore the inhumanity of millions slaughtered by your stupid idea?
The fact that you have nothing but to go against communism shows to me that you have no argument against capitalism being an arbitrary system.

Cameron Green
Cameron Green

Is Kim Kardashian a hard working individual, in your opinion?
She certainly can entertain some people.
I don't know if you're trolling right now. So if Olga works hard, opens a shop, and is not willing to whore herself out, pose nude, and release a sex tape, and she wants to be chaste and honorable, she should be awarded less than Kim Kardashian? Really? I mean there are limits to trolling.

Jonathan Butler
Jonathan Butler

However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others.

so not arbitrarily

Jackson James
Jackson James

niggers are a terrible example because they expose the myth of "equality". they're not, and do not deserve an equal opportunity

Joseph Hernandez
Joseph Hernandez

Every system ran by humans is to some degree arbitrary as far as I can tell.

Communism is even more arbitrary than capitalism since the redistribution happens along a made up criteria of equality

Jordan Johnson
Jordan Johnson

i did. With actual evidence of what happens when your stupid idea is put into practice.
I say pic is for bait, and you go back to communism? So you don't have any arguments against capitalism being an arbitrary system, do you? Didn't think so brainlet.
MY magic idea of communism hasn't been tried yet
Weak attempt to troll faggot. Learn to be more subtle when you troll next time.

Gavin Williams
Gavin Williams

Communism literally denies evolution
I have to disagree with you there.
Communism leads to misery and suffering.
Humans have a tendency to comiserate, thus communism results in a lot of inbreeding sad lonely people.
Inbreeding results in mutations, and not all of them bad, a small percentage of mutations are actually beneficial to humanity. Not X-men, but improvement, and or evolution.

Luke Nelson
Luke Nelson

So if you were born in a Ghetto black community with constant drive bys and shootouts, you would be in the same position you are today?
If this is detrimental to black communities then why do they do this to themselves, unlike even the poorest white communities.

Gabriel Sanchez
Gabriel Sanchez

The west has stopped encouraging evolution, but it's because we have added more communism to our system. For evolution I'd provide only for my family. In our current system I provide gibs for every illiterate who keeps breeding, competing with myself.

Andrew Turner
Andrew Turner

Your morals are arbitrary.
Do you want people to see your point of view based on what you think is right?

Xavier Young
Xavier Young

Internalized racism

James Campbell
James Campbell

blah blah blah I have brain damage
you sat behind your marvel of human engineering, where we made the laws of physics bend to our will and give us instant global communication, while you have an array of hundreds of spices and foods to choose from at insanely low prices.
where a few hundred years ago you'd have to eat the same shit every day with no spices and die of dysentary at age 17.

i don't have to argue for capitalism, because anyone whose not a snotty 13 year old can see how great it is.

it's not arbitrary, because the ONLY way to implement communism is through slaughter. there's no way to grow it naturally, because it is built on corecion.

Capitalism is built on cooperation, where people can willingly agree to trade or disagree.

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

Stalin was traitor to communism, only Tito knew the real way of communism. Stalinist filth will be sent to Goli Otok on vacation

Jack Cook
Jack Cook

I'm not trolling. Entertainers have more value than people who operate shops. Anybody can make a shop, not everybody can be a good entertainer. As a Catholic I think there should be some sort of control over what is promoted in the media,so obviously porn should be banned.

Elijah Morris
Elijah Morris

arbitrarily
I dont think you know what that word means. Capitalism rewards you for working. I guess to a commie the concept of work is arbitrary

Jayden Sanchez
Jayden Sanchez

Let's slaughter all the Jews and than we can talk economics.

Cooper Johnson
Cooper Johnson

Capitalism rewards you for working.
*Exploits

Tyler Sanders
Tyler Sanders

A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve
How is this fair at all? Sounds like you are trying to force unnatural standards on us.

Jonathan Rodriguez
Jonathan Rodriguez

So internalized racism is blacks killing other blacks?

Nathaniel Perry
Nathaniel Perry

Not an argument. I work I get money. I call it a reward and so do the majority of humans alive. How is it arbitrary if I literally have to put in labor to extract value?

Angel Gomez
Angel Gomez

Yes

Sebastian Wright
Sebastian Wright

this desu

Michael Gutierrez
Michael Gutierrez

Capitalism rewards merit and competence.

Only worthless, lazy fucks want to be rewarded for doing nothing.

Create value or fuck off and die.

Adam Hill
Adam Hill

yeah even niggers hate niggers

Levi Wilson
Levi Wilson

In a random lottery, everyone has the same chance of winning - roughly equal to 1 by the number of lotteries. In Capitalism, different individuals have different probabilities of success depending on their race, gender, and social standing.
So it isn't arbitrarily then.
Oooh hooo. Good one user, but since you're retarded, let me point out why you're assertion falls short. In the same post you just cited, here's what I said at the end
However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others. Monopolies essentially set up a huge economic rent - the cost of entering and competing in the market becomes tougher and tougher. Add to this, the benefits people receive due to their social standing and financial background, it's easy to see that capitalism is not a fair system - those who win at the start, keep on winning irrespective how good the other gene sets are in the population.

Yes, if everyone had the same chance to succeed, forever and ever, it wouldn't be arbitrary. However, those who win at the start, keep on winning in capitalism and that makes the system arbitrary - you don't know who wins at the start and the effects cannot be reversed.

But nice try at a strawman. Top kek.

But what if the parents of the kids wanted to spend their lives to make their kid's lives better?
Yeah, I made a mistake here. I meant to say make the estate tax a 100%, and not eliminate it. But coming to your point, yeah, that's fine. I'm fine with parents spending money on kids education to improve their chance of success. That doesn't make the system outright unfair. What makes it unfair is inheritence and continued support and opportunities from parents.

Oliver Murphy
Oliver Murphy

we need to remove all trade restrictions and deregulate all industries. no minimum wages, no licences. this can be achieved while maintaining personal responsibility.

Ryan Price
Ryan Price

So when and how are you going to insert "blame whitey" into this?

Elijah Taylor
Elijah Taylor

I call it a reward
Call it what you want, you still aren't getting what your labour is worth

Oliver Nelson
Oliver Nelson

Love it when faggots who never lived in a socialist country shit-talk communism.Keep it up, child.

Benjamin Cox
Benjamin Cox

Another edgy kid thinking that real communism hasn't been tried. There were 39 communist countries, and guess what: we have only 5 now.
Are they rich and prosperous? No.

Jose James
Jose James

Do you know what part of modern capitalism is forming these monopolies? It's funny how they only started showing up once the government started regulating the market.
That's not true user. In fact, the reason why monopolies form is because competition cannot arise as quickly as it's cannibalized by large companies.

Elijah Mitchell
Elijah Mitchell

Democratic communism.
I prefer democratic absolute monarchy.
With a capitalist system? That's still fucked up.

Cameron Hall
Cameron Hall

You're right but the answer is fascism not communism.

Daniel Robinson
Daniel Robinson

Are they rich and prosperous? No
They were worse before

Robert Parker
Robert Parker

Yes I am. Because individually my labor is worthless. It takes a manager to put my work together, and his worth is the sum of our labor. If I don't like this I can become my own boss.

Now explain how
A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve
Makes sense because this is another retarded assertion which you will no doubt not be able to support.

Ayden Bennett
Ayden Bennett

Capitalism rewards individuals arbitrarily and is antithetical to evolution
Are you retarded

Jordan Richardson
Jordan Richardson

This. The entire economy is a fucking racket. If we brought RICO charges the entire country would shutdown.

Parker Thomas
Parker Thomas

so not arbitrarily
Do you have a short attention span, or is this your pathetic attempt at trolling? Why don't you read the full post you faggot. Since you're an ADHD faggot, here let me complete the green text for you so that you can claim your bullshit question again
However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others. Monopolies essentially set up a huge economic rent - the cost of entering and competing in the market becomes tougher and tougher. Add to this, the benefits people receive due to their social standing and financial background, it's easy to see that capitalism is not a fair system - those who win at the start, keep on winning irrespective how good the other gene sets are in the population.

Carson Ward
Carson Ward

100% estate tax just means a new class of trust fund babies (who control the communist state) get to benefit when anyone dies.
it doesn't eliminate the class structure. This corruption is well documented in countries that tried communism.
Some people will always be better than others. That's how evolution works. survival of the fittest.

Jack Harris
Jack Harris

Arbitrarily

Life is essentially arbitrary. What works for one person will possibly not work for another. The fairest solution is randomness that can be effected based on actions of those within the system.

Henry Price
Henry Price

If it's such a good system why did it collapse?

Colton Wilson
Colton Wilson

Capitalism rewards individuals arbitrarily and is antithetical to evolution
It rewards them based on their ability. People who have useful skills that are in high demand and intelligence will succeed under a capitalist system.
Big companies become increasingly inefficient and inevitably will become unprofitable to run and simply collapse. That is, unless the government bails it out, at which point you dont even have a free market.
This^

Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

Do you think massive amounts of government regulation that companies need their own lawyers to do helps the small businesses who can't easily afford lawyers or the big businesses that have teams of lawyers?

Charles Fisher
Charles Fisher

I'm starting understand why Pinochet tossed you commies out of helicopters. Your stupidity is incurable and the only solution is to execute you all before you ruin another country.

Jack Russell
Jack Russell

I kill Jews and steal their shekels. I feel well paid for my labor.

Angel Robinson
Angel Robinson

arbitrarily
make a statement to back this otherwise your argument is not actually an argument.

Ryder Thompson
Ryder Thompson

Also, why would Communism not be the same thing as turning an entire country into a single monopoly?

Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

capitalism is literally controlling what mother nature does

l m f a o

Brayden Scott
Brayden Scott

Just ask for a specific, exact and quantifiable definition of "fair" and what is "deserved" by each. This is where commie central planning collapses, every time.

Asher Allen
Asher Allen

Because individually my labor is worthless.
Being this cucked

Nathaniel Roberts
Nathaniel Roberts

However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others. Monopolies essentially set up a huge economic rent - the cost of entering and competing in the market becomes tougher and tougher. Add to this, the benefits people receive due to their social standing and financial background, it's easy to see that capitalism is not a fair system - those who win at the start, keep on winning irrespective how good the other gene sets are in the population.

so not arbitrarily

Daniel Evans
Daniel Evans

niggers are a terrible example because they expose the myth of "equality". they're not, and do not deserve an equal opportunity
I can't argue with people who think some people deserve to succeed more than others.

Tyler Nguyen
Tyler Nguyen

Right, becaue remembering the days when you had to wait hours in line to get rolls of toilet paper is shit-talk.

Austin Ramirez
Austin Ramirez

So if you were born in a Ghetto black community with constant drive bys and shootouts,

I wasn't born in the ghetto, but I was bused to a High school that was 65% black. I know what CNN tells you on tv, but thats a bunch of bullshit. My classmates and I started a business together. We went our separate ways, but keep in touch, and they are successful to this day. The color of your skin, and your environment doesn't hold you back.

Isaiah Hernandez
Isaiah Hernandez

try running a business all by yourself. have you even had a job before?
Central planning is the idea that one guy with all the power won't be greedy. And the idea that 1 guy knows how to allocate wealth better than millions of people making dozens of market decisions a day.

Dylan Clark
Dylan Clark

Also, to clarify why rewarding people based on their intelligence and ability is good:
People of higher merit will be disproportionately more productive than people of lower merit. Not only they are able to acquire the biggest amount of wealth in a capitalist system, they will also use that wealth efficiently, leading to greater economic productivity.

Anthony Powell
Anthony Powell

Every system ran by humans is to some degree arbitrary as far as I can tell.
That's true.
Communism is even more arbitrary than capitalism since the redistribution happens along a made up criteria of equality
Pic is for bait, but your assertion is as wrong as it can come. Centrally planned economies, when done right, are actually fair. However, I don't think communism can be implemented politically. It has to come from a genetic evolution in mankind - the desire to care for your fellow human beings - and when everyone's genetically predisposed to doing that, communism will be the natural form of governance - you won't need to implement it politically.

Luke Baker
Luke Baker

LMAO

Ryan King
Ryan King

These are not arguments. My individual labor is worthless, if I disagree I can be my own boss. Which will then enable me to earn MORE, because a boss is worth more.

Now explain
A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve
Please.

Jordan Wilson
Jordan Wilson

I can't argue with people who think some people deserve to succeed more than others.
That's not the same thing as "people aren't created equal". People aren't created equal, that's a natural reality that all biological evidence shows. This doesn't mean that we think that niggers don't deserve their own success. I'd be happy if they were successful. I love to see self made black people who are winning at life. If all niggers were like this then I'd have zero problem with them at all.

Xavier Carter
Xavier Carter

Capitalism rewards individuals
True, everything else in your sentence is literally the opposite of reality.

Rewards
Pic related

SAGE faggot LARP thread

Brody Kelly
Brody Kelly

some people deserve to succeed more than others
This is an undeniable fact of life. I dont see you trolling the savanna to make sure the king lion shares will all the scrawny hungry ones. Don't they deserve to succeed as well?

Alexander Cox
Alexander Cox

oh i know, comrade

Chase Cox
Chase Cox

If this is detrimental to black communities then why do they do this to themselves, unlike even the poorest white communities.
Genetic user. Whites genetically kept only those black slaves who were emotional, short-term thinkers, because they're easy to control. For the black community to be normal, either they have to genocide all other tribes in order to gain a top position from where they can start breeding individuals who think in the long term - or they have to be given crutches to do so - which will never work. So they're forever fucked in the U.S.

Jeremiah Hill
Jeremiah Hill

For evolution I'd provide only for my family.
So all the roads, power, gas, and water you use, you got them yourself? And those dang commies are taking away all your hard work?

Man, there's a limit to where retardedness can be amusing. God bless your heart.

Michael Myers
Michael Myers

so who is going to plan the central economy? how are you going to keep them from being more successful than others?
They have control of all the resources, why won't the give it mostly to themselves?

Josiah Smith
Josiah Smith

Whites genetically kept only those black slaves who were emotional, short-term thinkers, because they're easy to control. For the black community to be normal, either they have to genocide all other tribes in order to gain a top position from where they can start breeding individuals who think in the long term - or they have to be given crutches to do so - which will never work. So they're forever fucked in the U.S.
So black people are fucked in the USA because of genetics but you want to take money from productive people and give it to them to waste anyways?

David Lewis
David Lewis

inherit millions. business contacts, etc.
hire people to run your business
merit and competence
Fuck off with your cut-rate fairy tales.

Connor Powell
Connor Powell

So all the roads, power, gas, and water you use, you got them yourself? And those dang commies are taking away all your hard work?
Is there a demand for these things? If there is then there will be a supply because people can make money off selling them. If their isn't a demand then why are we forced to pay for them.

Isaiah Johnson
Isaiah Johnson

blah blah blah I have brain damage
No need to project.
you sat behind your marvel of human engineering, where we made the laws of physics bend to our will and give us instant global communication, while you have an array of hundreds of spices and foods to choose from at insanely low prices.
Thread is about capitalism being arbitrary, and you continue to rail against communism. Ok, I'll bite. All these innovations you've mentioned, did humans survive before them? Or are the innovations you mention absolutely necessary for human survival? If they're not necessary, then it makes no difference if I have a phone or not. As long as I have food to eat and a basic shelter to live in, everything else on top is an evolutionary luxury that cripples me and my progeny in the long run.
it's not arbitrary, because the ONLY way to implement communism is through slaughter.
Ok, never mind. I'm tired of your trolling. It's not subtle and extremely boring.

Justin Morris
Justin Morris

I have actually written quite a bit on how capitalism is inherently dysgenic. I wonder if I should publish the writings?

Sebastian Price
Sebastian Price

How about you stop hiding behind a meme flag and show yourself? I bet you are a mutt or worse, an Oльгинeц.

Jack Smith
Jack Smith

Quit dodging my questions please

Daniel Morris
Daniel Morris

grow up and get a job before talking about "rewards" retard

Noah Perez
Noah Perez

I can't argue with people who think some people deserve to succeed more than others.
Doesn't that go for you as well? Communism doesn't really reward people who stray from the template. You can't really have diversity, when everyone is forced to think, act and do the same things as everyone else.
Doesn't this stagnation of the mind also lead to an evolutionary stasis? In the worst case scenario it might lead to devolution (biologically), and in the best case to devolution (politically).

Samuel Baker
Samuel Baker

I'm not trolling. Entertainers have more value than people who operate shops
And why is that? What evolutionary purpose do entertainers serve? Does Kim Kardashian's sex tape fill my stomach? Does it keep me warm at night? Then why do we give it so much importance?

Low level evolutionary addictions user. Modern capitalism is built around exploiting the evolutionary trait of humans - curiosity, desire to be famous to gather more resources, willingness to work hard - for profit.
Anybody can make a shop,
Can you? How many people do you know who run successful shops?
As a Catholic I think there should be some sort of control over what is promoted in the media,so obviously porn should be banned.
Why? Because you're a Catholic? You're thinking is so basic that it's amusing.

Aiden Perez
Aiden Perez

if you spent 10 minutes of life 500 years ago, you'd come crawling back on your hands and knees begging for your old life back. if you want to live in poverty so bad, Venuzuela and Cuba would let you in.
I'm not trolling. No one wants communism, so your only way to get it is by killing. Why not start your own little communist group and watch it grow in popularity? You can't because you need other people's money to operate your stupid scheme.

Kevin Russell
Kevin Russell

everything else on top is an evolutionary luxury that cripples me and my progeny in the long run.
So you want hunter-gather society to come back and somehow this is communism?

Eli Ward
Eli Ward

A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve
How is this fair at all?
Hehehe. How weak is your troll?
Sounds like you are trying to force unnatural standards on us.
In nature, wolves hunt pigs. Not the other way around. In capitalism, once pigs control the market, only pigs keep controlling the market irrespective of whether wolves keep breeding better wolves or not.

Chase Ramirez
Chase Ramirez

That wasn't him genius. I honestly get bored answering the same things in these kind of threads.

I'm free to go be my own boss
You really think it's that simple? The world works like this? How are you possible going to compete against giant corporations? Say you work at Amazon. Go start your own amazon-like company. Great, see how that turns out.

That's not even going into the failure rates of small businesses

Zachary Kelly
Zachary Kelly

And dont leave anything for your children to inherit and waste all of your wealth and fail to multiply it. In the long term its better to inherit intelligence from your father than inherit his wealth. A person born in the 99th percentile of intelligence will massively outcompete a person who was born into the 99th percentile of wealth in the long term.

Gabriel Morales
Gabriel Morales

In capitalism, once pigs control the market, only pigs keep controlling the market irrespective of whether wolves keep breeding better wolves or not.
This is even more true in communism.

Xavier Cox
Xavier Cox

we need to remove all trade restrictions and deregulate all industries. no minimum wages, no licences. this can be achieved while maintaining personal responsibility.
I agree. This would be a fair system. However, I feel there must be one single regulation in this system - if a company gets more than 50% market share, then it will be broken down into daughter companies. I think this is the only regulation that must exist in a free market. Then it most likely would be a fair system.

Leo Fisher
Leo Fisher

democratic communism
holy shit, double cancer.

Good thing the third position exists.

Fascism>capitalism>socialism/communism

Joshua Sullivan
Joshua Sullivan

god damn i was gonna do exactly this

Caleb Barnes
Caleb Barnes

amazon started out as a tiny bookstore.
how on earth could they compete??? it was impossible they could not have succeeded!

Kevin Hill
Kevin Hill

You really think it's that simple? The world works like this? How are you possible going to compete against giant corporations? Say you work at Amazon. Go start your own amazon-like company. Great, see how that turns out.
It would be possible if the IRS didn't come after us, didn't have to pay massive taxes, didn't have to pay for the retarded healthcare system that doesn't work, and we didn't have to hire a lawyer to sort though mountains of regulation. Leftist bullshit kills small businesses and competition. How hard is this for you to fucking understand.

Nathaniel Carter
Nathaniel Carter

True. Some animals tend to be more equal than others.

Elijah Carter
Elijah Carter

100% estate tax just means a new class of trust fund babies (who control the communist state) get to benefit when anyone dies.
I wasn't saying that we implement communism. Pic is for bait. I was talking about how to make capitalistic systems more fair.

Also, just to extend your idea to make it more stable and fool proof, in order to prevent people in power from benefitting from estates of rich people, you auction it to private enterprises first for cannibalization, and then you auction it to the public if anything remains. Or, the estate is used for a public project - this will ensure that a large section of society benefits from the estates of rich folks.

Jason Harris
Jason Harris

how on earth could they compete???
Against who

Jaxson Hill
Jaxson Hill

Life is essentially arbitrary. What works for one person will possibly not work for another.
A wolf will kill a pig irrespective of whether a wolf is polish or german and irrespective of whether the pig is singaporean or sri lankan. Life is not arbitrary.

Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

oh, sorry, i forgot there were no big companies in 1999.
fuck i was wrong, hail communism, where do i get my red badge?

Julian Ortiz
Julian Ortiz

There’s more commies on half-chan than /leftypol/ nowadays. What happened?

Blake Diaz
Blake Diaz

are you fucking dumb?
it isn't arbitrary just because you think it is.
this is the dumbest argument i've ever seen.
a bird with colored feathers that gets more bird pussy than other birds isn't antithetical to evolution is it?
capitalism is a selection pressure
you just don't like what it is selecting
dumb fuck

Nicholas Rogers
Nicholas Rogers

Answer my question. Going hehehe troll and calling me cucked aren't answers.

whoops, same level of retardation though. Answer my questions.

Why is
A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve
fair? What if I don't earn what I deserve?

You really think it's that simple? The world works like this?
Yes. I own a small business and it runs fine, I am surrounded in my community by small businesses doing just fine. Just because you are a lazy faggot doesnt make everyone.

Thomas Watson
Thomas Watson

And why is that? What evolutionary purpose do entertainers serve? Does Kim Kardashian's sex tape fill my stomach? Does it keep me warm at night? Then why do we give it so much importance?
Why do you think the only needs that shouls be satisfied are the most base ones? Why are you on Sup Forums when you don't need it to survive? This place isn't needed to live. You are here purely for entertainment.
Can you? How many people do you know who run successful shops?
Well, in the city where I live there are a shitton of shops, and it's only a city of 25000 people. How many entertainers are there? Many people can operate shops, not everybody can make good entertainment. Scarcity dude.
Why? Because you're a Catholic? You're thinking is so basic that it's amusing.
It's what the Church says since porn is harmful for the community.

Jose Wood
Jose Wood

Big companies become increasingly inefficient and inevitably will become unprofitable to run and simply collapse
They do become unprofitable in the long run due to increase in transaction costs - this has been shown - but there's no conclusive proof that they always collapse. That's arbitrary and the resources are always gathered by another company which becomes the next monopoly.

Dominic Wood
Dominic Wood

try running a business all by yourself.
greed is a sin. It was my father's as well.
He was almost jewish about money.
He failed many business trying to do everything himself, not hiring anyone because he would have to share the profit.
He was a good bad example for me.

I partner with other people in business. People who are likewise motivated, and non-jews.
We charge fair prices and our customers love us. Start small, you don't need a loan, or handouts to start a business.

Joseph Edwards
Joseph Edwards

Listen, the point is this, it is in the nature of capital to accumulate at the top. Once that happens it isn't moving anywhere

Gabriel Gray
Gabriel Gray

Estate taxes destroy economic stability because there is no incentive for families to plan in for their children's future if you stole all their wealth when they died. Also rich families would just move their money offshore and avoid this so it would hurt the poor and middle class just like all leftist bullshit does.

Lincoln Murphy
Lincoln Murphy

but there's no conclusive proof that they always collapse
That's because they lobby the government to protect them by implementing massive amounts of leftist regulation that puts small businesses out of business.

Evan Brown
Evan Brown

Do you think massive amounts of government regulation that companies need their own lawyers to do helps the small businesses who can't easily afford lawyers or the big businesses that have teams of lawyers?
True. But I was saying that regulations, though crippling, are not the only reasons for monopolies to rise. Monopolies have risen even in systems where the system was loosely regulated and this is because the competition can't keep up once a company acquires a certain portion of the market share - brand loyalty, increasing costs of competition, etc.

But I didn't mean to completely disagree with the specific point you mentioned. That was my mistake the way I phrased it.

Lucas Robinson
Lucas Robinson

Oh? and no one has any chances to grow for themselves?
man, that reminds me everything I own is the same quality as it was in 2000. nothing's gotten better.

Landon Brown
Landon Brown

That's actually communism that does that.

Jason Price
Jason Price

Oh? and no one has any chances to grow for themselves?
Pretty much

Jackson Gray
Jackson Gray

Also, why would Communism not be the same thing as turning an entire country into a single monopoly?
Commie pic is for bait. Do you have any arguments against a capitalistic system being arbitrary? Didn't think so.

Owen Martinez
Owen Martinez

jews

Colton Hernandez
Colton Hernandez

so not arbitrarily
Weeeeak troll. Up your game.

Ryan Powell
Ryan Powell

Trump

Ian Reed
Ian Reed

why do the private enterprises deserve it? they'll become the upper class.
Who gets the proceeds from the auction? They'll become the upper class.
What if none of the assets can be used for a "public project"?

Who determines if the assets of the "public project" aren't being abused? ever hear of cities starting million dollar projects that do nothing for the town, yet a few private individuals get very wealthy?
happens even under capitalism, it would be 100 times worse under communism.

Julian Parker
Julian Parker

Just fuck off and die.
Go take your commie buddies and go live in a commune on the coast of Tanzania. See how well that works out for your dumb ass

Julian Reed
Julian Reed

True. But I was saying that regulations, though crippling, are not the only reasons for monopolies to rise. Monopolies have risen even in systems where the system was loosely regulated and this is because the competition can't keep up once a company acquires a certain portion of the market share - brand loyalty, increasing costs of competition, etc.
So if regulation helps monopolies any at all then why not get rid of regulation? It should be obvious to anyone who sees reality by this point that big businesses are lobbying the government in support of progressive leftist ideas. Why do they do this if it isn't the main way they keep power?

Alexander Evans
Alexander Evans

what evolutionary purpose do entertainers serve?
what purpose do shopkeepers serve? Technically, all we "need" is food, water, air, and shelter, so i guess we should get rid of all industries that aren't made up of those 4, right, because that's """true evolution""""

Asher Walker
Asher Walker

I wasn't born in the ghetto, but I was bused to a High school that was 65% black.
Ok, but luck played no part in your current position in life? Everything you planned went your way?
I know what CNN tells you on tv, but thats a bunch of bullshit.
CNN is cancer.
My classmates and I started a business together. We went our separate ways, but keep in touch, and they are successful to this day. The color of your skin, and your environment doesn't hold you back.
I'm not going to say you're LARPing just yet. But you do have to understand that it's hard for me to believe your story simply because you say it's true? How about you logically argue how the blacks you know became successful. No need for fancy statistics. Just prove to me that luck played no part in theirs or your success - all you have to do is prove to me that everything you planned exactly the way you predicted it, and everything you didn't plan for, didn't affect you in anyway.

Nolan Price
Nolan Price

do you measure your quality of life by a "rate of profit" chart?
that's not a good way.

William Ross
William Ross

You already said that it isn't arbitrary you fucking retard. You said race, gender, family, etc. plays are role in wealth accumulation. That means it isn't fucking arbitrary.

Logan Wright
Logan Wright

In communism, there can be no pigs or wolves, just sheep as everyone is "equal". Capitalism allows the strongest to rise to the top.
b-but some people start st-stronger!
So what? Lots of start-ups start at the bottom.
b-but it's unnatural for people to start with advantages!
the runt of the litter starts with a disadvantage, don't see you talking about that

Zachary Brown
Zachary Brown

I can't argue with people who think some people deserve to succeed more than others.
That's not the same thing as "people aren't created equal".
Sure. I wasn't trying to imply that all people are created equal. Just that if you think a section of the population doesn't deserve to succeed simply because they're niggers, is not good logic.
People aren't created equal, that's a natural reality that all biological evidence shows.
I agree.
This doesn't mean that we think that niggers don't deserve their own success
This user doesn't think soniggers are a terrible example because they expose the myth of "equality". they're not, and do not deserve an equal opportunity

Nathaniel Cox
Nathaniel Cox

Communism is based upon the idea that everyone will do their part. And that everyone whos rich wont just leave before the taking of their wealth. It's retarded and I believe the quickest way to bankrupt a country people wise

Carter Nguyen
Carter Nguyen

Checked for truth!
Historically speaking, communism doesn't really have a good track-record in dealing with such issues. There is usually a political elite which wields ultimate power, and the working class is exploited without remorse.

Ayden Turner
Ayden Turner

Proceeds to starve.

Anthony Lee
Anthony Lee

so true, the diseases, brutality, and smells would overwhelm you. Communism is a race to the bottom where everyone is living dirt poor and the .05% of the leading class live like kings. Fuck communism, my family fled from it and it fucking sucks.

Sebastian Fisher
Sebastian Fisher

some people deserve to succeed more than others
This is an undeniable fact of life.
Based on what? Your leaf brains?
I dont see you trolling the savanna to make sure the king lion shares will all the scrawny hungry ones.
Last time I checked Lions didn't have farming tech and advanced societies. You don't even know how to strawman properly. You leafs are pathetic.

Matthew Jenkins
Matthew Jenkins

if you think a section of the population doesn't deserve to succeed simply because they're capitalists, is not good logic.

Hudson Lewis
Hudson Lewis

so who is going to plan the central economy?
Pic is for bait. Do you have any arguments against capitalism being an arbitrary system? No? Didn't think so.

Ethan Adams
Ethan Adams

Forced equality is just as arbitrary as forced inequality ; prove me wrong

Jeremiah Anderson
Jeremiah Anderson

prove to me that luck played no part in theirs or your success
prove a negative?

Jackson Jackson
Jackson Jackson

So black people are fucked in the USA because of genetics but you want to take money from productive people and give it to them to waste anyways?
No. Now, do you have any arguments against capitalism being an arbitrary system? No? Then just stop.

Eli Hughes
Eli Hughes

Prove that capitalism IS an arbitrary system.

Elijah Hill
Elijah Hill

"own success" meaning elsewhere and not the eternal resource drain that they collectively are

Eli Garcia
Eli Garcia

Monopolies have risen even in systems where the system was loosely regulated
such as

Camden Garcia
Camden Garcia

but there's no conclusive proof that they always collapse.
Why would anyone work for an unprofitable company, hold stocks in an unprofitable company. Its not within the interests of shareholders to keep the company running. This is, unless there are government policies which prevent those inefficient corporations from collapsing, This could be excessive taxation and overregulation, this could be the government bailing out the companies with freshly printed money.

Austin Murphy
Austin Murphy

Capitalism doesn't reward arbitrarily, you fucking idiot. It rewards those who offer value to others who are willing to make a voluntary trade. That's about as worthy a method of rewarding behavior as any. And the vast majority of industrialization happened when the state took its hands off. People lived more or less the same existence for millennia until the 1800s.

Nathaniel Barnes
Nathaniel Barnes

i'm arguing for the status quo. the results speak for itself.
you're arguing for a system that has been tried 27 times, and only 5 countries still try it, and all of those are living near poverty where people will risk their lives to escape the country.
your "arbitrary" statement is meaningless because you're suggesting it's just a matter of words to change the entire economic system of the world.

capitalism thrives because it plays on natural incentives. More food = survival. less food = death = communism

Brody Anderson
Brody Anderson

Quit dodging my questions please
Who me? I thought you were having a discussion with the other commie.

Now explain
A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve
Please.
The chance of succeeding is approximately the same for all individuals. This allows evolution to constantly pick the best individuals in the system, genetically.

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

Doesn't that go for you as well? Communism doesn't really reward people who stray from the template.
Pic is for bait. Do you have any arguments against capitalism being an arbitrary system?

Jace Taylor
Jace Taylor

Natural selection, in evolution, prevents the unfit from breeding by removing them from the genepool. What force prevents everyone from breeding in a communist system, if everyone is the same?

Cooper Diaz
Cooper Diaz

So you want hunter-gather society to come back and somehow this is communism?
I'm not advocating for communism. Pic is bait, but coming to your point. No we don't have to regress to a hunter-gatherer society. We just have to ensure that the wealth individuals earn in a lifetime, is used up in their lifetime, and once they die, returns to the public or the state - so that others can now "buy" it off the state for their own purposes. This prevents dynasties and inheritences screwing up the gene pool in the long run.

Jason Wilson
Jason Wilson

Just prove to me that luck played no part in theirs or your success
all you have to do is prove to me that everything you planned exactly the way you predicted it

I don't believe in "luck" so asking me to prove your fairy-tale isn't going to happen.
Planning, on the other hand, is crucial to success. Things do not always go as planned, you have to keep making contingency plans.

Like when socialism failed, because the peasants didn't want to go to work.. They changed to communism, where the elites were given guns to make the peasants go to work.

Jacob Hall
Jacob Hall

democratic communism
holy shit, double cancer.
kek.

Blake Johnson
Blake Johnson

Do you have an argument that capitalism IS an arbitrary system? The burden of proof lies on the one who made the claim...

Sebastian Long
Sebastian Long

If it is Communism, there is no democracy, the Party is always in power and the laborers are considered non-intelectuals. Communist regime is a type of dictatorship.

Ryan Collins
Ryan Collins

The chance of succeeding is approximately the same for all individuals
Yeah. I'll ask my neighbour, the handicapped, black, trans, jewish midget to compete in a strongman contest. He might not win, but according to you he has a good chance.

Kevin Thomas
Kevin Thomas

So in your view, capitalism is fine as long as there's a 100% inheritance tax?

Carter Thomas
Carter Thomas

Answer my question.
This question? A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve
How is this fair at all?
Isn't that the definition of fair? What's your definition of fair then?

Joshua King
Joshua King

arbitrary

I don't think that word means what you think it does.

In capitalism I do X work I get Y pay.
I do 2X work I get 2Y pay.
Nothing arbitrary about that.

Xavier Taylor
Xavier Taylor

Why are you on Sup Forums when you don't need it to survive?
Kek. Feeding my addiction for good conversations with non-normies.
You are here purely for entertainment.
Guilty as charged, but I'm aware of it.
Well, in the city where I live there are a shitton of shops, and it's only a city of 25000 people
And yet you don't own a shop. Why is that?
How many entertainers are there?
Millions. You just see the most popular ones promoted by Slutty Wood and WhoreTube.
It's what the Church says since porn is harmful for the community.
I know why it's harmful, but do you know? Don't give me that bible shit. Yes, bible got it right, but why is it right? Do you know? If you knew you wouldn't be arguing with me about Olga being superior to Kim Kardashian.

Bentley Cox
Bentley Cox

Estate taxes destroy economic stability because there is no incentive for families to plan in for their children's future
Like I said before, I'm not against families spending money on educating their kids. In fact, that's evolutionary K-selection at work. What I'm against is inheritance. Inhertiance fucks with evolution and doesn't incentivize individuals to choose their spouses well.

Oliver Hall
Oliver Hall

Communism is the most individualistic ideology.

Even if we ignore that it is just snake oil in order for Jews to get into power.

Bentley Clark
Bentley Clark

That's because they lobby the government to protect them by implementing massive amounts of leftist regulation that puts small businesses out of business.
I'm sure you understood what I said. What you're saying is not untrue, but it doesn't hold true all the time. There are various reasons why monopolies don't collapse, and lobbying and government protection is just one of them. The main cause is that it's very hard to get people to change their minds once they're loyal to a brand.

Leo Foster
Leo Foster

So you're fine with parents spending their money on their kids when they're alive, but not once they're dead?

Logan Lopez
Logan Lopez

happens even under capitalism, it would be 100 times worse under communism.
You're trolling at this stage right? Or did you not read
I wasn't saying that we implement communism. Pic is for bait. I was talking about how to make capitalistic systems more fair.

Oliver Campbell
Oliver Campbell

so do you advocate burning the inheritance?
Who gets it?
If you don't burn it, someone will take advantage of the extra resources and become the ruling class.

Julian Ortiz
Julian Ortiz

So if regulation helps monopolies any at all then why not get rid of regulation?
Not a bad idea. I think there must exist one single regulation in all markets - if a company gets more than 50% of the market share, then it'll be broken down into daughter companies.

Christian Cooper
Christian Cooper

We are created equal. but we are endowed differently by our creators. Parents have a responsibility to properly endow their children.

You can't just pop a kid out your ass and say "be freeeeee" if you do that you should go to jail, not be rewarded with gibs.
So many muh-socialism people in this thread with mommy issues. Go slap that bitch, you'll feel better.

Ian Garcia
Ian Garcia

your inability to comprehend incentives does not mean someone else is trolling.
if inheritances are not completely destroyed, someone is going to get a lot of money for free.
That's incentive. in a communist nation full of poverty, people will be hunting for that sort of opportunity.

Luke Phillips
Luke Phillips

Democracy and communism are shit. I don't even want to imagine a combination between them.

Josiah Russell
Josiah Russell

arbitrary
There is like 5 different meanings to the word.
Random - Not quite. Capitalism operate by specific rules and regulations, even when (or argueably even more when) laissez-faire.
Unreasonable - The very soul of capitalism is based on reasonable pricing of goods and services. Only the inept and irresponsible cannot find reason in a capitalist system that works as intended.
Tyrannical - It could be, but no more than any other system; Communism included.

Ryder Butler
Ryder Butler

The other 2 meanings (that I found) is when something is decided by a judge (an arbiter), and an arbitrary number (undetermined) in mathematics.

Gabriel Barnes
Gabriel Barnes

Yeah, it was satire. Nice digits btw.

Jose Clark
Jose Clark

Under communism, the guys with the guns make all the decisions, there are no other "judges" you just shut your fucking hole and do you job, or you get shot.

Gavin Morgan
Gavin Morgan

"I will ignore the fact that modern capitalism benefited from centuries of human tech advancement under monarchies and theocracies."
And? The scale of technological development matters more than time spent developing and far more development in tech has occurred in the last century than most others before hand. And along side that was the increasing rate of capitalism and democracy (not even directly connected but simply the best combination) which also lead to an ever increasing development rate. Oh and results matter the most so... This all lead to, increased food production, increased energy supply, longer lives, lower crime overall and other shit.

So yes the ever decreasing poverty rate associated with Capitalism destroys your argument.

Yeah the thing improving mankind is antithetical to evolution try harder.

Josiah Allen
Josiah Allen

Capitalism is natural law. In Nature, the animal with most power rules. To obtain power you must outperform other beings and work to survive.
In Capitalism, the Alpha lion maintains hierarchy, structure and order. Anyone is free to challenge him and climb up the ladder.

Communism is unnatural law. It forces the able bodied to work and give their hard earned labor product to others who dont care whether society survives, and perpetuates the survival of the weak and lazy, ending natural selection.
In Communism, the Alpha lion does nothing. He and a group of other lazy lions threaten to kill any cub who doesnt work continuously and surrender ALL their earnings to their ruler. Its not possible for cub slaves to enter the inner lion circle without first becoming a proxy for the current rulers.

Capitalism is natural selection based on the needs of the people, regulated by the needs of the people, and produces a well ordered structure based on supply and demand.
Communism is simply a few people who want to be rich and powerful without working, so they trick the poor and desperate into murdering their own leaders, and then enslave the entire population to their whim. Anyone who supports Communism and denies being a power-hungry self centered egomaniacal slaver is a deluded idiot, possibly doing the bidding of the true Commies unwittingly.

Tyler Moore
Tyler Moore

That's true, and historically proven. So far the "comrades" have brought little substance to the table.

Jeremiah Hill
Jeremiah Hill

Even if all your criticism of capitalism is true and we would agree it's crap, it doesn't change one thing: it's still better than communism.

Jason Butler
Jason Butler

i heard something interesting, it was "if communism was able to apply labor to critical areas of need efficiently, the soviet union would still be around"

Colton Gonzalez
Colton Gonzalez

and once they die, returns to the public or the state - so that others can now "buy" it off the state for their own purposes

LMAO does "buy" mean "free gibs" ?
Let's just murder the wealthy then we get our free stuff faster, and besides, they need to die so we have the means of production in our hands, right ?

Hey, uhh... if you have twice as much as me, I get to kill you and split your shit with my beste, right ?

Justin Brown
Justin Brown

He doesn't share his wife's means of reproduction with the commune

Alexander Thomas
Alexander Thomas

Capitalism rewards individuals arbitrarily
It doesn't.

Colton Evans
Colton Evans

Capitalism is fair because producers are rewarded based on whether the people like their product or not. If a producer makes something and no one wants it, he goes out of business. If the producer makes something and people can't get enough of it, the producer is rewarded for satisfying the demands of the consumers. If you can't give the people what they want, you crash and burn. The result is a system that rewards the competent and punishes the incompetent. This ensures that the best rise to the top. How can communism ever compete with this?

Dominic Lewis
Dominic Lewis

As long as I have food to eat and a basic shelter to live in, everything else on top is an evolutionary luxury that cripples me and my progeny in the long run.
LMAO the delusional fork has killed this one

Jaxon Morris
Jaxon Morris

Nice!
Someone should report him to the Commissar. Every worker should get his share.

Parker Edwards
Parker Edwards

related

Aiden Diaz
Aiden Diaz

You already said that it isn't arbitrary you fucking retard. You said race, gender, family, etc. plays are role in wealth accumulation. That means it isn't fucking arbitrary.
Kek. Nice try at a strawman user. Best so far.

So you're saying you know beforehand which races each child was going to be born into? As in you can say 100% certainty that a black child was going to be born to a particular black family before it was conceived by them?

William Reyes
William Reyes

I believe 100% of all wealth is attributed at birth and no one else in the world works at all
Why must I work? In nature, the Human has no requirement for food or shelter, these are evil capitalist needs
How dare other people work harder than me and have nicer things?
I wish I never had to work and everyone else were forced to work FOR me under the penalty of death. And if they try to escape the country, I'll kill them and their families!
Yeah, commies are truly fine and moral people

Ethan Edwards
Ethan Edwards

waiting for buttfuck the tard op to shove the white flag up his own ass

Evan Jackson
Evan Jackson

b-but some people start st-stronger!
So what? Lots of start-ups start at the bottom.
Start ups? Do you think the tech industry is the only industry there is in the U.S. you CS faggot?
b-but it's unnatural for people to start with advantages!
the runt of the litter starts with a disadvantage, don't see you talking about that
Yeah, and just like runts in nature, small business don't survive for long when there's a monopoly around.

Lincoln Williams
Lincoln Williams

Capitalism makes much crap that people are forced to buy anyways because a company might have made something good in the past but now they have a strangle hold on the market they can get away with making shit.

Nolan Anderson
Nolan Anderson

if you think a section of the population doesn't deserve to succeed simply because they're capitalists, is not good logic.
Why do you say that I implied that capitalists shouldn't succeed? This is me
Yeah, I made a mistake here. I meant to say make the estate tax a 100%, and not eliminate it. But coming to your point, yeah, that's fine. I'm fine with parents spending money on kids education to improve their chance of success. That doesn't make the system outright unfair. What makes it unfair is inheritence and continued support and opportunities from parents.

Michael Phillips
Michael Phillips

Forced equality is just as arbitrary as forced inequality ; prove me wrong
Depends, are we talking about lions or humans who've discovered farming?

Grayson Evans
Grayson Evans

If the government didn't create these massive corporations, there would be a far greater amount of competition and people would have the power to control the markets and dictate quality more effectively.

Austin Torres
Austin Torres

Prove that capitalism IS an arbitrary system.
Humans discovered farming more than 12,000 years ago. We've long gone off the path of evolution. Capitalism tries to replicate a jungle environment in a world where 1 billion people grow crops sufficient to feed 7.2 billion people. Thus, 6.2 billion people receive rewards that are arbitrary in nature.

Nathan Bailey
Nathan Bailey

Dude capitalism is like, not cool cause it’s against evolution and doesn’t reward me for not working
Get polandballed by Sup Forums
Bro, we invented farming thats not evolution, and neither is communism so we should be communist

kys commie

Michael Bailey
Michael Bailey

Monopolies have risen even in systems where the system was loosely regulated
such as
East India Company.

Austin Bell
Austin Bell

Why would anyone work for an unprofitable company,
Assuming you're talking about a monopoly here, for job security.
hold stocks in an unprofitable company
Cause all other companies are put out of business by the monopoly and thus you're better off, in the long, not owning stocks in any company but the monopoly.

Ayden Bailey
Ayden Bailey

I can't argue with people who think some people deserve to succeed more than others.
How can you type this, knowing that communism is exactly that: the inner party deserves everything the laborers do. Youre a disgusting slaver.

Carson Bell
Carson Bell

and it's all a god damned legend

Brody Brown
Brody Brown

you're arguing for a system that has been tried 27 times, and only 5 countries still try it
Once again dude, not arguing for communism and you don't have any arguments against capitalism being arbitrary.

Joseph Flores
Joseph Flores

Social Darwinism or letting people do what they want with their lives.
Hmmmmmmmmmm

Brandon Cruz
Brandon Cruz

don't really think it's arbitrary, you have to have the will to go out and make money. If you just sit around don't expect any cash to come in

William Morales
William Morales

What force prevents everyone from breeding in a communist system, if everyone is the same?
Man, retards after retards having no argument against capitalism being an arbitrary system. This is the absolute state of capitalist retards on Sup Forums. Burst their bubble and you immediately regress to morons who argue against communism.

Absolute brainwashed normies all.

Cameron Reyes
Cameron Reyes

weird that "a legend" really pisses off a bunch of bolshijews

Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

I don't believe in "luck"
Things do not always go as planned
Pick one.

Nolan Ortiz
Nolan Ortiz

Do you have an argument that capitalism IS an arbitrary system? The burden of proof lies on the one who made the claim...
Humans discovered farming more than 12,000 years ago. We've long gone off the path of evolution. Capitalism tries to replicate a jungle environment in a world where 1 billion people grow crops sufficient to feed 7.2 billion people. Thus, 6.2 billion people receive rewards that are arbitrary in nature.

Hunter Flores
Hunter Flores

We as a people need to light a fire under the jews, and get their asses to Israel. Their job is to rebuild the temple, so Jesus can return. President Trump, cleared the way, building a US embassy in Jerusalem, to protect them while they work. And I don't want to see any contracting this out to the high bidder, or asking for gibs to pay for it, just shut up and start laying those bricks.

Camden Reyes
Camden Reyes

So in your view, capitalism is fine as long as there's a 100% inheritance tax?
Yes.

Benjamin Sanchez
Benjamin Sanchez

not filtering down the weak and letting the strongest ones perpetuate, while still maintaining a superficial freedom of action

hmmmmmmmmm

Hudson Lee
Hudson Lee

So you're fine with parents spending their money on their kids when they're alive, but not once they're dead?
Yes.

Justin White
Justin White

The white thinks he can tell me how to select the best to past their genes.
lmao

Colton Cruz
Colton Cruz

so do you advocate burning the inheritance?
No. There are many ways to dispose of an estate - auction to the public, except the children, such that private and public entities benefit from the estate. You can have rules that prevent the same people from winning the auction every time. Not difficult.

Wyatt Jenkins
Wyatt Jenkins

Capitalism exploits you for working.
As opposed to Communism where taxes are 100% of production?

Connor Carter
Connor Carter

your inability to comprehend incentives does not mean someone else is trolling.
Unfortunately, I have a PhD in econ - contract theory. So I understand the concept of incentives very well.
if inheritances are not completely destroyed, someone is going to get a lot of money for free.
Please elaborate on this.

Jaxson Hall
Jaxson Hall


As long as I have food to eat and a basic shelter to live in, everything else on top is an evolutionary luxury that cripples me and my progeny in the long run.
Get with the proletariat soviet, no one is forcing you... it's just you're a stupid greedy little faggot that just has to keep up with the Joneses or you'll run the streets murdering and screaming the commie revolution is here to stay !
Then you'll just demand the latest greatest shit you don't need anyway, for free, again... it never occurs to you idiot fuckheads to refuse a purchase

Liam Gomez
Liam Gomez

I was AFK. So what's the problem whether capitalism is arbitrary or not? Does it matter?

David Miller
David Miller

arbitrary
There is like 5 different meanings to the word.
Unreasonable
This is the one I was referring to
Only the inept and irresponsible cannot find reason in a capitalist system that works as intended.
That's not true.

Levi Brooks
Levi Brooks

Don't blame me, blame the commieshit who wants to control your life

I just say you're free in the jungle, but it's up to you to be strong enough to survive

Austin Martin
Austin Martin

The only reason I work is for the sake of my children. I could have retired long ago, if I was a self-centered hedonist mamma's boy like you.
Do you really want (((them))) to kick you out of your mom's basement when she croaks?

Kevin Adams
Kevin Adams

op makes claim presenting nothing to back it up
op ignores all the strong evidence against him that shows capitalism has lead to the best time for humanity and is not arbitrary as its traits is what caused this period
op acts like child

Jeremiah Lopez
Jeremiah Lopez

The scale of technological development matters more than time spent developing and far more development in tech has occurred in the last century than most others before hand.
Your graph says otherwise. Technology influences standard of living, which in turn influences the definition of poverty.

Also, how can you be retarded enough to rely on a graph that uses $ to measure poverty in different countries when the dollar is backed by oil which gives the U.S. an unfair advantage in all poverty indices. Why? Because people don't pay the Saudis Indian Rupees to get their oil - the pay them in dollars - which in turn requires all countries in the world to sell U.S. shit so that they get the dollars they need to buy oil - a crucial resource required by all world economies.

Michael Brown
Michael Brown

Bro, we invented farming thats not evolution, and neither is communism so we should be communist
ahhh... it's so retarded I couldn't follow the assholes argument.. thank you, I'll ingest tons of drugs and get drunk off my ass, hit my head with a hammer, then come back so I don't need help with the idea translation anymore

op is gonna be pissed when farming outer space saves the human race, and thus those most evolved astronauts and their rocket scientists farming on Mars

Andrew Adams
Andrew Adams

not true
t. inept retard that needs to grow up and get a job

Ian Ortiz
Ian Ortiz

Capitalism is natural law. In Nature, the animal with most power rules.
In nature, a wolf breeds wolves, and wolves always eat sheep. In capitalism, if a sheep rises to the top, then it keeps outperforming the wolves because it buys out the government and gives its wealth to its lambs. Capitalism is anything but natural.

Landon Perry
Landon Perry

I fail to see a counter-argument.
Inept, because they fail to provide goods or services in order to sustain themselves.
Irresponsible, because they either spend beyond their abilities, or neglect their work for frivolous pursuits.

Jaxon Torres
Jaxon Torres

LMAO does "buy" mean "free gibs" ?
Auction, retard. Read the whole post faggot. Learn to troll well at least.

John Rodriguez
John Rodriguez

He doesn't share his wife's means of reproduction with the commune
How do you know that? Did his wife tell you?

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

It's "The Wolf of Wall Street", not the sheep.

Xavier Garcia
Xavier Garcia

I think that was the plot of Zootopia

Nathaniel Gray
Nathaniel Gray

next time pretend to not be a retard

Chase Turner
Chase Turner

auction
How does one bid on a communist auction? With privilege tokens and needs change?

Matthew Cruz
Matthew Cruz

The only reason I work is for the sake of my children
Same here.
I could have retired long ago, if I was a self-centered hedonist mamma's boy like you.
So I say we shouldn't cripple our kids with inheritance, and somehow that's hedonistic? At worst I'm Spartan in my approach to life and you think that's hedonistic?
Kys boomer faggot.

Dylan Ramirez
Dylan Ramirez

Wrong FPBP, correct is:

Its not arbitrary, you get what you are worth commie scum.

Connor Bennett
Connor Bennett

If you rise to the top, you're not a sheep. That inherently makes you a wolf.

Cameron Price
Cameron Price

not true
t. inept retard that needs to grow up and get a job
Says the Nazi fag posting on Sup Forums on a Monday afternoon.

Landon Lopez
Landon Lopez

Inept, because they fail to provide goods or services in order to sustain themselves.
Irresponsible, because they either spend beyond their abilities, or neglect their work for frivolous pursuits.
No no, I've been talking about inheritences in capitalism. Yeah, I didn't really do a good job framing the original post.

Nolan Butler
Nolan Butler

bongs are not allowed an opinion about capitalism
until they overthrow the monarchy, and behead the snake that OWNS them. now bin that knife, queencuck, or grow a pair.

Josiah Nguyen
Josiah Nguyen

By that "logic", ALL agricultural societies are arbitrary, not just the capitalist ones.

Jaxson Harris
Jaxson Harris

It's "The Wolf of Wall Street", not the sheep.
You do realize that most of what Wall Street does is essentially shift wealth from one person to another, and they really provide nothing of value other than investments in the IPOs for companies?

Owen Wood
Owen Wood

Your graph says otherwise
What the fuck are you on about it shows a biggest dip occurring in modern times. And an increasing standard of living is something for capitalism and extreme poverty is still quite strict. US dollar is used as its the main currency of the world and main one used to compare nations due to simply conversion rates... and other currencies are backed by far more oil.
There is no way you are not trolling if you can't read a graph.

Tyler Martinez
Tyler Martinez

In nature, a wolf breeds wolves, and wolves always eat sheep. In capitalism, if a sheep rises to the top, then it keeps outperforming the wolves because it buys out the government and gives its wealth to its lambs. Capitalism is anything but natural.
I think that was the plot of Zootopia
Kek.

Luke Martinez
Luke Martinez

Protip:
the strongest and smartest and most capitalistically ambitious travel hundred and thousands of miles, sometimes on foot to reach the nations with the most capitalism...Not sure what crazy shit you're talking about. If I'm a fucking loser, capitalism gives me nothing, it takes a great deal of commie brothers forcing the grain sacks toward their faggot half dead loser lazy assed nigger gibsmedat fuckheads to keep them alive. Otherwise, dummy tries to steal it, gets caught because dumb criminal, and is shot dead on the spot.Capitalism says that's fair, only commie pinkos start whining and shitting their pants claiming the master with the gun already took from the workers and therefore is in the wrong. You're just a dumbass who, thanks to communism, is still breathing.

Carter Reed
Carter Reed

next time pretend to not be a retard
No no, you don't type what you you tell yourself Norwegian fag. Only retards do that.

Colton Foster
Colton Foster

Queen has no power m8 and we use capitalism too.

Brayden Wood
Brayden Wood

Immediate deflection when faced with an argument
hmm

Brayden Gray
Brayden Gray

If you rise to the top, you're not a sheep. That inherently makes you a wolf.
But what about your kids? Are the kids of rich children just as much wolves as their parents? Is this always true like in nature?

Juan Nguyen
Juan Nguyen

The only reason I work is for the sake of my children
Same here.

don't you mean... your wife's sons

Gavin Anderson
Gavin Anderson

By that "logic", ALL agricultural societies are arbitrary, not just the capitalist ones.
I don't think so. Early agro based societies were fairly communistic in their approach - so I don't think they were unfair.

Gabriel Reed
Gabriel Reed

Is there any real difference then? In the long run, this just encourages people to make sure their wealth gets passed on earlier, so your goal to make sure that "everyone gets the same" doesn't really work out.

Owen King
Owen King

What's unfair about someone deciding to give their money to their children? They spent an entire lifetime earning it, why can't they do as they please? But nice job making this about another issue completely.

Michael Martin
Michael Martin

Your graph says otherwise
What the fuck are you on about it shows a biggest dip occurring in modern times.
I meant to say your graph does not account for the tech progress made before the 1800s.
US dollar is used as its the main currency of the world and main one used to compare nations due to simply conversion rates and other currencies are backed by far more oil.
Do you really believe this, or is this your weak attempt at a troll?
There is no way you are not trolling if you can't read a graph.
You seem like a decent chap. Tell me what you think the graph is trying to show. No no, don't tell me to see it, I saw it already. I want you to describe in words what you think the graph is trying to prove. What's the underlying hypothesis for which the graph serves as proof?

Brayden Sanders
Brayden Sanders

We're not talking about fairness, we're talking about arbitrariness. Your argument was that evolution stops working in an agricultural society because there's a food surplus, and that aspect of agricultural society is the same in both systems.

Anthony Sanchez
Anthony Sanchez

In capitalism, if a sheep rises to the top, then it keeps outperforming the wolves because it buys out the government and gives its wealth to its lambs. Capitalism is anything but natural.
So here you claim the big shot CEOsheep is actually a communist at heart, giving away it's wealth to it's lambs...the workers proletariat just got their free gibs... so no need for seizing the means of production... If you meant the head sheep's progeny, that also supports survival of the fittest, as the head sheeps genes are now passed on with a wealth advantage to continue the greater bloodline that already rose to the top.
You're just fucked in the head.

Anthony Bennett
Anthony Bennett

Immediate deflection when faced with an argument
This is the title of the OP
Capitalism rewards individuals arbitrarily and is antithetical to evolution
Pic is literally for bait

Owen Torres
Owen Torres

i have to say that ive GOT to reply my man
its just too luscious for me to pass up
how come all these other people were allowed to reply but im not
IM REPLYING

Luke Cruz
Luke Cruz

Okay, should parents be able to spend time/money on educating their kids when they're young?
Yes. That's part of K-selection and nothing wrong with that.

Parker Cook
Parker Cook

inheritances in capitalism
Ah, I see. So if I get you correctly: You suggest that inheritance of wealth breaks the natural order, turning the offspring into an elite class with resources that are disproportionate to their abilities? And this in turn can make someone that is genetically inferior hold power over superior individuals? That is quite the idea to be honest. I wonder if there is a solution to that conundrum. A final one, even.

I wouldn't say that is their main function, but I wouldn't claim that it isn't prevalent.

Isaac Scott
Isaac Scott

The only reason I work is for the sake of my children
Same here.
don't you mean... your wife's sons
Oh no no, I'm not like the other fag who claims to have 5 kids with his wife. Both my kids look like me. The seed is strong in my family.

Benjamin Robinson
Benjamin Robinson

Queen has no power m8
Parliament serves at her majesty's pleasure, you wanker. You think the queen pawned her jewlels to buy 17 mansions and 4 castles (18,000 bedrooms total)
she gets a cut of all the taxes, check m8
nothing happens without her approval
b-bb-but i read that she's not even allowed to have an opinion

Easton Sanders
Easton Sanders

Is there any real difference then?
Yes, kids don't get additional capital when they start their lives as adults.
In the long run, this just encourages people to make sure their wealth gets passed on earlier, so your goal to make sure that "everyone gets the same" doesn't really work out.
True, a 100% estate tax is a start, and like you said, eventually everyone will abuse that system as well. And as they abuse it, you can change the system to ensure that parents are only allowed to invest in their children's education and nothing else with respect to their kids.

Connor Howard
Connor Howard

Bookstores never existed before Amazon? Wow

Dominic Ward
Dominic Ward

blasphemy... you can't be trusted to raise a child
now hand it over to the village idiot immediately

Jayden Allen
Jayden Allen

What's unfair about someone deciding to give their money to their children?
So you became rich due to luck, and when you pass it to your kids, you make sure generation after generation benefit from your luck. In nature, if a strong wolf is bred, then it eats all the gazelles, but the strong gazelles survive and the luck of the wolf is restricted to one generation. Not in capitalism - the luck propagates for generation after generation.
They spent an entire lifetime earning it, why can't they do as they please?
I'm not against them using it for personal pleasure and to educate their kids. I'm agains them passing it to their kids as capital.
But nice job making this about another issue completely.
??? How is this not in line with the OP?

Mason Cooper
Mason Cooper

Political loyalty.

Easton Watson
Easton Watson

We're not talking about fairness, we're talking about arbitrariness.
This is me
However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others. Monopolies essentially set up a huge economic rent - the cost of entering and competing in the market becomes tougher and tougher. Add to this, the benefits people receive due to their social standing and financial background, it's easy to see that capitalism is not a fair system - those who win at the start, keep on winning irrespective how good the other gene sets are in the population.
So you became rich due to luck, and when you pass it to your kids, you make sure generation after generation benefit from your luck. In nature, if a strong wolf is bred, then it eats all the gazelles, but the strong gazelles survive and the luck of the wolf is restricted to one generation. Not in capitalism - the luck propagates for generation after generation.
Your argument was that evolution stops working in an agricultural society because there's a food surplus,
And because of this surplus, many humans receive rewards and losses in an arbitrary manner.
and that aspect of agricultural society is the same in both systems.
Which system? I'm not trying to promote communism. Pic is for bait. I'm saying capitalism is an arbitrary system.

Carson Gutierrez
Carson Gutierrez

And the progress before then was less than within modern times this is well known such as time between planes and spacecraft for an easy example of rapid technological growth that far outpaces current times. You are just ignoring how technological progress before that graph starts is tiny compared to what occurs within.

No its the facts. US dollar is strongest and thus most used backup currency and thus used most in conversion. Gulf nations have greater share of oil and use it to back their economies/currencies far more than US.

It shows decreasing poverty rates alongside the most economically and politically free period of human history (as during that time monarchies lost power and more nations became more capitalist) alongside the greatest period of technological growth. In short, Capitalism HAS lead to greatest decline of poverty ever.

You must be trolling... I have to say that as you are clearly acting in a way that denies proof/ a level of stupidity that should be assumed trolling for sanity..

Aaron Gomez
Aaron Gomez

I would argue that it is natural to want to ensure the survival of your offspring. While giving your entire earned wealth to your children might go over the line of just survival, it is following the natural instinct to care for your child. This natural instinct is just applied with what we, as humans, have created.
I'm against them passing it to their kids as capital
So you want to steal from them because you decided someone else deserves it? That's some serious entitlement.

Juan Davis
Juan Davis

nothing happens without her approval
Stop drinking that weak shit you call beer and sleep.

Camden Cooper
Camden Cooper

So here you claim the big shot CEOsheep is actually a communist at heart, giving away it's wealth to it's lambs.
Isn't that what Sup Forums's idea of communism is? Few people in power keeping it for themselves?
If you meant the head sheep's progeny, that also supports survival of the fittest, as the head sheeps genes are now passed on with a wealth advantage to continue the greater bloodline that already rose to the top.
Hahahahaha. So you agree that the CEO got to the top arbitrarily, but somehow his bloodline is better than the rest? At least try to troll properly.
You're just fucked in the head.
Projection much?

Nolan Gonzalez
Nolan Gonzalez

With privilege tokens and needs change?

Mason Rogers
Mason Rogers

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Jace Parker
Jace Parker

You suggest that inheritance of wealth breaks the natural order
Yes
turning the offspring into an elite class with resources that are disproportionate to their abilities?
Yes
And this in turn can make someone that is genetically inferior hold power over superior individuals?
Yes
I wonder if there is a solution to that conundrum. A final one, even.
(((Kek, I don't know))).

Carson Clark
Carson Clark

You are just ignoring how technological progress before that graph starts is tiny compared to what occurs within.
Dude, pi was discovered centuries ago, and still plays a huge role today. What we have today is built on top of what came before. That's why I hate arguments that say capitalism brings people out of poverty because technological improvements have been made at a steady pace throughout history.

It's only in recent times (during the British empire) that tech became so advanced that warfare shifted from physical battlefronts to economic battlefronts.

No its the facts. US dollar is strongest and thus most used backup currency and thus used most in conversion.
Then how the fuck did those faggots who made the graph extend the graph to the 1800s when the dollar wasn't a reserve currency? Did you check their methods or did you decided to believe their graph because you thought no other faggot on Sup Forums would call you out on it?
You must be trolling
Yeah man, with more than 90 posts, I'm the troll.

Jeremiah Wood
Jeremiah Wood

You suggest that inheritance of wealth breaks the natural order
Yes
How so?

Colton Sanchez
Colton Sanchez

That is true. Communism, eugenics, abortion etc are rooted in darwinism. Good fruits like, private property rights, human rights etc are rooted in Christianity.

Eli Allen
Eli Allen

I would argue that it is natural to want to ensure the survival of your offspring.
True, and I have nothing against people investing in training and educating their kids. K-selection is human nature.
While giving your entire earned wealth to your children might go over the line of just survival, it is following the natural instinct to care for your child.
Does it? Giving your wealth to your child is like giving into a tobacco addiction. You're sooo addicted to taking care of your child, that you don't think twice before crippling it by giving it capital and wealth that it did not earn.
So you want to steal from them because you decided someone else deserves it? That's some serious entitlement.
Hey, I didn't say I want rich people's stuff for my kids. I just want it put back in the system and the rich kids should restart the cycle of working hard like their parents. This really ensures good genes are passed on from generation to generation. Now you just have rich degenerate fucks wasting their talents and marrying whores because their survival and prosperity doesn't depend on good decisions anymore.

Brody Green
Brody Green

A fool and his money are soon parted.
Not in America. It takes 7 generations here.

Robert Peterson
Robert Peterson

genuine question

do you not value your individuality?

Aaron Reed
Aaron Reed

I wonder if there is a solution to that conundrum. A final one, even.
Hohoh, got em!

Lincoln Wilson
Lincoln Wilson

If you have wealth, you could have too many children. too many children working in sweatshop gives you unfair advantage under communism
limit one child / limit wealth = prosperity for all

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