How the FUCK did they get away with it? Just watched these short videos about Finland being the ally of Nazi Germany. I always thought it was more of a meme and they weren't really on the same side but according to these vids they were practically the same country let alone allies. Finns had concentration camps where they killed Slavs and commies. Finns had their own Waffen-SS soldiers that were war criminals but even they got away with it.
Because no one gives a shit about commies, and shortly after they became our enemies
Ethan Roberts
and lol at finns crying in the youtube comments.
Ryder Miller
lmao so who cares that they were nazis (fascists) and were war criminals because they were fighting against Soviets??? If i remember right didn't England declare war against Finland too?
Blake Price
because we were forced to betray our german brethren in the end (so allies didn't care anymore) and then we were really quiet so no one bothered us during the entire cold war
Jaxon Morgan
yeah but no one cares
Logan Sullivan
Still a better ally than Italy.
Julian Baker
You sometimes win when gambling
Levi Foster
because our shitty backstab we did to germany i guess
Ethan Perry
They got off the hook because of the backstab at the end
Jackson Lee
Finland did nothing wrong, they literally saved the north from judeo-bolshevism Heroes like Mannerheim or Simuna are thoroughly unappreciated
Jackson Sanchez
i also might add, that finland paid for everything afterwards, with interest, many others didn't
Benjamin Cooper
And they are still a National Socialist etnostate
Elijah Edwards
We had also 300 Jewish soldiers fighting with Nazis against Russians. Some of them were even offered Iron Cross (didn't accept it thou).
Ryder Taylor
Read the story of Lauri Törni
Isaiah Long
>allies refuse to help Finland >"neutral countries - such as Sweden block all shipments to Finland, even those not war armaments" >Face biggest military might in the world at the time >no one willing to help >your closest allies outright refuse to let deliveries of help/purchases >Join Germany as ally >bad goy
Alexander Miller
You did the right thing, although you did betray them in the end, no?
Luis Lopez
yeah when it was all going to shit Finns ended up fucking over Germans
Isaac Evans
Still probably their best European ally.
Christian Gonzalez
our subversive commies are doing everything in their power to reverse that
Jeremiah Myers
Didn't you have that fascist party with the guy riding the bear?
Jacob Williams
this might interest american readers
James Jones
i have no clue about a guy riding a bear
Sebastian Moore
Italy were never your friends, just that they needed a little help making a stand.
Charles Fisher
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Lucas Flores
1. Sweden helped Finland during the Winter War. 2. Finland began the Continuation War. 3. Sweden even allowed German army to transit through Sweden to help Finland in the continuation war, foregoing neutrality.
Sweden never blocked all shipments to Finland, not even during the Continuation War, that is bullshit.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
>Lauri Törni
Now that is what i call based. Guy was a true warrior, regardless of affiliation, he always joined the side that was killing soviets.
Jacob Young
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William Bailey
no shit nigger
Julian Torres
That's the hilarious part. Italy was downright a hindrance, Japan brought the US into the war without declaring on the USSR leaving Finland as Germany's best ally and they weren't even considered to be white and Finland not attacking Leningrad meant that they could hold the city.
Aaron Brown
Not to mention, Romania, Hungary, and Bulgaria were outright useless. Even Thailand was a better ally. There was also Division Azul.
Landon Barnes
1 sweden took finnish children as "refugees", most of them came back to finland after the war 2 finland hasnt start a single war u swuck 3 Sweden blocked all shipments and passings
ref BOOK *G. Mannerheim, Muistelmat, part 2, 1952, page 208
Parker Ward
Well it was not really useless, he provided a lot of men at the eastern front but when your enemies are three times higher, you lose. Hitler was a complete autist too, he refused a lot of help from several countries.
Landon Peterson
Nazi Germany had a lot of allies... and even more friends... but sadly still outnumbered by their enemies. streamable.com/97b7j
Owen Scott
Because they switched sides at the last minute.
Caleb Martinez
>just a prank bro
Daniel Lopez
To any fellow finns I recommend to read Wolf Halstin Lapin Sodassa. A book about the lapland war. It really give you a good idea about what happened there and feelings of soldiers on both sides(ours mainly). After reading that I didn't feel so bad about the german scorched earth tactic. But Instead I understood the bigger picture better.
Bitter it was indeed. But we had to do it. We had no choice.
Julian Rodriguez
>Started the Continuation War Dunno how shit is done over there in Swaudi Arabia rasförrädare, but over here it’s not considered wrong to try and get even and take your own stuff back after someone stole it.
Go blanda upp a little more somewhere else. You’re right that Swedish volunteers did come help, and they’ll be forever remembered as an example of what Nordic brotherhood was. Oh how you’ve befouled their noble legacy.
Noah Price
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Thomas Moore
Finland got away with it because it wasn't in the interests of the great powers to do anything about it. A curious relic that we were left with as a result is the facist style economy which worked incredibly well.
Oliver Butler
literally finland is the only country in the world that thinks they didn't start the continuation war. Your propaganda has been effective it seems.
Sure we started it. But is that a bad thing? Fuck no.
Kommunismin saasta pois Suomesta.
John Smith
I think the Croats were our most loyal ally
Robert Jackson
They were just trying to protect their homeland. Watch the winter war talvisota 1989 film very well done film.
Oliver Williams
Handshcar SS
Colton Clark
>such as Sweden block all shipments to Finland, You mean that ANGLO ''help'' that was supposed to be sent through Narvik and Swedish Lapland? Swedes were not that naive, they knew the ANGLOS used ''helping Finland'' as an excuse to invade Swedish Lapland to stop iron ore transportation to Germany.
The British Empire had their own war to prepare for, geopolitcs is not an arena where ''help'' is sent unconditionally and without personal gain.
Colton Ortiz
Don't care how many kikes and commies got lynched, independence wasn't lost.
Owen Jones
What i didn't understand from the videos, why was Himmler obsessed with Finland? They kinda glance over it.
Jason Brown
Get a load of this guy.
Only camps we had were prison camps for soviet soldiers. Maybe next time though.
We were allies with Third Reich, though no-one dared to say it officially. We wanted revenge against communist soviets for attacking us in 1939, so when Barbarossa steamrolled soviets we gladly joined.
We had a SS battalion of Finnish men fighting for Germany. They did not do any war crimes, according to history, but killed lots of soviets in the battle.
>you have to choose between being a slave to genocidal anti-culture commie union that you just got away from or fight them back with the help of someone who will let you keep your independence, culture and identity That's a tough one.
Hunter Hill
Literally you are the only one who thinks so.
Gavin Taylor
Fingols are unironically the true ubermensch
Daniel Miller
We literally did nothing wrong, get fucked.
Parker Watson
They didn't let the Jews back in.
Jonathan Martinez
new mountain dew flavor: Finland Did Nothing Wrong
Nathaniel Fisher
Did you also read that they turned and the Nazis and became a defacto ally of the Soviets from the end of WW2 and beyond?
Ryder Flores
I've heard that Finland is still technically at war with England, peace was never made official.
Jordan Fisher
When I walk in a mall in Helsinki and see all the shitskins I sure don't feel like we got away with it. Actually I feel nobody in Europe got away with it.
Xavier Evans
>Amerimongrel history We didn't ''turn on the nazis'' out of free will, it was forced upon us. Also we were never allied with Soviets, relations were kept at ice-cold neutral because you can't really be confrontational against an imperialistic nuclear superpower.
Joseph Ramirez
We were forced to it by the G*rmans, we had no other option. We are the real victim here. Why not talk about the polish death camps or allied war crimes. Yawn i'm getting tired i think we should all go to sleep right now.
*burns plans for Greater Finland*.
Aaron Thomas
they actually teach in schools (or at least they did during my school years) that we were "not really allies", that we were "just pretending" or that Finland simply used nazis as if they were equipment against the commies
I believe if you used the wrong wording in an exam to describe the relationship (for example implying it was a real alliance), you got points reduced
don't know if this was common, maybe I just had a retarded teacher
Christian Green
once Poland stops paying their tab for the death camps the Finns will be next, don't you worry
Bentley Russell
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Ethan Taylor
A BONDLAND THREAD! Everywhere where is Binland there allways are Baltics with cheep booze to shear with them. :D
Connor Rodriguez
Well done, but it's not "Brew", it is "Bräu" in German.
>The Shelling of Mainila (Finnish: Mainilan laukaukset) was a military incident on November 26, 1939, where the Soviet Union's Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila (located near Beloostrov), declared that the fire originated from Finland across the nearby border and claimed to have had losses in personnel. Through that false flag operation, the Soviet Union gained a great propaganda boost and a casus belli for launching the Winter War four days later.
>1939 >be stalin >bomb own city >claim fins did it >attack finland and balticum as revenge
>1940 >be finland >finially get germany to attack russia >attack russia at the same time >completely btfo russia and regain all terretories lost in the winter war >then suddenly stop fighting to drink vodka >russia can now fight german Army Group North with it's back free >germany just barely fails go capture St. Petersburg before winter >Army Group North almost fully freezes to death because no shelter >have to divert troops from Army Group Center to save North >Rest of Army Group Center just barely fails to take Moscow >everything falls to pieces
>fastforward to 1944 >finland turncloacks and abandons norwegians, danish german and especially swedish voulenteer soldiers who had fought for Finland (in Finland) for five fucking years, to be ramfucked by full Soviet Army groups
War could have been won in 3 months if fins had not sat on their asses being buttmad for not getting official help in the Winter War.
Fins Honorary Aryans, never.
Aiden Campbell
>appropriating white jonne culture
Christian Lee
''How the FUCK did they get away with it?'' Here's the answer >Gave away the biggest region in their country Karjala/Kareila which is like 172 400km sq. In other words, its still bigger than the three of the biggest regions in the country combined together (Lapland, Nothern Ostrobothnia, and Kainuu) and Karjala and 100 more richer. No wonder mongs scream whenever they are drunk ''Perkele! huomenna otetaan Karjala takaisin''
>Pay war reparation to Russia. First country ever paid that shit!
>when the allies won, Finland stabbed the brave German men, killed some, and captured others and handed them to Russia
Point is, Finland was a cuck before even being a cuck was a thing. But at least being a cuck paid it off, now back stabbing mongs pretending that they are belong to the white family.
Aiden Cooper
>defend themselves against communist aggression >this is bad because le ebil nazis go suck start a shotgun neocon scum
Jaxson Richardson
>finland turncloacks and abandons norwegians, danish german and especially swedish voulenteer soldiers who had fought for Finland (in Finland) for five fucking years, to be ramfucked by full Soviet Army groups Don't be like that based Norway. You guys were never evil, war criminal axis/nazis like Finns were. You were conquered but at least you didn't join Nazis like Finland.
Jack Russell
He has clearly assimilated well.
Adrian Ross
>Implying we did anything wrong
Chase Martin
Based Norge right?
Aiden Turner
That is just propaganda. There never were any Waffen-SS norwegian soldier unlike Finns who had whole battalion of them.
Nicholas Watson
In the end there was a guy from Finland who first served in the Finnish Defense Force, then in the SS, and then in the US Army, until he finally died during an air raid in the Vietnam War as a Major. He had been awarded the Mannerheim Cross, the Iron Cross and the Purple Heart throughout his extensive military career.
His name was Lauri Törni, which he later anglicized into Larry Thorne.
Joseph Adams
Who did nothing wrong.
Lincoln Foster
Oh and now that I checked his wikipedia page, that there medal next to his US pic is the Bronze Star Medal.
dumbfuck. Five times as many norwegians fought against the commies, mainly under finnish command, as norway had resistancecucks fighting for the jews back in norway.
then the voulenteer-soldiers who fought for finland were almost fully wiped out after finland pulled back from their own borders. they got shellfucked and rammed by the communist horde, alone.
But I get that, I really do. The war was beyond lost at that point. What I don't get is why Finland deliberarely lost the war for Europe in 1941 when they refused to keep Soviet occupied at St. Petersburg. I simply cannot find any reason for it. It was the worst betrayal of the war, and its effects lost the war fully.
If Finland had just done a tiny bit of offensive operations, north Russia would have been taken in 1941, the US supplies to Archangelsk would have dried up 100% and moscow would have fallen within months.
other than that, fins were pretty fucking based, an still are. but they lost us the war, and countless lives were lost for their passive agressive grudge for not getting proper help in the winter war
Dominic Scott
>if fins had not sat on their asses
Adrian Peterson
I would vote the Hungarians. The siege of Budapest and the Arrowcross party were intense.
Dylan Carter
Was Finland the fourth Axis?
Blake Price
Mannerheim was a traitor, his loyalty to russia from tzar times showed. He was a boomer of his time, not radical like other leaders of europe. youtube.com/watch?v=Y5fbmEy1GL4
Jaxson Lewis
>burgerman does not know the difference between the winterwar and the continuation war american education, every time
>Lauri Törni That's like real life Devil's Guard, good read
Samuel Taylor
>allied with nazi-germany >never gave up the swastika
Adrian Bailey
based finns
Leo Hall
Read about him in my book on SOG in Vietnam. Role model
Michael Jackson
Dont take the victim role you cuck, be proud of what your nation did.
Luke Myers
I think your information about the volunteers is completely inaccurate, I haven't heard anything about what you describe. Maybe you could provide us with some sources?
Capturing Leningrad wasn't really up to us, and I don't think it was that strategically important, just a massive concentration of civilians and some factories, but the really important targets for the war effort were somewhere else. Even if Finland would have taken a part in the siege, it wouldn't had been that helpful, since the number of men we could spare would have been so low and we couldn't had been able to keep up a sustained offensive. Germany lost more men in casualties during the siege of Leningrad than all of Finland had available for the war.
I don't think taking northern Russia was possible with the sort of equipment and manpower we had. Even just the attacking phase of Continuation War was bad enough for the casualties, if we had pushed further the loss in manpower would had been even worse, probably too bad to be able to hold the eventual push back.
Taking Archangelsk simply wasn't realistic. Offensive operations in the sort of terrain that Finland and Northern Russia are is really difficult, you have to build a shit ton of roads and bridges just to bring enough supplies. And you have to remember that the enemy is trying to stop you from doing just that.
TL;DR Finland didn't have enough men to attack too far and chose instead to take up strong defensive positions.
Alexander Russell
To be fair we used the swastika decades before the nazis did.
Oliver Ramirez
Mannerheim betrayed europe, we might have sacrificed our people to stalin and gulags in the process but it would've been worth it.
Elijah Sullivan
why do you have to be a dick and ruin the story with facts?
now I need to tell everyone nazis copied our swastika
Christian Campbell
maybe ustaše, but rest not quite. We had civil war during WW2, it's still relevant, every discussion leads to ustaše vs partisans