Fate series

Enough talk about

>muh strongest servant

Who is the weakest/most uselles servant?

Rider is the least weakest.

Literal zero competition

Angry Manjew

Andersen

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Time loop or not, he's weak as shit.

Ignoring this guy It would be Emiya. Guy said it himself and was only useful during the grail war because he had knowledge of everyone in it.

Rider won a war, also could oneshoot most servants that get summoned there.

That's bullshit tho

Blue Beard

But he has a sword technique that can kill saber alter. That's pretty good. He's a pretty versatile servant in general. You could do a lot worse.

Shhh
Fate people dislike the very idea of a jap becoming a great hero and will go out of their way to push their quasi gay blonde haired blue eyed over powered aryans as the bestest and tuffest characters ever

>weaker than a human

Gilles can summon Lovecraftian monsters, if anything Medea is the worst since her magic is outdated with her only pro being the ability to summon fake servants with enough mana and her NP even though it's not even perfect

>believing Emiya's words
Emiya is mediocre at best, but he's still way beyond actual shit tiers like Andersen or Mata Hari.

But japs are honorary aryans.

Versatile, yes but generally he will lose 1v1 vs any servant. Even if its by a small margin.

He killed Hercules seven times. That's pretty strong.

Just about any Assassin, its such a shitty class and doesn't even fit with the idea of summoning a Heroic Spirit.

And then he died. Not a win.

Trying to judge Emiya is pointless, TM is very conflicted or crazy about his tier, they go back and forth on shitting on him and wanking him.

Probably because he is the most popular male character, but they also don't want their OC self insert Batman to be beating fucking King Arthur and all these famous people.

LANCER GA SHINDA

この人でなし!

I can't find the quote now but Manjew's skill Annihilation Wish A exponentially increases his speed until it burns him out and kills him. But the moment right before he dies he can only be challenged by the highest tier Servants.

Manjew

*teleports behind you"
psssh...nothin personnel...kid..........

Manjew, Shakes, Giles if you want to win

>Gilles can summon Lovecraftian monsters
which will destroy the world (you included) and the grail

>medea is the worst
shes medium tier- with a competent master and prep time she could be rather strong with her ability to use magecraft and powerful utility abilities

>they literally ban hassans in apocrypha because they are OP

Nasu is always downplaying Shirou and Emiya because he doesn't want them to look too OP and make the the rst ofnthe servants lok like the bunch of jobbers they are in comparison

EMIYA is kinda shit in CQC

Cu was demolishing him in both encounters

Yeah, because not once does he actually fight seriously. He just jobs. The one time he fights at all with any serious intent is in HA at the bridge.

>He just jobs
Is there a single Servant in FSN that doesn't job?

Did you have a stroke?

Lancer

Saber tries her best.

It's a shame Lancer is such a meme jobber, he is probably the third strongest servant in the fifth war.
E rank luck really fucks him up. Cu with D rank luck basically wins an entire war solo, as a class he is weaker as

He was actually closing the distance and pushing back Cu just by sheer swordspam

What happens after Hollow Ataraxia? After the dream ends, does shit go back to normal, with Baguette waking up and Manjew being gone and all the dead folks from SN being dead again?

Yeah

Mata Hari, Andersen, there are tons of cheap cash-in servants with awful combat capabilities, where summoning one would basically be tantamount to committing suicide.

The real question is what happens when you give 7 strategically competent masters 7 equally shit servants and set them off in a grail war against each other?

>pushing back Cu
are we talking about the same fights? he was on the defensive in both- and in both cases only survived because cu let him live

That's depressing.

more Kuzuki Vs Saber moments

also more kerry vs kayneth moments

The masters conspire to kill all the servants and work together to attain the grail.

So, better? Powerlevels are bullshit anyway, better to put Servants on the same level as mages since they're there already in all but name.

You can't fucking share the grail, that's why they fight over it.

>You can't fucking share the grail,
Says who?
>that's why they fight over it.
Isn't it because they all want it for themselves and few actually know what it actually is?

Dream world happens in most of the worlds.
But its up to reader to decide what world he wants. Real world might be actually the same as a dream one. So i dont see how it is

>narration makes it explicitly clear that Archer was closing the distance
>Cu has to resort to using his NP on the first fight because he had enough of Archer's infinite swords bullshit

>You can't fucking share the grail,
the grail is an infinite mana battery in essence, and it does a wish with that mana

unless you have the same wish as someone else or just want some mana its not really feasible to split it between the parts

>Powerlevels are bullshit anyway, better to put Servants on the same level as mages since they're there already in all but name.
it can be cool, but it also undermines the "scale" Gilgamesh or Lancelot or herc would be far less impressive and posses less threat to them if so master could just beat them

>inb4 kuzuki/shirou
in both cases its extremely specific circumstances and external forces acting

...

Only one person can use the grail, but there's no rule saying one person can't wish for something that equally benefits all seven.
"I wish for the desires of all masters to come true" is probably pushing it, but we don't know the Grail's stance on run on sentences.

>unless you have the same wish as someone else or just want some mana its not really feasible to split it between the parts
What if your wish is to make everyone's wish come true?

pretty sure EMIYA could kill Medea easily.

>How to summarize Nasu's writing in 4 words

>50 posts in and nobody has mentioned this
Fucking newfags everywhere.

the grail says fuck you and summons manjew

it cant even resurrect people properly (see giles having the grail)

its basically the dragonballs in cup form and with different restrictions

in a straight up fight? sure- as could most other melee/knight servants

but medea isnt made for straight up fights, her real use is in her utility

see

Support oriented servants in a regular 7 FFA HGW would be completely useless.

>Just about any Assassin

Assassins like Carmilla would be fine for Servant combat. She's got top tier base power, strong abilities and an amazing single target NP. For more traditional assassins, the threat of having a servant specialized in master elimination is a good thing to have for the event as a whole.

I wish we'd one day be able to get a PUBG type game based on the FATE franchise. Elimination style 7 player FFA or 7v7 Team with randomized servants and meta-game progression via your master character would be pretty great.

Much better than skinner box shit phone games like Fate/GO.

Also, narration makes it clear that in that fight Lancer was nerfed by Kirei's Command Spell.

>"if he would have used his noble phantasm, i would have died"
bulge = gg

>EMIYA
>weak
I would have believe it but Extella/Zero Nameless fought the likes of Gawain, Vlad III, and other out of his league tier with a half-burn and half crumbled and only lost to Imperial Privilege fucking Nero.

Heck, EMIYA has the most inconsistent stats.

seramis is pretty useless
an assassin with a caster subset
only usefull in making poison
her noble phantasm isn't useable in a normal grail war and takes forever to even complete.