>Will China surpass the US as the world’s greatest economy any time soon? No, it won't. >Why or Why not? U.S. controls the oil trade and thus everyone needs to sell U.S. stuff to obtain dollars to buy oil. This allows the U.S. to export it's jobs overseas to maintain the peace in the world via economic opportunity distribution. China is one such example. The Chinese economy is predominantly supported by its exports to Europe (NATO allies of the U.S) and the U.S.
China can never overpower the U.S. without crippling its own economy because China produces everything it needs and it needs the U.S. and Europe to consume everything it produces to maintain peace in the Chinese mainland via jobs for everyone.
So no, there's no winning outcome for China - it loses if it controls the oil trade and it loses if it doesn't. China is a vassal state of the U.S. and it will be for the foreseeable future.
>Trump is teaching his grandkids Chinese. That should tell you something. You fucking moron, Ivanaka was teaching her kids Chinese long before Trump decided to run for president because Ivanka had a Chinese nanny to take care of her kids.
Fucking kys retard.
Jack Reyes
> USA says China invading countries and taking over. >Us has military bases around the world to keep everybody in check >US uses threats and sanctions to steal resources >China working to make deals and forge alliances
China can't into innovation. They must have a master to learn (read steal) from.
Jason Thompson
carefull, thats only true till its not. and then your fucked.
Jeremiah Gutierrez
I married Chinese and we travel there every couple of years. First time was like, “See that stuff is run down because communism”
Then it got a lot better
The most recent trip everything was clean and new, the air was fresh, there were high speed trains that cost $10 between all major cities. We traveled al over the country and it was the same deal. Hundreds of buildings under construction. Places that were once rubble are now skyscrapers 80 stories tall.
Meanwhile the city I am in had bridges collapse and roads closed when infrastructure failed. When we went to NYC it was disgusting and blacks followed us around.
I’ll tell you this much, no fucking way are my kids learning Spanish
Gabriel Fisher
My goodness, what an angry little bitch in the end! Lol *hugs you gently with an erection*
Josiah Scott
that girl looks like a fucking robot
Landon Brooks
If the American empire crashes, wouldn’t the world economy also crash? Where will you go to buy your sandals?
Jack Hill
I went to China last year, and it was impressive. I went to Chongqing, and it was way better than NYC.
Elijah Moore
All Chinese girls are robots, bruh.
Angel Turner
>Will China surpass the US as the world’s greatest economy any time soon? In 5 years? 10? Why or Why not?
It's inevitable, China has a gigantic high IQ population.
>If so, what can Americans do to invest in their future? Can the US survive in a Chinese global economy?
Burgerland, just as Europe need to get their shit together, stop importing third-worlders, lower taxes, stop putting up with women's bullshit and end the retarded virtue signaling.
Luke Sanders
the European Union could surpass the US in the next 5-7 years, China maybe in 15-20
Henry Ross
>>the European Union could surpass the US in the next 5-7 years,
HAHAHAHHAHA...Who can believe such a thing?
Andrew Long
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Easton Cook
i think in 2030? trump is going to send in his grandkids as spies
EU GDP figures are bloated because they also includes lots of money bouncing between different state managed sectors. I would estimate that the Swedish GDP is 15-20% lower than what is reported, simply because there is so much bloat because of in-house government transactions that is added to the GDP.
Austin Miller
China is already largest economy in the world in terms of sheer PPP. Despite meme shills who predicted collapse of Chinese economy, Yuan just had the best year start since 1994, while the US dollar just had the worst start in all history. What it tells you is there's a fundamental transfer of wealth happening right now, and guess who'll be blamed for it in 2020.
Andrew Butler
>and guess who'll be blamed for it in 2020.
ROG? (Russian-occupational-government)
Also, Sergei, does your government make you pay VAT for stuff on Aliexpress?
Dominic Cruz
No. It requires humanity, which the Chinese lacks.
Nathan Ward
Why would your perception of humanity be required to have the worlds largest economy? It could be that Western empathy is actually the weakness that is destroying our countries or at least empathy for the out group.
Andrew Long
>says the country that literally genocided natives to squat on their land
you confuse humanity with decadence. the romans made the same mistake
Jonathan Edwards
because humanity is nescessary for invention, chinese lost theirs long time ago and havent invented anything since.
Gabriel Harris
>If so, what can Americans do to invest in their future? learn mandarin, duh
>Can the US survive in a Chinese global economy? what is global trade
Nathaniel Allen
don't forget the petroyuan. when the RMB displaces the USD as the world's reserve currency, the US will be reduced to banana republic status
Josiah Robinson
You don’t really believe that, do you? Most European countries are struggling with the cost of immigrants and refugees flooding their major cities. Welfare creates massive debts.
Asher Garcia
>being this ignorant
people said the same thing about japan in the 70s. look where they are now. now imagine japan the size of china. this is the future
Andrew Stewart
I think this is because a lot of money from the US and China gets funneled to Europe for tax evasion purposes.
Tyler Hernandez
But japanese are not chinese, you ignorant twat.
Christopher Watson
This seems plausible.
Landon Torres
t. kike
Anthony Gomez
No, China is a third world country with lower living standards than Romania. It has also fucked itself with the 1 child policy and lack of women of breeding age.
Charles Rivera
fair point. chinese are superior, this is why kike slaves like you are shitting your pants
Nolan Ramirez
oy vey goym, you master race puppet
Luke Peterson
China is growing.
Connor Young
This is a scary thought right here.
Nathan Morris
only kikes take advantage of others (((humanity))). you parasites feed off of sympathy and goodwill of the goyim
Luke Miller
i guess you still have the EU PARTNERSHIP
Aiden Evans
only scary to pale niggers
Brayden Wright
Think of the nations as teams. Team USA relies on the best equipment strapped to uppity niggers and mexicans. Team China doesnt have as good equipment but are capable of mobilizing as a whole.
We're fucked bro.
Brayden Hall
You’re managing just fine with your 18 trillion. China on the other hand could crash the world market as they please at any moment by selling out their gold reserves. They have enlarged their portofilio of foreign assets, they’re building massive infrastructure on sea and taking over their near by seas. Africa is owned by China, Zimbabwes national currency is both the American dollar and the Yuan.
Then there is the New Silk Road, which will be yet another step into prosperity for them. America is starting to look like a paper tiger here.
The only thing that could keep them is their low birthrates, but it will be a while before they start to feel it
Nicholas Thompson
Great points, but have you been to China recently? It looks like Blade Runner with mega cities! I’m not a China shill. For the first time in my life I took a trip overseas to see the Great Wall of China, and it’s teally advanced a lot.
Jayden Jackson
Kek
James Allen
i'm happy china is growing, english and mandarin are now fighting for that number 1 spot of most spoken language.
Jordan Ramirez
What was i thinking using sarcastic shitposting... Sorry forgot americans dont get it
Jesus, so what can the US do to catch up? I think most Trump supporters voted for him to try and find a solution to this exact problem, but it sounds like China played the better chess game, and things are starting to change on massive levels.
I blame previous US Administrations who allowed this to happen in the first place, but how do we fix things to our US advantage?
Could war be eminent because of this economic power struggle?
Jaxon Evans
Not until they embrace (((diversity)))
Gabriel Hall
Yes. >Why or Why not? Niggers
Eli Murphy
GDP is meme. PRC overtook USA long time ago in production. USA makes corn and military equipment. Everything else comes from EU and China
Jackson Gonzalez
oh no, chinks don't fall for jewish tricks, we're fucked: the thread
Josiah Barnes
The dems and jews will be very happy.
Noah Russell
Yeah. Discovered her today and watching her vids. Sexy as fuck and smart, plus super into new tech.
Evan Lewis
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Bentley Anderson
India, Australia, Japan, and the US recently agreed to contain the Belt and Road project. Furthermore, African countries such as Zambia are becoming increasingly sick of the Chinese.
Sebastian Evans
sounds neat, but since it's China we will doubt it until it is verified by westerners.
They really do lie about most everything.
Noah Johnson
Diversity is killing the West.
John Lewis
>threading your own post get out plebbit
Gavin Cooper
>the Belt and Road project I’ll have to Google this. Next time explain shit, and don’t assume people know what you know.
Brayden Rodriguez
>While europe, Canada, USA deal with massive immigration problems, overbloated welfare states, and the left trying to commit economic suicide for the sake of virtue signaling, China just had to do the status quo to keep a massive economic competitive advantage.
Years from now people will lie saying it was because of communism when really marxist/leftist policies allowed them to thrive.
Literally the only thing that can harm China now is Pakistan pulling them into a war with India or their massive retiring population taxing on their extremely smaller newer generation that has 1 person caring for 4+ people before even caring for kids.
Jayden Walker
Very interesting. >The Silk Road Economic Belt and the 21st-century Maritime Silk Road, also known as the One Belt and One Road Initiative, (OBOR), The Belt and Road, (B&R) and The Belt and Road Initiative, (BRI) is a development strategy proposed by Chinese Government that focuses on connectivity and cooperation between Eurasian countries, primarily the People's Republic of China (PRC), the land-based Silk Road Economic Belt (SREB) and the ocean-going Maritime Silk Road (MSR). The strategy underlines China's push to take a larger role in global affairs with a China-centered trading network.
Jose Butler
China's massive infrastructure plan designed to reintroduce the Silk Road project China helmed until the 15th century.
In reality, it is imperialism designed to introduce mass quantities of debt to developing nations and take over their resources when they default as planned.
Jackson Brooks
neither china nor the USA is a vassel state to either, it's more of an extreme economic dependancy that will result in global economic collapse on a scale far greater than the bronze age collapse.
Zachary Gutierrez
Haven’t all great empires expanded in the past using these methods? Rome, for example. History repeats itself
Jacob Robinson
Accurate.
Jace Perry
Official Catholicism. They have a difficult situation right there. There are two big Churches. Originally the religion was prohibited, so when they became tired of arresting and making christians dissapear, they though that making an official branch would be more efficient. You know, you use the religion to indoctrinate towards the communism. The problem is the not-official continued existing in the catacombs and they didn't accept the official. You know, you have been prosecuted for decades and the new people didn't suffer as much as you. That's most of it. Anyway both are getting points in common and is a matter of time that they become the same.
Easton Russell
US gov doesn't even give a shit about debt
Caleb Peterson
>Muh debt It's spelled bonds and it's more an investment than a debt. Apple isn't in debt to you when you buy their stock.
Ethan Gomez
You’re not in a tragic position. The best thing to do is boost your GDP, get the debt down, birthrates up and the army strong. The petrodollar is what keeps you on top. You control the ME which has 2/3 of the worlds oil. You can stay on top as long as you innovate. China along with Japan seem to be stagnating. All the worlds technology still comes out of Europe and NA. Sure, Japan did invent quite a bit but judging by the size, intelectual potential of their population and technological advancement, they should be way further. USA on the other hand is still a pioneer. China doesnt invent anything of It’s own, only little adjustments
Brody Morgan
almost certainly, by continuing to manufacture cheap shit at rock bottom prices. don't get me wrong, anyone could do what china does right now, but they're doing it cheaper than the rest of the world so they get a fuckton of business. As they "industrialize," they'll produce more valuable goods at nearly the same scale. Their raw economy will be larger than the US economy. I doubt they'll touch per capita stats any time soon, if ever.
Jonathan Parker
>taking care of niggers >humanity China is more advanced in infrastructure than the US thanks to them not taking care of niggers. Empathy needs to fucking die
Eli Perry
>lending people your money with a promise of payment at an increased rate is not putting them in debt You're literally retarded, friend. Just because someone profits from it doesn't mean the other group isn't indebted
Justin Nelson
t. wang dong li
Daniel Torres
The problem comes down to the availability of information. Remember, Africa is changing China as much as China is changing Africa. The closer they grow, the more their relationship shows its cracks. Numerous folks from Zambia were gunned down during protests over illegal copper mining.
Justin Peterson
I don't even like China. I would like that USA continues to dominate. Devil you know is better than one that you don't, especially when other devil is led by communist party that has hiszory of destroying tradition, starving it's own people with stupid decisions and cracking down on any kind of disloyalty to the party
Jaxson Jenkins
what about outside of the major cities? dont alot of them still lack proper toliets and shit? i do think they can really shift and modernize alot quicker than western countries, but they still have a long way to go, great start nontheless.
Charles Thomas
Lol imagine being this delusional, I bet you are a little chink cockroach yourself
Ian Anderson
It's not the same kind of debt as a loan. It's a bond. And because of inflation and GDP growth, it's effectively nothing.
Blake Taylor
>You know, you use the religion to indoctrinate towards the communism.
You spic does have a IQ lower than room temperature.
It's not towards to the communism, it's towards to the loyalty to the Party, or say authority. You can do almost anything as long as you don't go against the authoritarian political system.
China has nothing to do with communism, even from the beginning, the doctrine is just being used to maintain the power of ruling party. At this stage China is a combination of extreme capitalism, slavery and authoritarian.
Ayden Perry
China is literally India tier outside Beijing-Shanghai level cities.
Isaac Smith
who is china selling to? the west. who are they not selling to? china/africa. so what happens if america gets a recession? china is still poor as fuck mate. it doesn't become developed in such a short time, it'll take a few wars + 50 years.
Thomas Howard
>It's not the same kind of debt as a loan it is, it is exactly the same kind of debt as a loan, one person gives another money in promise of greater returns later on.
The government doesn't "count" them as loans because the debt isn't being collected until the agreed upon date or later.
anybody who does not get bonds with yields higher than the rate of inflation is a poor businessman.
Matthew Reed
When white guilt kills of all the white people china is next in line. Japans/Korea are not fertile enough and Muslims are too retarded to do anything on their own.
Jason Bell
Change it for socialism then, It's absolutely irrelevant to the point we were talking about. Do you prefer gobernment? There you go. The point is that there is a official Catholic Church and another which is not only non-official but which is prosecuted.
Joshua Myers
Implying US isn't a banana republic now.
Nathaniel Powell
chinese will not surpass anything when a good chunk of them are still living in cages and cooking food using parts off a washing machine. what a joke. china has a chance of surpassing the usa as much as india does.
Chase Bailey
>I went to China last year, and it was impressive "What good benefits does an ethnically homogeneous society provide it's people"?
Brayden Taylor
uhh we'll triple down on coal and fracking and manufacturing and oil discovery/drilling, cut down on renewables, tech and ai and medicine. this will secure americas future
Aiden Morgan
didn't the chinese government recently start to crack down on christians this past year
Wyatt Cooper
She really should stop skipping leg day.
Ayden Rodriguez
i wonder how many beta fucks fund this roastie to do whatever she wants
pathetic
Tyler Reyes
This makes no sense, why you guys allow dogs to drive?!?!?!?
I’ll have to check out this Zambia event, sounds like shit is getting toasty
Jacob Ortiz
This. The US is def the lesser of the two (or three counting Russia) evils. Communist countries tend not to care so much about human rights, according to history
Wyatt Turner
There are NO toilets in most of China. Even in the Beijing airport, you shit and pee in a whole in the ground. Most hotels and modern apartments in cities do have toilets, but not in the country. I had a toilet in an apartment in Jiafangbei, but no toilet in Jiangbei It depends on where you go.