Did y'all ever wonder if God is real and the flat earth firmament reality is the truth...

Did y'all ever wonder if God is real and the flat earth firmament reality is the truth? It cannot be denied that modern Copernican/Tysonian views of the universe are designed to make human beings feel small and meaningless... And, we all know the true power of the individual...

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Just how many scientists have said Earth is a closed system. NASA is fueling this meme with with their man-made images and underwater video shoots.

you can't handle the truth

"We can't go to the moon anymore. We had that technology... but we destroyed it."

this is one of those subjects that im iffy on. All the mathematics NASA puts out contradicts previously released mathematics released by them (rotation speed of the earth for example), and the fact that the horizon NEVER curves no matter what distance you look from (or the height too).

All it means is that we will continue to not understand gravity and that our local sun will continue to orbit. This theory would have to be based leaked Antarctica knowledge, otherwise it's wild speculation.

doesn't work if gravity is to exist. same if you replace gravity with buoyancy

Wondered once, found gnosticism. Believe in flat earth/firmament

>Great ice ball theory
Lost.

Think about this one, friend. Why are the seasons caused by axis tilts and why do they occur with such precision, especially given our elliptical orbit around the sun? The elliptical orbit causes the distance of the earth from the sun to vary by millions of miles around the 93 million mile average estimate. Why does this not affect Earth's temperature? Surely the radiation's strength is directly correlated to the distance from the radiating object... Yet, despite this wild orbit, we see perfect and mechanical seasons allegedly caused by a 10,000 mile shift in distance/angle from the sun caused by the earth's ~23.5° axis.

Yes! Density and magnetism > gravity

i'm not saying i believe in the Heliocentric models. It's just that saying the earth is flat is a HUGE step for me when it comes to being able to "prove" it to some extent. i was quicker to embracing National Socialism and i was born in the most liberal state. I'm currently working on the mathematics to atleast DISPROVE the globe-model.
Gravity wouldn't work in the giant-snowball model because the edges of the flat earth are on a different location on the sphere, thus having a different direction of gravitational pull. If there is no such thing as gravity, things would still float up or sink down in a curved fashion, to conform to the shape of the atmosphere and its thermal-dynamic

There's all sorts of esoteric models, but none as eyegasmic as this one

that one makes absolutely no sense

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Here
youtu.be/mkuRqZ-SssI

Von Braun's the father of NASA has
>the heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork Psalm 19:1

Hmmmmmmmmm

*has on his gravestone

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I was patiently looking through the catalog waiting for a shitty Flat Earth thread to be made so I could turn it into a comfy Hollow Earth thread. Time to fire up my Hollow Earth copypastas! The sudden popularity of the Flat Earth theory three years ago is a CIA psyop that is designed to hide the fact that Earth is actually hollow. This is a common technique that intelligence agencies use to deceive the masses (I call that technique 'conspiracy misdirection'): They promote a conspiracy theory that they KNOW is FALSE and want you to think you're red-pilled by believing that false conspiracy theory is TRUE while using that false conspiracy theory to hide a TRUE conspiracy theory related to it that has even MORE far-reaching implications than the false conspiracy theory. For example, the 'Moon landing hoax' conspiracy theory is being used to hide the TRUE conspiracy theory that we went to the Moon and found artificial objects there (or we knew there were artificial objects there all along and went to the Moon simply to bring some of those artificial objects back to Earth). The official account of the Moon landing AND the Moon landing hoax conspiracy theory are BOTH FALSE. NASA itself is covertly promoting the Moon landing hoax conspiracy theory. (end of part 1)

(start of part 2) Earth is hollow with polar openings that lead into its hollow interior. Outer Earth governments know about this, but are not telling the masses.
Daily reminder that there was supposed to be a voyage to the North Pole in 2007 to find out if there's an opening at the North Pole that leads into the Inner Earth World (and thus prove once and for all that Earth is hollow). The leader of the expedition was Steve Currey and he suddenly died from a brain tumour shortly before the expedition began so all of the money they got from people who were going to join the expedition was refunded. The new leader of the expedition was Brooks Agnew and the new expedition was meant to be in 2013, but shortly after THAT expedition was about to begin, his film crew suddenly vanished without a trace so THAT expedition was cancelled too (and, once again, the money they got from people who wanted to join their expedition was refunded). The expedition was/is known as the 'North Pole Inner Earth Expedition'. Here's a link to the official North Pole Inner Earth Expedition page:

x2-radio.com/phoenixsciencefoundation/npiee/index.html

Flat Earth theory = Reddit

Hollow Earth theory = Sup Forums

Also, Terry Smith was an Alaskan bush pilot associated with this expedition who agreed to fly directly over the North Pole to see if there was an opening there but he suddenly died in a plane crash on August 9 2010 before he could make that flight. NONE of these incidents are (((coincidences))). There is a world inside our world. (end of part 2)

(start of part 3) I unironically think that when we look for life on other planets that we're looking for life in the wrong place by looking only at the outer surfaces of those planets. I think of a planet as being like a house and houses are meant to be lived on the inside. We're living on the roof of our house and are at the mercy of the elements. It's probably rare as fuck for life to exist on the outer surfaces of planets. Alternatively, we can think of the inner surface of a planet as being like the 'womb' of that planet (which keeps us safe from things like asteroids and cosmic radiation), and that when a sapient species living on the inner surface of a planet becomes able to leave that planet, that species has become a spacefaring civilisation. Also, Valiant Thor (also known as 'Val Thor' for short) claimed that he came from Venus, but that he lived UNDERGROUND on Venus. That to me suggests that Venus (like every other planet, including Earth itself) is hollow. Also, Phil Schneider also said that the Val Thor story was true and (((they))) fucking killed Phil Schneider. (end of part 3)

(start of part 4) Check out this page for more information about Hollow Venus:

holloworbs.com/Venus.htm

Also, it seems as though Venus has binary openings (pic related). (end of part 4)

(start of part 5) You can't hide anything in a flat Earth because it's fucking flat, but you CAN hide an entire world and an entire civilisation and sapient species (I call them 'intraterrestrials') inside a hollow Earth. As someone who has intensely researched the Hollow Earth theory for almost a decade, there is a VAST amount of evidence for the Hollow Earth theory - scientific evidence, mathematical evidence and even evidence from many ancient myths in many different parts of the world in many different periods of time throughout human history. Consider this: How come the Hollow Earth theory almost NEVER gets mentioned as an alternative to the Mainstream Earth 'theory' (i.e. the theory that Earth is round and solid) by the mainstream media? The mainstream media is pushing the Mainstream Earth vs. Flat Earth narrative and pretty much NEVER mentioning the Hollow Earth theory. Does that not seem suspicious to you?

The Hollow Earth theory is reasonable not only in scientific terms, but also because of the fact that myths of underground worlds are almost as common as flood myths worldwide. Earth's hollowness changes everything we think we know about geology, geography, planetary formation, biology, human history, physics, etc. EVERYTHING - and THAT is why Earth's hollowness is being kept a secret from the masses. (end of part 5)

(start of part 6) Earth has a central 'sun'. Every planet has a central 'sun' (this is why Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune have auroras - just like Earth does). Leonhard Euler, the greatest mathematician of all time, advocated a Hollow Earth model that included a central 'sun'. A hollow Earth would have gravity in its interior. Earth's centre of gravity is NOT at Earth's centre (contrary to popular belief), but is instead in the centre of Earth's crust. This is why the people who live in the Inner Earth World (AKA Agartha) walk upside-down by our perspective here in the Outer Earth World. Furthermore, gravity is both attractive AND repulsive. The 'sun' at Earth's centre (which is actually a naturally occurring nuclear fission reaction) emits repulsive gravity, so that the people who live on Earth's inner surface don't get pulled into it. Celestial bodies are kept in stable orbits due to electromagnetic forces, not gravity. Furthermore, gravity is vastly weaker than electromagnetism. Also, Earth's inner surface has an upward-pointing curvature. This means that if you stood on the inner surface of Earth, you would actually see land in the sky. Pic related. (end of part 6)

let's say the hollow earth is real... how come the ocean's horizon never curves? in any direction?
>you can't hide anything in a flat Earth because it's fucking flat
yes you can. the human eyes can only see so far, because of the depth of perception and the "bleed" effect on visuals past that distance.

(start of part 7) The space fakery shit from NASA doesn't discredit the Hollow Earth theory. I even admit that the space fakery shit from NASA is probably true, since I firmly believe in the existence of a secret space program (or possibly even multiple secret space programs), so (((they))) are probably faking shit when it comes to the public space program, but doing things for real when it comes to the secret space program(s). And I have no doubt that (((they))) airbrush out the holes at the poles in satellite photos of the poles. Think bigger and think outside the box.

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity..... anything you can imagine, we already know how to do." - Ben Rich, Lockheed Martin (end of part 7)

(start of part 8) Earth is both honeycomb-like AND hollow. It doesn't have to be one or the other. It's both. Earth's crust is like Swiss cheese, with lots of vast holes all over the place with non-human entities living inside them. These holes are basically unique, enclosed ecosystems in and of themselves. Check out this page for more information about this:

holloworbs.com/cavern_worlds.htm (end of part 8)

(start of part 9) The Hollowpill is the final frontier.

Flatpill = Blue pill

Hollowpill = Red pill

Flat Earth is about limitation and retarded shit like "Outer space doesn't exist." and "There were no dinosaurs.", whereas Hollow Earth is about unlimited possibilities.

We were NOT born too late to explore Earth, for there are STILL new lands for us to discover and colonise. Take the Hollowpill. Flat Earthers are gatekeepers of the reality of Earth's hollowness. The 'hollow planets' model means that there are TWICE as many planets for us to explore, conquer and colonise, because each planet has TWO surfaces to live on - an outer surface AND an inner surface! (end of part 9)

We all are small and meaningless, it is through our deeds that we become great. A round nor flat earth makes you spechul. You alone do that, and even if difficult, man was meant to explore and to settle far away. Going "huur duur the earth is flat!" Isn't going to stop cosmic ass fucker from coming to fuck you over.

"God helps those who help themselves." God is indeed real, but that does not make them a magical genie that grants you safety and your every wish. You may see the vast void of space as meaningless, but I see it as oppertunity, one which our foolish species won't grab while pillaging the planet for make new I-phones every year.

(start of part 10) The (((Flat Earth theory))) teaches us that we should ALWAYS TRUST our five senses ("My eyes are telling me that Earth is flat, so Earth MUST be flat!"). The (((Flat Earth theory))) teaches us that EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS EXACTLY AS IT SEEMS. What we call 'reality' is illusory and therefore malleable, which means that nothing is impossible. There are two 'realities' going on side by side in this world, the one that the masses think is 'real' (what I call 'Movie Screen Earth') because (((certain people))) tell them it's 'real' and the one that is actually 'real'. The one that is actually 'real' is SO UNBELIEVABLY DIFFERENT to the one that the masses think is 'real' that it would make your head spin. The sky is not blue, nothing is solid because atoms are made of empty space, everything is always moving (including the ground that you walk on) and nothing ever touches anything because an atom can never touch any other atom due to electrical forces repelling them. Your feet never touch the ground. Also, the picture I've just posted is NOT yellow - it's red and green. If (((they))) can trick you into thinking that red and green is yellow, think of the other ways that (((they))) can trick you. Your brain and your senses deceive you. Nothing is EVER as it seems and appearances are ALWAYS deceptive! We owe it to our innate intelligence to QUESTION EVERYTHING and that INCLUDES EVERYTHING that I tell you! (end of part 10)

(start of part 11) The thing is this, you ask people "How do you know X?" and they'll probably reply by saying something like "Well, because it's in my science books." or "Well, because it's been peer-reviewed." or "Well, because it's been agreed upon by a majority of scientists.", but these are flimsy defences, because unless YOU can verify for yourself whether something is true or not either by OBSERVATION or by doing an experiment about it BY YOURSELF, you are relying essentially on external sources for your information and it is naïve to think that those sources don't have agendas.
What people call 'mainstream science' has been hijacked by politics, religion and corporations. So-called 'peer review' these days is usually nothing more than a circle-jerk. Just as people support the separation of church and state (and RIGHTFULLY so), I support the separation of SCIENCE and state. We owe it to our innate intelligence to QUESTION EVERYTHING and that INCLUDES EVERYTHING that I tell you! (end of part 11)

(start of part 12) Every planet, moon and star in the universe is hollow and expanding, this means that so-called 'gaseous planets' and stars actually have solid surfaces (even if their atmospheres are extremely thick). Moons become planets and planets become stars. Planets 'give birth' to moons and stars 'give birth' to planets. If the Sun were to 'give birth' to a new planet today (for example), that new planet would occupy Mercury's orbit, which would cause Mercury to occupy Venus's orbit, which would cause Venus to occupy Earth's orbit, which would cause Earth to occupy Mars's orbit and so on. (end of part 12)

(start of part 13) The ancient Vedic scriptures (especially the Puranas) declare that Earth is a hollow planet and that Vedic civilisation exists in the Inner Earth World (also known as 'Agartha'). The Norwegian man Jens Jansen and his son Olaf Jansen sailed into the Inner Earth World in 1829 and met very tall people there. Olaf wrote a book about all of this called 'The Smoky God' and said that the people there spoke a type of Sanskrit - this vindicates the ancient Vedic scriptures! You can read more about this here:

holloworbs.com/olaf_on_sanskrit.htm (end of part 13)

(start of part 14) The truest conception of the structure of Earth is based on the idea that when it was in a molten state during its formation, centrifugal force caused the heavier substances to be thrown outward, toward its periphery, in the form of rocks and metals, to form its outer crust, leaving its interior hollow, with openings at the poles, where centrifugal force was less and where there was less tendency to throw materials outward, which was greater at the equator, causing the bulging of Earth in this region. It has been estimated that as a result of Earth's rotation on its axis during its formative state, polar depressions and openings thus formed would measure about 1,400 miles in diameter.

Some of the original fire and incandescent materials remained in the center of Earth to form a central 'sun', much smaller, of course, than our Sun, but capable of emitting light and supporting plant growth. We shall also see that the Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis that illuminate the sky over the poles come from this central 'sun' whose rays shine through the polar openings. Thus, if Earth was originally a ball of fire and molten metal, some of this fire remained in its centre, while centrifugal force as a result of its rotation on its axis caused its solid matter to be thrown toward the surface, forming a solid crust and leaving its interior hollow, with a fiery ball in its centre, forming the central sun, which provides illumination for plant, animal and human life. (end)

>my models for a flat earth don't match observable physics
>what could possibly be wrong?!

"That's right goy, you shouldn't fulfill your cosmic birthright of expanding out into the universe because space isn't real! Stay on this ruined world forever! Good goy!"

>my models for a flat earth don't match observable physics
I don't have any models of my own, i use NASA's own mathematic measurements and simple geometry and basic physics (like centripetal force and buoyancy force). i simply modify them to encompass the mathematic values that are needed to "test" any flat earth theory. nice try

Some vague entries, siting on or above a cirlce = sphere? Giving weight to the winds means that they thought air had weight? Who and what was the science "then"? When was then?

Your part of the problem kid. Hollow earth is deliberate disinfo to make the fact that there are very large underground cavities occupied by intelligent species seem retarded.

>It cannot be denied that modern Copernican/Tysonian views of the universe are designed to make human beings feel small and meaningless

Why? It's not the fault of those views of the universe, but the fault of those who inexplicably correlate our comparative physical dimensions with our significance or lack of it. How about complexity, and the fact that human beings are the most complex things we are currently aware of in the universe?

Why are we so insecure that we don't feel at all special unless everything is literally revolving around us?

We didn't destroy the technology, we just stopped building it.

If you stop making a certain model of car for 40+ years, then try to build a new car of that exact model, it's going to be extremely difficult and expensive.

What do you expect a horizon curve to look like? If the horizon curves away from you in all directions, eventually it all looks like it "drops off." That's why images from space make Earth look like a circle: a two dimensional sphere is a circle.

considering that the stars literally move in perfect circles around Polaris (the north star), everything technically revolves around us

Really?
A couple of years ago, Jaguar built a couple of E-Types they forgot to manufacture 50 years ago.
They were built using original components and delivered at relatively little cost.

I'm not a part of any problem and I'm not a kid because I'm 29-years-old, you faggot. Exclusive Honeycomb Earth theory is deliberate disinfo. Hollow Earth is the truth. Earth is both honeycomb-like AND hollow. It doesn't have to be one or the other. It's both. Earth's crust is like Swiss cheese, with lots of vast holes all over the place with non-human entities living inside them. These holes are basically unique, enclosed ecosystems in and of themselves. Check out this page for more information about this if you know how to read:

holloworbs.com/cavern_worlds.htm

That's because the tilt affects how many hours of sunlight you get retard. Ever wonder why the days are shorter in the winter. Go back to school fag

yes, but this should be seen at ANY distance from the horizon or of altitude. the distance is said to be 8 inches per mile^2. if you're able to see 10 miles, there should be a fuckin noticeable curve to the ocean's horizon. The curve would be even clearer to see the higher up in altitude you go... but every video that isn't tied back to NASA shows a FLATLINE for the horizon... no curves

Brainlet doesn't understand that Von Braun felt complete and utter awe when beholding the infinite universe, and used the bible to help him express those feelings.

You understand that Oppenheimer wasn't Hindu when he quoted the Baghavad Gita, right? That it was just a convenient and poignant bit of scripture to help him describe his feelings?

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youtube.com/watch?v=UdllRQjxi0Y

>tfw African for 2 months of the year

>You understand that Oppenheimer wasn't Hindu when he quoted the Baghavad Gita, right?

Yes, but when he was asked if the supposedly first atomic bomb test was really the first atomic bomb test, he said "Yes, in the modern age.". The Mahabharata (an ancient Indian epic poem which contains the Bhagavad Gita) describes a war fought with weapons called 'astras'. The most powerful astra is the Brahmastra, which I have no doubt was/is a nuclear weapon. Brahmastras are nuclear weapons that are even more advanced than modern nuclear weapons, because the Mahabharata describes a Brahmastra that can 'lock on' to a specific target and then completely destroy ONLY that specific target but NOTHING that surrounds it. I think that such a weapon is today known as a 'phase weapon'. A Brahmastra was actually sent into the womb of a pregnant woman to kill the baby inside it, but the baby survived. There's even an astra that causes people to go to sleep. Not only that, but there are irradiated places in India, which suggests that astras might have been used in those locations. Also, there are ancient Indian writings that describe vimanas (which are flying vehicles) that use mercury as a fuel source and we know today that mercury is a legit fuel source.

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Nah, I'm not retarded.

The "flat line" you're talking about is the last "line" of ocean you can see before the curvature prevents you from seeing the rest.

>y'all

What are you some type of folksy nigger?

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>Genesis 1:20
>And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
The firmament is the atmosphere. There's no solid dome or anything like that.

I look at your first art project here, then at images of the Earth from actual cameras in space, and ask, do liberal arts majors get the best education for their money?

Get a real picture, study it. Not one you, yourself drew.

None of us, right now, can say with any confidence what the shape of the earth actually is. What we can say with confidence is that it is not shaped the way the kikes want us to think it is.

>The firmament is the atmosphere. There's no solid dome or anything like that.

You are correct and notice that it says 'OPEN FIRMAMENT'. It's open because it's the fucking atmosphere. The atmosphere is fucking open, it doesn't 'end' per se, it simply blends into outer space. And I don't adhere to any religion, but even the writers of the Bible knew that Earth is both round and hollow.

inb4 "Hurr, outer space doesn't exist! XD"

>if God is real
You're a deliberate fool.

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful. -Seneca the Younger (~4 B.C.E. - 65 C.E.)

Right. There's three places in the Bible called heaven. The first is where birds fly, the second is where the sun, moon and the stars are, and the third is where God lives.

I know you are just dicking around and mocking Flat Earthers, but honestly until we are allowed to explore Antartica ourselves, it could be any shape at this point.

The most important thing is to continue to question their narrative, and research with SCIENCE.

This is one of the only sensible posts in this thread besides my own posts, but I am so confident that Earth is hollow and that the kikes are hiding Earth's hollowness from the masses that I'd bet a hundred dollars on it being true.

Psst....hey Aussie. We already know the Earth is hollow, lad.

There is a hole at the center of Earth, what is known as "the north pole". It's been known for centuries, as a matter of fact, the old maps always left a hole at the center of the north pole for this reason.

So yes, it's hollow. And flat.

angles are important

the problem when people talk about flat earth and the firmament is they assume that the stars we see have to be part of some projection screen on the firmament, if there is one surrounding us, thus making there be no outer space. But this simply wouldn't be true. If the earth is flat and it has a dome, there is an "outside" of said dome. The outside of this dome could be other lands that are on the same plane-axis that our planet is on, or in different axis of movement. Just because we're supposedly "trapped" doesn't mean there's nothing out "there". We could be in a giant fuckin truman show with the entire outside world laughing at us for thinking this tiny patch of dirt is all that we can step foot on without machines to help us.

Yes and the Bible also says “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.”

This firmament is Earth's atmosphere, which exists INSIDE EARTH and also CONTINUES above Earth's outer surface. The line about dividing the waters from the waters refers to how the ocean we know about here on Earth's outer surface actually CONTINUES ON EARTH'S INNER SURFACE. The Bible describes a Hollow Earth, the Vedic literature of Ancient India describes a Hollow Earth, Chinese myths describe a Hollow Earth, Native American myths describe a Hollow Earth, etc.

god is real and universe physics and earth shape wont change that.

There's water in the sky, it's called clouds.

like i said in one of my earlier comments: i don't believe in anything related to what other people say they see. But if we are to ever definitively prove one model over the others, we must first come up with a consensus on what the other models would HAVE to operate on and what their physical observational details would have to be for each model: Geocentric, heliocentric, hollow-earth, etc

>There is a hole at the center of Earth, what is known as "the north pole". It's been known for centuries, as a matter of fact, the old maps always left a hole at the center of the north pole for this reason.

You are correct. There is also a hole at the South Pole, but apparently it's covered by ice. This means that Earth is torus-shaped.

>So yes, it's hollow.

Yup.

>And flat.

Nope.

it makes more sense than 'the official narrative' All forces of nature are toroidal in shape.

You do know there's other verses in the bible describing stars & the heavens....
The firmament is a very specific word referring to the dome around earth and all the heavens... see Strongs correspondence, von Braun didn't pick this verse for no reason, he knew the truth and put it in plain sight so anyone could see it, but no one would think anything suspicious about it

both flat earth and ball earth are true.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Lad, the Earth is flat and hollow.

The ancients called this empty hollowness "Sheol". There are caves under Earth, hollow places.

By the way, there is also hell underneath our Earth. That is why, in the bible, those who are sent to hell are suffering with eternal fire and torment. That's why there's lava.

You know, the hollow theory works best with a flat Earth, not a round one.

>All forces of nature are toroidal in shape.

Yes. Tornadoes are toroidal in shape, hurricanes are toroidal in shape, whirlwinds are toroidal in shape, galaxies are toroidal in shape, etc. So it only makes sense that planets (including Earth) would also be toroidal in shape (which means that they'd be hollow).

>Lad, the Earth is flat

I'm not convinced about that.

>hollow

But I'm fucking convinced about this.