Whatever this form actually is, from the looks of things Toriyama (or Toyotaro) based this form on Huǒyǎn-jīnjīng (火眼金睛)/” "fiery-eyes golden-gaze" from Journey to the West (A form that Son Wukong uses, who was the basis for Goku's character)The Houyan Jinjing was a form that covered Wukongs eyes in stinging smoke, but allowed him to see every kind of evil, no matter how hidden.This is a HUGE connection to the poster that said "the work of the gods ends here!" because, as most people have already realised (including Goku according to the poster) the Grand Priest (or Zeno) is likely evil, and so is the whole Godly system. All they do is take away and destroy. If that isn't evil then Idk what is. Gohan already realised this, but Goku will likely realise this too, leading to this new form (which explains the poster)And remember, Wukongs eyes become shrouded in SMOKE. What colour is smoke?? Dark grey. The only thing that changes about Goku's appearance in this form? His smokey grey eyes.
Tl;dr:Goku's new form is based on Journey to the West, when the main character Sun Wukong can cover fill his eyes with smoke that allows him to see hidden evil.
>Tl;dr:Goku's new form is based on Journey to the West
If that is true then Goku is basically screwed, Sun Wukong got defeated by the Buddha for bothering the Gods.
Cameron Butler
That is why his son is around to continue his father's legacy.
Adrian Thomas
But last time they tried that everyone cried until Toriyama went back to Goku.
Liam Kelly
Sun also kicked most of the gods' asses though. And was like four different kinds of immortal.
Ayden Ward
Doesn't really change the fact that they'er just adding more pointless transformation to wow brainlets instead of actually trying to make the show exciting and invest the audience in the plot.
Gavin Jenkins
I wish we had more proper JttW manga instead of this teasing.
Pic related, v2 scans never, finished never.
Austin Butler
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.
Justin Harris
Goku's hair in his new form triggers me. It looks like Goku's hair right before he always turns SSJ but just stops and is stuck looking like that. It's cool that he's as jacked as he was when he first turned SSJ though, but honestly this minimalist bullshit in these new forums are shit.
Alexander Baker
Is Goku going to fight Grand Priest by absorbing a multiuniversal Sprit Bomb after wishing them all back?
James Parker
I agree I am not a fan of the hair either. Either just let him have his normal hair or just his ssj hair but black.
Charles Peterson
Who is the buddha then? gohan?
Nathaniel Thompson
I actually wonder at this point whether Goku's base hair or SSJ hair is more iconic. Which hair are people on the street more likely to associate with Goku or DB.
Brayden Fisher
I'd say his Super Saiyan hair. He has it in almost every cover or poster for DB related shit.
Adam Miller
Super Saiyan Black
>I've come to end your tyranny Zeno. The universes will no longer subject to you whims
Mason Hughes
If I had to take a gues probably ssj since it is always that or kanehame that gets referenced or parodied, but I also wouldn't be suprised if his normal hair is more iconic in nipland and ssj more iconic in the west
Ian Taylor
Maybe Jiren?
Camden Harris
Zeno?
Jonathan Butler
Probably the grand priest if zenos are the gods
Charles Jenkins
>The manga makes it clear that Beerus would stomp every U7 mortal in a serious fight >Vegetafags are mad that he jobbed to Beerus
Sebastian Morales
>The Houyan Jinjing was a form that covered Wukongs eyes in stinging smoke
Wrong
Wukong got his eyes from eating the God's medicine balls / Dans. And Wukong's eyes are gold, not Silver so your point is moot
There is no such shit as "shrouded in smoke" eyes. You literally pulled it out of your ass
Source : I am Asian
Owen King
To be more specific
Wukong ate God's Dans ---> iot imprisoned inside a furnace --->Broke out after 49 days still alive because Wukong --->Eyes are golden now, symbolizing the flame that burnt his body and soul
There is no fucking where it mentioned your smoke shit. Kill your fucking self
Isaiah Allen
you are a cuck
Dylan Barnes
That's not a new form that's just goku powering up. I hate this autism. Better not be true.
Juan Brown
You need to calm down
Aaron Hill
Leave the shitverse to me.
Bentley Bell
>four different kinds of immortal I know he's ridiculously hard to destroy, being literally a stone monkey. And the peaches. Can't remember what any other was, other than his canonization at the end of the journey.
Thank you Based Toyo for not leaving out of your Super manga any plot points in Toriyama-sensei's napkin notes. Toei's flanderized Goku now confirmed even worse given the way how the shitanime skipped the part about Goku being a terrible father and therefore lost on the opportunity to validate all the "Piccolo was Gohan's actual parental figure" nigger fanspiction that is now more current than ever.
Grayson Reyes
Well, there's:
>Stone monkey near invulnerability >Erased name from book of Life and Death >Peaches of Immortality >Pills of Longevity
And then at the end his reward of Buddhahood.
Xavier Walker
Forgot about the pills and book. He'd be a terrifying final boss.
Kayden Scott
So he's practically made himself 4 types of immortal? How the fuck and why the fuck would he do this?
Isaiah Anderson
Something something japan birth decline
Hudson Nguyen
>How the fuck and why the fuck would he do this? Being born that way, and seeking better immortality. Better than whiny emo "oh what will kill my eternally young body?" vampirefags.
Jayden Roberts
Probably Buddha.
Logan Fisher
>twitards having a meltdown over an ancient plotline
Noah Ortiz
So was Goku really raped by Chichi? Or does he not know how babies are made or something?
Anthony Brown
older pan when?
Wyatt Morgan
Never.
Charles Nguyen
His normal hair. Its more unique looking, and Goku's personality shines through more if you know what I mean.
Julian Price
She's fine the way she is.
Charles Gray
>validate all the "Piccolo was Gohan's actual parental figure" nigger fanspiction that is now more current than ever.
You faggots are pathetic. If you asked Toriyama straight up who's more of a father to Gohan, he'd probably say Piccolo too.
>But muh TFS reddit memes
Fuck off, they were spot on with their jokes, and I think they're unfunny.
Evan Davis
guarantee goku won't get stomped
Parker Butler
Stone monkey invulnerability is more like super endurance. Wukong could still die from a strong enough attack and from old age. After seeing many of his more normal monkey friends due of old age, he was so depressed that he went and erased his name from Chinese reverse-Death Note.
Jayden Gutierrez
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Robert Morales
here
Caleb Rodriguez
Decent theory. But you're forgetting one crucial element of Goku's character. What does he care about seeing the evil within people/gods? What does he care about the Godly system being corrupt?
Tyler Lee
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William Adams
Why does Goku fight to begin with? We must first understand his relationship with his mother.
Cameron Barnes
Vegeta got surpassed again
Jaxon Sanchez
Fuck off, Sigmund.
Christian Watson
Keeping Bulla and Pan as babies for Super will be a mistake. There needs to be an episode where they manage to get locked in the room of space and time for a couple weeks and come out as JCs
Jack Watson
autism
Jack Roberts
No.
Hunter Richardson
Tell that to my dick
Noah Martinez
I like all of these.
Nolan Diaz
They're sexy enough as is.
Joshua Russell
Abandoned as a child Goku never knew his parents nor his mother in particular. Is he fighting to reclaim some kind of lost affection hoping to find it in others he protects? We may never know Toriyama is kind of hazy on the subject. His only paternal father figure he had was a perverted old man. His only mother figure in his life is Chi-Chi an overly protective mother. How did this relationship happen? How did they conceive children if Goku isn't even conscious of the action of consummation?
Christopher Robinson
...
Owen Gray
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Aiden Sullivan
You forgot Grandpa Goku.
Jack Jenkins
Goten makes sense because he was dead, but I don't understand the Gohan part.
Carter Hall
>but I don't understand the Gohan part Chi-Chi raped Goku and didn't understand why she was getting fatter, so he kept training through Gohan's birth
Andrew Watson
Doesn't that happen at the very end? Does this mean the same for Super?
>Black never got Super Saiyan Black >But Goku somehow got it ?????
Parker Rogers
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Leo Green
Damn it. I wish he'd act like half the chad that other Gohanfags say he is. I can't shake this feeling that he might pull a Krillin, let his guard down, and go down in an undignified manner.
Evan Cooper
Will we ever witness an anime fight as intelligent as Gohan vs Botamo?
Nicholas Lewis
So, what's the difference between Pseudo Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan Power and Limit Breaking Super Saiyan?
Luis Mitchell
>not super buu >not frieza
Grayson Stewart
Thoughts?
Carson Green
I want Botamo for Xenoverse 3
Austin Miller
Sorry, they aren't best villains.
Daniel Richardson
only toei's goku is bad
Michael Campbell
NO. Goku is evil.
Leo King
>Goku >evil Pick one
Christian Wood
If Saiyans had sanddigger culture, do you think they would be into tail amputation so women wouldn't be able to pleasure themselves?
Aiden Hughes
But that doesn't make sense. He was still alive when Gohan was born. How does he not know? None of this makes sense. 'What's a kiss?' That doesn't make sense, you senile old fuck. Is this Toriyama's 'gag' humor coming back?
Nathaniel Nelson
I hope xenozerse 3 doesn't happen.
William Morgan
>SSJ-style hair but the color remains black
10/10, Toriyama does it again! Master of originality!
Elijah Taylor
>implying a saiyan tail has anything to do with that Look, if you're going to make jokes about muzzies and sandniggers, at least know what the fuck your tailing about.
Ian Butler
user probably misread the Wikipedia article that says the huoyan jinjing gives him a weakness to smoke.
>Sun Wukong is now able to recognize evil with huǒyǎn-jīnjīng (火眼金睛) (lit. "golden-gaze fiery-eyes"), an eye condition that also gives him a weakness to smoke, and proceeds to destroy the crucible, following Heaven's remaining forces
Hudson Foster
t. bejetasama
Anthony Watson
He left his fat wife to go train somewhere else for months.
Levi Rodriguez
that one's on toyo since it wasn't in the anime
Ian Fisher
>those digits
Ryder Bennett
This is why people shouldn't use wikipedia for anything.
Caleb Cox
Toriyama did nothing wrong!
Nathan Cook
>gets dropped on head as baby >"wtf why is goku stupid?????" Are you people newfags or do you have alzhimers?
James Clark
Kill their dreams, Toyotaco, kill them all! (raughs)
Jaxson Thomas
Goku not knowing what is a kiss is understandable, since Chichi could just be the non-romantic type. But not knowing about Gohan's birth is just bizarre.
Noah Turner
If Toriyama napkin scribbled it, then it would be in the anime as well.
This is just toyopedro getting completely out of hand with his fanfiction.
Jackson Price
Why not? OC character autism aside, I find the gameplay fun enough. Obviously it's unbalanced and nothing compared to a real fighter mechanically, but there was a big improvement going from XV to XV2. If they improve that much for xv3 on top of more customization options and characters I see no problem with it.
Benjamin Nguyen
Because they suck.
Carter Peterson
Probably more masturbatory material for Vegeta fanfags, that Toriyama asked Toyo to add, since Toriyama seemingly goes above and beyond to shit on Goku whenever the chance presents itself; due to how Toei made Goku such a 'nice role-model' in the anime, to the point Japanese fans idolize him.
Any opportunity to throw Goku under the bus Toriyama will take it (see, every single DB/Z/GT/Super-related interview where the interviewer mentions something positive about Son Goku or Dragon Ball, as a whole), just to keep reminding the audience that Goku isn't a good person, who's mentally, physically, emotionally and psychologically unable to grow/mature, unlike Vegeta who's a credit to the Saiyan race, since he's able to show genuine love and emotion, as a higher-class Saiyan.
At this point it's just sad, because Toriyama for all his bitching about Goku, went out of his way to add a shitload of out-of-character scenes to the Dragon Ball manga, both before decided to make Goku an alien and plenty afterwards.
Joseph Mitchell
Hi Vegeta.
Adam Watson
I'm a Vegeta fan and I'm not mad at him jobbing, I'm happy he is on the level with Goku, his jobbing actually means something unlike the rest of the jobbers.
Brandon Davis
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Levi Hall
Goku still has a good moral sense of right and wrong, it's just that fighting is his priority in life
Easton Bailey
>give Gohan an okay chance to demonstrate intellect
>like say by lifting Botamo up using the small of Botamo's back, because his stubby arms and legs can't reach and he can't aim there with mouth blasts
>or taunt constantly, really just chad it the fuck up by doing nothing but taunt and dodge, drawing Botamo to near the edge, then Solar Flare and push him off
>or by working out how Botamo's invincibility operates and exploiting it's weakness, maybe pushing Botamo's mouth blasts back into his mouth like vs Buu
