Fate

I have won this war now that I have summoned a servant from the strongest class.

Sumanai.

Sumanai.

Why are you sorry I summoned the best class, I can't lose

Sumanai

Sumanai.

Sumanai, OP

>Your servant kill himself to prolong mysterious homunculus life

Sumanai

Sumanai.

>when nasu forces you to introduce a retarded character to shit up your novel

I feel bad for Karna and the Greek heroes, they were legit good characters stuck in the shit fest that was F/A.

Redman can trace Brynhildr's spear. Sumanai loses

Sumanai

>forces

Nasu just suggested that he introduced a MC to the story. Not his fault than Higashide can't write for shit.

At least Karna got his big break in Extra, and even got his own route in Extella.

Most of the others will forever be tainted by association, unless GO of all things lets Achilles do something cool.

TM will not let stronger saber appear than King Arthur. Everyone gets weaker than her. Siegfried died for homunculus because of Higashide. I wanted to see his success. Frankenstein is also so.

king arthur is weak as shit and gets beaten by everyone though

Since the original specs are different, I think that Siegfried will not be defeated.

Her sword is set to be strongest. No one can win against her. She is loved by TM.

Basically he will not be defeated. However, Carna and Gilgamesque, Achilles' strongest opponent will not win.

Someone post the pic where Kuzuki is choking the fuck out of her. Or when herc slashed her stomach.

>cucked by gil
>cucked by every lancer (somehow)
>cucked by caster every time
>cucked by an actual human
>cucked by berserker

great heroic spirit you got there

There is something I always wondered, why is Servant considered the "best class".

Most Sabers have pretty straight simple NP, while everyone else has really elaborated things. Its a stat thing?

stats are high but they're just useless jobbers

then again, fate is written so that almost everyone gets hyped up but is just a useless jobber

Higashide makes heroes weaker. Siegfried and Karna are invulnerable, but not with Fate.

siegfried wasn't that invulnerable

I just want Achilles to have an interlude with his angry loli waifu.

Everyone insists that their favorite is strong and says weak characters are weak.

wrong, i think every character is weak, especially the ones i like

In Der Nibelungenlied he is invulnerable except for his weak spots.

Sorr.
Not everyone, but a lot of people.

Because Sabers won the most HGWs. And any class can have servants with good stats.

>except for his weak spots

that's exactly what i am referring to, if you have vulnerabilities you are by very definition not invulnerable

What I'd like to say is that the fact that attacks do not pass through except for his back is changed in Fate. I do not want to talk about the definition of invulnerability. However, Siegfried is actually called an invincible hero.

right but he got killed, so he's de facto very vincible

That's because he attacked his weak point, so he will die. Even Achilles was attacked by the heel and died.

yeah, and achilles isn't invincible either, they both get instantly killed by being struck in non vital areas

But Achilles is also called an immortal hero. Let's stop this topic anymore. I am tired from each other.

>immortal
>dies

really makes you think

Didn't Nasu say that Gil is the strongest and bestest Servant for being the oldest hero?

I am tired from discussion.
Fate series fans have energy.

There is a hero older than him in reality history. But in Nasuverse he is the oldest and is strongest except God.

who? as far as i know the epic is the earliest big thing that we still know about

Probably some cavemen

do heroes that are lost to history really count? and those would only be known to a few people due to the nature of early human society so they'd be weak

Arjuna and Karna think that the stage of the story is older than Gil.

Are they ever gonna give us news on when Heaven's Feel will come to theaters in the west, or am I just bad at looking this shit up?

So what about King Richard the chuuni, the guy who can turn sticks into Excalibur?

Aniplex hasn't announced anything, but maybe they'll bring it out a month or two like they did with Kizu

They are basically a generalist class, without any glaring weaknesses, so they should be able to go toe to toe with any servant they face.

As one of the knight classes, they have an extra fuck you to Casters by having high Magic Resistance, while being more versatile than the glass cannon lancer and archers.

>Excalibur
>strongest
Isn't the strongest actually Excalibur Proto with all of its seals released?

I'm pretty sure there's a damn good reasom Proto Arthur is the guy travelling between timelines saving em, not Artoria.
He was also most probably the guy that saved Extra-verse from Altera as well

How strong is proto-Excalibur tho? As Strong as EA? I mean he did overpower Proto-EA with just four seals

In FGO Proto Excalibur apparently reaches anti-fortress levels with just half of its seals gone.
Proto Ea is probably just that shit if its countered by Proto Excalibur with 4 seals released.

Wait doesn't Proto Excalibur always have 6 seals always released and the other six are only released in special conditions, like is the enemy stronger than Arthur bla bla bla. What I meant by 4 seals is that Arthur unlocked 4 out of the special condition seals that allowed him to BTFO proto-Gil

>Achilles' dad wanted him to be part mortal
FUCK YOU DAD. I would be so salty if he was my father and I was an inch away from true immortality.

It kind of annoys me that people like Saber or Gil hae the most shitty NP but they are op anyway.

Everyone has things that tergiverses the laws of casuality or tears the fabric of reality, but those job in front of a giant beam or a rain of swords.

One servant uses an arrow that shoots the very concept of self and the other counters with a breach of reality.

But when Saber uses her beam of light or Gil his sword rain everyone just sits there waiting to be hit.

Ea can fuck with the fabric of reality though.

But then he couldn't qualify for the grail wars anymore

It probably beats being a Greek Hero Prince over living as some lower God on Olympos. The Greek Pantheon is filled with some of the most dickish people in mythology, fuck living with them. You'll be there a week tops before Zeus fucks your girlfriend and Hera turns her into a sardine as punishment.

That's not Cu Chuulain.

At least he's the strongest in F/GO being nigh unkillable for once

Nasu just has a thing for his aryan self inserts.

cu best boy