Homosexuality isn't natural

>homosexuality isn't natural

Other urls found in this thread:

blog.nationalgeographic.org/2012/10/09/rare-maned-lionesses-explained/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

So is infanticide, cannibalism and genocide. I suggest doing the latter with all natural appealists.

Animals also have diseases

Otherwise known as: Animals can also be mentally ill. Still doesn't make it natural.

My dog is dying of dementia for God's sake.

>My dog is dying of dementia for God's sake.
Better than getting eaten by Horis.

> Implying natural = happens in the wild
Read a book, nigger

Appeal to nature fallacy. Homosexuality occurs in the animal kingdom but it's an aberration, not the status quo.

>Still doesn't make it natural.
What is your definition of natural then? If it appears in the nature I'd say that it is natural.

he's just asserting his dominance

just put down my little guy last week, he had dementia/arthritis/cancers

v sad indeed

have a hug nz bro

Animals don't have the higher consciousness to be mentally ill. And dementia isn't a mental illlness, it is an organic degenerative brain disease. Typical moronic thinking from a kiwi.

Not every nutt bust results in a child, who cares if you have a little procreation with a smooth, bubble butt twink from time to time

That's the definition of natural dumbass

>implying natural = status quo

projection of values onto the natural world

Insemination by tearing open a hole in the abdomen and letting the lymph carry the semen is appears in nature, most consider that unnatural in animals.

What he means is normal, abnormal behaviour can be tolerated but there is nothing gained (as a species) from it.

i'd call you mentally ill but you dont possess the consciousness necessary

He's actually right. There is literally no reason for an animal (or for a human) to commit the act of sodomy since it serves no purpose

True that.
you're a top bloke and a good pet owner. Fist pump.

that's just a bro hug.

The Religious Right were always exceedingly fucking retarded, weren't they?

Resorting to baseless insults within a few posts. Pricesless

it isn't lions are either straight or bisexual, not homosexual.

>implying we need a purpose to do anything

my pic is hotter than your pic

Wrong, faggot. Stop projecting your modernist definitions upon classical philosophical terms. That which is natural is what is conducive to the surviving and thriving of the being in question, hence what is natural to any given being is determined by its nature. It is natural for plants to take in sunlight, oxygen and water, but it is unnatural for a human to attempt to survive on only that.

Errors exist. Nature corrects them eventually.

natural is actually a very difficult definition
we are a product of nature so everything we do is natural

Poison ivy is natural should we be using that because it is natural. If you can't think beyond what is natural we wouldn't have half the things we have today. Take your archaic ideals elsewhere

ONE OF THOSE IS A LIONESSES
RARE TRIBE OF LIONS IN BOTSWANA

Look up the Moremi Game Reserve maned female lions

stupid faggot propaganda
blog.nationalgeographic.org/2012/10/09/rare-maned-lionesses-explained/

>eating your children isn't natural

So why does homosexuality persist within society if less homosexuals are having babies?

Because they take advantage of confused young boys and make them think that they're homosexuals

FAKE NEWS

...

natural =/= good
cancer is natural as well, but I don't want it

>Implying faggots don't need gay faggoty asspirate anal sex to survive and thrive psychologically and sexually?
>Implying gay faggoty asspirate anal sex isn't a natural expression of a faggot's being?

>implying there is anything wrong with that

We aren't discussing the morality of homosexuality, we are discussing the if is natural which it is

if anything the fake news would be supporting homo-lions

if femal lions can develop manes white cant femal humans develop penises?????????

This is the fakest fake news I've seen

A lot of black men have sex with each other, and they are literally not gay, as retarded as that sounds to a normal white person -- They just want a hole, and their standards are nonexistent.

female humans can develop androgenic body hair patterns user

Oh Eurofool, cancer is a genetic mutation, it therefore unnatural

If it's natural then what is its place in the natural order? You admitted it has no purpose. It is nothing more than a corruption of the sexual act, much like masturbation

unrelated to my question

What one male lion can't crack another male lion's back without being called gay? OP is a homophobe.

Why do you want spikey lion penises to shed up lion rectrums?

damn u right

Animals can't consent. This is rape.

>genetic mutations are not natural
>what is evolution

Alpha-beta bonding, naturally.

>what is gay super uncle theory

Read a book. Do they even have books in Canada?

That fucking faggot likes it too. What an animal

>implying rape is unnatural or even wrong in the animal kingdom

...

your question is stupid as fuck desu, man

"why can't female humans develop penises if female lions are able to develop manes"

Are you unable to perceive the difference between reproductive organs and secondary sex features like body hair?

>cannibalism isn't natural
>killing isn't natural

This is BS so explain how this is actually bonding in your view

If by gay super uncle you mean older gays targeting underage boys to recruit them into thinking that their sexuality can be oriented towards the act of sodomy (there is no such thing as a homosexual) then that's true.

>implying mutation is normal or natural in evolution

Act the fool user

>books in Canada

Done with you. Sorry you cant comprehend logical thinking

Just because one lion fucks another lion up the ass doesn't mean all lions are gay, you fucking degenerate.

they aren't

plus lion cocks would damage the rectum

Did I say that? Nope. Try again, this time think before you post

>he practices sodomy in a rejection of the logical natural order of the universe
>he claims I'm the one who is illogical

Notice it's in English

Yeah, and dogs eat their shit regularly too. You're fucking worthless, OP.

Claims of what is "natural" have NEVER been about if something appears in nature. Only the ignorant crowd that prop this specific argument understand it like that

This is a Sup Forums tier thread. Reported.

>An estimated one-quarter of all black swans pairings are of homosexual males. They steal nests, or form temporary threesomes with females to obtain eggs, driving away the female after she lays the eggs.[44][45] More of their cygnets survive to adulthood than those of different-sex pairs, possibly due to their superior ability to defend large portions of land.

Perhaps it's conducive to the preservation of established sexual hierarchies, i.e. the sexual domination of betas by alphas is a natural expression of power and status kek?

I'm merely speculating, I'm not a zoologist or an ethologist by any means.

>Insemination by tearing open a hole in the abdomen and letting the lymph carry the semen is appears in nature, most consider that unnatural in animals.
[who?]

The real thing is that gays do not need to justify their feelings and desires to the subhuman virgins on Sup Forums: ugly, worthless perma-virgins who complain about other people not reproducing seething at cock-sucking in order to feel morally superior. You may not have accomplished anything in your life but at least you ain't no queer!!


#NotallLions

>I'm merely speculating, I'm not a zoologist or an ethologist by any means.

This is what I said, you're making up BS because you have nothing

Some animals, like bonobos, incorporate explicit sexual interaction as part of their socialisation, improving group bonds, defusing conflict and that sort of shit. Sure muh degeneracy but that's simply a human value. Homosexual behaviour, alongside other non-reproductive sexual behaviours, can be conducive to evolutionary fitness.

READ THROUGH THE THREAD NIGGERS
Every new post is assuming this picture is a homo lion

They're are a tribe of lions where the females grow manes.
blog.nationalgeographic.org/2012/10/09/rare-maned-lionesses-explained/

Nobody is saying its not natural. Thats only an issue if your objections to it are religious. If homosexuality just occurs like that, why did God create it?
However if your objections are secular, and have to do with culture, civilization, order, etc, then this doesnt matter. Many natural things are not welcome in civilization, like abandoning the sick and old to conserve resources. Many unnatural things are cornerstones of civilization, like willful abstinence.

Basically the "homosexuality is natural" argument only works against the religious, and despite the vocal christians here, most of Sup Forums's "political theory" isn't religious.

women animals just try and eat the men after the use them all the time. theyre brown and dont understand male lion loyalty and true love. why dont female lions have manes? because theyre boring and shitty. female lions can do all the boring shit badly. like hunting food for us while the males kill the cuck cubs

Give the cunts a break they have to live in Africa ffs, its no wonder those lions are a bit fucked in the head.

Good post. The natural stuff is more to do with what Christians term "natural law" (see: Aquinas), the concept of an innate human morality separate from revealed moral codes from revelation, than the dispassionate observation of nature. The fact that, under scientific analysis, we observe "laws of nature" confuses the issue for laymen.

The thing with animals is, they have low intelligence.

They don't think about things deeply, they sense only what is known, they can't think outside of the box. There is no abstraction or conceptual ideas.

When they feel hunger, they find food.
When they feel tired, they rest
When they feel horny, they fuck

That is not homosexuality, that is just a stupid creature acting on instinct, and they are incapable of being better than their instinct, because they can't sense the imagined.

Bedbugs.

>They don't think about things deeply, they sense only what is known, they can't think outside of the box. There is no abstraction or conceptual ideas.
Even some insects display complex problem-solving behaviour + delayed gratification.

I meant who calls it unnatural

Natural means instinctual provided that the animal is healthy. Also it depends on the species so homo lions wouldn't mean much for humans. Moreover he is probably just asserting his dominance and not really gay.

Don't compare lions to niggers. lions are bros.

The Judge I got for my trial.

>a male having sex with another male is not gay
The delusion of you guys is unbelievable.

> Shred up your anus
> Sticking your dick in poo
> STDs galore
Yep, really conducive to survival and flourishing when you've got HIV/AIDs, dumbass.
> Missing the point so completely
Read my post again until it sticks, dumbass. Natural != Found in the wild

>"Homosexuality has been a part of European societies and culture for millennia. It's not going away, not something to get worked up about."

>"Also, homosexuality seems to be a kind of last stand of implicit White identity."

"Gayness" is a 20th century metric.
In Christian times, both the man who fucked other men in their asses and the man who fucked his wife in the ass were sodomites, but a man simply attracted to other men who didn't act on it wasn't.
In antiquity, a man who stuck his dick in other men had no detriment to his pride, but a man who was penetrated was "effeminate".

Just a question, how many 'sodomites' who fucked their wife in the ass were burned by the inquisition? Because the spanish inquisition burned alive quite a few sodomites of the other kind.

Behaviours we find in nature aren't necessarily healthy, and what is healthy depends on the species. There are also plenty of sub-optimal behaviours in nature that still persisted for one reason or another.

The issue with homosexuality is that it takes a self-gratificating practice and turns it into a lifestyle, which encourages hedonism, propagates STD's and help destroying solid societal structures. It also prevents the species from reproducing. That and the STD's are the main reasons why it's been such a strong taboo for so long. It's a self-harming behaviour and it's unhealthy as a lifestyle.

I don't know cunt. But look up what sodomy means in any pre-20th century legal code. People like Marquis de Sade faced serious consequences for the charge of violating a woman's behind, moreso than any of his kinky whipping shit. Oral sex was sometimes included in this definition too. Sorry user, looks like you're a filthy sodomite like the rest of us.

>since it serves no purpose

Sexual gratification. In apes, it's a way to deal with social tensions. It's also pretty masturbatory.

It doesn't serve any relevant evolutionary purpose, though.

Oh i know that anal sex wasn't seen as a great thing. The catholic church still deems any sort of sex that isin't for reproduction as sinful.

What i'm questioning here is that anal sex with a woman was on the same levels of taboo as homosexuality. Which is of course a retarded assumption.

If you want to distinguish the two to avoid confusing brainlets just call it what is essential rather than what is natural.

The essential characteristic of biology is reproduction...

There's no getting around this, everything else is just mental gymnastics/illness to try to justify sexual attraction that doesn't yield offspring.

Homosexuality spawns from trauma and mental illness. Plain and simple. It's much more than unnatural.

It's not quite a retarded assumption, and it's not an assumption I made. I said that they fell under the same definition of sin and the same crime in the legal code.

Also you have to take into account we're talking about a 1000 year span of an entire continent. Attitudes vary over place and time. Sometimes homosexual acts were considered equivalent to fornication or infidelity, with clergy giving roughly the same types of penances, other times they were considered uniquely depraved and abominable.

animals (male on male) fuck others for dominance, not for pleasure

So if a woman isn't able to reproduce then what?

You've played yourself sir