Why do some people support legalising cannabis when it has been shown to cause brain damage and congenital damage? Is it because of media brain washing?
Why do some people support legalising cannabis when it has been shown to cause brain damage and congenital damage...
Funny thing here is you can say that and I can say "it has been proven that does some benefits for health, while causing 0 long term side effects" but it's just words... Until you get the investigations you call, and so do I... Then again it's just some other people's words against... More words. Use in life what you like and what you feel it makes you happy. I will, regardless of what people think of it.
You got any sources for that?
Alright I'll dig some sources although this is already an accepted fact.
Yeah I'm a psychologist I did research a lot about... Everything humans do, heh. But as I said, the problem is that there are and certainly will be more investigations about it that'll say that they have proven some effect and the absence of some other... But it's just based off little groups of people (in comparison to the billions of people actually living) and being studied by a much more smaller group of people who wants to prove what they believe... It's difficult even for science to be objective. But... My thoughts: anything can kill you or make you happy, it's just stuff that exists and things that happen, too much of anything is bad (death being the final idea beneath the concept of "bad" for living forms) and a complete ascetic life, no diversity could be just as bad.
It hasn’t. I know this is just a slide thread and all.
The other way is an accepted fact too... For some people, as anything, just opinions and beliefs. Facts do not exist, except that statement... Funny ain't it?
>it has been shown
Published and peer reviewed sources please.
People support legalizing cannabis, and other drugs for that matter, because want the right to be able to put into their own bodies whatever they please. There's plenty of other legal drugs that are also harmful, like alcohol for exmaple.
I don't smoke anything much less cannabis, but I do way more damage to my body with alcohol consumption, and I still support legalization of drugs, of all drugs even class A, and especailly removing prescription requirements for things like painkillers.
These articles can be found on quick google inquiry:
Cannabis on pregnancy: The effects of prenatal cannabis exposure on fetal...
Cannabis on brain: Long-term effects of cannabis on the brain.
Cannabis on tstosterone: Marijuana use and serum testosterone concentration.
For how easy it is and how common it is to do here, I don't think you should have a criminal record for it that'll hinder your chances of getting a job once you graduate high school, or post secondary.
Studies on cannabis consistently show that it has harmfull effects with some outliers. It's very safe to say that that is the truth.
Like the articles that state the opposite basic ideas. Look it up. Check the other side.
Not only does it cause cognitive damages but it also reeks havoc on your mental health. Even one session of smoking and getting a marijuana induced panic attack can give you serious after effects which are anxiety and afraid of getting other panic attacks which then lead to getting more panic attacks. Weed literally fucks up the part of the brain that controls fear and emotions and weed definitely does put the amygdala out of wack by smoking that shit.
Just because you can't die from weed doesn't mean it can't destroy you.
So if I smoke enough weed, can I go insane?
Because I'd really like to go insane.
Alright, I am open to new ideas.
I know what real studies say, as I said as a psychologist it's what I do. Nice trying to make people argue ands stuff, still I won't react any way you want me to, except if you want me to express my opinion and spread what I know.
It depends on your predispostion to go insane
These effects are somehow damaging?
Link the studies finn Bro
Inb4 gassing monkeys
Even if it killed you in an instant I'd support legalising it.
Already found in this thread.
Please do share the studies which show results to the contrary beacause everything I'm able to find supports my view.
Update your infographic.
Cannabis affects a weed junkie's depth perception.
Feel free to Google that one, (it's the basis of driving bans and drug testing of drivers)
>Because I'd really like to go insane.
Yeah me too, but like the Indian says you have to be unstable already. I'm too sound minded, as is my entire family. I want a different mindset where I stop caring about anything at all.
I have none. Strong minds run in my family. No matter how fucked up shit gets, I can't deviate from reality. I can't even properly consider suicide.
I can't go insane.
But fuck me, it'd sure make things easier if I could.
Cannabis doesn't cause physical brain cell death, but the idea that such a powerful psychoactive drug doesn't have negative short and long term effects on behavior and mental health is absurd.
But do you want to live in a country full of effeminate brainlets, aka. soyboys?
Exactly.
> weed makes paranoid people more paranoid
congrats
> weed does not make non paranoid people more paranoid
i figured out your problem
Apparently the mechanism through which it works is that it damages the pathways between nerves.
By the way nice picture. I do use marihuana to decrease my left eye's intraocular pressure. Got glaucoma from a robber that smacked my face and caused me a macular hole in the retina. Helps a lot for the pain management.
There is an about 10 % chance that you'll become psychotic due to weed.
Why do you wanna go insane, you can go insane for some time if that's your thing
The grey matter study you did not link concludes that very high quantities of canabis use cause grey matter go decrease and prolonged usage does not have the same effect.
I'll read the other studies you did not link and get back to you on time
>the idea that such a powerful psychoactive drug doesn't have negative short and long term effects on behavior and mental health is absurd.
That depends on the frequency of use.
Stoners learn to be complacent and apathetic. But once they get off it, they get hit with anxiety, depression, and whatnot after a week. That's the head waking up in a cold room after sleeping under warm blankets.
cite sources faggot
Thank you my indian friend. I thought the stuff was so well known that I wouldn't have to link the studies.
>Why do you wanna go insane, you can go insane for some time if that's your thing
Reasons, but generally it can get you through horrifying situations without suffering. The mind just goes to another place and stays there, talking to the Asian reptilians and the sky dragons and shit.
And currently, I'm facing a long term horrifying situation. There's nothing I can do about it, and I'd like to have some rest.
That's the serotonergic and dopaminergic systems no longer being flooded with an agonist and rebounding below baseline levels. Throw in existential dread that has been dutifully ignored and you have depression and anxiety. A majority of heavy users just get a little bummed out because they are still functional, if the study I read was valid.
Have you tried psychedelic, although if the situation is quite tough i wouldn't resort to psychedelic as a made up reality is a very strong temptation
>I'm qualified to asses and review scientific studies.
Then you already know the facts faggot, stop pretending to be naive.
Cannabis affects depth perception. Cannabis is not side-effect free. Get the fuck over it.
Fuck off, like any mongtier channer is gonna go through a fucking research paper, just assume its true or dont, fuck sakee
Fake and gay.
Government has made it illegal to study cannibus. No studies exist.
psychologist, checked flag. Really just finished equivalent of 9th grade.
I'm actually qualified to assess and review studies, but that doesn't mean I've ever read them as weed is not the psychophysiological effects of high amplitude waveform stimulation of viscera.
>marijuana induced panic attack
Its called being a faggot light weight
It causes brain damage, but nothing permanent if you stop.
No, but you can get dissociation which comes pretty close, it sucks though. If you wanna go insane, try some salvia divinorum
I feel the same. There's just no fucking way you can permanently alter your mind so you stop caring and it's frustrating.
On the other hand, I feel like I'm a stronger and better human than all those schizos and other freaks, but then again that changes nothing.
Read the sticky maybe?
I use it for aiding cramping in my muscles and for anxiety.
works well.
So sad to see this level of ignorance.
Not gonna happen.
t. Smoke weed everyday 2-5 times for the last 20 years.
Enjoy your scrommiting, degenerate.
>Have you tried psychedelic
Never tried, but I'd go for some anytime.
I heard it does wonders for depression, though I'm reluctant to even get rid of it.
>as a made up reality is a very strong temptation
As long as I don't drag anybody down with me (or at least I can't perceive the fact), I'd like a made up reality, much better than the current one, yes.
Poo in pop maybe?
Take 10 grams of shrooms alone in a dark room with no windows.
Guaranteed results.
>powerful psychoactive drug
>weed
A couple guys I grew up with are heavy users, bit of them are fucked the same way. It's like they got stuck in puberty. Can't remember anything or learn new concepts. Both of them are always getting sick. Both of them are addicted to it. They're in their 30's.
Money money money mooooney,,,,, moooonnnneeyyyyy
5 is a little too much for beginner we don't want him talking to tress for the rest of his life
Give shrooms or acid a try, look into terrace mckenna
Shut up you drunk piece of shit
This, it's a bit like the vegan argument, no one side is ever going to convince the other, it's like politics in that respect
>scrommiting
Being this much of a fag
it cures cancer you fucking dipshit
nobody is saying to smoke weed like a bugman
it should be legal because some people do not respond well to alcohol
He's not gonna go insane from a bunch of mushrooms :') he can take as much he wants, have a bad trip (at worst) and wake up the next day. That's all.
That seriously depends on the guy and the enviroment.
But hey if he wants to go insane, why not overdose on DMT but he probably would just end up ego dead and a vegetable.
>If you wanna go insane, try some salvia divinorum
Wish i could find any. I've always wanted to try it.
>There's just no fucking way you can permanently alter your mind so you stop caring and it's frustrating.
That's impossible for me. I have people I love, like family and close friends, and whose expectations of me I care about deeply.
Not only can I not fulfill any of their expectations, for example, It's becoming more and more of a burden to even lie to them about myself. It's getting harder and harder to put up the face that they care about, and without which, I'd look like a walking catastrophe for them.
Lads I have to watch black panther or my co-workers will think i'm racist
The only way I can possibily enjoy it, is if I get high
Do you think i'll get clocked if I vape in the cinema room?
Serious replays only
>5 is a little too much for beginner we don't want him talking to tress for the rest of his life
T-that'd work too.
Salvia is overrated as hell.
You just go insane for 1 min and then its gone.
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Or serious comedy gold happens as shown in the link.
You cannot abuse dmt you can abuse mushrooms
user you need to start reading and start making friends with drug dealers
Can't you get high before?
nice Wikipedia article. ur rite tho. unless you're taking a shit ton of pharmaceuticals weed is prob not a good alternative
>But once they get off it, they get hit with anxiety, depression, and whatnot after a week. That's the head waking up in a cold room after sleeping under warm blankets.
Thats only in very extreme cases, I've been smoking pot on and off for about 15 years or so, I've never been depressed in my life. Sure I got sad and cried over some minor stuff, but never depressed.
basically, all the """""facts""""" that are stated here only occur to the very weak minded people or those who are already paranoid as fuck
>user you need to start reading and start making friends with drug dealers
I got some people I know, but psychedelics are a bitch to find here.
since vape doesnt really smell. probably not.
Just take 2-3 giant tokes before you go in, if you have to refresh you go to the toilet.
But black panther stoned sounds like something were i would just crack jokes the whole movie.
And not the racial sensitive kind.
weed magnifies whatever you're thinking or feeling. that is why, when people are with their friends smoking, they sometimes laugh a lot - since they are in pleasant scenarios.
also, if you're contemplative and smoke you will be very focused and have tunnel vision.
but if you are paranoid or stressed. YOU WILL GET MORE PARANOID OR STRESSED.
>or my co-workers will think i'm racist
>flag
I dont see why this is a problem?
Take a train to Netherlands
>basically, all the """""facts""""" that are stated here only occur to the very weak minded people or those who are already paranoid as fuck
You sound like a very happy, well adjusted person.
If you don't have shit gnawing at the back of your mind, then I guess it wouldn't happen.
>Why do some people support legalising cannabis
because they like it and don't want to get in trouble for smoking/vaping/whatevering it.
> been shown to cause brain damage and congenital damage?
Pretty sure smoking it while pregnant leads to premature births but I can't vouch for the rest of this. For me the main drawback is that its basically a nigger thing to do, like hip hop. I can appreciate a good hip hop, but ultimately its not for me and feels like a larp.
>Is it because of media brain washing?
little bit, pretty sure its mostly just people enjoying it and wanting to do it legally without concern for the health consequences. Stoners are always convinced that its "so much healthier and safer than tobacco or alcohol!" Smoking it is probably just as bad or worse than cigarettes, and people should not be driving stoned just because it easier than driving drunk, that's fucking retarded. Then there's always the medical users gonna jump up and make special pleas... annoying. Whatever is out there is going to abused whether its weed or adderall or oxycodone.
Is the correlation between being a German and doing hard drugs like a complete junkie fiend a result of outside degeneracy or is it just part of the ethnic makeup?
I doubt it, shrooms most likely grow in cowshit all over romania. Just gotta wait for mushroom season.
Here in the outskirts of COlogne you can find plenty of magic mushrooms.
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Enjoy your marijuana induced psychosis.
I believe that being depressed is just a meme, this is why im still sane
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This.
I've seen studies saying it has negative effects and others saying it has positive ones. There's too much money around the issue to trust either side completely, and I don't understand all the science anyway, just part of it.
I do know some really smart people who've been smoking weed for years with seemingly no negative cognitive effects. I also know really dumb people who've been smoking weed for years with seemingly no positive cognitive effects. I'd say smoke it if you like it, just don't be a leech relying on other people to feed your habit.
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Just grow your own instead of looking through cow shit. I know you Germans got that weird shit fetish but it's the 21st century
This is so ignorantly written. Have you ever even smoked before? it would probably do you some good.
Cow shit is one the best place to grow magic mushrooms
I used to be pretty anti-drugs, then i realized moderation is pretty much the only thing that matters.
For a counter point to the shilling weed turned me from a rage monster who would explode at shit after a day at work, gave me an excuse to go hiking which turned into a pretty great hobby on its own, as well as let me not feel like i was wasting my time reading books (don't know why i thought that in the first place though). Also after about a year i subbed out fast food for just a big ass bowl of fruit for munchies and same with reading lets me get into blowing 1-2 hours in the afternoon working out without feeling like i'm wasting time. Smoke probably twice a week with a collective
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Marjunana is so safe bro, you just have to go on anti psychotics if you smoke yourself into a life alerting panic attack.
Cow shit natural grown shrooms is far superior to the growkit wool shit you order from the netherlands nigel.
Why do you think it's ok to regulate what people can and cannot do with their bodies?
You can tell that 90% of the people in this thread has never smoked weed or even touched anything harder then caffeine in their life. I legitimately cant tell if its all bait or a bunch of 15 year old autists.
Kek, you need to be 18 to post here
You really are retarded Leif.
Well tabacco gives you lung cancer and you can get liver failure from excessive alcohol usage and they're both legalized so weed is alright in that regard. It's not like ICE where turns you into a violent psychopath
It probably does cause brain damage, it probably does reduce testosterone, but it also keeps me from blowing my brains out, so im okay with the former.
The only psychedelic shroom we have growing here naturally is some big red one that also happens to be poisonous. You're lucky.
>I believe that being depressed is just a meme
It's really not. At best you feel like a fucking zombie. If it's worse, then all you can think about is how hard the things you have to do are going to be, how everything you do can easily fail and probably will, how defective you are, and how you deserve to die, and you physically cannot thing of anything that will make you happy. In the worst case scenarios, you get literal heartache, feel crushing pressure and cannot go more than 2 minutes without doing something to take your mind off of your thoughts. At the end, you just lay in bed, doing nothing but obsessively thinking about anything other than reality.
It's mortifying, and if you ever do end up there don't even think of denying it and just moving on. It doesn't let go until you fix what's eating you.
Smoked for years up until about a month ago. Towards the end it just made me feel shitty/anxious. Can confirm that it definitely made me more retarded. I’m hoping after some time I’ll improve but it seems that I’ve fried myself lads.
Oh well, still less retarded than most people but still, makes me think about what could of been..