CPAC 2018

Starts in about 30 mins.

Schedule: cpac.conservative.org/agenda/

Livestream: youtube.com/watch?v=9GWwDCJ-e9U

Interested in seeing what Marion Le Pen has to say.

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Who cares what idiot conservatives think?

They revoked Richard Spencer, they're evidently afraid of any remotely challenging ideas.

fuck yes, marion lepen is today

cant wait for her to become queen of france

We all know CPAC is controlled by Jews, RINOs, shills, et al.
That isn't the point.
The most important and powerful people on the Right speak here including the current President.
If we could get Spencer or someone else interesting into CPAC that would be great but we know it wont happen until the Overton window massively.

spencer is too liberal for cpac

Apparently it's only streaming on facebook right now.
Just google CPAC facebook and then go to their video section and it's live right now.

anyone worth a shit on?

Not yet just a bunch of boring jews mostly talking about economics and how socialism sucks and free trade is amazing etc etc

BRING BACK PAJEET

wtf where is Jarryd Taylor

youtube.com/watch?v=MF20fQ33XpY

hey its the cpac guy

I believe Pence is speaking next for anyone who cares.

Is Pence a neocon? Or just a christfaggy cuckservative?

Or is he both?

Honestly? I'm not sure.
My guess is cuckservative but I really don't know.

Pence chunky wife talking first.

Queen speaks in about 1h30

Ok Pence is out now.

>muh mass shootings

can she speak english?

She probably has a hot french accent.

>that cheering for jewish capital

You can almost smell the bagel worship through your speakers.

I really dont get how Americans were convinced to give a shit about another country's capital location.

mind blowing

>i didn't stand up

>we stand up

hmmmmmm

More cheers for individual mandate repeal than the wall.
This nation is truly cucked.

spaceboy

From what I know she's mediocre, maybe she took some courses since she left politics. She will at least have a written speech she practiced a lot so no worries.

Very likely

Shes planning of running next election?

I figured she left politics to be prepped for being her run

>Just listen to one another

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

She distanced herself from the Front National to stay immaculate from petty internal politics and get involved in some business so she will be able to talk about economy with some experience of her own, unlike 90% of our politicians.
So she may run, depending on the political climate, on how much the right wing landscape change. If her aunt Marine stays in the competition, no point.

Is it normal to play hail to the chief for the VP?

I would be smart to run her, seems like theyre doing everything right.

I bet marine would step down if marion's chances look good and I'm assuming they will

Still the guy you're replying to.

No, MLP would never step down for her niece, only if she's forced to somehow. She will not handle her the party, she's too full of herself. But she is burned a bit from the presidential campaign, she fails to find a second wind. Maybe she will let things go... We'll see in two years or so if she want to stick like a tick.

Btw, you can ask anything if you're interested in french politics.

How popular is Macron currently?

I get that

But can't she just be party leader and not run for office?

Also are people pissed with Macron? I figured he'd have a horrid rating by next election considering he like economics and is pretty capitalist.

I'm still bummed that Milo got cucked. They should invite Vee next year, King of the Liberalists.

His popularity went up in late 2017 but started going down again, end of January he was roughly 45-49% approval rating depending on polling institutes, which is surprisingly good I have to admit. Next poll should get out in a few days.

Which party? FN? As I said, no way Marine Le Pen hand out the party to her niece in the near future. She would have to build a whole new party, strongly conservative, in between FN and moderate right ("Les Républicains"), and steal voters and executives from both of them. She wanted to, but couldn't really. She's waiting for one of the two parties to crumble and rebuild something to unite the right on a socially conservative/economically soft-libertarian platform.

>I figured he'd have a horrid rating by next election considering he like economics and is pretty capitalist.

Sorry I forgot to answer that one.

The thing is he has yet to face a real crisis, economic or social. For now, he fares well because he is really good at communication and damage control. He gives a bit to the left, a bit to the right, never too much in any direction, just enough to not piss anyone. He also has the media on his side and, most important, no real opposition. Both left and right are scattered and weak because of the election's aftermath.

I have no idea if you would know this but has French foreign policy toward Africa changed with Macron?

Have you been sending in troops to places in the past year and sending a ton of aid?

No, France's politics toward Africa has been quite consistent in every administration, with the exception of Sarkozy destroying Lybia for Obama (and himself as Ghaddafi had dirt on him).

We maintained both our troops and aid afaik. Macron said during a visit to Ouagadougou, in front of Burkina Faso's president: "Sometimes you talk to me like I'm still a colonial power". He wants to give the illusion that France's hold on Africa will come to an end, but it's a lie, it's too valuable for us. We're still gradually being kicked out by USA and China though.

Whats the difference support for the EU between young and old?

Also thanks for the answers

LE PEN IS HERE FUCKERS

QUEEN MARION!

im hard

>you'll never marry Marion
Why live

She should be president of France

>Marion walks in and cuts a promo on the EU

Usually, the younger they are the more pro UE. This has to do with propaganda of course, but also with the fact that they've only lived in the UE, never without it, they equate UE to Europe. To me it's somewhat a good thing, because that means they feel Europeans, it's the beginning of a racial feeling.


Holy shit Marion's accent I'm dying. Did you thought it was sexy? Was it even understandable?

I understood every word, but it was not sexy

Cspan1

What did you think of the speech overall?

Do young people believe in European values or something of the sort?

Whats making them feel European outside of propaganda?

The speech itself was good. I think shes limited by being shitty at English but she French so whatever.

It sounded like something a National Front politician would say.

For France I don't like the libertarian economic view. I think that would go over poorly in France. It does show a split from NF thinking though. maybe she can make a right wing coalition, but I think its a bad idea.

She gives a speech well overall, I've seen her speak in French and she seems improved. She should be ready for the big stage.

>Do young people believe in European values or something of the sort?
No, there's no "European values", that doesn't mean anything. Openness? Peace? Liberty? These are basic values everybody share, the UE doesn't embodies anything beside free travel between euro countries, which would be a good thing if we could take non whites out of the equation. To most people the UE is totally abstract and doesn't really mean anything. In France, people are even starting to stop caring about "the Republic's values", so the UE ones...

I believe they partly feel European because of massive immigration. It's basically Carl Schmitt: "you know who you are because you know who you aren't". Daily confronted with non-whites (something our elders never had to experience), they realize that being European is actually something. Meanwhile, they can now travel for a few euros to Amsterdam, Budapest, Rome for a week end, and realize there's people, culture and architecture that look just like theirs everywhere. And they lack critical thinking, they fail to see the downsides of the UE.

Is the United States of Europe the future?

I have no idea what its like not being able to travel around, neither do young Europeans. The idea I get is that the liking of the UE is more a fear of not having it, but they have never lived without it.

What is the future role of the European Council?

hmmmmarion

Whens the next speaker worth a shit?

>Is the United States of Europe the future?
That's what eurocrats want. Right now, it's the road we are taking, but the election of conservatives and euro-skeptics may change this course. We are at the crossroads. Merkel and the Commission are tightening their grasp on the whole thing, they want to accelerate the process so we are too much into the interdependence there's no real way back other than a collapse.

>The idea I get is that the liking of the UE is more a fear of not having it, but they have never lived without it
They're being force-feed with the bullshit that without UE it's fences, walls and war, while with it it's love and cooperation. As you say, they never experienced without it, they don't understand the UE is not vital to cooperation between countries. Of course people could travel, it's not Schengen that gave us this ability, it's technology and economy. Sure it's nice to have common currency and no passport checks at the airport but our media, our schools and our teachers are teaching them that without the UE it's WWII all over again. Of course they're afraid. They do believe that without the UE it will be totalitarian in a way or another.

>What is the future role of the European Council?
It's being cornered as the Commission plays the Parliament into serving its goals against the Council. But in the end, it's the Council who decides, it's them who have the upper hand. The UE wouldn't even be a problem if most of our leaders weren't complete liberal cucks. Change Macron for Marion Le Pen and Merkel for Alexander Gauland or Frauke Petry and the UE can become a great thing. The Commission members are named by the State leaders, not the other way around. It's them who enable mass immigration, erasure of our cultures, weakening of our economy to benefit Germany, etc. The Commission is a tool. If we only had Viktor Orbans in the Council, the UE could be great.

I love how the French do not give a fuck about speaking English correctly. Does the sentence start with "I consider"? Well that second word looks like one I know: "I considère" it is, then.

Why can't she be my waifu?

On the topic of Merkel. I see when she leaves as the time the EU is most likely to destabilize. Either with an ideology shift or a collapse.

Is there a plan in place for replacing her, or mitigating Germany's role? Do you have idea as to what the future without Merkel would look like?

>watching cpac
>not watching bloodsports
breitbart called, they're missing their boomers

That's a very accurate description of how most French apprehend foreign languages.

checked also lol caught some NPR coverage and interviews on the way in to work this morning
>hey you're not really conservative rite?
>ban all the guns rite?
>it's big tent rite?
>how much guns are you willing to ban?
>trump's not really a conservative and people like trump rite?
>you like moderate centrists and gun banners rite?
>so this year in order to get elected, you're not really looking to be conservative, rite?
>mike pence makes it ok to be less conservative, rite?
>and you'll ban all the guns forever?

Top fucking kek

Save Europe and maybe you'll get her phone number.

>Is there a plan in place for replacing her, or mitigating Germany's role?
They're securing all key roles anyway. CDU has locked the UE for a while now.

politico.eu/article/martin-selmayr-became-eu-top-uncivil-servant/

ft.com/content/293a4ae4-16e5-11e8-9376-4a6390addb44

Now, people close to Merkel and belonging to the CDU hold 3 very powerful positions (Selmayr, Klaus Welle and Helga Schmid) and will very likely carry on after 2019 no matter what.

Also, Merkel, who's challenged and shaken by last elections already chose her successor who likes like an old lesbian. I don't know if this new woman will manage to have the power and longevity Merkel has, but the old witch sure has her pawns very well placed to ensure a smooth transition. It will depend on how Eastern Europe manages to hold its ground. France is vassal to Germany, and the two together have a fifth of total weight in the Council. Eastern Europe could form a blocking minority and enforce change, but they would need the whole of Visegrad Group, Austria and Italy... Don't know how soon (or even if) that can happen.

>who likes like an old lesbian
who looks like*

Thats devious but smart on their part

I have to go, farewell and thanks for your answers earlier

have a good night

It's standard practice and why Trump's seeming inability to "drain the swamp" is so difficult. Unfortunately people seem to have forgotten about how the game is typically played, so folks are still caught up in talking about whether or not Merkel will survive when she's nearly a derelict ship already and what's important is the stay-behind team.

Mr. Belgian is an above-average Sup Forums poster.

Its weirder in the EU because there's much fewer positions to fill.

But they filled them all with CDU cronies. I'm not sure if they dont realize this is happening in Europe or if they just dont care.

With trump he has to tear up departments, and he picks cabinet positions making the government reflect the executive. In Europe CDU is very much a minority. It's strange that this goes on so unopposed.

Effectively being the president of Europe will be a tough role to fill for anyone though.

To me, this is what makes a guy like Macron so interesting. He kind of popped up out of nowhere and swept it simply by being an arrogant nobody who happened to have one foot in with the old guard and one foot ready to go in a new direction.

As with US political parties, I think it's going to be more interesting to look at where the new blood is going to come from than to worried about geriatrics who are on their way out or the strategic structures of government itself.

well we sorta see where the republicans are going now.

it just depends where democrats though. They have all these sjws and shit, but they really have no young politicians and the party has no aim. I doubt it will be neoliberals, and im not convinced we'll get full on socialists either. Maybe something like Labour in the UK where they pretend to care about workers but really just care about brown people votes is my guess for them.

I doubt they'll get their shit together by 2020

(((CPAC))) excluded Trump 2016

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Agreed. For the time being, it's the party of resisting the expectable rejection of globalization and almost being able to finally implement the NWO, so there's pretty much no vision beyond doubling down on being anti-Trump and pro-demographic replacement so that it can consolidate power at some time in the future.

It might be nice if, before then, we can see a populist/banking split, but they've already targeted the very word "populist" as being evil because they know all too well that the party itself is coming undone. It ironically puts the "conservatives" in charge of which direction exactly to go for the time being. Hopefully they act with some daring instead of squandering the opportunity and handing the ball back to the NWO crowd.

The way I see it is they're fucked.

They pretty much have to be pro worker, but you cant be pro worker and hyper globalist. Its also hard to be pro heavy immigration.

They could try and be a hyper globalist, socialist lite kind of thing, but it will never win. After they lose again in 202 they'll need to rebuild and get rid Pelosi/Schumer and all the other old fucked which is about the entire party. Im not sure how they're going to be able to be a free trade everywhere, one world government type of party. Which is good for Americans, I don't see it changing. Americans don't know anything about the world and honestly don't give a shit about it.

they banned /ourpoo/ dinesh d'souza fucking neocon rothschild zionist kikes

Yeah but they also promoted him in 2012, when Ron Paul was running.

So it's understandable why the democrats would just stick to a holding pattern and try to run out the clock. No matter how dysfunctional they are, they will eventually be voted back in to power at some point as long as they can hang on to enough of an "anything but the republicans" voter base and as long as the republicans fail to deliver on what got them a massive voter turn out.

It makes an otherwise nobody like Mike Pence unexpectedly interesting. Here we have a completely milquetoast mildly slimy conventional establishment politician, and everybody wants to use him as a bellweather to signal which way the wind is blowing. Will CPAC determine to make itself relevant for the future or be yet another "boomer" organization dying on the vine? If I were a strategist, I might well see something like this as an opportunity to throw the Trump voters just enough of a bone to keep them from revolting, while still signaling to the establishment that it's going to be business as usual once the little people are back on the reservation.

>Will CPAC determine to make itself relevant for the future or be yet another "boomer" organization dying on the vine?

I like CPAC, not as much as I like everyone there, but it does a good job showing the platform and where the party is headed. They usually try to cater to young people a good bit; they'll never have someone like Spencer there, but why would they.

I think they do a good job with the strategy you described already. In pasty years though it was about throwing libertarians a bone,, and most are young so it gets them involved. They brought Marion Lepen, I wouldn't have watched today without her, so I believe they know what they are doing and they are doing it correctly.