How do you feel about fanservice in anime at this point?

How do you feel about fanservice in anime at this point?

It's good if it's creative and suited to the mood

It's bad if it's cliche and unsuited to the mood

Ambivalent. I like titties, but most fanservice heavy shows are shit.

It's cheap, lazy and ultimately drags the medium down.

If it's good, I feel horny. Else I feel annoyed.

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i like it

I honestly don't care.

It's service for fans. Should I feel negatively about it?

I like the natural pantyshot one.

For example, the character is fighting and the screen actually point at the fight instead of the crotch.

A small visible panties occasionally show up when she move wildly but the screen never give it a closer look.

>creative and suited to the mood
So you can't simply enjoy ass, you need a creative ass? And the ass can't simply appear, the show needs an assly mood as well? Man, asses are complex topics.

Okay, I never press enter more than once in this post..
What the fuck.

It's what prevents anime from becoming art and why noone takes it seriously. Even master piece anime will be put under the bridge of history when it includes fan service. If you want your dick appealed to go watch porn relating to the show. If you want to watch a show with good story and animation then please focus on animating that instead of "x falls on y's breast"

I'm glad anime isn't considered "art" and taken seriously. I'm watching it to be entertained, not to prove how fucking smart and cultured I am. The last thing anime needs is more serious attention from the west.

Easy way to spot underage kids and fat feminists.

> 404 ass not found

At this point in anime or my life? I can enjoy it in overtly tacky shows, in some it comes off as pointless. In Monogatari it comes off as belying the LN tier content.

This. New Game nailed it

Pointless

Mostly overstayed its welcome.

It's just a crutch, almost as if a writer doesn't have the confidence in his characters to to be appealing.

Threadly reminder that not all fanservice is sexual.

to abbreviate the point since you don't seem to get it: context matters.

It really depends.

I like the particular fanservice scene you posted because it really tells you a lot about Senjougahara and the way she views the world after it crumbled down all around her.

Looking back at it after knowing so much about her, it's 100% in
character for her.

>Used to be much more like Kanbaru; a perverted tomboy, probably with a genki streak
>When she grows ill, she begins to close herself off emotionally
>When she's almost raped, in theory she would close herself off physically as well
>But instead it inspires a lust for control when it comes to her sexuality

For Senjougahara, Araragi seeing her naked is a lot less embarrassing than say, him calling her by her first name.

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Fine when they don't spend too much screentime on it. As a bonus, I won't complain. When you spend minutes at a time, or half an episode (or entire an entire one) on scenes that have nothing going for them but fanservice, it's different.

The problem is how uncreative it can be. Generic beach episodes, generic onsen episodes, stock fetish outfits, etc can fuck right off.

Obviously it's a different story if the point of the show is fanservice. The quality/creativity of the fanservice is what becomes most important.

How about this ass? It is creative enough to put a nice ass like this on a loli and the mood is very suitable since they are both naked inside the bathroom.

By the way, this is Oshino Shinobu's ass in the monogatari series. This was the bathroom scene in nisemonogatari.

subtle is good

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They once told a story, then sprinkled it with some fanservice. Now they show fanservice and sprinkle it with some story.

These guys get it.

Never bothered me and never understood why others bitch about it.

You're just embarrassed to like something that shows nudity and need some execute, aren't you?

You need to be 18 years old to use this site.

That is every hardcore masochist's dream. To be able to take the most extreme torture and then completely heal again. You could experience the pain over and over again without dying. Ribs crushed, arms completely broken, internal organs destroyed and more.

>pocky
It's a Chupa Chups.

Do you think that only underage people are lolicons? Almost all lolicons are full grown adults. Hands off the computer and do your homework kid!

So I'm going to put this question out there to you guys:

Since 2014 is fanservice being used more or less frequently?

new game is so fucking boring.

'03-'07 was the peak of fan service.

It seems like there's less and it's tamer.

If I want to watch porn, I'll go watch porn.
If I'm watching anime, it's not because I'm horny.
Shoving naked women on the screen randomly in order to titilate me is just annoying. It's a marketing strategy that only works on pubescent boys and manchildren.
Featuring nudity and sexuality is fine as long as the writer and director have constructed a scene in which it's fine and works in the show's favour.

Hard but it can be cheap.

Same way you can't simply enjoy anime, you need a good anime.

P.S. Anime good at being so bad it's actually entertaining counts as good enough.

Always good. Possibly the only thing japan is good at.

I'm not gay but it's fucking annoying

Weak bait

>I'm not gay but
>it's fucking annoying
user I'm so sorry...

It doesn't bother me really.

There are lewd scenes in Being John Malkovich. Are you telling me it's not art now? Where do you draw the line on whether or not lewd shit stops making something "art"? Why would it make it not "art"? Sex is a major factor in life so should it just be ignored in media so that prudes like you can accept it as "art"? Is the Breakfast Club now worse to you because of that panty shot? If not, then why is it okay in other kinds of media besides anime? Is it because you don't consume any media besides anime so you just don't know?

>Now they show fanservice and sprinkle it with some story
Those are ecchi shows. Just avoid them if you don't like them.

>anyone who likes what I like and for reasons I don't are pubescent boys and manchildren, whereas I'm a mature intellectual who watches mature intellectual anime
Fuck off.

Nah, I'm fine with ecchi, as it basically tells it like it is. I'm talking about other genres besides that.

I really dislike fanservice if it comes across to me as jarring, embarrassing, and gratuitous. Like I'm not a fan if it makes me think to myself "why the fuck am I watching this" while it's playing, pulling me out of the moment. But every now and then it can be fun or funny.

It's almost necessary, but needs to suit the rest of the work.

source?

Do remember, tits and ass is not the only kind of fanservice there is.
References to other works, real life, cameos, etc. also count.

This is correct. Episodes 19-21 of Texhnolyze could easily be considered fan service due to their homages to Edward Hopper paintings.

I've become completely desensitized to it. Or is that the right word? Rather, I grew up. I mean, girls wear panties, it's completely normal for them to be visible from certain points of view. Why did such a natural thing ever feel "naughty" to me?

monogatari has the only enjoyable fan service

or you could just tell me the source

sauce on this?

As a bisquit on the side of my breakfast.
It's fine if it's there, but It won't do to eat it alone.

>t. never actually watched old anime
Look up Go Nagai. Cutey Honey was from the 70s.

Or you could stop being a fucking moron and use saucenao.

report, don't reply. they will always feign ignorance when they want to be spoonfed

Having a cast that sets up for quality doujins pretty much a requirement for me to watch an anime. Only exception is if it's 10/10 masterpeice that can stand up with literature. Anime is my entertainment junkfood, I don't want some fuckig diet coke nonsense.

If I'm watching an ecchi show, then I don't care.
If I'm watching a non-ecchi show, it better be justified or else it feels like it's pandering to an audience that probably isn't there.

Only if you autistically presume that the word is a logical compound of its component words instead of actually looking at how the term is used.

i didn't know that was a thing
no need to be rude user

With the current usage of the term that's true but wasn't it different originally? Isn't it from the Japanese community who used it for nudity without putter a deeper meaning into the word "fan"?

Anime is designed to pander to otaku, the people that actually buy BDs and merch. You're the audience that doesn't matter.

It's true tho

>fanservice
>Service for the fans

If you don't like it you don't like the anime you are watching unless it's really badly done.

Great

YZQ had the best fanservice; not in your face, natural, and you'd likely miss them if you weren't paying attention.

Not an argument.

Then there's a point to be made about the artistic integrity of the creator who is willing to inject fan-service in their work (where it was not required) for the sake of making a commercial success.

If fan-service was the only thing that mattered in anime there wouldn't be a point experimenting with ideas, there wouldn't be an outlet for artists to explore the aesthetics and concepts that other mediums simply do not care for.

Is fan-service bad? Not on principle, but it's neither the definitive quality of the medium.
Is it necessary to ensure the survival of the medium? Sadly, yes, at least at the moment.

Normies who bitch at fan-service are annoying, but so are the so called otaku that loudly claim that anything that doesn't involve pretty bitches doesn't belong in the industry.

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>So you can't simply enjoy ass
If I wanted to enjoy ass, I'd watch porn
>And the ass can't simply appear
If I wanted to have an ass pop up in front of me unexpectedly, I'd turn off adblock

>Man, asses are complex topics.
If you are a mongoloid ruled by your dick, maybe. The rest of us aren't animals and can separate our dick from our brains.

>tfw too smart to enjoy the aesthetics of the butt

I liked it better when it was more casual without the blatant shots focusing in on it. Like when it's the natural consequence of the characters movements. But I also can't stand the magic skirts in action scenes that are totally unbelievable.
Can't we have a happy medium?

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Character designs are fanservice on their own.

No, I've watched pre-2000s series that had both elements of my examples in it. Dirty Pair is another good example of such shows.

Mind you though, I don't mind the blatant shots if it's en ecchi anime, you expect that.

>Classroom of the Elite starts to actually get interesting
>next episode is fanservice episode with a completely different tone from the rest of the show and no plot progression at all