Why doesn't the US just annex its allies?

It's not like they can fight back? Isn't that better than potentially losing them to china?

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I wish we would annex Canada.

Manifest Destiny 2.0, the North is ours.

They want it to happen anyway

those numbers will be a lot higher now after Trump's win
we're the ones who crossed the border to vote for him but the MSM keeps calling us Russians
Anyways, I'm all for it, we have a nasty child sex slavery ring going on among other shitty thing and a good old takeover would be helpful.
Though I'd ask you first break two contracts with the british crown and banks (Crown Temple States & THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) before the takeover or you're just doing their job for them.

so why don't you? and i'm not trying to be edgy or smarmy or anything. i'm genuinely confused

You could call it Muttland

The mutt meme is a psyop to distract euro/pol/ from their death.

Unlike the rest of the world whites in America never stopped having children, the USA has the highest white population on earth.

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Canadians have no laws on territories leaving, then can vote to join leave Canada, then request annexation.

I honestly don't know why they don't try to separate, maybe (((they))) don't want it known it's legal or something

>Canadians have no laws on territories leaving, then can vote to join leave Canada, then request annexation.

god i hate mobile

Canadians have no laws on territories leaving, they can vote to leave Canada, then request annexation. **

I am surprised at Quebecs support tbqh.

so basically you wouldn't annex any country unless they request to be annexed?

You guys should organize a 'leave' movement in Alberta, you don't have to win a PR battle in Canada, just one territory

The hard part is convincing the monarchist loyalists.

How would forcefully annexing allies look to the rest of the world? Half the world wants WW3, that would give them another excuse.

If we was at war, sure, but otherwise no

You are so god damn stupid that I am surprised you can breath on your own.

>Ad hominem
Not an argument

theres no good reason the US wont annex canada, all the lebensraum ever needed and only what, 30 million people, possible 6 million battle-aged men that are too pussy and effeminate to put up any fight.

Old treaties need to be rewritten or scrapped. We defend them so they can have their universal healthcare and high standard of living because they dont have to pay for their own defense, any why do we put up with it?

Britbong signing in.

Please annex us, son. Make dad great again.

>How would forcefully annexing allies look to the rest of the world?
and since when did americans care what the rest of the world thinks? doesn't the election of trump make it clear you don't give a fuck?
>Half the world wants WW3, that would give them another excuse.
actually, no one wants WW3. like i said, the countries can't fight back. if you annexed australia let's say, who's to stop you? russia/china? they already know australia's basically an american vassal state, why would they fight for australia's sovereignty when it's an enemy to them?

annex us you faggots as long as i get to live in a motorhome in the arizona desert, own a gun and hunt my own food

t. Navy fag

>We defend them so they can have their universal healthcare and high standard of living because they dont have to pay for their own defense, any why do we put up with it?

right, this is what i don't get. why do you allow these countries to ride on your defense coattails for free?

>implying universal healthcare is more expensive than private healthcare

private healthcare is not ncessarily better than public, america is being raped by healthcare companies, theres no cost acountability, no risk of bankruptcy, little competition etc

Many Quebecers see the americans and their fierce defense of self-determination as preferable to anglo canada's policies of control and assimilation.
American constituion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>cucknadian shart of rights and civil libertines

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>private healthcare is not ncessarily better than public, america is being raped by healthcare companies, theres no cost acountability, no risk of bankruptcy, little competition etc
sure ill bite:

the US is huge, with many demographics. Working middle class people with good jobs get better health care than you do, brit. With a top tier PPO I can pick the specialists I want to see, and they see me quickly.
In bongland, everyone gets the same shitty treatment. Sure it is free, but what if you dont want to see Dr. Singh who hates you, takes 3 months to get a broken arm set, etc?
This is the problem with legislating for the masses, it means instead of letting the shitty poors die, you have to let them have the same level of care as the elites. And we hate our poors enough to let them die.

Hope this helps, commie.

>and since when did americans care what the rest of the world thinks? doesn't the election of trump make it clear you don't give a fuck?

The election of Trump shows we want OUT of world affairs, we don't want more.
Canada would be the only realistic country we would ever annex because they border us.

>actually, no one wants WW3. like i said, the countries can't fight back.
The elites want world war, lurk more.

And just because they can't fight back now doesn't mean they couldn't later. How weak we would be spread so thin across the entire globe just trying to hold ALLY nations, not even enemies... Suddenly a russian or chinese attack is alot easier.

And you're asking the US to forcefully annex allies armed with nukes, if we flip enemy on them suddenly M.A.D. starts looking a little better in their eyes.

no our healthcare is decent, my friend got cancer and they cured him, with cutting edge gene therapy for free

this is what happens when you are a north american with zero national identity

just like the US

Dude, do you know how much Work that would be? I don't mean the annexing part, that would just take a week or so, I mean having to govern all those extra folks and territory for years to come. They would just make a mess of our political system for several generations. Not worth the trouble having to assimilate them all. Better to only accept those who want it and have begun assimilating on their own, or at least prepping for it.

>with cutting edge gene therapy for free
youre welcome for inventing that for him

This would be a good thing

ok, but i was just talking about defense. what does america get out of defending half the world at enormous cost? why shouldn't they just go ahead and annex it instead? it would save a lot of political headaches

The US has shifted hard towards nationalism, where have you been the last 3years?

Because life doesn't work like a strategy video game you blatant retard, countries don't go around declaring war on eachother over nothing.

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>american healthcare is not a free market, its monopoly capitalism

>And you're asking the US to forcefully annex allies armed with nukes,
few of your allies have armed nukes. only india, UK, and france i think?

>How weak we would be spread so thin across the entire globe just trying to hold ALLY nations,
you're ALREADY spread thin across "defending" allied nations.

>what does america get out of defending half the world at enormous cost
almost nothing, america massively cut its military budget it makes no fucking sense, china is not a threat its contained by india, japan and the ASEAN countries

Why do Europeans pretend that North Americans don't have an identity? Do Europeans unironically believe the first American and Canadian whites just popped up out of no where 500 years ago and didn't come from Europe?
Our identities are built on what we've done in the New World for 500 years, and our identity before those 500 years are based on our European forefathers.

The USA would in all probability lose in a, non nuclear war with Australia simply because of the supply lines the USA would have to maintain. We would fight a guerrilla war on sea and land the likes of which the world has never seen. We have a submarine.

so basically because you're too lazy? ok

britain doesnt need defending by america its got nuclear submarines and 2 aircraft carriers for fucks sake, we still have us bases here wasting american taxes

Does everyone appreciate the strategic use of comma's I used, that's another thing we would do to fuck them up.

>We have a submarine.
>a submarine
>a

All the indians are looking at him like
>this mother fucker is just trying to get honor killed

except 90% of your country is uninhabited desert and your all clustered around a few coastal area

Behold, the most autistic logo anyone has ever made. The Organization of American States is the closest thing we have to this to date.

Only the Kremlin would do something that shitty.

The problem is that the main surrender-monkies are in Yurop. Not even useful as bases, t.bqh.

Y'all have been playing way too much HOI 4 lol

>you're ALREADY spread thin across "defending" allied nations.
anadians should try to do a leave vote, even if you don't want to be annexed, you could start your own nation

Yes, and this is why we want OUT of world affairs, what you're suggesting is to simultaneously be at war and defend allied(now enemy) nations, while defending ourselves against nations that foam at the mouth seeing any chance to take us down.

>few of your allies have armed nukes. only india, UK, and france i think?

This shows how little you know. For starters India has treaties with Russia for defence, and google a list of nations with nukes mate.

it's called consolidating power. right now all of america's so-called "allies" are having their cake and eating it too. using the US as a defense against china while increasing trade with china for economic benefit. this is at enormous cost to the united states you geopolitical illiterate.

Sounds like a prime time for BBs to make a comeback. Coastal bombardments when?

>Yes, and this is why we want OUT of world affairs

defending half the world isn't being OUT of world affairs

Where tf did you get a submarine

>anadians should try to do a leave vote, even if you don't want to be annexed, you could start your own nation


Sup Forums on phones is complete cancer

trade with china does not benefit europe or america, everything was going fine until we started letting them into the trade club and they used there billion slaves to destroy our manufacturing industries

China needs to be put in a trade containment zone, its a cancer to western democracies

>it’s not like that can fight back
This is why you’ll never amount to anything more than middle American garbage who is proud of the accomplishments of his countrymen but will do nothing with his life. You do realize it took 10 years of fighting literal cavemen to find their leader right? And when he was killed it only made them stronger.

>defending half the world isn't being OUT of world affairs

How are you not getting this?
>We want out
>We are tired of being the world police
>That's why we voted Trump
>Can't expect us to pull out immediately

"nationalism" doesn't mean you have an identity you 1/12th irishman

>why do we put up with it
Cause y’all some first class bitch Ass niggaz

>tired of being the world police
tell that to the military industrial complex, they are busy getting countries to LARP as the bad guy so you give them your tax shekels

>Why doesn't the US just annex its allies?
In many ways it has.

>It's not like they can fight back?
That is not true.

>Isn't that better than potentially losing them to china?
Depends on what you mean by "losing them". If you mean "losing" their business... maybe so. If you mean "losing" them physically... probably not.

It is better for the US to exert its power over its allies but still allow them control over their on internal politics, economy, and governance. Let them think they are free but ultimately be able to control as needed.

And take in a bunch of cry baby twats? No thanks.

see photos:
And my comment to you here:World demographic shifts are going to hit hard, your constant "mutt" comments show your a shill or blind.

The US could and they wouldn't have to worry about insurgencies from any of the conquered western countries.

Mutt

id prefer not to have my country totally raped by healthcare and military corporations though.

If only there was another form of government which prevented capialism from fucking over the people

Yea, apparently they told him to knock it off with all the "traditional garb" cringe and go back to wearing suits. He did.

>tfw your leader is a massive soyboy cuck
feelsbadman

5.7 million hectares of arable land telling some one from a nation of 50 million hectares of arable land that they're mostly desert, you're mostly not fucking there.

Lol. I've bren to the states enough times to realize the average man is a fat fuck compaired to a Canadian.

>Isn't that better than potentially losing them to china?

They are not worth annexing and china mostly doesnt give a fuck except to sell them shit.

No one outside our continent would do much. There would be political bullshit like deep concern. Russia would train anyone to be a rebel who wants it. Thats it.

Also I hope this graph means the Saudis are going to get fucked. Get us self reliant and then fuck everyone else by invading SA.

We made it out of a rare mineral not found in the US called aluminium.

Euro muts usually identify with each other pretty well. Hell even the lighter latinos are not that bad.

Ameribro, don't you know the psyche of the typical American? We were isolationists before WWII. It was Perl Harbor that forced our hand.

And 9/11 just reinforced that.

In the words of Colin Powell (yes he is a libturd but still well said)

Powell responded by affirming the “soft power” of values but that it was the “hard power” of the military that, for example, helped free Europe and so the “soft power” of peace and reconstruction could take place.

Powell then said, “We have gone forth from our shores repeatedly over the last hundred years and we’ve done this as recently as the last year in Afghanistan and put wonderful young men and women at risk, many of whom have lost their lives, and we have asked for nothing except enough ground to bury them in, and otherwise we have returned home to seek our own, you know, to seek our own lives in peace, to live our own lives in peace. But there comes a time when soft power or talking with evil will not work where, unfortunately, hard power is the only thing that works.”

>t. basement dweller

Get off the pc and go upstairs for a bit, your mommy will be happy to see you out of the basement she might even make you some tendies

Don't you guys have an aircraft carrier that won't have actual aircraft on it until like 2022 or something?

If the USA annexes a country and makes it another state and allows them their own government, but just imposes USA federal law over the top, probably that new state would do well. For example, citizens of the new state can now have USA passports and relocate to any other USA state. Businesses can freely trade with other USA businesses. I think many countries would welcome this. But the USA has to deal with all these new citizens.

Let's say the USA government takes over another country but they don't give the invaded country equal rights, instead they subjugate the citizens and steal their resources. This leads to conflict, making the whole process expensive for the USA.

tl;dir it's better to figure out ways to exploit countries without actually making them part of your own country.

sorry but its true. The west's identity has been so mass marketed and sold to the rest of the world not it simply meaningless as everyone has adopted it. Name one significant thing that North Americans do that is special or unique

The second we stop defending you Putin will basically annex the North Sea. Plz don't let the lefties scrap your trident missiles, you're literally fucked without them if we don't save your ass.

> it's better to figure out ways to exploit countries without actually making them part of your own country.
but then they elect a fucking poofter like this and you have to ask yourself if restraint is really worth it

>Don't you guys have an aircraft carrier that won't have actual aircraft on it until like 2022 or something?
it will probably never be used

>The second we stop defending you Putin will basically annex the North Sea
Putin would never attack a Nato country
Why would Putin care about invading eastern european poors?
We wont scrap them and even if we did russia still wont get

GDP of EU $17tn
GDP of Russia 1tn

We should be able to defend ourselves from our peasant neighbours without America

Putin sure as fuck would if he could. You claimed Britain doesn't need defending but without NATO defending you it'd be fish in a barrel for Russia. Europe might be better off under Tsar Putin though, desu.

>Europe might be better off under Tsar Putin
cant be worse than what we have now

Still he's not going to invade, no reason to do it:
he has enough resources for russia, no need for lebensraum
War is massively destructive to economies
Bad for russia's reputation
Gives america an excuse to sanction them
Probable mutually assured destruction, Putin's home city getting hit with nukes
Europe has a much higher population than Russia, so difficult to suppress the resistance

Good question. We should annex Canada, and install a permanent garrison in Mexico City.

i can imagine china agreeing to help us so they can annex russia's east

heh
take it from my cold dead hands
burgerboi

>Europe might be better off under Tsar Putin though, desu.
>cant be worse than what we have now

you guys realize russia is quite literally 90% a 3rd world country, right? what kind of underage faggot thinks theyd be better off under a corrupt dictatorship with a shit economy?

This too is my dream user.

>what kind of underage faggot thinks theyd be better off under a corrupt dictatorship with a shit economy?
thats a joke on both of our parts i suspect, at least not gonna flood us with shitskins tho and they wouldnt want to come for gibs when we poors

Nuke toronto

Easily done leaf, what are you going to do when are AR-15s rake you all up

>china defending american vassals

no

heh
we will just have to burn your little white house to the ground
kid

Because annexing shit nations would bring all of their problems and none of their benefits

t. retard

yes, manufacturing has been hollowed out, but that's only a certain segment of the economy. western economies are mostly services, like litigation, consulting, financing and stuff. most businesses have benefited enormously from outsourcing low skill work to china, which of course upsets the blue collar in those countries

>>Can't expect us to pull out immediately
you're doing the exact opposite

Except it was Scottish highland troops sent by the bongs that did that
Literally no Canadians were involved
You also forget that we came into your shithole 3 months later and burned your entire parliament building to the ground along with half the city it was in

so why even defend them in the first place at enormous cost?