>netflix adapts Anne of Green Gables, results in grimdark feminist propaganda
>Japan adapts Anne of Green Gables, results in one of the greatest anime ever made
And people expected anything out of Death Note. Rather then seeing the west butcher anime/manga, I'd rather see more anime adaptations of western classics.
>greatest
I'd put in on the level of Little Women. Literal moeshit.
I was quite disappointed with their adaptation too. I have no idea why they needed to have all those scenes with Anne's abuse or whatever. They are never gone into in detail in the books I guess it was more "gritty" that way or something.
Then you'd be wrong.
Wait, what the fuck? Are you guys serious?
>Canadians adapt Anne of Green Gables
>it's fucking excellent
Oh. My. GOD!
I remember watching an Ann of Green Gables TV show back in the 90's. Is that one? Because it was a pretty nice watch.
Entirely serious, one of the best things Isao Takahata has directed prior to founding Ghibli and Miyazaki was involved with the series too. It is widely respected among Japanese animators and critics as one of the best works of the medium.
Yep, it's great television.
Fucking hell, man. I loved the book and I loved Anne so much when I was a kid. I don't think I ever before or since related so hard to a character. To the depths of the hell with this.
Sounds pretty good. Might give it a watch one of these days.
>moeshit
KIKOERU KASHIRA
>more anime adaptations of western classics.
Thinking of anything in particular?
Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita
>more anime adaptations of western classics
I wonder if WMT will ever come back?
Still waiting for Netflix's K-On!
It is one of the most faithful adaptations I have ever seen in anime. Don't think there is a single line or scene missing that I recall. The backgrounds are also beautiful. The book was put on the national curriculum in Japan in 1952 actually and they frequently get Japanese tourists to Prince Edward Island still today.
I'm pretty sure most intellectuals thought Netflix Death Note was an improvement on the anime/manga.
So, do you think Death Note is a Japanese classic?
Set in post apocalyptic France, with a bunch of speaking animals as main characters.
Because localization or something.
Just play the race card on these fuckers and tell them why do they think anime/manga which is an expression of Japanese culture is inferior to western styles of media.
Fight cancer with even more cancer.
>Gritty reboot of Anne of Green Gables
Maybe they should've attempted it with Pollyanna instead?
>intellectuals
I don't know if this is bad bait or you making fun of SJWs.
I think this is more indicative of the era of television we're in now. WMT was designed to faithfully adapt these western classics for children, while Netflix was most likely trying shift the adaption to the post-Sopranos """golden age""" TV audience.
And they fight against zombies for the first three episodes; then they meet a group of asshole humans and the remaining twenty-three episodes are spent fighting those asshole humans because "man is the worst monster of all"
Fuck off back to Sup Forums cancer.
A FUCKING LEAF
>>netflix adapts Anne of Green Gables, results in grimdark feminist propaganda
Huh, did i missed something?
I think he just wanted to make a thread about WMT/Akage no Anne that would actually get responses and it seems to have worked.
Nextflix did an adaptation of Anne of Green Gables, they had like these dark scenes of her being violently abused instead of just leaving that in the background for some reason and she would suddenly have these PTSD like flashbacks and space out when talking to people. I stopped watching after a few episodes though to be honest. They had some preacher come in and tell Anne of all about how girls couldn't be anything and have Anne think it was bullshit and a Marilla attend a fucking feminist book club?
Yeah, the cancer that is post modernism.
You might think I'm being ironic but a shonen jump manga like Death Note was never highly revered among real anime critics so a movie that pretty much decides to go full camp spectacle and mock the source material makes for a much better experience than a pseudo-deep babby's first psychological fiction.
Sure it is, whether or not it's good is a whole other argument.
>real anime critics
>MAL faggotry
>You might think I'm being ironic
No, I'm just hoping that you are ironic for the sake of Sup Forums.
What do you think that has to do with MAL? Japanese write academic papers and history books on this shit.
Fuck you for reminding me the Netflix version exists.
Real fucking things in that show
Anne makes a big moral about NOT having kids in the Netflix show ("people have too many kids and hurt everyone!")
(Actual Anne goes on to have like fucking seven kids)
She has some big fucking speech about how she can help out in the farm as a much as a boy because feminism, which is weird because... she doesn't at all. In any version. Anne knows she's a girl.
Anne is the most generic feminist "icon ever". Anne voted Conservative all her life. The author was more of a "maternal feminist", which is feminist in name only and pretty much says "men and women are different".
The priest is a villain because of course he is. Anne was a Presbyterian.
God bless Japan's Anne.
>What do you think that has to do with MAL?
>MUH, critical consensus.
> academic papers and history books
On the "critical consensus" for mid 2000 anime?
Are you actually serious?
The biggest accepted critics for late night anime are the Otaking and a fucking porn author.
Both of them aren't even taken serious by the majority of core anime viewers.
Sites like MAL are the closest there is to a critical consensus.
Because like the King stated
> For every 1000 otakus, 50 become actual anime creators.
And the 950 who do not directly create anime still serve a vital purpose: they are vocal critics and connoisseurs who demand the very best of the 50 who do create.
It's even more funny that you talk about academic consensus, which is normally determined by the social sciences, which are filled with SJWs even in Japan.
Are you ok?
I knew it was bad but not bad like that!
Almost makes me go watch out of curiosity...
They rather not.
They Better NOT
I would kill for a Ghibli version of The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien or an anime based on Candide by Voltaire.
Don't forget Matthew now has a love interest.
what a tool lmao
Don't.
It's not even a pretty show. It's ugly as sin, which is unforgivable for a Green Gables show. There's nothing creative or interesting in it.
Honestly I recommend watching the western animated show. Or the Canadian series. Or anything else.
If you must, the first episode shows you literally all the problems. You only need to watch the first 20 minutes to feel disgusted at how ugly, boring and "dark" it is.
Ender's Game could be interesting, hollywood version was rushed as fuck.
This is missing Utena.
Every single pretentious cunt who pretends to like anime has masturbated over Utena. Especially the trannies.
It's weird. Trannies like two shows: Lain and Utena. I wonder why.
Not all Utena fans are pretentious cunts, but all pretentious cunts are Utena fans
why is welcome to nhk in there?
Utena is a genuinely great series though. I don't see how anyone could hate it.
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>Not all Utena fans are pretentious cunts, but all pretentious cunts are Utena fans
This is literally just your subjective opinion though.
Also:
>caring about a fanbase
>ever
You're upset for no reason.
its part of an elaborate ruse yet underway
Dune
>someone saying that "Not all Utena fans are pretentious cunts, but all pretentious cunts are Utena fans" = "this show is bad"
Is this autism?
You know you can see patterns in the fans of a show without hating it, right?
Literally every opinion is subjective. It's not even an opinion, it's seeing a pattern in an audience. It's like saying "Sonic fans are autistic". It's a seeing pattern in the type of people who like Sonic.
Dune done by Satoshi Kon-era Madhouse would be great.
The Netflix Anne OP is talking about was produced by Canadians.
All I remember about this show was the double VHS boxes.
Do people actually like Death Note or is it a meme? I am legit
It was one of the big entry-level series of the 00s, of course there are people who like it. It's not uncommon to see in the favourites of babby weebs. Last I checked, the general consensus on Sup Forums is that it's okay up until L dies and then goes full retard after.
Its pretty great in some moments until the second season rolls along and basically destroys it all, but hey the soundtrack had some good songs
Yeah that's the consensus most people I've found have in general. Didn't little babby weebs get kicked out of school for writing down names in their own death books? fucking lol
Is the second season around episode 15? I started watching it after the shitty movie and I liked it up until those episodes where I just kind of lost interest and thought it was dumb as hell
what if I told you L was manufactured
Why the fuck are you talking about Anne as if she was a real person? I'm an islandfag, Anne was fictional and so is Avonlea.
Wasn't he left in an orphanage or whatever? Every weeb friend I've had throughout my life has always wet themselves over Death Note and explained to me the entire plot but I never really listened.
That would explain why L is so boring. He has no real character flaws.
>no real character flaws
I mean if you think a human like that can live in society just as easily as anyone else then sure
>watch this no long after my dad passes away to Cancer
>get to the part with Matthew
That shit hit so close to home. I can't think of another anime that handled loss quite as well as Anne.
As someone who has read the manga and watched the anime, I liked the Netflix Death Note and felt that there was genuine love for the franchise. There were too many little moments that I could compare to the manga despite the story being original.
>Ryuk is basically identical as a character with the same motivations, but he's just comes off as more sinister in the movie
>Ryuk tells Light Yagami that he thinks he was the best possible person to pick up the Death Note, since Ryuk's goal is to be entertained
>Ryuk tells Light Turner several times to just give up the book. However, you can see that he favors Mia, who is far more like Light Yagami in characterization than Turner is, going by how she'll kill even innocents without remorse. By the end of the movie, Ryuk recites his "Humans sure are interesting" line after seeing Turner's Yagami-esque plan, which hints that Turner will become more like Light Yagami in potential sequels.
>Mia lies about what happened to Turner because she doesn't really care about him, only becoming interested after she sees what he can do with the Death Note, and eventually concocts plans to have Turner give ownership to her. Whenever Turner starts to doubt her, she uses his infatuation with her, much like how Light Yagami used Misa. She's willing to kill the FBI agents tailing Turner and Turner's dad, which were things that Yagami did/was willing to do to hide his trail.
>Light Turner isn't a genius like Light Yagami, nor is his popular. He's booksmart and easily inferior to L, and only by the end of the movie does he pull off a Light Yagami.
I was glad that the movie wasn't just a list of boxes to check off.
-Light finds Death Note
-First kills
-Ryuk introduced
-L introduced
-Shinigami Eyes
-Task Force (Soichiro, Matsuda, Aizawa, Mogi, Ide, Ukita) under L
-Second Kira
-Yotsuba Kira
-L dies
-Near and Mello teased
Netflix are just a distributor are they not? It's not as though they are a production studio.
I mean, he is super intelligent and always finds a way to deduce situations. I'm completely for that, but as soon as he starts kicking Light and portraying him as this competent fighter, you've lost me. I'd be cool if he was super intelligent but was also detrimental to his health from obsessing in the case, not sleeping and only eating sweets.
Character Canon, decently consistent characterisation between versions.
Didn't think I talked her different from how people talk about Batman or Superman.
Didn't it air on CBC a few months before Netflix?
Wasn't really expecting this from them of all people.
What other world master piece theatre stuff should I check out besides Anne?
Heidi and Marco are essential, some people will recommend others but those three make up the series at its peak. Remi isn't true WMT but it's popular, would recommend if you are okay with Dezaki's style.
Romeo
And I'm aware I'm in the minority. They should have called this "A Death Note Story" or "Death Note Gaiden" or whatever and not named characters (minus Ryuk) after the manga characters because people expected a pure adaptation.
Light should have been Lucas/Luke (or Luce pronounced as Luke if you want to copy the 月 (Tsuki; Moon) being read as ライト (Raito; Light) naming thing since it was a special snowflake name to begin with). Lucas/Luke/Luce all have the meaning of "light" and would be more of a nod to the original character than making people think it's supposed to BE Light Yagami. It also brings to mind Lucifer, who rebelled against God and tried to take the throne after turning the majority of angels against him. While apples in the manga were never meant to have religious significance, you could do something like that here with a Paradise Lost theme.
I think that "Mia Sutton" making you expect her to be the Misa Amane of the movie worked well because it hides the fact that her character is far more based on the original Light Yagami, so that should stay the same.
Ryuk should still be Ryuk since he's basically the same character.
L should have been X or something, but that still feels too on the nose.
I'm in favor of Watari remaining the same for the sake of the Luce pun, since Watari (渡り) means "ferry". Lucifer comes from "Lux Ferre" ("light ferry" or "light-bringer"), and seeing that as L's undoing would have been sweet wordplay.
>okay with Dezaki's style
>style
What the fuck does this even mean? How could anyone be against a masterpiece?
Like, he's pretty distinctive, and Remi has it in spades.
It being an adaptation was the problem in the first place. Should have been just a death note story and actually taken a look at how the death note situation would unfold in a different place (in this case, america). Instead we got this half-assed weird shitty thing that sucks.
Perrine is underrated.
Did akage no an ever get good translation? Back in the .avi days, I've watched eng subs from Chinese bootleg DVDs that were pretty horrible.
And why hadn't Japan adapted teacher / mom Anne yet? There were so many more books.
The only thing that I really disliked about the "adaptation" of Death Note is that they insist calling it an adaptation.
This Death Note is a whole another show inspired on the universe of DN, not an actual adaptation.
I was going to write more things on my post but you basically wrote what I was going to write. good job
I have no idea. It's weird they made a prequel anime instead of adapting the rest of the books.
I guess it's the loli appeal
All the ones that are translated. And then cry over the ones with no subs.
>feminists
women going to college should be illegal
economic consequences and fedora-tipping-accusations be damned
If it's okay for Sherlock Holmes I guess it's okay for him too.
>super smart dude who can also box, swordfight, and knows some bullshit martial art
It was also one of the reasons why Anne of Green Gables were a best seller in Japan
There is a version of Anne subs I put together timed for the BD release that seems to be the main one distributed now. It uses Silver Zero Subs for the majority of episodes which are much better quality then switches to the ones on the old version that used to be on bakabt somewhere near the tail end of the series. Silver Zero Subs still haven't completed the series though looks like they are up to the 40s.
The Brother's Karamasov and pic related
Utena is a blatantly unapoloteically feminist show which ends with a literal liberation of the eternal feminine.
It wasn't an adaptation though. There were elements that were taken from the manga but it's very face value stuff for the most part.
There's a high school student named Light as the main protagonist. He's smart and finds the Death Note at school one day, soon using it to become Kira and rid the world of evil. His father is a police officer which gives access to classified police reports.
Light's girlfriend is Mi(s)a, who is also his accomplice.
There's an eccentric, reclusive detective known only as L. He's solved many unsolved cases easily, has a sweet tooth, squats instead of sits, and has Light's father join him on the Kira case.
L's handler since childhood is a mysterious man known as Watari.
Light's father doesn't want to believe his son is Kira and this puts tension between him and L.
Ryuk is pretty much exactly the same.
There's a one-sided infatuation between Kira and his accomplice, L has FBI agents tail the police suspects and their family members, L challenges Kira directly during a live conference, L determines that Kira is based in a certain region based on what he believes to be the first Kira killing being from a certain area, there are Kira worshipers, not all the police are on board with the Kira investigation, the Death Note is a book that can kill anyone written in it as long as the writer has their face in mind, along with other rules.
But watching the movie, you can see that there's a lot of original stuff that uses these elements to become its own thing, even the rules of the Death Note. All the rules are written in it from the beginning, and not all of them are the same as the rules in the manga. I was glad to have an original story with Death Note elements rather than a straight adaptation because there are already so many ways to experience the exact same Death Note story.
These are those subs I was talking about by the way
nyaa.si
Also I forgot if you download the raw release it points to in the description that they are meant to be used with then you need to get episode 12 as well separately
nyaa.si
I can't remember why but something is fucked up with the episode in the actual batch raw.
Though if you have access to bakabt or the other private trackers I am fairly sure those have the same subs with video in one torrent.
The only thing women have is their ability to be potentially interesting in a conversation in order to marry well. To be good hostesses and homemakers.
They need to go to college to learn how to child rear, etiquette and conversation skills. Men don't have time for that shit, but if you want to get anywhere, a wife who can hold a conversation in a social setting helps you.
I unironically read some woman write in like 1901 or something that forcing women into colleges meant for teaching male skills instead will only make them frustrated and bitter because they won't teach them skills they actually need (needlework, cooking, conversation) so they will be worst at such things and therefore relate to them negative, and will only enforce them to be inferior men. It was fascinating.
Hands down the best OP of the entire anime history.
youtu.be
ED is also GOAT. This anime is a miracle.
>Anne of green gables
>Grimdark
Just how weak minded you are?
Maybe feminazi shit, but grimdark? Come on...
Have you seen the Netflix series?
Grimdark is a pretty accurate descriptor.
I remember when when CBC was shilling their version by putting out that the writer of Breaking Bad was involved. That hint turned me away. Though I never knew it would be this bad if what you guys are saying it true.
If you hold it against the original text or the anime version it is fairly obvious that they've focused on making the story "gritty" and darker. Maybe calling it grimdark might be exaggeration a little bit but it definitely doesn't fit with the tone the work generally had and doesn't work with Anne's character at all. I think it shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the appeal of the material on behalf of the director or writers involved that they thought emphasising and inventing the abuse she may have faced in the past was a good idea. I mean when you are reading it or hear her reference those things yes you can probably assume she faced some pretty bleak situations in the past especially given historical context but the way they have put focus on it makes it like a core defining part of her character which isn't the intention in the original at all.
>OP is an ensemble
Jesus Christ I miss these OPs
Shakespeare
both are good, I liked the netflix version, as a kid anne was a great and happy book, but now as adult I realize that the only reason she was so happy and energetic was because she had a shitty life as a kid.
Netflix version is more realistic and actually show you how life was back then, you can see that in the details like the food, the house, the clothes and other things.