Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio George Lincoln Rockwell Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
Don't worry there's a bunch of bait wouldn't be surprised if you accidentally scrolled by.
Asher Allen
OP here still sucking cock
Joseph Gomez
Alright, i think you should add this guy to the list of fascists.
Blake Adams
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Evan Young
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Thomas Roberts
Where would you guys put Mosley on a political spectrum chart?
Andrew Martin
anyone have tds260?
Gabriel Myers
I haven't heard of him. Who is he?
Hunter Roberts
(0.2, 0.5), something like that at least
Ian Ortiz
Boleslaw, are you familiar with this flag?
Hunter Bell
Oh yes radical camp. Haven't read anything about them have anything?
David Peterson
wut? i don't get the poster
Joshua Gray
Shiiieeeet, i actually don't, maybe that Pole will come and give the full story.
Kevin Morris
I was just looking for one of these! In the last thread I said I had just finished Codreanu's "For my Legionaries." Some user told me to read "The Squire's Trial." Are they here?
Kevin Parker
I wish someone could add Salazar to this. Then it would be perfect.
Christian Baker
>red and yellow What are we, gommies? Also would an elective monarchy with romanesque earned citizenship be considered fascist?
Robert Russell
I believe Rexism could be similar to that, not so sure...
Cameron Ramirez
>the national colors of Spain are communist wew
>Also would an elective monarchy with romanesque earned citizenship be considered fascist? does it have a national syndicalist or corporatism economy?
Camden Evans
bump
Grayson Garcia
Somebody should edit to black color.
Aaron Collins
So hypothetical situation here, bear with me.
Let's say that the lefties do push too hard and start a civil war in the States. Anyone with half a brain knows that the result would be quick, brutal, and not in the left's favor.
So now you guys did it, you run the entire show. What's your take on the average white American who didn't want to get involved with the combat side, but didn't attempt to hinder you guys either.
For instance if the hydro electric plant engineer says something like "I like this new system because my pension is back and I have great job security, but I'm getting tired of seeing that flag on every street corner." Would he get a visit from the local political hygiene officer?
His formulation of the "third way" between capitalism and communism was particularly appealing to me. Also he was a poet, his speeches are aesthetically unmatched.
Andrew Harris
honestly that sounds like a strange scenario. Political unhappiness generally stems from economic or social unhappiness. Someone who's biggest problem with society is a vague dislike of the current governmental system isn't worth worrying about
Aiden Butler
Yea I have his roots of the right saved. I'm okay with spanish since I know it.
John Miller
I freaking love Salazar.
Caleb Wright
Why do most people not consider Franciso Franco a fascist?
Blake Ramirez
He was conservative with a facist face.
Leo Peterson
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Austin Sullivan
Here's a screenshot I made of one of his speeches regarding capitalism. Again, I'm sorry it's in Spanish, but it would take me a while to translate it.
Alexander Anderson
Should really start supporting Falange more. But Sup Forums is flooded with Natsoc
Jace Powell
because he tended to dance around ideologies and try to combine anything he thought would make people like him more. The only thing he was really consistent about was disliking liberals and communists
Dylan Wilson
I guess it also had to do with him Nationalizing certain companies.
Bentley Gonzalez
It doesn't help that most are fake NatSoc. True National Socialists can be strong allies for us, but they can also attract the worst of humanity.
Brandon Hill
Is synarchism Sup Forums approved?
Liam Cooper
Could you give some details?
Jace Kelly
Fair enough. A lot of Americans just don't know much about fascism, except that it's very, very bad. It's probably the same way in Canada.
The only reason you guys are even on the radar is thanks to antifa and their shenanigans. People are starting to ask a lot of questions about how fascism really works. For instance, why am I going to punch the alleged Nazi when antifa is burning the flag and trying to shut down traffic? The Nazi seems to be minding his own business, why even mess with him in the first place?
Alexander Wilson
Some people here label his regime as "National-Catholicism" rather than Fascism, because of his emphasis on tradition and particularly Catholicism, which wasn't as prominent among Italian fascist or German NatSocs. There are probably other reasons too, but I don't know.
Xavier Perez
It's okay. I just love Jose and his Falange movement. It should be spread more in Latin American countries like he wanted too. Something like the Mexican Synarchist party but it's not really popular anymore, I wanna see it make come back so bad.
Ian Cox
Fresh OC
Adam Flores
Hell yea it is. Seriously has a chance of coming back with the social strife and increasing wealth gap. It could come back if it plays it's cards right.
Hudson Hernandez
Have you seen Cultured thug's videos? He explains it pretty well, it's basically a mexicanized version of the falange with highly catholic influence.
Evan Lopez
Bump
Joshua Watson
Well, Fascism is always different in every country, like another user has said, a British fascist isn't the same as a Spanish fascist, and a Spanish fascist isn't the same as a Nordic fascist.
Charles Morgan
I'll check it out.
Lucas Garcia
I also think it was a great political philosophy, although I have yet to read more about it. You probably know more about it than I do. What would you say are the main differences between Jose Antonio's Falangism and German Natsoc, besides the emphasis on race?
Andrew Fisher
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Jose Allen
This. Most are all kill all nigs XD
Carson Campbell
What could have been, although he never really was specific on what kind of goal he wanted.
Well Jose didn't blame Jews ( well I don't think he did) this literally only thing I can think of. I am ashamed of my self :(
Matthew Brooks
Let's post some dumb things said by people who have a textbook definition of Fascism. >Military dictatorships are all fascist, Pinochet was a fascist!
Angel Moore
if fascists took over the government after a civil war, it's very likely that most immediate dissent would have been curtailed by casualties on the other side. After that most of the solution is just making sure society runs smoothly. Thought policing is difficult and inefficient compared to just making people not want to commit crimes
Camden Reed
Does anyone know about Adrien Arcand?
Josiah Ortiz
Okay, yeah, that's another main difference. Franco used to talk about the "judeo-masonic conspiracy", afaik, but not José Antonio. He seemed to emphasize more the unity of workers and patrons, or rather the unity between all social classes, and not so much the "foreign agents" as the Nazis did.
Asher Anderson
Don't let the thread die!
Charles King
I don't, who was he?
John Thompson
Creative, but simple is the best in my opinion.
Agreed, he really was a brilliant if absent minded man. More an opportunist than theorist, but a fascist theorist none the less. Reminder to aspiring pelleyist and researchers that the 1961 copy of No More Hunger is edited heavily. Go for the copies before then if you buy.
Joseph Lewis
Holy shit I never seen a Canadian look like a serial killer damn...
Jose Roberts
He does look like the evil clone of Mosley, no? A Canadian National Socialist, called himself, the Canadian fuhrer. I believe he was Quebec.
Jack Brown
They were also anti-racist no?
Angel Brooks
>Punished "Venom" Mosley: an Anglo denied his beadiness
Tyler Baker
>Mosley, full lightside >Arcand, full darkside, corruption. I'd like to see someone make this.
Ryan Moore
Funny thing is that adrien is québécois. He was born in Montreal and died in Montreal. The madman even called himself the CANADIAN FUHER Haahahah holy shit.
James Morales
Nice, although "Canadian Führer" sounds a bit like an oxymoron nowadays. Did he have any support?
I don't really know, but it's probable. Spanish Catholicism has had some strong anti-racist branches since the colonization of America, so it seems likely that such kind of "ecumenalism" influenced Falange.
Grayson Ortiz
/fsg/ is back? Oh boy, who here /againstthemodernworld/? Anyone know about Ezra Pound? I would love a tl;dr about him They were still big around the 80's, I can't believe no one here remembers them, they tried to set up a sort-of colony in my state (BC) for God's sake
Josiah Brown
Gah! Fuck me I meant Führer
Levi Ross
As with most Fascist movements during this time, The National Unity Party (Canadian Natsocs) were banned, but he did get support.
Cameron Evans
Oh no, Attomwaffen, the edgelord group, is now gone.
David Green
>they tried to set up a sort-of colony in my state (BC) for God's sake What's that about?
Juan Hill
Same im against the modern worlds too. I actually don’t know about Ezra pound but I will like to know, border crosser.
Henry Carter
What are essential readings for understanding fascism as a political theory?
Oliver Davis
So, how would Fascism really work in the United States, Ethno-nationalism and a Homogenous society is pretty much impossible.
James Fisher
Mosley - Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered Mussolini - The Doctrine of Fascism
Brandon Turner
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Connor Lewis
They still big? They should really start doing something for support maybe a march in a city.
John Mitchell
Unrelated question, how do you guys feel about Holocaust Denial? Personally, i don't consider myself one.
Jordan Foster
First, we would have to ask: Is fascism necessarily related to ethnic or racial homogeneity? Or is it more about order, regardless of how heterogen the social substratum is?
Dominic Cruz
But you have to understand, African Americans and authority don't go together.
David Hall
>Rexism really inspiring to me, Degrelle was a machine
That's possible, but that's kind of an empirical matter, not a foundational one. Or is it? That was my question.
Easton Powell
Well i know that racism and ethnic nationalism doesn't have to be a rule in Fascism, (The Integralists did believe in racial assimilation, no?) but then again, civic nationalism is kinda stupid.
Austin Green
most Holocaust denial stems from the pisspoor way it's taught in the west. It's taught to instill guilt and not to educate, so most facts are blown out of proportion or stripped of context. Holocaust deniers seem right because usually they're attacking things that no one credible actually believes, like all 6 million Jews being gassed and burned in ovens
Brayden Nelson
Ethnostates aren't really necessary but we should have racemixng laws like Italy did.
Jack Brown
Well, I think there are various issues to take into account. Desiring racial purity or the preservation of one's race is certainly a plausible (and legitimate,in my opinion) political position, but yeah, as you said, I don't know how it should be inherently linked with fascist doctrine. Perhaps different types of fascism emphasize different things. What I would argue, although it might seem paradoxical, is that the original Italian fascism could arguably be closer to "civic nationalism" than American-type ethno-nationalism. What do you think?
Brayden Cruz
Ok, I pose the same question to you (I didn't know about Italian race-mixing laws):
