>can block all magical attacks from mages
>could completely disable a mage's magic circuits by touching them
>could probably vaporize a Servant with a single touch, seeing how they're literally made of mana
>same with Noble Phantasms; even basic sword attacks mean nothing after he blocks it
>can probably even shatter a Reality Marble just by touching the ground
Does the Fateverse have a single counter to this guy?
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Imagine Breaker doesn't work on servants because they're already constantly being affected by what is essentially the same thing.
Why isn't that guy just shot dead with a regular gun anyways?
If nasu and kamachi decided to go insane and make a crossover touma would do hilariously poorly in an HGW by the sheer fact that the upper crust of earth that is inhabitable is literally a reality marble that toumas ass would fall right through cause lolIB.
hes probably the very last person anyone would want in an HGW because of that.
Saber gets a gun and shoots him.
Kungfu sensei would destroy him.
kek
Can Accelerator kill servants?
it's not like he's gonna be able to block every single weapon coming out of the gate of babylon. Berserker's sword-axe isn't made out of magic and is just a rock. There's no way Touma is landing a single touch on Berserker if he's swinging that around and blocking it means nothing. Sasaki Kojiro could just use tsubame gaeshi and it wouldn't matter if Touma blocked 1 of them because they're 3 instantaneous slashes. Mages like Rin, Bazett, and Kotomine are all adept in hand to hand combat and don't need magic circuits to fight a human.
>the upper crust of earth that is inhabitable is literally a reality marble
wut
It's possible but improbable
So basically just like the real 5th Grail War, and everyone's favorite ginger
You haven't seen how THICCC is his plot armor then.
Alright lets not even assume he would shatter Gaia's reality marble like EA does but literally all the god damn time and gets auto fucked because of it since their functions are similar except touma is retarded and can't turn his off. Lets look at different wars as to how he would do:
F/Z: he literally gets shot by Kiritsugu like when he blew up the hotel Kayneth was in, or Kotomine hands him his ass on a plate.
F/SN:Sword autist would lose if its post current touma in NT, Touma still goes down like a bitch to Medeas kung fu nutter master or kotomine, or HF happens and everything goes to shit for everyone involved.
F/HA hes gonna be doing fuck all but relaxing for a few days then get completely dicked by infinite shadow monsters. Fukou Da.
F/A: Sieg bullshit kicks in and he loses, or he gets his shit handed to him by Karna, Or Achilles since hes literally Sanic tier full retard super speed.
F/Extra: Assuming same rules apply to mooncell as gaia for this thought exercise and touma doesn't end up in fuck knows where, he once again loses to Karna, or Mother fucking Buddha.
F/CCC: i wanna say he loses to Gilgamesh since EA is more liberally abused there and hes actually far more willing to give a fuck cause he likes his master. BB is essentially omnipotent there and i don't see it. Same with Kiara going literal full Beast.
F/SF: hes in america, and hes actively against the american government. Touma has a rather shitty track record going against the american government. this doesn't even include the fact that pretty much every single servant there is top tier and would probably wreck his shit.
He'd probably do really damn well in prototype, Fragments, and F/GO though.
>>could completely disable a mage's magic circuits by touching them
No, for the same reason ass below.
> the upper crust of earth that is inhabitable is literally a reality marble that toumas ass would fall right through cause lolIB
IB kills things that are unnaturally changing the world. He doesn't kill the world itself. The Index world has leylines and such and he won't destroy all the mana just by touching it. This has been known since early OT. Of course he wouldn't destroy the world even if the world is similar to a reality marble.
Gaia has a reality marble that makes shit inhabitable for people and keeps things from going to shit thats constantly active. if its not active you see an earth thats a giant ball of fiery death.
Touma assuming his shit works on reality marbles and shit just by being there would shit a hole right through the planet and his ass would get roasted.
>“I’m not so sure your Imagine Breaker can negate leylines, Kami-yan.”
>“Eh?” Kamijou looked shocked. “But leylines are…um…magical…right? So…”
>“Yes, but…” Tsuchimikado interrupted him. “I just can’t figure out what your right hand really is. You say it can negate any magic or esper power. But take an occult power like a human’s life force for instance. You can’t kill someone just by giving them a handshake, right?”
>“Well, no…”
>“I get the feeling there are some odd exceptions. And leylines are most likely one of those exceptions. I highly doubt you can obliterate the entire Earth just by touching the ground.”
its also questionable as to whether its reality marble is specifically considered unnatural or not even if its Gaia's.
Planets are pretty fucking hostile in type moon.
>fate and raildex powerlevel thread
Ohh boy
See . Gaia's reality marble must be a natural part of the world. The best way to understand IB in a Fate-sense is a souped up concentrated version of the counter force.
Latest novel basically reveals that the thing that's inside touma's arm was basically an anti summoning tool that initially removes any kind of summons, somehow in extend repels supernatural powers.
Since servants are summons then touma can literally erase them just by touching.
Saber Altura. Thats her real physical body
I agree with Touma erasing a servant. I disagree with him erasing a magician's magic circuit or the world's reality marble itself.
>it's not like he's gonna be able to block every single weapon coming out of the gate of babylon.
GoB is small-time compared to what he's gotten through. Gil would probably end up being one of the few servants he could beat since the others would actually bother trying.
Yes, erasing a reality marble would be impossible but he can erase the servant supplying the marble.
nah give touma more credit then that. i'd put him at the very least able to deal with the average servant with some of the absolutely insane shit hes done in NT.
My main gripe was with the whole gaia's reality marble mess as to how he would interact with that. he'd honestly do fairly well until he actually hit a top tier servant that knows what the shit is going on in regards of how to fight.
>Yes, erasing a reality marble would be impossible
I find some doubt in that, at least for one done by a servant. He did essentially break a distortion in space-time in NT4 without assistance like when Othinus used IB.
No, I think he can erase an unnatural reality marble. He just cannot erase Gaia's world field which is like a "reality marble."
Strongest Index that GARm Shirou could beat.
Shirou would specifically do poorly against touma because of how toumas powers work and the fact touma doesn't suck at his ability anymore. Shirou could probably wreck your average saint though.
I wonder how the actual Kamachi summoner would do. Can Servants beat Materials?
Shirou can't wreck accel
lets face it kyousuke would "Somehow accidentally" get the white queen as a servant in that mess and then proceed to flee for his life so he doesn't have to put up with this bullshit.
thats exactly how that would go down.
Shirou isn't fast enough to wreck any saints. Even with Archer's arm
Accel can also wreck average saints, mind you he went toe to toe with a full on angel in WWIII and didn't lose out in that fight.
Shirou would get dunked by acqua
>Getting dunked on by double saint
user plz, most things get wrecked by double saint.
Kiritsugu would just shoot him with normal bullets
Shirou would get wrecked by Kanzaki
From NT2 we do know that IB does damage Leylines but they come back right afterword and because of this destroy and return cycle is what aloud the Giant Fortress to follow him around.
It doesn't damage the leyline itself. It destroys some of the power flowing though the leyline.
Yes he would but then again Touma have survive Gun Shot in this series like in NT5 but that didn't stop him from doing anything in NT6 he was shot and still fighting Birdway so Kiritsugu better hope he get a headshot and even them some how he could miss because it bet said in the LN series that IB is plot armor and is one of reason he survive all the crap he go through so that he can continue to go through it all over again and never have the Sweet Release of Death and as the Series goes on Touma is getting less and less break between problems but then again that may have to do which IT becoming stronger.
Kanzaki is fucking ridiculous and can fight with servants
Also I'm still waiting for Saber vs Carissa to be a thing
Raildexfags BTFO
season 3 NEVER EVER
To be fair he only got shot once and got medical attention soon after, Kiritsugu wouldn't stop shooting probably unless he was relying on the origin bullet which would be a major mistake. That said post NT10 Touma is just as crazy with his violence so he would give Kerry a run for his money there.
Actually, how would using Origin Rounds be bad other than being slightly wasteful? He could null the effect but not the bullet itself.
I think kerry would try shooting his arm which would be a horrible mistake
It would probably run the risk of temporarily fucking up the seal on IT
What? No. He would try shooting his brainstem from a long distance which would be a good idea
Which how must more insane bullshit Touma has to go through after NT10 and how more insane his enemy have became after NT10 having to take more violence mean is no surprise that and he has not has a true good night sleep from Dec. 2 and even then we don't know if some bullshit happen in one of the sidestory that may of had Touma in the problem.
You guy suck
Is this the "can this character wina grail war" thread cause i wanna ask corna few characters.
precorgnition dodge
Precognition only works when he sees his opponents movements. Won't work against a sniper
In the context of the HGW it would be less of a issue of sneaking and more that Touma probably would never stop moving around.
Fragarach can kill accelerator.
Soon you will cry, denialfags
>literally wanting a bane of all magic to participate in such war
nigga you would have to be at least Magic God to beat him
he will literally find a way to end the war
Yet by punching the Greater Grail
He'd have to learn of its existence and find it to punch it. Not an easy feat for him
>he will literally find a way to end the war
>by winning
So the answer is Yes, Touma would win a grail war?
The real trick is what Servant would Kamijou Touma summon and whether Fiamma and Kamisato are also in the same war?
>The real trick is what Servant would Kamijou Touma summon
Avenger. They both have shitty luck
Nothing because he can't summon one
>punches Avenger so hard is purifies him of all the world's evils.
So then he can't win a Grail War. Thread over. Nothing to see here.
There's nothing stopping archer from taking him out easily.
Gilgamesh can just shoot a fuck ton of swords so he can't block with his one hand.
Emiya can snipe him from across the bridge.
GoB is nothing compared to Othinus's crossbow, trying to overwhelm with numbers isn't very effective anymore.
Kamijou Touma can't even win a war against a normal highschool boy
>because he can't summon one
This is a trick question because the Grail can give out Servants to people who weren't even trying like how Caster was summoned in F/Z.
Literaly anyone can beat the crap out of him. Only in his dimension that no one can melee a fucking kid.
Yes, he literally is the top normal lad there is. His literal presence distorts the surrounding. He will ruin the grail war
>could probably vaporize a Servant with a single touch, seeing how they're literally made of mana
Remember that arc with the magic ice ships? With that logic, Touma should have just been able to destroy them with a single touch
How would Touma or Accelerator do against Gae Bolg?
Nothing, they just die
Accelerator can survive with no hearth
>gets summoned
>body made out of mana
>right arm cancels out the summon
>he disappears
You dodge Gae Bolg with your luck stat, not your defense.
Gae Bolg warps causality. It's not that you see a spear coming and block it/get hit, you are already pierced when it's fired. Accelerator's deflection won't work. He'll have to come up with something else.
He would probably just beat the shit out of Cu before he got a chance to use it.
Cu doesn't strike me as the sort of guy to use his ultimate super death strike on what appears to be a sickly albino.
By Nasu rules, Luck is the ability to fight against your fate and Touma is the only man not tied down by destiny due to IB as per High Priest so he kind of funnily does in fact have an excellent Luck stat
That doesn't change the fact that even if it misses his heart, being stabbed by a spear fucking hurts, though he could at least destroy it, though he'd quite likely bleed out from that
>Cu doesn't strike me as the sort of guy to use his ultimate super death strike on what appears to be a sickly albino.
He will when Accelerator imitates GoB by standing there and flinging stuff via moving the air around him like a tornado because that's him going easy.
>plot armor
That's just his precog doing its job
Other than Accelerator, Misaki and Kakine could win the grail war by themselves. Sogita could probably bullshit his way out of it.
Unless it pierces Accelerator's brain, he could probably just keep himself alive with VECTORS long enough to counterattack. Of course, he'll die as soon as his battery runs out, but that's enough time to wreck some shit.
The thing is, espers are also reality warpers. Accelerator's reflect could work up to the 11th dimension.
I thought Gae Bolg only shot for the heart.
>he could probably just keep himself alive with VECTORS long enough to counterattack
I guess.
Did you even read my post?
You know, the servants and the magi can attack the ground he's standing on. Even if they're not able to do direct damage, he can still be killed.
Bazett would wreck his shit.
Anybody can do that, it's nothing special and he has dealt with such situations before and survived.
His vectors work beyond space and time. How that will not cancel Gae Bolg is lost to me.
>ctrl+f Souichirou
>no result
Tomafags never heard of Souichirou
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Last time I watch raildex, he can't calculate plasma properly just because Misaka clones alter the wind.
>work beyond space and time
>cannot calculate Angels unknown vector
You mean GUTS his way out if it
>he thinks angels use the same laws
>cannot calculate Angels unknown vector
maybe he's an accelfag, guess he will even say he can deflect any magic thrown at him. look
Touma wins as soon as a girl asks him for help. Dragons probably come out too
Not him, but Accel can affect magic after coming into contact with Aiwass. He kinda stopped Heaven in WW3.
Hell, fucker can actually cast spells without bleeding out from his ass, unlike Tsuchi.
But he did deflect magic during ww3 and also managed to calculate the vectors of angels shortly after
>implying he wont just pump blood using VECTORS to keep himself alive
would you summon touma as your servant?
Except he can't, what he did in Hawaii was so basic it couldn't even be called a spell, and he needed utmost focus to not start spilling blood everywhere
>wanting to summon a berserker
He's pretty damn good at keeping people near him alive, so I'd stick to him like glue and hope for the best.