Capitalism is a false god, Communism is manhood

Capitalism, in any form, without a central bank will inevitably go into economic recession since supply cannot always meet demand due to unforeseen events. In order to maintain supply and advertise supply, you need central banks to influence credit institutions into propping up the economy when faced with economic shocks. Central banks control the flow of currency, and in essence control which industrial sectors prosper and which don't. Capitalism is a big lie where people run behind money, and central banks determine the jobs behind which people run. Take the true redpill Sup Forums. In communism, you work because you want to work, not because you get conned into it.

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The only way communism can keep supply and demand in check is to overproduce so fucking much to the point of building entire ghost cities just to prevent economic collapse. It's fucking stupid. Fuck off.

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>The only way communism can keep supply and demand in check is to overproduce so fucking much to the point of building entire ghost cities just to prevent economic collapse.
That makes no sense. If you want to keep supply and demand in check, then why would you overproduce so much that you build ghost towns?

Except that's China's present market economy doing that, not communism. You're fundamentally wrong because one of the disadvantages of Capitalism is overproduction in hope of profit, which is a simultaneous waste of resources and drain on the environment.

Communism is just as Jewish and anti-White as Capitalism is.

It's the only way a communist shithole can keep their workers employed when nobody wants to/can buy the shit they produce.

Found the chink. China is still communist, dumb faggot. Their grorious reader is even abolishing term limits now.

Communists want to destroy race, culture, heritage, history and faith.

You'd destroy everything that makes the White race what it is.

No one owes you a thing, you lazy scuzzbag

>China is still communist, dumb faggot.
Their party sure, but the economy has long since reformed and has something of a hybrid economy, which is perfectly in line with the concept of Hegelian Dialectics - it was inevitable that the thesis of Capitalism and its antithesis Communism would synthesize into something greater than both - this early synthesis was found in Nazi Germany but was unfortunately crushed. China now is taking the reins.

We are in late stage capitalism now.. with all the money accumulating into the hands of a few. Communism will arrive shortly.

>AliExpress exists, therefore China is not capitalist
lmao your reasoning is fucking laughable. Retard.

Or a nuclear holocaust. :^)

And then it fail, as always
It will then be replaced, naturally, by its superior: national socialism

>It's the only way a communist shithole can keep their workers employed when nobody wants to/can buy the shit they produce.
Let's say you want to balance supply and demand, why would you want to over produce the supply to keep people employed? Why can't you produce just enough, or a little less? All you have is some shitty example from some gook infested pseudo communist state. Why should this be true in reality?

>Communists want to destroy race, culture, heritage, history and faith.
I don't think the Russians got that memo. Their culture still seems intact.

>Their culture still seems intact.
Not for lack of trying from the judeo communists.

>We are in late stage capitalism now..
There's no such thing as late stage capitalism. In true capitalism, once the economy goes into a recession due to an economic shock, it cannot be revived. It remains in recession until production is stimulated by pumping cash into the economy via a centrally controlled currency distributor. That's the whole purpose of keeping a central bank.

Objectively incorrect

I'm not seeing any argument, retard. But that's par for the course with your idiot type.

>why would you want to over produce the supply to keep people employed?
Because the people will starve if your commie shithole government doesn't order shittons of shit for the dumb proletariat to produce

>some gook infested pseudo communist state
>literally "communism has never been tried"
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>cant win
>therefore not real communism
WEEEEW LAD

Best contemporary classical music was written by Soviet composers. This statement is objectively true.

Maybe open your eyes then, ching-chong.

You were doing great until about halfway through. Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen saved the world economy and are the reason we don’t have to deal with 20th century bullshit.

This kills the collectivist

>Because the people will starve if your commie shithole government doesn't order shittons of shit for the dumb proletariat to produce
You keep parroting the same thing. Communism has to overproduce. When I ask why this is true, you respond with communism has to overproduce. Your trolls are soooooooooooooo boring.

What do you define as communism? Any kind of socialism?

Pic related = Joo

You should screen cap that comment.
I want you to look at it long and hard when the next credit crunch hits for exactly the same reasons it did in '07

There will always be purges and "hunts" for "counter-revolutionaries" that will kill A LOT of people in socialist/marxist societies. Name me one instance where this has happen here in the U.S.A., where a million+ people were killed.
>Huddle, Save, Pool, Invest, Acquire, Accumulate, Prosper, Repeat

>The ideology built around forced egalitarianism and gibsmedats is "manhood"

>Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen saved the world economy and are the reason we don’t have to deal with 20th century bullshit.
The existence of the Federal Reserve saved the U.S. economy, not individuals. The whole point of having a central bank is to control people. Americans don't like being told what to do because they're weak. But Americans love to be individualistic and materialistic. Central banks pump money into banks and encourage them to hand out loans in sectors that have the most jobs. Essentially, the central bank exists to dangle the carrot in front of Americans. Tomorrow, if the Feds wanted space exploration, then they would pump money into space exploration companies. Normies don't have any independent thinking and will run behind jobs that pay well, even if in the grand scheme of things the jobs are absolute shit and provide no value other than a distraction till we die.

So no, Ben and Janet didn't save the world economy, the Rothschilds did, long long ago.

If I'm so boring, stop replying to my posts then

>What do you define as communism? Any kind of socialism?
Socialism without classes is communism.

Oh shut up already, you just want the police to commit legal theft for your lazy fat ass because you can't get your fat ass off the sofa.

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Except of course all classes created by the new government bureaucracy. Every worker is equal, but some are more equal than others LMAO

>There will always be purges and "hunts" for "counter-revolutionaries"
>Name me one instance where this has happen here in the U.S.A
War of independence.

What you're saying is not restricted to communists. Any power hungry group with absolute desires to rule absolutely will kill the opposition. America has been killing people around the globe since 1940s. You don't account for it since America does it under the name of freedom.

the kaiser who else?
Kaisers and jews bad news

>you just want the police to commit legal theft for your lazy fat ass because you can't get your fat ass off the sofa.
No, that would be weakness. I want people to maximize their individual rewards by working towards maximizing group rewards.

So marxist leninism is not socialism? Why are classes inherently bad?

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@162146571
>pure sophistry
>bad faith arguments
>threats, ad hominems
Why do right-wingers support an ideology they can't even support while being intellectually honest?

communism is stateless. So by definition the gov cant make a new class as the gov does not exist

US didn't have a central bank in the late 19th century and in that period it ascended to the greatest economic world power.

Not an argument

wtf then who steals the workers fruits of labour? Some hipster faggot with a gun? Fuck that!
ROLL OUT THE YELLOW SNAKES !

Tbh communist countries were usually less degenerate than the capitalist ones, even east germany with their nudity and 12 rare porn movies that weren't even available to the public where less degenerate

because classes must fight each other, and the members of the poorer classes get poorer whilst the rich get richer. So the poor die young having miserable lives, whilst the rich can live long and decadent lives due to having lots of money. It basically makes a new aristocracy

>So marxist leninism is not socialism?
No, Lenin got the power structure wrong. In his blind enthusiasm to help the masses, he ended up creating a political class.
>Why are classes inherently bad?
Any type of segregation in a society built on farming is bad. All of us are evolutionary built to seek food. Farming does away with the effort required to seek food. So though we don't need to seek food, we still have evolutionary drives that were built for seeking food. A class based society gives people a false impression that some are better/different than others even though this may not be true. Why? Because the search for food is abstracted by farming. Once that happens, everyone is on the same playing field because you can cook up any society and it will function as long as people are distracted by work - an outlet to their evolutionary drives. So class based societies are bad because they add an unnecessary obfuscation via segregation.

>producing top-tier classical composers is not an argument against the accusation that commies destroy culture
ok

what you said made literally zero sense

Only because starving people cannot afford degenerate shit except alcohol

Why don't you understand what you dogmatically preach?

>US didn't have a central bank in the late 19th century and in that period it ascended to the greatest economic world power.
Bank of the United States was chartered in 1791. The fuck are you talking about?

Well the Romanovs are wiped out, countless churches and cathedrals have been levelled, Königsberg and former East Germany and Prussia were demolished and converted into grey concrete Stalinist hellholes. You also couldn't speak out against the state or raise arms against the state so that's a small downside as well.

In that fleeting moment between being equal in extreme poverty and being equally starved to death, socialism has become communism. Excellent.

If communism is stateless, then who takes the fruits of labour from the workers to redistribute it? If not someone with authority, then it must be some hipster bugman with an AK-47.

So purely meritocratic society in which everybody earns the same, but authority belongs to few selected people is okay?

What if the classes are equal?

>Why don't you understand what you dogmatically preach?
Which part do I not understand?

So my success only occurs on a collective basis and not my own individual efforts? You're forcing inherently lazy people to not be lazy, and it's not going to work the way you think it will.

Some creatures argue Snoop Doggy Dog is the pinnacle of music. I guess Detroit is now also the pinnacle of civilization. QED.

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Capitalism gives the little man the best chance

Excuuuuse meeeee, princess, but i can't hear you over the 24 million people massacred to make shitty music, starvation and failed forms of governance

Retarded. Communism is big government in disguise.

thats what the promis is supposed to be, but it never actually happens in a communist nation

the people just give shit to each other, and in turn get given shit from each other in a self supporting network.

Oi! I'll lay down the concept for capitalism for you.
> you give a service to me and I will give one to you so long as we both agree to it.
> one cannot just take someone else's property without there permission.
> Money is a sign the system owes you a certain amount for the services you provided to it.

classes almost by definition cannot be equal, or else there would be no classes. Its always a vertical hierarchy of classes, either with wealth or relationship to the means of production.

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>Well the Romanovs are wiped out
Due to Haemophilia, the Romanovs would have been wiped out anyway. They had one boy, and like hell he would have been able to reproduce. Probably he would have bled to death from his dick if he had lived to that age and tried.
>countless churches and cathedrals have been levelled
I don't condone this, but the Bolsheviks wanted absolute power. The orthodox church had significant power in Russia and that is why religion was targeted. It's the same reason why China targeted religion.
>Königsberg and former East Germany and Prussia were demolished and converted into grey concrete Stalinist hellholes.
Stalinism is not communism. Communism does not advocate for a cult of personality. It's the opposite.
>You also couldn't speak out against the state or raise arms against the state so that's a small downside as well.
Yeah, because it wasn't communism. Stalinism is dictatorship LARPing as communism. Why is that so hard to understand?

>Why are classes inherently bad?
Where they are classes that control the means of production there will always be oppression from one group to the other
Btw I have no idea what I am talking about

communism is stateless. Therefore big gov =/= communism, in the same sense that any fizzy white wine not from champagne cannot therefore be champagne.

But why would I work under communism if I'm fed and homes for free?

And are you assuming that resources are infinite under communism?

>communism
>people """give""" things to """other people"""
lmao this is laughably stupid. Here is what really happens:
>communism
>faggots with guns steal all your shit
>leave you to starve
>feast on the fruits of their plunders themselves until everything is exhausted and mass starvation and deaths set it

>So purely meritocratic society in which everybody earns the same, but authority belongs to few selected people is okay?
Why can't you cycle the authority between people? Why is it necessary for you to think communism is where some people have power and they hold it idefinitely. That's not communism, that's an oligarchy.

>their culture still seems intact
It’s really not. Communism really fucked up their culture. At least the Orthodox Church might be making a bit of a comeback from what I’ve seen. I would say that what is remaining of Russian culture is still their in spite of the communists

>wtf then who steals the workers fruits of labour?
The workers.

attempts at communism count just as much as communism in your head

>you work because you want to work

Cool. So what do you do for work?

Communism is stateless in the sense that it expands internationally, not in the sense that it doesn't have an authoritarian union (or something of the like) controlling it centrally.

What you're describing is just anarchy where the biggest group of thugs declares themselves communist and steal all your shit and basically run the country. Sounds like a government to me, faggot

its not big gov, its "dictatorship of the proletariat"

not really, technology is more than capable of generating enough for us to live on without having to steal shit. And having a personal surplus of something freely available is utterly pointless.

>where people run behind money

Tha same (((people))) that invented communism, and for the very same reason.

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Oligarchical systems are simply more effective than democracy. Giving people power with no prequisites is just asking for a disaster. Meritocracy > democracy.

capitalism is infinitely more jewed than communism. this is the hardest pill to swallow, Sup Forums, but it's also the most necessary.

>So my success only occurs on a collective basis and not my own individual efforts?
Are you saying you get rewards only if the team succeeds? Not exactly, no. You get rewards based on team performance. But your performance measures are not defined based on your individual efforts, they're defined based on the team's performance.
>You're forcing inherently lazy people to not be lazy, and it's not going to work the way you think it will.
Nobody is really lazy. Evolution doesn't pick lazy people to reproduce.

no thats literally not what "stateless" means. Stateless =/= internationalist, though it is also that.

Communism, for the community, does not exist. Stop shilling for Moses Mordecai.

>being a godless commie
Hell is for ever!

Stealing all of your shit would be pointless, because its freely available. It would be like robbing a local youth centre just to steal all their condoms.

Oh come on that only happened a couple of times. They were starving people in the 30`s too under capitalism. Hell even today they are sectors of the population in capitalist countries were people starve to death.

When do we get to see real capitalism?

>Communism is manhood

Thats a different thing entirely

capitalism is slavery