Each school has 1 highly trained security professional, taken from private sector security or ex military.
The pay of this guy would clearly be cheaper than training several teachers repeatedly for several years and puts them in a position to actually have a good idea of how to protect the school and relay accurate info to the authorities.
When not protecting little shit's lives, they provide opt-in, paying classes in self defence, offsetting the costs of their employment.
Seems a lot more practical than having a state wide shooting convention for teachers.
Charles Powell
mass shootings happen everywhere. Should movie theaters have armed guards? Supermarkets? Coffee shops? get real. The best course of action to take is to ban these weapons, like Australia did. Gun control works.
Hunter Miller
Schools barely have enough money to actually teach kids useful shit anyways, wasting it on some weekend warriors who'd likely run and hide like that sheriff at parkland is laughable. Also just banning semi-auto rifles is easier and upsets gunspergs more :^)
Christopher Ross
society isn't a video game. stop being 16 and go back to pleddit thanks.
Luis Myers
tpbp
James Ortiz
I wasn't suggesting the pay for these guys come out the school budget. After all, it would be political suicide to suddenly take a chunk out of the budget to train teachers as well.
Gabriel Martin
>Camo rifle >Camo everything >Bright blue ball cap covering the top of his head
Why are operators sometimes faggots? This is the dude that beats his wife after going home from the bar.
>Banning semi-auto rifles will stop school shootings Goddamn Liberals are fucking retarded. I'm glad the world gets to repeatedly see how retarded they are.
Blake Walker
all you need is a fucking metal detector like the nog schools have so that urban youths can't kill each other between classes
with that said this was in all likelihood some kind of intelligence agency operation where Cruz was groomed into becoming a school shooter. then they trot out alex jones saying that everyone is a crisis actor to make conspiracy theorists look absurd (Jones is a CIA asset).
Noah Harris
oic, I took the "pay of this guy would be cheaper" part to mean they were still being paid by the school, disregard. Although given a sheriff would typically be considered "highly trained security professional" it doesn't seem as though the one they had for the school was very useful...
>taking the bait kys gunsperg
Nicholas Taylor
> all you need is a fucking metal detector
Oh sorry, I forgot that metal detectors just disintegrate rifles and weaponry on exposure. My bad, of course.
Sebastian Howard
>quasi Stopped reading there
How about raid schools and take all the preteen pussy for ourselves. That's the ONLY sensible option and my Roman ancestors testify.
Angel Stewart
Wasn't the pro-arming teachers side mostly calling it a deterrent rather than active defence?
Sheriff couldn't be there all the time to be the deterrent. The contractor could
Levi Garcia
he was there the day of the shooting though, in which case he was supposed to actually be the active defense lel
Grayson Bailey
If you want an organisation with minimal expense to tax payer while maximising government say over it's policies, budget and duties. Then yeah, quasi-governmental is what you need.
Parker Lopez
pitch it to liberals as a 'defence against the dark arts' teacher
fucking kek
Dominic Gray
Remember when Australia had those 3 Armed men hold up a coffee shop and murder hostages with automatic rifles. Gun control really works.
Owen Richardson
Did banning weed stop people from smoking it?
Bentley Allen
does it happen every 2 months or so now, tho?
Levi Gutierrez
>quasi There's that word again. Nope. Sorry I can't hear you over my hymen bloodlust.
Bentley Sanchez
did banning illegal immigration stop people from immigrating illegally? Obviously we should have no rules regarding anything, because some people will ignore them lulz
Alexander Diaz
What are you gonna do when the chinks attack?
Noah Gray
pseudo-governmental organization.
Chase Cooper
Remember when they shot up the school every week? Oh wait it never happened
Hudson Hughes
if I was Australian I'd call the US, but since I'm an American I'd call the emus
Jonathan Johnson
*schoolgirl hymen bloodlust Let's be real here. Schools only exist to feed girls lots of gmo food, indoctrinate them in hostile communist subject matter, and marry them to the state all the while wasting their precious bodily fluids in fruitless same-age fornication at the very fleeting prime of their attractiveness.
Ethan Morales
have you considered you might just be retarded? Just a thought
Aaron Peterson
> hostile communist subject matter
It's okay to be communist.
Robert Brown
Stop projecting, little narcissist. I'd kill you if you brought your little deranged sociopath antics anywhere near me. Really hurts getting told the truth, huh? Well that's nothing. And I'd rape your entire family.
Hunter Ramirez
perhaps even a non governmental organization? lel
Angel Brown
SO NOW YOU'RE FOR RAISING TAXES TO PAY FOR PRIVATE SECURITY?
Joshua Stewart
so I'm getting the vibe you're actually quite aware and have simply opted to embrace it lel
Jason Rivera
Your cuck mentality is unbelievable. We did this for train security after one (imagine that sweden) girl got molested in train. The autistic screech of left was epic, media was full of Hitler second comings. Gov was forced to start their own security to compete with paramilitia. All you need is funding and volunteers, gov is helpless then.
Aaron Jackson
Better than pissing it away on teachers who would have to juggle training and education.
Jace Watson
before I forget tho
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Jace Jackson
nope
Chase Adams
I pity burgers. Having to worry about defending pupils from Rambo-esque rampages. Really? No one else consider this notion to be bizarre? When I went to school, the most exciting to happen was a kid who got run over by a drunk driver once.
Charles Green
>id kill you for your sociopath behavior
Matthew Nelson
Apparently you don't remember because your facts are totally wrong. It was one man and he killed 2 people with a sawed off shotgun.
Angel Anderson
Given that police over there are more likely to solicit a bribe than protect you from shit, I'm not surprised.
William King
>and rape a bunch of people just for being related to you
Sup Forums is much more magical than /k/ tbqh
Austin James
>schools only exist to feed girls >indoctrinate them >marry them >precious bodily fluids >same-age fornication >activeness
Guess what you are
Eli Robinson
The question was "why not"
Grayson Butler
...john podesta! what do I win
Christian Reyes
how many teachers need to know how to handle a gun to put down a shooter? I bet in most states you have at least 5% if not 25% or more that already do. All that is being proposed is that the school is no longer a gun free zone for faculty and to allow those faculty to carry at school with a ccw.
Joseph Martin
question for sake of it, my turn why yes, user?
Jeremiah Richardson
In the OP, user.
Thomas Ross
can't wait for the "I felt threatended! D:" excuse when one accidentally murderers a gen z fucktard reaching too quick for a calculator.
can't flim flam the zimz-oh wait, the kid was white? Fuck, gotta crucify the teacher then lel
Dylan Campbell
>magical
got that right
Charles Morgan
Another massacre will happen. It could be like the 2014 Peshawar school massacre, where gunmen with assault rifles killed 149 people.
Is that what it will take to ban assault rifles? Why not ban them now and save the lives of all the future victims of these inevitable massacres to come?
Mason Parker
what about it? faggot
Owen Ward
It's pretty funny that I'm even in this thread. Founded on a false premise of media lies. Protecting schools, LOL. Then all the little underage redditors flood in and the narcissistic abuse begins. This place is the dumps. Only useful to study sociopathy. Unfortunately, the younger generation will only become worse in their ignorance. So my premise of killing and raping as many as possible still stands.
Colton Rogers
so you've got ~15% who can handle a gun at an amateur level.
No training for stress, no training for an actual gunfight, just able to handle a gun.
the percentage of those who will actually formulate a plan to protect the kids is even smaller, and the proportion of those who are capable enough to enact it, smaller still.
expected armed teachers would be any use is /k/-tier fantasy.
Joseph Hall
the difference with guns is that if someone is planning to throw their life away in a mass shooting they have no way of getting away with then it wont matter to them if they’re getting their guns illegaly or not.
Adam James
well you can't just buy an assault rifle at a Walmart in the US at least...pretty soon we'll be giving them out to kids after a crazy, armed teacher gets sick of their gen z fuckwits and ices a bunch though.
Mason Richardson
You need help
Brandon Gray
You've got to use that thing your under-armed kindergarten teacher taught you, reading.
Kevin Scott
this is something only cops do, because they arnt required to live up to the same laws they serve to enforce.
James Perez
>then it wont matter to them if they’re getting their guns illegaly or not.
.. apart from the fact that illegal guns tend to sell for an order of magnitude or two more than legal one's.
Jose Perry
all of your criticisms could as easily be leveled against the shooter.
Jordan Price
>use that thing >kindergarten teacher taught you
What did they do to you, user?
Gabriel Garcia
shooter doesn't have to protect shit, he's just shooting anything he sees.
Ryan Gomez
the difference with illegal immigration is that if someone is planning to do everything possible to improve their life/their familys lives by immigrating and have nothing to lose by leaving their shithole home, it won't matter to them if they’re getting into the US illegaly or not.
so therefore we should leave the restrictions on immigration as is! :D
Lucas Lopez
>he's just shooting anything he sees.
like you in this thread :D
Angel Rodriguez
you know where we are right
Jonathan Martinez
Okay, I laughed.
Michael Anderson
>ptsd guy with a gun around little children what could go wrong
Xavier Cook
that won't stop a teacher who accidentally perforates a preschooler or w/e from trying it
Chase Sanchez
>be lil shit >walk up behind rambo in the hallway >kill rambo >kill the rest of my classmates
excellent school protection!
Noah Rodriguez
>:D
looks like a very magical thread, fellows ;)
Jaxson Bell
its the shot that counts
Colton Gutierrez
*BAM* *BAM* *BAM*
that's me shooting down both con-cuck and lib-cuck arguments.
Anthony Morales
I think you mean cancervative and libtard m80, overusing anything-cuck trivializes the term (same goes for soy-anything)
Noah Sullivan
>*BAM* *BAM* *BAM*
>thats me shooting
cops are in this thread though :D
Jace Harris
lel, you must be from /k/
Tyler Howard
and i helped them catch yooou :D
Bentley Butler
you mean, they're waiting outside instead of charging in?
Easton Wood
> be rambo > perform occular pat down on lil shit > threat assessed, pack M16 with bump stock, night vision and double extended magazines > day saved
Isaac Morales
of course Sup Forums's mods turn this into a pedo thread
Thomas Fisher
im just training
Bentley Hall
>school shooter walks up and shoots rambo in the back first with gun bought at Walmart >takes bump stock M16, night vision, and overpriced sperg mags >shoots even more people
"BUT IT'S THA MENTAL ILLNESSSSSS"
Carter King
the teacher's job isnt to white knight for the entire school. its a deterant. - if you're the shooter you're going to die too - you wont get as far as you wanted to and it interrupts the shooters decision cycle which would otherwise be unimpeded. disrupting, delaying and hopefully destroying the threat. because like you said, having no plan, no training and no ability to deal with adversity.. is a problem.
Josiah Edwards
roger that, cya
Jonathan Kelly
1 man patting down every little boy and girl in the entire school every single day
Cameron Anderson
The facts don't fit his narrative.
Gabriel Brooks
your right, they should close high schools. I could teach them and feed the girls >with muh dick
Jose Thomas
> I'm Sorry > It's My Fault > What Can I Do To Make Them Right?
Jason Cooper
> a preschooler or w/e from trying it no idea what this means accidents involving CCW holders are extremely rare. rarer than mass shootings, but probably not more rare than mass school shootings.
Henry Reyes
...now im learning
you really.. taught me something here user
Wyatt Rodriguez
Why not just let the teachers that are gun people carry their guns? Hickok45 comes to mind as well as the fact that I personally know two former Army SF guys that are now school teachers. If a fucking Army Green Beret with multiple combat deployments isn't qualified to defend a classroom of children from an armed child than there are none who are.
Xavier Collins
Failed joke about California. Should remember to attach an image.
Owen Nelson
but then theyll be deported when theyre found out, which is all we can do atm
Nathaniel Brooks
I was going for the alliteration bonus points m80, it was referring to a CCW teacher mistakenly shooting a kid because they felt threatened though (not because they dropped it and it accidentally fired, for instance)
Think more Zimzam and less Cheney, although I suppose it's possible a teacher might mistake a student for a bird with how desperate the education is for anyone with a pulse atm.
Michael Gomez
theres still guns everywhere that people arent going to just give up, also illegal guns are easier to get because theres no testing involved
Colton Turner
Because doing that involves uncontrolled liability.
You're there isn't an ex green beret teacher in every school, so just assuming letting them take in guns is going to turn out fine with their own hobby training is foolish.
Justin Ortiz
what could go wrong
Angel Ortiz
All we can do with a mass shooter is shoot them after they've started, and hope they didn't kill too many folks. Even better, the deportees can keep retrying to cross the border. Like I said, new regulations are absolutely pointless!
Ian Ross
Guns are like healthcare.
If you really, really want, you'll get it, regardless of the price.
Jacob White
what if we shoot the deportees?
Christian Sanchez
but none of this removes the bumped up cost factor, which is itself quite a deterrent from someone who wants (but can't get) a gun. They'll just use a truck or frying pan instead lel
Connor Kelly
why were there not really any school shootings back in the day when schools had rifle classes? the culture is the problem not the guns.