He did more good for the universe than bad

The sayians were the most brutal savage race in the universe. If Frieza didnt blow them the fuck up they would have gotten stronger and overthrown Frieza. They would have wreaked havoc on every planet they could find. They would have committed genocide for fun. At least Frieza only committed genocide for calculating reasons. If he didnt blow up Planet Vegeta, the universe would have been fucked forever
>Inb4 "but muh Beerus retcon"

The Saiyans were dumbass monkeys who couldn't leave the planet without his tech

The only reason they even got off their planet was because of frieza, but killing them wasnt exactly wrong.

Also Beerus is a lazy shit that canonically does nothing so there is no muh beerus retcon

I'm pretty sure that most if them would've been integrated into the plot and turned good. Toei has been making them look good progressively over the years. Just look at Bardock. He went from unrepentant mass murderer, to anti-hero, to working class family man thanks to the popularity of the first movie.

Why didn't they use the Dragon Balls?

He says in super that he would have destroyed the sayians himself if Frieza wasnt up to task. Thats what i was talking about.

Bardock was a rare case, and he only became good because of his schizo future visions.

He would have never had to if freiza didnt give them equipment.

Freeza is best Dragon Ball waifu and did nothing wrong.

They only did what frieza told them to do.

Not to mention them being destroyed didnt stop frieza from genociding as usual

they left Planet Sadal before invading the newly named Planet Vegeta ya dummy.

Minus is more canon than Toei's tv special.

>he became good

god fucking damnit, american dbz fans are fucking cancer.
he never became good.
stop putting in your shitty black-white narrative into everything because your shitty dub shoehorned this retarded shit into the whole series.

how do you explain U6 saiyans then?

>turned good
just because you're a people of barbarians doesn't mean you're "bad".
f.e.: sure, the vikings raided villages, but they weren't "bad" per se.

>shitty dub

Still manages to be better than the awful jap audio at least.

Minus sucks.

Minus sucks because it retconned the saiyans into being anything but inherently evil while turning Bardock into a loving father. The dub produced a nice middle ground between the two extremes and gave Bardock a character arc in the process.

If Frieza didn't go around killing the universe's warrior races then U7 might have had a chance at being exempt from the ToP

>The only reason they even got off their planet was because of frieza
They already had the tech to invade planets, their whole backstory is that they killed their more intellectual people, stole their tech and left Planet Sadal when it blew up, invading another planets which would go on to be called Planet Vegeta.

>Minus sucks.
Doen't make it less canon.

Vegeta is the only full blooded Saiyan who managed to attain "not complete asshole" status without significant head trauma. He should have been the main character in Z.

Why didn't they just let him get immortality then use the dragon balls to make him not immortal?

Vegecucks never cease to amaze with their delusions about Vegeta deserving to be on the spotlight for anything.

Minus is shit
Fuck you you nu-male cocksucker, if it wasn't for Toei's special we wouldn't even have gotten Bardock in the first place

No it doesn't. Just because you grew up with it doesn't mean it's good you fucking baby.

Much immortality
Very dragon ball
Wow.

Anything outside of the original 42 volumes is non-canon
Fuck Toriyama and his retcons at this point I'm never going to accept them

Vegeta should have stayed dead
He became a total cuck after he got revived

You faggots who actually like post-Freeza saga Vegeta are not true Vegeta fans

By that logic Hitler is good because he killed jews

>killed their more intellectual people, stole their tech and left Planet Sadal when it blew up,

Frieza was at least right about one thing: the saiyans really are savages.

>That one scene where Vegeta admits to being a cuck

Kek.

He's a hollow man now

He wasn't good because there's still 99% left

The english dub is shit, get off the nostalgia goggles. The changed dialogues are fucking atrocious, and don't make me started with the shitty soundtrack.

This

He was bad because he didn't do it.

The Vikings were evil.

Vegeta literally had to die first, like pointed out.

Reminder that he's a piece of perfection.