Why is a white ethnostate not possible?

Why is a white ethnostate not possible, Israel has one in a desert, and the U.S. pays for it. Nobody can offer a reason why it cant happen so..what say the skeptics?

Its because white people would rather die slow painful deaths while trying to 1 up one another on whos the biggest moral cuck.

The Jews and mutts want us to think it is impossible.

It is possible, just not in America with all of the 56'ers hanging around

Interesting digits.

The primary reason is because so many white nationalists are homosexuals and won't be able to reproduce to create a viable state.

The reason Israel is aloud to exist is because the U.S wills it. In order to exist as a ethno-state you need a few things.
1. A very power friend to say you are aloud to exist. If you got that your fine you don't need to read the rest but if you don't keep reading
2. An army to claim a piece of land, and able to hold said piece of land against those who disagree with your claim.
3. Natural resources as if you can manage to hold that land who'll trade with you if you just fought off the world?
4.A large amount of wealth to pay your army
5.A very homogeneous group
6.Nukes, to keep the rest of the world at bay.
The rest is sorted out by those who live here. As of right now NO white ethno state is possible because all those who want one lack those 5 points.

Too many nonwhites. If the South listened to Lincoln's plan (compensated emancipation for slaves, then send the slaves back to Africa) maybe it would've had a shot.

i'd prefer one state with numerous ethno-cities

Where is it possible? Canada? No you are the U.S's thrall like it or not. If a white ethno-state started up in the Yukon you can bet it would be stopped before the idea of nationhood even came up.

ditto

Where exactly is it possible?

You destroyed it.

all the european states will once again be ethnostates once the africans arabs and jews are mass deported
its only a matter of time before the world burns or the deportations commence
hopefully it can be done without bloodshed

I'd argue that the majority of whites simply don't want one. They are happy with the false illusion they live in. What would a normal person pick, a hard helish life full of truths or a peaceful easy life where everything is a lie but you don't know it's a lie.

No they won't Europe is doomed. As soon as those flood gates opened there is no closing it.

>tfw your grandparents generation fought to enslave the entire planet to the (((international banking cartel)))

feelsbadman

I'd say Hitler had a good intentional idea but what was his plans twenty-thirty years after he destroyed Russia? Does anyone know? I know he wanted a perfect city but what about realistic goals?

The whole US political and economical apparatus is in full support of Israel's etho nationalism, both left and right, democrats and republicans.

If this tells you anything it tells you you need to to control the whole Western world's influence to get a small ethno state in MENA.

It can be done peacefully if Western whites immigrated to Eastern Europe and joined force and lobbied for their interest but the alt-right leaders won't call for something realistic like that since they are there only for money and fame.

because none of you fuckers will move

>They are happy with the false illusion they live in. What would a normal person pick, a hard helish life full of truths or a peaceful easy life where everything is a lie but you don't know it's a lie.
ftfy:
>They are happy with the contended and harmonious life they live in. What would a normal person pick, a hard hellish life full of bigoted homosexual or a peaceful easy life where you don't have to embrace the retarded politics of the angry and under-educated.

You don't have special, sage insights, user. You've simply embraced a fringe position that most people know is retarded. This doesn't make you a genius; it makes you very different.

Kek

>its only a matter of time
Topkek. No, they're here to stay (those who avert the rat race). Europe might purify once more, but it will be a long and *very* complicated process.

>Israel has one
Why not relocate to Israel?

In an ideal world where everyone is perfect and understands the truth sure it can be done peaceful, but what about the East, I'm sure a bunch of Poles, Serbs, Hungarians etc etc wouldn't be to happy to share their countries with the same people who destroyed the west and flooded it with shit. The white race is very divided and has been since the fall of Rome, I highly doubt a bunch of French, Brits, and Germans wouldn't be too happy to take orders from a Pole or Estonian.

It is possible. But only if we get another, better Hitler to actually gas jews and commies

It's not possible because hordes of people, even white people, would fight tooth and nail against it.

I choose the happy easy life desu senpai but it doesn't take a genius to see a white ethno-state in today's time is impossible due to the very nature of today's man.

South Africa 2019

1000 year golden age and end of kali yuga. Alas the kosmic universe denied that fate, and the time line is destroyed.

How did he plan to achieve that?

You have several ethnostates in eastern europe.

Reverting society to the primordial Vedic religion
basically European Hinduism

Why is a white ethnostate possible?

You'll see nigger if you're alive to see!

Please go on, I'm genuinely curious about his after-math plans. I know Hitler despised communism but after-wards how did he plan to deal with the U.K/U.S alliance. Did he plan to just move underground to survive the bombings? Hitler must of known the U.S intervening was bound to happen but what was his plan to deal with it? Did he even have one?

Because it'll balkanize your country and basically destroy it to the joy of America's enemies you ignorant low life baboons. If you Amerimutts don't start working together you're dead as a country. A civil/race war is in your future if you don't change course.

Not a nigger but I am a mutt, so have no fear your half right but still where is he possible? Where in the world can a group of 100% white people move to, raise enough arms and resources and then hold off the entire world?

There are 320 million lawful Americans in the US. That doesn't include immigrants, and it also doesn't include illegal immigrants.
So thats about 40 million blacks and 60 million beans. 100 million in just beans and blacks.
Can you briefly explain to me how you would go about the physical removal of over 100 million people? And this is assuming all whites would be 100% on board and militant, which is a laughable idea in itself

Entho-nationalist are a weird bunch who can never seem to answer this part of the question.

Isreal doesnt have an ethostate dude. There are a bunch of jews from africa as well as arabs and shit.

I know I ask it every time and I usually don't even get a response.
Ethnostate is just a fantasy, sadly. Best we can do is align the muds to a productive philosophy

How is Israel an ethnostate in any way shape or form?

That's all it is, it was a very real idea a few hundred years ago but in today's world it's simply too barbaric to carry out. The end goal is really what we all want. A stable homogeneous state that can project it's power and ideas on a world stage, but to get there requires the deaths, deportation, and restriction to hundreds of millions of people. Even if the purest whites in the world (Which i'm guessing make up maybe...10%? of the world population decided to start this, they would be out numbered, outgunned, and frankly fucked before they even marched to the first city to cleanse.

>the gun is on the table. You just have to pick it up.
For White people victory would be easy. The problem is convincing them to actually take their own side.

We just have to build consensus and nothing can stop us
White people would easily win if we all united. Nobody would stand a chance.

Victory would be as easy as flipping a coin if you could some how manage to convince the entire 100% (including mutts because you need them to fight) to join the side of the ethno-state but how do do that?

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That's never been the issue. The issue is in order to achieve said ethno-state you need to unite 100% of white people (including mutts because we all believe we are white) so how do you do that? What happens when the ethno-state becomes divided from the pure whites to the mix bloods?

Literally anywhere. But most likely in the white-supermajority Northwest states like Montana and Idaho.

How do you know you’re not talking to a Russian agitator?

Because white women will not be part of it.

When the world comes knocking to destroy the little ethno-state how will you defend it?

Don't give me that nonsense.
How would you physically remove 100 million people?

The real utopian fantasy is an Islamic, Afro-Mestizo multi cultural society. Red pilling White people is the only way forward. Its that or condemn or children and people to a slow guilt ridden death.

>ethnostate
dude, do you even wikipedia?

Which numbers are divisible by 2?
All of them.
Where is a white ethnostate possible?
Everywhere.

This is a bigger threat to the sovereignty of many countries than any radical Muslim groups.
The fbi/cia must intervene before its to late.

Whites are too empathetic. You could even fucking leave the planet behind, go to fucking Mars or somewhere and have a white utopia. But at some point or other, eventually no matter what, some whites in the society are going to see or hear about non whites having it hard somewhere, and want to help them out, and invite them in.

Indians have 65 million sovereign acres.
molokai is only for Hawaiins
PR is for Latinos
The USVI is for blacks.
Why should white peeple have their own place?
Yakub built them and then they used tricknology , so they deserve nothing.

Ask the Amerindians.

You don't need to convince "100% of whites" just enough to form their own state. And those "spooky purity spirals" won't happen. Just get everybody on board with no full spics, Jews and niggers and the state would be fine. The people who want an ethnostate just want life to be easier, not have to suck nigger dick because society wants them to. Focusing on "muh purity" is just excess work, which is exactly what we want to avoid.

That took place over the course of hundreds of years that mostly a plague took care of the real work.

Earn some money, it's called a gated community. The gnomic jews can come but they are ugly and easily identified.

Okay that's great but what is the plan for when a much bigger nation shows up and demands you surrender?

North America was until all those Amerindians arrived from Siberia and took over.

At that time it took 12 weeks to cross the continent.
In 1945 it took .6 seconds to kill 150000 Japanese.

Well its starts by building consensus. Once you have that we can do anything from freedom of association laws, ending welfare and all diversity quotas. We can pay them to leave. We can force them to leave.

The more things go to shit, our moral case for physical removal will be strengthened. At a certain point you will be monster for letting them stay if the west stays on this course.

Lastly, If your argument is. "thats too hard" you are just a fag

So you're suggesting we should just drop atomic bombs on our own soil because we don't like brown people.

Because he's probably not. There has been a mass awakening of white Americans who see niggers for how useless they are and just wants that bullshit out of their life.

The push for a white ethnostate is a directly result from increasing minority solidarity from the American (((elite))). They should be the ones getting yelled at, not the ones who they've backed into a corner.

I agree that any push for a white ethnostate would balkanize and destroy America, but you have to understand the people pushing for it are over the American multicultural experiment. The only thing that the experiment proved was that people CAN become something greater by coalescing, but only to an extent - that extent being race. An openly multi-racial society will always balkanize and splinter as people feel their reputation and respect sinking to new lows.

Shit thread.

Fuck off back to TRS, shill

i think america is too diverse and if you pay attention to american posters nearly everyone here wants to marry a non-white woman so i'd say america as a white country is an idea dead in the water. 56% will turn into 46% and so on, eventually we'll all be ogras and creaturas, no stopping that.

ethnostates could easily be accomplished though in any of the european countries, maybe even australia as they seem to care about race more than any of the other new world nations

also israel at this point isn't an ethnostate, it is only 75% jewish and even jews are a mixed bag, you have ashkenazi (white) jews, mizrahi (middle eastern) jews, and even black jews

What does Hiroshima look like?
What does Detroit, St. Louis, Baltimore look like?

I dont wanna do it either but there is a pretty strong argument for niggers ruining your country more than atomic bombs.

Can you be more specific than "build consensus"
In the last election the Leftists actually had more voter turnout. Trump won through the electoral college system. Doesn't that represent that the people would be unable to form a consensus on something like ethnic genocide?
And you would need more than a 51% majority to do something like that kek

So you're meming or a sociopath thats cool

I've manage to bait you into brutal thoughts.
You've made inferences from short memes.
You're so fucking easy to manipulate.
Imagine how easy the media fucks with your head.

I'll agree it's most likely for the better but not everyday people have access to those types of weapons, so what's the plan to get there? How do we turn an entire population against one another to the point where nuking the browns is an accepted idea.

I mean obviously this is what this will come to. This is why an actual race war is getting more and more likely by the hour. This is why we need to shut off immigration from non-European COMPLETELY as soon as possible, or else major acts of violence will play out.

That and lay off the nigger worship in media.

Certain areas of Baltimore already look like they were hit by nukes.

i say we have two options, either

1. we figure out how to make multiracialism work through civic nationalism. and if this doesn't work then,

2. the country will split up into smaller countries, likely along the ethnic lines

but i don't want to lose america, and as long as america stays united there is no room for ethnic states, sorry pal

I suppose it "can" happen. It won't happen in 'Murica. Nevermind the minorities that oppose it, more than half the whites oppose it. That's why.

As long as the jews are in place shutting off immigrating from non-europe is gonna be harder to do then finding a black girls father.

Hardline immigration reform that favors only white europeans would be how you do it. No force required as a lot of the shitskins would just leave of their own accord if they recognize that this system will no longer benefit them. The ones that don't leave will have to peacefully assimilate or they're going to have a difficult time.

This is how I've always envisioned the ethnostate anyway. I've never seen it as a 100% white country

Turn off the welfare spigot except in certain places. Cali and Mississippi. Provide free bussing

A great economic collapse also.

In-group preference is instinctual.
Civic Nationalism is programmed through acculturation, socialization and education.

One of these is stronger than the other.

Brutal thoughts? You fucking retard I watch gore for kicks.
You're just saying edgy shit instead of admitting your too stupid to describe how to go about creating an ethnostate.

It can happen in some middle of Asia nation that no one really cares or knows about but how many people have the funds to pack up and leave everything they have ever know to go try to build a nation in the middle of no-where. It does happen but in today's world the white man is a lazy docile creature for the most part.

Projection.

That's a great idea but that'll never happen the jews simply can not let such an idea happen it would be something akin to war for them because they it's part of the final solution towards them. We have to figure out a way to remove them first then ethno-state I feel.

No I agree, I want America to be saved. But it won't be saved at this rate, it'll just become another Brazil.

I mean only 60 years ago America was a defacto ethnostate with an 80% white majority. The America that we've come to know and love was a direct result of a pan-European cultures coming together and forming a culture whose power, innovation and influence were unwatched in human history. It wasn't like the USA was founded by various African or Native peoples, they just happened to live here.

It's also funny how you say that America has "no room for ethno-states" when states like Montana, Idaho and the Dakotas already essentially are.

why can't we just have a tiki party?

Its already happening dont be foolish. A lot is gonna change when the boomers die too. We are counting on Gen Z.
Shit does not look good. Sure we are probably just going to fade away. Doesn't mean we are going to go away without a fight.

how could you say montana, idaho, or the dakotas are ethnic states? the dakotas have several native americans, and idaho is getting a lot of hispanics who have moved there, some counties in idaho are over 30% hispanic.

Gen. Z right now is in it's rebellious phase. I don't think we can count on them for anything till we see the kinds of adult's they'll be. I agree though it's not looking good at all.

That's far more reasonable that these yokels talking about genocide. Let me clarify that I'm not against the idea,
I believe we are too far gone to just kick out the non whites. They are too far entrenched in our society. The best we can do is align the shitskins to a more productive ideology than identity politics.
Luckily the American identity is Civic. This is the result of all the various European groups coming together while maintaining their own heritage. Blacks and Mexicans can be patriotic Americans but we have to find a way to detach them from the kike zeitgeist

National Transhumanism

It doesn't work. This is known. People naturally self segregate. Diversity destroys communities it is known. Different cultures have different ideas on government. This is not a big deal as long as the majority are small government people. If a big government ethnic group gets a majority it is very dangerous for minorities as most groups except Western whites are ethocentric not humanitarian.

We are about to watch Rhodesia 2.0 and people still think non-whites can be humanitarian. They can't even remember a lesson from a couple decades ago.

Because the USA has adhered to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (1966). Israel is being condemned all the time by the UN. You want to shit on the UN's bed go right ahead, it's your loss.

How exactly do you propose we move billions of people out of the United States? Not only is it not practical, it's not moral either. On top of that, nobody fucking wants one except the fags on this board.

>several native americans
>"OY VEY GOY FOREIGN ILLEGALS MOVED TO YOUR LAND THAT MEANS IT'S THEIR LAND NOW"

gas yourself before you get gassed, kike

White people as a group are too individualistic to take to collectivist ideas, and I don't think changing that would be optimal.

if in group preference is instinctual, why have american whites become so deracinated? i'd say most whites here are a lot more open to civic nationalism or conservatism than ethnostates

in fact it seems to me that minorities are the ones with strong in group preferences, but i feel a lot of that is because we don't do enough to assimilate them, conservatives have let the democrats control the culture so long through media, schools, and other institutions.

we have to make it clear to minorities that ethnocentrism would not be acceptable upon moving here. they'd have to stop seeing themselves as black, brown, or whatever, and recognize all americans as their brothers. a strong conservative culture would emphasize that.