How are we going to deal with an entire generation of sexually frustrated men...

How are we going to deal with an entire generation of sexually frustrated men? Hate MGTOW shit but it seems like the 80/20 rule is true. I have dry spells that last for months and that is enough to drive me bananas but then I remember there are a ton of guys my age who are virgins or might as well be. How will this effect our society

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I'm a 29 year old Virgin and plan to die a Virgin but If I were to guess the effect it would be a burning unbridled rage.

Get in a long term relationship and 'dry spells' will be a thing of the past.

You're part of the problem bud.

The 80/20 rule is a direct result of patriarchy. Only those men who meet the most cartoonish stereotypes of masculinity are rewarded.

It's counterproductive to attack feminists one moment, and then castigate "alpha" males in the next. Do you want to alter the absurd parameters for "being a man" you know you will never reach? Then smash that notion of masculinity. Become a feminist.

I understand, by the way, that this pill is too red for anyone to swallow. But I'm trying to reason with you specifically OP. Hit me with any questions.

The 20/80 thing is true. Although, it’s more like 5/60. It’s been wired into our bilogy for millions of years. Women are always the picky ones when it comes to sex, since they can only have about 8 offspring in their lifetime, while males can have virtually infinite. We need a cultural shift to fix the problem. Our society is lazy, nihilistic, social Marxists, etc

chicken legs

I can't say I blame him, there's a ton of women out there that you would never in a million years want to date. Most females nowadays are shallow af and instagram obsessed

>29 year old Virgin [sic]
>Nazi flag

Weeeeird.

Female chimps are not as picky as human females.

Why?

>80/20 rule
I've heard it before but forget the exact wording, remind me again what this rule is precisely.

[citation needed]

Aww look guys, it’s retarded

Look at all these betas.

Start lifting. Women get wet for a big bicep

>How are we going to deal with an entire generation of sexually frustrated men?
Turn them into soldiers. Soldiers of an information war.

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Being A Virgin Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Get A Girlfriend Like Nigga Stop Being A Pussy Haha

>I've fucked more 50 girls in less than 5 years, that's around 10 per year, it's not that much.

Just work on yourself to become that 20%

Work out, get friends, go out, act the part and get laid.
It's not fucking rocket science.

>the problem is wired in our bilogy [sic] for millions of years
>the solution is to get rid of social Marxists

Marx was born less than three-hundred years ago. How can you say the problem is rooted in a billion-year-old process and that the problem is Marx? Both of these things cannot be true at the same time. Either the problem is "bilogical" or it is socially engineered by whoever and whatever social Marxists are (this is not a thing, by the way).

I want you to understand that you suffer from sloppy thinking. You are letting people manipulate you. Rational people do not commit embarrassing logical fallacies like this.

The top 20% of guys can find sexual partners rather easily while the rest have to go through a ton of hurdles, some not being able to find a partner at all

Lol nah. I dieted to drop down to 120 lbs from 140, got my eyebrows done, waxed all my body hair, started wearing make-up and androgynous clothes, and I absolutely slay bi girls in threesomes now. The ultimate redpill is to become a pretty boy.

> when chad can't fuck as many women and starts to get nervous
Fuck you chad enjoy

kys shill

>it’s more like 5/60
what about the other 35?

>The 80/20 rule is a direct result of patriarchy.
Are you retarded? The 80/20 rule has to do with nature, as in if left to their true nature 80% of women would flock to the top 20% of men. This is seen in our DNA data where only 40% of men and 80% of women have ever had children historically. But that's through the entire history of humans going back over 100,000 years. It was only in the last 10,000 years when we developed agriculture that patriarchy came into play. The 80/20 rule actually got worse at the start of the neolithic revolution to the point where the rates of reproduction were something like 17 women having kids for every 1 man. But after the beta revolution, patriarchy was brought in and monogamous marriage was invented, so most beta men could get a wife and work to support building civilization.

virgins

>How will this effect our society
These are world demographics. What do you think will happen here?

>Most females nowadays are shallow af and instagram obsessed
You are just talking about the fuckable ones.
The rest are obese or otherwise undesirable

America will look like Detroit in every city when this happens. Racism aside, it's the truth and it doesn't matter what you believe.

Shit! Unironically inspiring user.

I am down 25 ibs with about 15 more to go. I have also started dressing alot better. I am gonna make it happen.

You’re not understanding my point, or I did a bad job elaborating. The evolution part is why social Marxism is a problem. It goes against the grain of nature. The idea we’re are equal is a problem. People need to be humble and respect people who are clearly in superior roles. Like people shit talk Trump, and he’s a billionaire and a president. Homeless people get the same amount of voting power as wealthy and smart people. Etc

I'm pretty much a failed Chad who can trick some women into thinking I'm Chad. I have 0 friends but in settings like clubs this helped me out because I don't have much social inhibitions so even if im a little cringy the girls are drunk and having a enough time that it doesn't bother them

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>the military success of a country depends on its adherence to "chaste" sexual norms

Can't believe I read all of that text when it's premise was so obviously untrue. Unwin was writing in the 30s, so he couldn't know the United States would simultaneously have a powerful military and lax attitudes about sex, but how the hell did he explain the Mongols? The Ottoman Empire? The unprecedented success of lusty bisexual Alexander the Great?

The data points - normative attitudes toward sex and military might - do not correlate. Bad argument.

>How are we going to deal with an entire generation of sexually frustrated men?
If you want to deal with the frustration itself, sex dolls and porn will take the fire out of them.

Depends what you mean by deal, doesn't it.

manlet confirmed

>How will this effect our society
Who knows? They made their bed. They can lie in it. I have no responsibility to uphold this sinking ship.
Taught myself how to have male multiple orgasms without porn and no longer feel the need to court a woman. The orgasms I've had doing my new technique rival the intensity of sex with my first gf and are infinitely better than hookups. That drive is fully satisfied by myself now. Gone are the days of seeking out women.

Care to share, user

I've snagged myself a young, gorgeous white girl who was a virgin when we started dating. Despite having her and not being an incel before her I understand and support mgtows.

Passing out the pussy is a cornerstone of civilization, you let women have any freedom and we will return to pre civilization. Don't like it? lol deal with it

MGTOW is stupid but so is getting with white women.
Pay hookers for sex.
Pay a rent a womb to make kids for you.
Bam all the 14 with none of the roasties taking your kids and monies.
In my last job, my boss made twice as much as me and paid more than half to CS.
MFW I made more than my boss because he pays more than I make in CS.

Is degeneracy this bad in America? How is staying a virgin bad? It should be normal, people used to save themselves for marriage.

pin.primate.wisc.edu/factsheets/entry/chimpanzee/behav
>The majority of chimpanzee reproductive behavior is promiscuous, with females mating with multiple males opportunistically during estrus, though the majority of copulation occurs during the 10-day period of maximal tumescence (Goodall 1986).
eva.mpg.de/documents/Springer/Stumpf_Promiscuous_BehEcolSocio_2005_1555339.pdf
>Mate selectivity should be particularly important for female chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes), because of their extensive investment in offspring and limited reproduc- tive potential. Chimpanzee inter-birth intervals average 4–6 years, infants have prolonged maternal dependence, and average female lifetime production of surviving off- spring is below five (Tutin 1979; Goodall 1986; Nishida et al. 1990). However, contrary to this expectation, chimpanzee females do not seem particularly selective. Females mate with many males over the course of estrus, resulting in hundreds of copulations per conception (Tutin 1979; Hasegawa and Hiraiwa-Hasegawa 1990).

She needs to get that mole removed before it becomes cancerous.

Realistic sex dolls aren't ready yet, and porn can only do so much. This is the reason they want to take away guns. They don't want guys that lose out in this new system to just say fuck it and flip over the game board.

>The 80/20 rule is a direct result of patriarchy.

The 80/20 rule is a direct results of the DECLINE of patriarchy

What happens in the "state of nature"? Women reproduce with either (a) whoever is alpha enough to attract them or (b) whoever is bad enough to rape them. Everyone else jacks off to some cave painting titties

What happens in a patriarchy? Men enforce rules on who a woman is allowed to have sex with under what circumstances. Monogamous patriarchies turn the 80/20 into a near perfect 50/50. Polygynous patriarchies reinforce the 80/20 rule but at least formalize it in a way that prevents conflict (I'm not going to covet your wife if it's going to get us both executed)

I'm 28, never had sex and I've tried dating couple of times. I don't know if it's for me, I'm not really drawn to sex but companionship, and I got good male friends for that. Women don't really make that good friends and hobby partners. I don't believe I'm asexual or closeted homo, I've just never felt that passionate about the other gender and I've always had troubles connecting with them if they're not relatives. I admit I used to be really depressed about it and thinking of what I'm missing out, but actually trying to get some of it and realizing I'm not motivated even when I had a chance pretty much took the craving away.

You'd never fucking believe it. You never would.

>that pic
Imagine what we could do with Africa, if all the niggers and jews were to suddenly drop dead.
Designer virus when?

Do your own thing user, no pressure. Only women pressure you about getting a woman. Fuck em. You do you.

This pretty normal. Women have no humour and have boring hobbies to pass time. However, they are sweet and cuddling with a qt on the couch is amazing. I know it sounds cheesy and faggy but it is true.

So you agree with feminists that patriarchy is not the "state of nature," or, in other words, that patriarchy is not natural?

"I am convinced they have no conception of the future"

That is actually CORRECT. They literally do not, its not in their brain structure. Its not IN THEIR LANGUAGE

amren.com/ar/2009/02/

The only exception are Americanized and European Blacks, they are a little bit smarter than the ones still in Africa.

>appeal to nature

>do kegels five minutes a day
>use lotion or fleshlight
>get aroused
>self stimulate
>reverse kegel (think taking a shit) when you feel close to nut to hold off and delay ejac
>do each fap sesh for ten minutes minimum
>close your eyes and focus more on sensation than on sexy thoughts
>sexy thoughts can be used to jump start you but shift focus to sensation
>end
Come out of it feeling refreshed, invigorated and even have the post sex afterglow people have after the act. My overall mood is also better than ever. The drawback is that I no longer care enough to have sex with anyone, but in this social climate, it's more of a benefit than anything else I think.

>Realistic sex dolls aren't ready yet
See her face?
She can't believe you just told such a disingenuous lie

Guns are just a pre-made solution. An uneducated populate is also important, because it's real easy to raise hell with some simple chemistry.

*Line of porkies
one bottle ammonia, one bottle bleach tied together
Throw.

fat girls

>get friends, go out
This is literally all thats required to get laid. More then anything you need a social group to belong too, once you got that, just showing up at a bar is enough to bone someone. You wont always walk home with someone, but if you actively hit the ladies up once you're there, invite em back to your table and show em a good time. Its about 50/50, and these usually lead to relationships if your groups like eachother.

Patriarchy helps the top females and average males by restricting the top males from having multiple partners, so they pursue the top females instead of accepting the average females who pursue them, and the average females they then reject are forced to accept average males as partners.

The top males gain loyalty from the average males, who now have something to gain from working and fighting together with the top males, instead of constantly infighting to end up as one of the top males with access to partners.

The birth control pilled killed this because now top men can have sex with the average women who pursue them without getting them pregnant. In the old days, if you had premarital sex, you usually got pregnant and you usually got married. Now Chad doesn't have to be as careful about how he gets his dick wet because he won't be pressured into providing for his offspring and the mother, and delusional average woman, because Chad now lets himself be seduced by him, are continually holding out, hoping to lock down Chad.

oh god, r9k is leaking

No, I'm not appealing to nature. I don't think patriarchy is natural. This is one of the ideological innovations of feminism: that male domination is rooted in historical and social circumstances, not biological ones.

Most people who support patriarchy appeal to nature, which is why I was surprised to read the Japanese user's take, which seems to unwittingly endorse a feminist worldview.

This is disgusting and you should feel embarrassed.

>be me
>go to bars and clubs alone
>girls buy me drink and try to get me to come home with them
It's good to be the king.

Have you not posted on Sup Forums the last year or two? /r9k/ is always leaking here

Wtf is this? Are you pretending to be a woman?

Its just pussy man.
Dont put all your thing in getting pussy,there is much more to life.

What society?

must be the time of night.

I dont get why people obsess so much over fucking girls, what do they do with the other 23 hours, and 50 minutes of their day?

How, exactly? Do you just walk up to strangers or do you stand awkwardly in a corner until they approach you? This sounds sketchy.

I don't. I feel better than ever.
lel wut? Not at all. Unsure how you got that.

>most of Sup Forums will die virgins.

yes please

...

What exactly is the reason you visit Sup Forums? I don’t mean to be insulting but for me the hate against degeneracy was a good reason. Yet you must have other reasons.

I wonder if arranged marriages are the reason why Indians are docile..

>birth control caused the 80/20 divide

Why is Sup Forums so susceptible to the most fallacious, ahistorical thinking? Did King Solomon have birth control? Did Sultan Suleiman? Ghengis Khan?

Patriarchy has always promoted a polygamous model in which the strongest men retain access to the largest pool of women.

I really want to know how the average Sup Forums-user thinks. Did you not consider counter-examples before you posted your opinion?

Ive had this work occasionally, but my success rate is way better when I hit it up with friends.

You get a drink and sit there looking cool calm and collected, eventually someone will wave you over or give you a nod. Thats when you introduce yourself and get to know eachother. If you do this all the time though, people will see you as a loser. Its cool once in a while.

I’ve seen how Indians flirt with women, maybe that is the reason the arrange marriages for you.

To be aware of the political climate and to also protect myself and improve myself. Also getting away from degeneracy. Which is why I stopped watching porn.

the 80/20 rule is true is complete bullshit, you are literally in the bottom 3% of men if you can't get laid by 30

its easier to get laid than ever before thanks to modern degeneracy and apps full of women as patheticly gagging for casual sex as you

>eventually someone will wave you over or give you a nod.

chad detected

>An appeal to nature is an argument or rhetorical tactic in which it is proposed that "a thing is good because it is 'natural', or bad because it is 'unnatural'". ...

You are attempting to frame your argument in the “patriarchy is bad because it’s unnatural” way. You have not countered Japanese anons point about the 50/50 achieved in monogamous societies, therefore you have no argument

Why don't incels date men

You genuinely believe that stopping things in your pooper isn’t degeneracy?

The latter. It's fucking weird man.

I don't go to bars or clubs to hit on women, which is why I think this accidental approach is successful. I go to bars to drink and be alone among people (helps me unwind), to study or take care of work, or to dance. A typical way this happens is
>be me
>be sitting in lounge section of club smoking, drinking a glass of wine, and studying on iPad
>couple of girls walk up
>"is anyone is sitting here?"
>disinterestedly tell them "no"
>they sit down
>one of them starts talking to me
>"hey do you want a drink?"
If I went out alone to hit on woman I'd seem a lot creepier and wouldn't have this sort of success.

In the secular cities, your sex count is as important as your bankroll and material possessions. Notice all the incel crylets obsessed with how they dress, how much time they spend in the gym, how much money they make etc etc... they bought into the system hook, line and sinker and don't even realize it. "If I just add an extra inch to my biceps women will want me! If I wear this $2000 wardrobe women will fuck the shit out of me!"


I see the bullshit less and less outside of the city in more Christian environments. The difference between Dallas and Tyler, TX are huge, girls aren't total tinder thots and actually want to raise a family. Even babby nerds find relationships in the church. Liberal cities are the cancer. Leave them unless you're rich if you want a real life.

This is something else I was thinking. All these men are going to become prison gay and half assed trannys. In a society that celebrates sex so much you can't tell millions of men they can't partake in it because they were born ugly

Becsuse even incels don’t like incels, but they are too proud to admit it.

I guess you can pull this off in a place with unfamiliar people.

kek what? Nothing's going up there.

>You get a drink and sit there looking cool calm and collected, eventually someone will wave you over or give you a nod. Thats when you introduce yourself and get to know eachother. If you do this all the time though, people will see you as a loser. Its cool once in a while.
Yeah this is basically how it goes.

I too have been the safe entry point for sexual experimentation for many a wannabe suicide girl. shit is tragic.

Pussy is good, sure.
No loyalty unless you want to be legitimately manipulative.

>You are attempting to frame your argument in the “patriarchy is bad because it’s unnatural” way.

No I'm not. I said specifically that I was surprised because arguments in favor of patriarchy tend to be rooted in claims about nature (cf. Rousseau, Schopenhauer, Richard Spencer, etc.). The feminist critique is not that patriarchy is wrong because it's "unnatural." Egalitarianism is unnatural. The feminist critique is that there is no argument in favor of "the natural" that is not determined by social circumstances.

Anyway, the user's point about the 50/50 ratio achieved by patriarch is bogus. Please see these actually sourced statistics: American men have more sex with more sex partners than American women on average.

Taking your work to the club? Sounds like a solid excuse to be alone. I can imagine that if you look good enough that this will work.

A bunch of neckbeards are going to try this now and be the weirdo who sticks out like a sore thumb. Still I can see this working for handsome normies. If you wanna bang a club slut you have to win her friends too, if you look like you're there without any kind of angle they probably all like you more

I'm 28 year old virgin with a tiny d*ck
No hope for me

It really fucking is.

What gets me is that a lot of these guys have the nerve to post on Sup Forums about degeneracy in rap and rock and on social media, but then proceed to have one night stands that aren't conducive to a functional society. Fucking cunts, man. I'd punch every single fucking one of you hypocritical sonuvabitches in this thread.

Oh never mind, I was confusing fleshlight with that thing degenerates put in their ass for fun. I just thought it was called pocket pussy.

I'm just focusing on improving myself so I can get a good wife when I start looking.

Not sure where to look exactly though.

It isn't about the fact that 10 guys can each get one girl in a group of 10 girls, it's the fact there's a likelihood one or two guys in that group fucked over 75% of the girls in the group between them.

Oh and this is nothing to say of value. If those 2 guys fuck all of the girls they might fuck everything from a 6 to a 10 but if those guys are 9s, every single girl in that group got to fuck upwards at one point. Sure, any guy can get laid by 30, but how many will have fucked upward versus how many women will have done so?

Based. God bless, user.

Weak men, which will make hard times, that's how it will affect our society, then, the cycle repeats.

Stay a virgin until you find a virgin wife goddamnit. Don't be a twat.