Is there anyone here who is actually in *favor* of a federal assault weapons ban or restriction?

If so, convince someone who's sitting on the fence about the issue. Open to all commonsense ideas and willing to change my opinion.

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If Dems were actually serious about reducing firearm homicide rates they would start by proposing to ban Democrats from owning firearms..

I don't worry about falling victim to the random rare attack involving an assault rifle. I am more worried about getting caught in the crossfire as a couple of incompetent niggers are blasting each other over gaudy Air Jordans.

250 rifle deaths a year including all mass shootings.

500 deaths from fisticuffs.

There should be some restrictions and regulations (Mainly no full autos), but law abiding citizens should be allowed to bear arms.

Ideally we should be able to live in a world where guns are unnecessary, but in reality that's wishful thinking at best.

You Americans are actually retarded. There's been numerous massacres with assault rifles. All the evidence shows bans work. A real uprising looks like Syria. The US army/ government would crush dissent as it has in the 60's and with that cult siege in Waco. But what do facts mean when its an emotional argument? No one gives a fuck anymore, this will keep happening ad naseuam you attention sucking freaks. I cannot spare any more of my mental real estate on you kikes

There's no actual point in banning anything. We need to raise our fucking kids and keep an eye on the crazies, the rest will come naturally.


A bullet is a bullet, doesn't matter what it comes out of.

>perpetuate the conversation at all costs
propagandists deserve to die

>fuck having a dialog about hot issues

>implying that Afghanistan and Iraq haven't used AKs and IEDs to keep the world's most powerful military at bay for a decade now.
You eurofucks sure are cucks.

>A real uprising looks like Syria. The US army/ government would crush dissent as it has in the 60's and with that cult siege in Waco.

Yes, every gun owner should do a short psych eval every 2 years and be background checked for crime or terrorism.

More people die from alcohol related deaths

There is nothing to discuss. We aren't giving up our guns, and you're an faggot. Not one more inch, not one more regulation. Kill a bunch of jew kids everyday for your pysop garbage, I don't fucking care.

Americans don't have the stomach for a tough war. War is logistics and heart. Both which the Taliban and Vietcong have. I laugh at those survivalist militia fags like they could do anything. Soldiers have to train because combat is exhausting. Civvies are worse than useless. Your country was founded on a myth of freedom when really it was a seperatist secession done by landowning slave owning elite. A republic of farmers using european Enlightenment values. Guns outside of rural areas have poisoned your country

What about full semi-autos? Should those be allowed?

>Is there anyone here who is actually in *favor* of a federal assault weapons ban or restriction?
of course. How else can we stop the gun massacres from happening? Answer: There is no other way.

>a real uprising looks like what a retard says it looks like to make a point about gun control

No faggot paramilitary forces can be very effective. Just a couple thousand IRA wreaked devastation in parts of northern UK and they weren't even trying to bring the government to its knees or kill civilians. They basically made individual hit jobs on government officials and bombed shit after announcing where the bombs would go off. They could have crippled the government if they wanted, though it would have devastated the country which was the opposite of what they wanted.

Saying an uprising would have the efficacy of Waco is idiotic. It was a cult of a few hundred nutjobs that cornered themselves in a hole.

>founded on a myth of freedom

Last I checked you can be imprisoned for mean tweets in Gerabia and The Caliphate of Bongistan...

More freedom in the US on a bad day than in Europooristan on a good day.

> There's been numerous massacres with assault rifles

No there has not. AR-15s are not "assault rifles"

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>What about full semi-autos? Should those be allowed?
all semi auto weapons should be banned. Like australia. Gun control works. Why does it work? because it makes it very hard for bad guys to get guns.
Good guys, the cops, will still have guns. Civilians will have hunting rifiles. The idea that civilians can some how stop bad guys with guns is a great misconception, because bad guys only strike when they feel they have an advantage.

> I laugh at those survivalist militia fags like they could do anything. Soldiers have to train because combat is exhausting.
You do realize most "survivalist militias" are composed largely of ex-soldiers?

>good guys, the cops
>the cops
you have shown your knowledge lacking burger bro. The cops are the state. the 2A is to protect we the people from the state in such an event that force is used tyranically upon us. History proves it is a probable scenario and our right to protection shall not be infringed. a figurative /thread on the issue.

>gun control works in Australia

America has more niggers than the ENTIRE population of Australia. It's also attached to Mexico, aka a gun smuggling cartel owned shithole that has an unlimited supply of guns.

SHALL

>All the evidence shows bans work
*Citation needed

Define in detail what an assault rifle is. Liberals can't even do that. I can. An Assault rifle is capable of fully automatic fire. Unless you got 10,000 bucks you can't get a fully automatic rifle. All fully automatic rifles are cataloged by the AFT. Number of mass shootings with a fully automatic rifle,,,,,is zero.

The internet is toxic, middle aged gen x/early millenial parents aren't super techy and have no idea what their kids are doing on the internet. Simple. Society is toxic and illogical. Why do theaters still have ID checks for fucks sake? A 30 year old gets ID checked while a seven year old gets to walk right in with his fat dad to watch Deadpool. Kids get handed a smartphone like candy but ho ho, gotta keep them out of R Rated movies despite them having watched porn and played GTAV since grade school. Seriously, the leaders of this world are so incredibly out of touch with how the public is getting along. And we've just now began the period where GenZ has reached adulthood, so expect a whole lot more shit to happen. Parents can't be blamed, it's impossible for normal people to know everything that the internet can do. Plus, you can be the best parent in the world and your kid still goes to public school for 8 hours a day where shithead Timmy has a smartphone and shows your kid porn.

i would say the only argument you could make is that all you need is a sexy bolt action riffle to shoot nogs who are raiding your home, and the only reason so own anything more is to kill large groups of people

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There's no such thing as "assault weapons" as defined by the leftists. If I cave your skull in with a hammer, it becomes and assault hammer. If I suffocate you with a pillow, it's an assault pillow. The slippery slope is real, and in some time we'll be totally disarmed. A ban on magazine fed semiautomatic weapons (which is what's being put on the table here) won't happen, and if it does I will go out and fight. This nation was formed when a bunch of drunk colonists decided that they'd had enough of the unfair taxation and bullshit rules and regulations imposed upon them by a foreign power that didn't actually care about them. Our politicians don't care about us. The founding fathers did all kinds of stuff like hanging loyalists, pouring boiling tea down the throats of tax collectors, and covering people in hot tar and feathers. We'll do all this and more if these fuckers try to strip us of what is (for all intents and purposes) our last constitutional right that's still enforced. The second amendment was created so that we're able to kill anyone that tries to take away the second amendment. Let them try it. I'll go out and fight for my nation. Just look at those Florida cops that waited outside while kids were being slaughtered. Law enforcement is filled with cowards. As soon as they come door to door to collect guns, we'll have them running with their tails between their legs, and we'll shoot them in the back anyways.

Only idiots who have some fantasy of an armed revolution think assault weapons should be legal. It's fucking ridiculous how Americans think.

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Nigs attack in packs of three or more. While you fire at one and have to bolt action your gun the other two or three are already on you or shooting at you with handguns that don't require bolt action.

this.
clearly, you know da wey.

The Second Amendment is not there so you may hunt durr, carry for protection, or shoot for sport. It is there to keep American citizens as armed as our government and its military. Limits on 2A are limits on your ability to fight back against tyranny. You think a dictator gives a single turd about what his people vote for or protest against?

Also, anons who give (you)s to memeflags should be banned on the spot.

>he waited outside
Thats all i needed to hear to convince me that my well being is best left up to me.
All these claims of violence are just admissions of the real fear/hatred the accusser is thinking.

That argument is incredibly lame. You gun nuts are brainwashed fanatics. This is turning into the worst conflict since the civil war.

Assault rifles threaten the rule of law and could lead to the kind of tyrannical government you think you're trying to prevent. Soon we will have armies of mexican drug cartels armed with hundreds of thousands of assault rifles ravaging the countryside because you you moronic ass holes.

The only group that could overthrow the government is the military. And if they do this and impose tyranny, you will have no chance against them.

He'll likely cite Australia and Japan. Both Island countries with total control of what comes in and out.

dealing with blacks is easy. It doesn't require flooding the country with assault rifles.
Mexican cartels get the vast majority of their weapons from the usa. They are a huge threat and are already amassing enormous arsenals of assault weapons, for future use against us, because of our lax gun laws.

>American should have their rights taken away and/or limited because their government failed to do their job and, in fact, assisted the mass murderers from Mexico.

Nah, you're retarded. No (you)s for you. Castrate yourself.

im not "in favor" of it but it would reduce mass shootings if you could ban them all

If you want our guns why don’t YOU come get them? Pussy!

Silly. We ARE the military. All the fags and trannies are in Combat Service Support. They have not seen a firearm since Basic.

Why dont you sit on your rifle faggot

With Australia, the banned only worked because the government redefined "mass shootings" to not officially exist. Japan also has questionable avenues for declaring its crime rate to be lower than it actually is: theres more than one reason that they have one of the highest "suicide" rates in the world.

I own an AR and AK, and I don't have a problem with some restrictions such as the 21 age limit. But in all honestly I think the AR and such rifles are over-rated. Hands down, my favorite rifle is my Henry lever action 45-70, and my Winchester lever action 44 mag. The 45-70 is a fucking beast as is the 44 which has a 10 round capacity.

>assault weapons

fuck off, nobody here is seeking attention. The fucking media blows that shit up and doubles down on agenda pushing. If you don't like them being attention whores then stop fucking feeding their ratings

In all seriousness, didn't Australia have exactly as many mass shootings before port arthur as after?

Nice bait.
Try harder next time. No one is that stupid to write such crap.

>You Americans are actually retarded. There's been numerous massacres with assault rifles.
>assault rifles
Attacks involving genuine assault rifles here are extremely rare. It's actually much more common in your great land of Europe where terrorists acquire legitimate full auto weapons and kill journalists and people who draw images of Mohammad.

Remember when we had a drawing contest and the only people who died were muslims?

Good times, in the land of plenty.

What do you think about pic related?

>convince me
Confiscation is treason. Treason is punishable by death

>Traitors will be shot

A machine gun in every pot and a tank in every garage I always say

no they went well down

Only retarded city cucks, homos and jews are in favor of gun control.

As expected, gun control increases violent crime.
>For England and Wales, we added together three crime categories: "violence against the person, with injury," "most serious sexual crime," and "robbery." This produced a rate of 775 violent crimes per 100,000 people.
>For the United States, we used the FBI’s four standard categories for violent crime that Bier cited. We came up with a rate of 383 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

i really tire of fags who claim a civilian AR isn't an "assault rifle" just because it lacks full auto

That's the definition faggot

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>because bad guys only strike when they feel they have an advantage.
Like in a GUN FREE ZONE?

do you have a source for your statement? As I would greatly appreciate it.

until people learn they need to defend themselves instead of writing laws pretending to protect them, they will continue to die in mass shootings, until you arm yourselves and train yourselves you will continue to be moving meat targets for psychopaths

Beautiful

I thought we were supposed to ignore trolls?

"Assault rifle" is a term fabricated by the media. ARs and AK are carbine rifles meaning they are compact with a relatively high caliber. You want to see an assault rifle. Come shoot my 45-70 Henry level action. That round will penetrate two cinder blocks.

I'm in favour of lowering gun prices in Canada... it's fucking insane!

>"assault rifle" is a term fabricated by the media.
wrong

>My brush gun is an assault rifle
So, in your world, a Barrett .50BMG is an assault rifle?

Are you drunk on a school night?

Bans work better in UK and Australia where they don't have a giant Cartel directly to the south intent on coming up into their cities.
And constant gang violence.
Also we have the 2nd A to defend against a tyrannical government, so the more they take away our firepower, the less they have to worry about.
Especially when they go into places like Waco, character assassinate them by telling everyone they're a trafficking ring when they're really saving kids, and level the place.

7/10 nice work

>defend
No, I'm not fucking wrong. I served in the Army for 10 years, and never, ever, heard anyone refer to the M4 rfile as an "assault rifle." You people made up the terminology. Look in any military lexicon and you will not find the term "assault rifle."

353 deaths per year from swimming pools.

How about no more backpacks leave everything in the school and no more home work. Check your coats at the door. No more shootings.

I'm in favor because I live in California and want the rest of the country to feel my pain and suffering.

>because of our lax gun laws
Or the porous border, Fast and Furious, and we're supposed to trust our gov to defend against them?!
If they're letting cartel members into the country, and arming them in MX, I can use an AK to defend myself.

Putting armed guards everywhere isn't a solution, monkey brain. Guns are actually dangerous, you know? Civilized people don't want them around, like how gas stations don't allow smoking.

Black Guns Matter!

I have a problem with the 21 year age limit. If people usually leave their parent's house at 18 as functional adults, why can't they buy a gun?
We're supposed to be encouraging people to be independent individuals and exercise their rights, and besides almost all the mass shooters of schools and concerts and things have been 21+

>I can use an AK to defend myself.
that will not work. If cartels want to get you, they will wait until you don't have your assault rifle and take you out, or they will systematically slaughter your family members, distant relatives, or even acquaintances. That's what they do in mexico, and they're doing it with weapons bought in the USA. Bad guys strike when they have an advantage.

The best thing to do is take all the semi autos away, thus denying the bad guys an arsenal of weapons to use against cops and civilians, and simultaneously giving he police and military a huge advantage over them.

Would it be better to have people get a license to buy a gun? Maybe take a class too

ive got a solution.
since blacks have already destroyed every single major city in this country/world, why not give them one city and just force all the blacks to live there. then we can stop counting them as part of the country and everything negative would effectively go away

in times square, i saw two guards with armed with full auto weapons just chilling out

There's only one group pushing gun bans.

Honestly, I could see an argument to ban handguns. The vast, vast majority of gun crime is committed with handguns and handguns would be less useful for defending against government tyranny. Rifles fit the purpose of the 2nd amendment more closely.
That's why everyone should be suspicious about why they want to come after the rifles first...

"Denying the bad guys..." Wow, I guess the cretins and criminals will just turn in their fucking semi-autos as well once it's illegal to own them. Are you being serious or being sarcastic? It doesn't matter, Congress might pass some bullshit token gun laws but America will never look like the U.K,when it comes to gun control. We armed the teeth.

No

More deaths every year from assault rifles than any other weapon. That is grounds enough for banning them. If you want .ore grounds, call of booty makes preteens think that weapons of war are cool. There is nothing cool about a fully automatic rifle that can kill over 600 people per minute. And there is the ease of access to assault rifles. If a kid cannot buy a handgun or a beer till 22, why can he buy an automatic rifle. He shouldn't and couldn't. Period. I dare anyone to refute me, because you cant

Couldn't have said it better yourself.

No, I heard on CNN and MSNBC that a fully loaded AR-15 is capable of killing 800 people a minute if you have one of the machine gun cylinders in it, and have the rocket launcher and chain saw attached.

It's much more lethal if you put the machine gun magazines on the bumper stocks.

Automatic rifles have been illegal in America for ages and most deaths are from handguns, not rifles. Pathetic that a Norwegian knows more about this than you.

No there not! teenagers can walk into gun shows where they sell weapons of MURDER for 130 dollars to teenagers! IT is sick!

You mean the AR-24 with the bumper stocks and machine gun belt valve attachment right? I saw some kids walk out of gun show with three of those last weekend. Fucking bullshit.

Implying stats can go above logic

I bought my first beer/cig/rifle registered to vote and signed up for the army all within the same week when I was 18
(army didn't take me...asthma)

>But what do facts mean when its an emotional argument?
Mass shootings are statistically irrelevant, if you don't care about emotions, fuck off and stop complaining about muh chillins and muh school shooting.

No
Such faggots deserve the rope