Assad began the war

He started killing peaceful protestors as well as torturing them for months before soldiers began fighting back to protect cities. Why not accept he is the aggressor?

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Yair is gonna watch his father get executed for crimes against humanity.

What's wrong with killing protestor, pussy American faggot? Doesn't matter if he did or not. Not a bad thing. Chances are he didn't. Would be good if he did.

Globalist shill spotted.

What crimes against humanity? Israel doesn't kill civilians.

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What's wrong with killing protestors. Let's say nothing. Assad inviting foreign Shia militias it quite egregious, however.

Why are you making this about Israel? This is about Assad killing Syrian people.

Because Israel is funding 7 different Syrian Rebel groups. They are the enemy. Assad is BASED. Even IRAN is BASED.

Israel is a shithole that should be bombed.

Why is Iran based? What are you babbling about?

Iran is a preferable country to other alternatives in the middle east because it isnt an isreali proxy...

You have to think beyond just "HUR THE DEAD CHILDREN ON THE NEWS"

What does Iran have to do with Israel? Iran began a war in Yemen.

Israel only exists because of the flag on your profile.

He did.
But at the same time you can't deny that the initial protests were boilerplate sorosfaggotry. They did the same fucking thing in Egypt.
Consider that Assad is the only OG leader left
Mubark was ousted (but he was able to make a deal with sisi and Egyptians are relatively civilized, they didn't fucking gouge his eyes out while killing him)
Ghaddafi got killed
Maghrib got wrecked
Sudan got split in 2 and now Israel has both of them fighting
Libya still a shithole almost a decade after they "liberated" themselves from ghaddafi
Egypt JUST BARELY made it through because the military is highly redpilled on jewish tricks (see: the yom kippur meme war) and their economy is still in the red. Israel is meming Ethiopia into building a dam and blocking the nile flow to Egypt.
Assad's dad lost the Golan Heights to the jews, you can bet he red pilled his son.

Are you serious???
Israel has just as much to do with what's happening in Syria as Iran... they are just on opposing sides.

I'm sorry. Syria was at peace in 2011. Egypt falling was a net negative for Israel.

All the destruction in Syria is from Assads tanks, artillery, jets and planes. The rebels just have some RPGs and rifles. He has killed the most and began the war. I also don't know how you can justify Assad killing his own people? Kind of crazy.

Israel at least borders Syria. Iran doesn't.

To elaborate, if the rebels had managed to take control of Syria, Israel would have gained itself another proxy country and would have continued its imperialism in the middle east and elsewhere. Iran and Syria are directly opposed to Israeli imperialism and they are unfortunately paying the toll, this war hsa everything to do with Israel.

But Yemen has nothing to do with Israel, and Iran began that war.

I don't see how the Arab Spring benefits Israel, seeing how their ally Mubarak fell. People just wanted freedom, regardless of geopolitics/foreign policy and Assad chose to bomb the whole country with jets like a megalomaniac.

They stopped being his people when they conspired to bring him down and destroy their own country for israeli sheckles
Egypt is the largest and most powerful military force in the region after Israel. Egypt is also the only country to successfully beat the israelis both politically and in battle.
You can bet your ass Egypt falling is one of israels top goals.

Nope. You're an idiot. Mubarak was a huge ally of Israel, who helped besiege Gaza.

The people didn't take arms against the state, he began killing them. He should have held elections instead of destroying his whole country.

Syria wasn't isolated, Assad met Sarkozy in France the year before, he had no "national security" excuse.

Iran has it's own nasty agenda and the shiites can honestly fuck off

Why are you bringing up Yemen, when did that come in?

Claiming that Israel has nothing to do with this war is like claiming the soviet union had nothing to do with Vietnam. Its a proxy war, thats what a proxy war is.

Israels defence minister said "“Keeping Assad in power is not in our security interests. As long as he is in power, Iran and Hezbollah will be in Syria.”
It quite clearly shows that this war is much much more than just Syrians wanting freedom.

Good goy

What does this have to do with goys? Iran began a war in Yemen. They're an insane country.

What’s your point?
Even if he killed a few protestors, does that necessitate half a million dead in an attempt to illegally overthrow his government?
Ignoring the fact that we armed and funded the resistance.
Ignoring the fact that we had CIA in Syria since 2006 trying to rouse up protests.
Ignoring the fact that we still have no evidence that Assad gassed his own people.
Ignoring the fact that this whole thing is clearly about oil pipelines.

So why didn't Assad hold elections. The armed rebels were just demanding reforms until he began using artillery on entire neighborhoods. Why are you supporting the biggest terrorist in the conflict.

Who intervened? Iraqi Shias intervened in Syria first in October 2012. You simply don't know the facts.

Why on earth do you keep brining up yemen, we are talking about ASSAD and SYRIA, this thread is about ASSAD and SYRIA.

Who is responsible for the 500,000 dead instead of reforming the system? Who has tanks, artillery, planes and jets? Assad! He is the destroyer of the cities and the despoiler of it's wealth.

He was also getting old, and the military was planning a coup.
No matter how corrupt Egyptian politics get, the military could never ally with Israel, there's just too much bad blood.
However, the Muslim Brotherhood? They would welcome the shekles with open arms.
Morsi was literally planning on "donating" sinai, one of the major reasons the army generals ousted him.
Shiites are just as bad as jews, if not worse.
Of course, this is nu/pol/ and anything associated with the word "Aryan" makes it based.

Because it shows Iran is in Syria for it's own goals, not to liberate Palestine.

>began using artillery on entire neighborhoods

So you think that after the protests he just started shelling neighbourhoods? Pretty sure before he reached that point the rebels were armed and trained hence a threat to the rest of syria.

We started arming the rebels in 2011, to include people in Al Nusra and ISIS.
This is well documented.

Nonsense. Israel lost an ally in Mubarak. You're saying a totally ficticious analysis of Egypt.

>literally want to destroy isreal
>Just as bad as jews

So you want to keep both?? Or use one against the other... pick your poison

6 months of protests, then some soldiers picked up arms to defend cities from assad's torturers and snipers. Instead of unifying the country behind a reform plan, he took advantage of Russia's VETO to just lay waste to Syrian cities dude.

Implying revolutions just stat on their own with no external support...

No ISIS until April 2013, ignoramus.

I have a hard time sympathizing with an association of jihadists whose primary goal is to put another Sunni theocracy where a secular government currently stands.

Why not accept you have been brainwashed into believing MSM propaganda?

We STOPPED arming ISIS in 2013.

Yeah, sometimes they do. The Arab Spring was grassroots because it targeted both pro-US puppets and pro-Iran puppets.

Secular? Backed by an Iranian Theocracy sending it's gangs to secure various shrines.

No. ISIS didn't form until April 2013.

You are starting to piece it together... where did they get those arms??? Hmmmm I wonder who could do such a thing...

I dont give a fuck.

What MSM propaganda? That only assad has artillery and jets, and if he held elections he could have ended the crisis immediately?

AlQaeda In Iraq+Syria by anotehr name.

Du pareil au meme!

He means they armed al nursa which later became and a large amount defected to isis

oh also Al nursa was well known to be heavily linked with al quaeda

Defected soldiers. You're clueless. The FSA were soldiers who insisted on protecting Syrian cities from Assad's state-terrorism. Why are you fabricating the truth about this conflict?

The people didn’t rise out of thin air. They fought as AQ until they decided to rebrand and use the resources we gave them to backflow into Iraq.

No what? Hezbollah has been in Syria since July 2012.

>people here don't actually understand this
>people here don't know what the Arab spring is
>people here defend Assad to be contrarians
what a sad state of things

He stopped being an ally once he came old and weak.
His last few years were awful, and the declining economy with a massive wealth gap made people hate him.
It's almost like you don't know how the CIA and Mossad works

OP IS FULL OF SHIT

(((SHILL))) detected

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Why are you just making shit up! Do these guys look like Al-Qaeda to you?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=IuhEMGo8FW0

Every single country mentioned in this thread is our enemy and should be glassed, their people torn from the pages of history

But why justify Assad shelling entire neighborhoods and bombing cities with his jets instead of holding elections?

HAHAHAHA no...
The majority of the FSA was formed by civs... I would like to know where you are getting these facts from.. here I will give you a few facts..


3000 FSA soldiers defect to Al nursa (later became ISIS) in 2013, back then thats the majority of the group.

globalresearch.ca/3000-moderate-rebels-defect-to-the-islamic-state-isis-us-preparing-5000-more/5425344

theguardian.com/world/2013/may/08/free-syrian-army-rebels-defect-islamist-group

almasdarnews.com/article/3000-fsa-fighters-defect-isis-qalamoun-mountains/

inb4 fake news

Yes, he began killing "moderate peaceful protesters that followed the religion of peace after their attempts to peacefully convert the population".

Are you denying since October 2012, foreign Shia militias have been in Syria?

And why are Hezbollah or other Iraqi Shia gangs any better?

These FSA soldiers were trained and armed by the CIA program, or at least the people who trained them were. This is all well documented and has been admitted publicly by the CIA

Watch: m.youtube.com/watch?v=IuhEMGo8FW0

elections dont work
see: Morsi

I'm not sure if you are aware of this but Hezbollah played a leading role in the fight against ISIS.

So you deny the well established fact that AQI migrated from Iraq to Syria in 2009 and helped create dissent among the population. Gotcha.

How much does Shareblue pay you?

So what? Why are they better?

No, it's a fabrication. The Arab Spring was a peaceful movement in all countries, regardless of foreign policy. Assad militarized the crisis of confidence instead of stepping down like a patriot.

My point is that there are no moderate rebels in syria. You could say that the kurds are moderate which is probably true but for the most part they act in the interest of kurdistan and not syria.

But why defend foreign Shia militias?

Why is Hezbollah better than ISIS?
are you seriously asking this?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant

Yes, why? Why is Assad, who gasses kids, better then ISIS?

You have two problems, one is significantly worse than the other, so if you can get the smaller problem to take out the big one, it makes everything a lot easier.

No. Assad has killed the vast majority of people. Has jets and artillery, the rebels just have small arms.

>The Arab Spring was a peaceful movement in all countries, regardless of foreign policy
are you fucking retarded

I think calling Assad worse than ISIS is a bit ridiculous, if you are christian for example, ISIS will quite literally torture, behead you or burn you alive and then post the video online. Meanwhile there are entirely christian towns in syria that literally have churches, have large christmas celebrations etc. Not to mention the vast majority of syrians support him

Qaddafi militarized the crisis by killing instead of stepping down.

You are letting the pictures and things you see online blind you of the raw facts.

Tf? The only people they burned alive was a traitorous Jordanian pilot!

The raw facts is ISIS has knives and toyotas, and Assad has airpower.

Hell, there are videos floating around of the FSA beheading Christian priests.
I’d sooner go over there to kill them myself than support their resistance.

There are plenty of videos of them burning people...

Yes, AFTER Hezbollah invaded.

>He started killing peaceful protestors as well as torturing them for months before soldiers began fighting back to protect cities. Why not accept he is the aggressor?
Sounds like a syrian problem
I dont know what other countries are doing there desu

Yes, and videos of Iraqi Shias burning ISIS members. Why are you so one sided?

>peaceful protestors
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Ask the foreign Iraqi Shia militias who went there in October 2012.

exactly this
The best option is to end the war, but as long as these groups exist this will never happen, and supporting rebels certainly doesnt help the effort.

Well, one if they were caught burning someone alive they would probably be jailed. Also any videos of such would most certainly be dead bodies, which is still bad but not nearly as bad and has a completely different intent.

Anyways I have to go sleep, has been a good conversation though... night

Nonsense! They hung him upside down and burned him alive.

ISIS only does gruesome shit to traitors. Sunni pilots or Sunni spies.

Goodnight. Thanks for being civil.

What is he going to answer?
My bet is the same.
Yes what are those countries doing in Syria?

Sudan was split into 2 because the shitheaded muslims including omar bashir wanted to slaughter the south sudanese darkies.
And they were complete islamist shitheads, because they wasted all that oil money, which they could have used to develop their infrastructure on buying weapons to kill the said darkies in the south.

Also jewish tricks in egypt?
Mohammed morsi, the elected president was a member of an islamist group called the muslim brotherhood. He was planning to turn egypt into an islamic shithole, which was anathema to egyptian secularism.

Why not accept it's not our fucking problem?

Hahahahahahaa. Pathetic Amerimutts, with no knowledge of history, ethnicity, ideology and economics of Levant, only thing you know is how you can suck Zogs dick harder.

Pisszrael should not be supported by sheer principles of Sup Forums based on rational prejustices regardless of legitimacy of the Pisszraels enemy.

Now go on and repeat you buzzword crafted propaganda for intervention bullshit, but I will give you a thought that will be always in your head no matter how much you cry and deny.

Reality is quite different from delusion, if Assad was and is such a monster then even Russia could not and would not play devils advocate for him, meaning that he would be toppled years ago. Since your beliefs are mass propaganda psychosis they are not based on reality and such it translates on the Syrian ground, because multicultural Syria really loves to fight for their genocidal dictator that wants to kill them for benefit of Alawi... I mean Shia terrorists.

It goes without saying that he's a piece of shit, the dad of one of my sister's friends is locked up in one his secret prisons, but you can't turn back time and at the moment he's the only hope for a stable Syria; what's your point?

neck yourself trump dick sucker

Assad is a monster and so was Milosevic. Assad happens to be worse. And Iraqi Shias have been fighting for Assad since October 2012.