Debate me

Debate me

What are the rules?

I don't debate retards.

faggot

You went too far.

At a libertarian level of authority there is no left or right it is just your personal beliefs at that point. Left and right comes into place when government exists because it is what you want to implement into the government. In any case why do you think government should not exist?

lul

>vote for objectively correct answers
>placed libertarian left

Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation. - This is objectively a fact

A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies. - This is objectively a fact

Good parents sometimes have to spank their children. - This is objectively incorrect.

There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures. - This is objectively a fact. Civility is a human construct and has no universal and measurable definition.

It's natural for children to keep some secrets from their parents. - This is objectively a fact

What's good for the most successful corporations is always, ultimately, good for all of us. - Objectively incorrect.

Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counter-terrorism. - This is objectively a fact.

A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.-This is objectively a fact

Multinational companies are unethically exploiting the plant genetic resources of developing countries. - This is objectively a fact


Astrology accurately explains many things. - This is objectively incorrect.

You cannot be moral without being religious. - This is objectively incorrect. There is no such thing as morality, only human interpretation of it. Many people without religion believe they have morality.

Charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged. - This is objectively incorrect. If "better" means an change that is seen as "positive" by the majority of people.

No one can feel naturally homosexual. - Objectively incorrect

These are not even able to be argued. These are objective facts.Anyone who thinks that they are not is obviously delusional.

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How does a Left Libertarian differ from a Right Libertarian? What Liberty would you seek to disallow from either side?

4 - just define civility as non-violence and non-intrusion on the property rights of others. There, now you can measure it

Also this quiz deals in too many absolutes so you kind of have to give it the benefit of the doubt and go by the spirit of the question, not the word. But you seem like an autist anyways.

No rules

Said the stormfag :^)

Yea I dunno why it put me that far desu, I'm def not an anarchist.

I don't

I do however believe that an individual's freedom is entirely reliant on their ability to function and learn. Without this, nobody is free. Therefore food, water, shelter, health care, and education are basic human rights and must be provided by any state that wants to call itself a free state.

Def in 16

A left-libertarian cares about social freedoms but values the worker more than the capitalist. The only aspect of capitalist libertarianism I don't really like is the ability to take so much that you're damaging the lower class.

not sure what we would debate desu. we probably agree on most things.

TO GO FURTHER BEYOND

> I cant refute his argument
>I'll just call him autistic
>Another argument won!

"Multinational companies are unethically exploiting the plant genetic resources of developing countries."

They're doing what now?

"A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.-This is objectively a fact"

Not objectively. I believe you read the question incorrectly. Would it be a significant advantage to the party itself? It might seem that way, in the short-term. For the country? No. For the individual? No.

"There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures. - This is objectively a fact. Civility is a human construct and has no universal and measurable definition."

Stop with the social/human constructs nonsense. You're treating postmodern social theory as scripture.

"Good parents sometimes have to spank their children. - This is objectively incorrect."

Not sure if that was the original wording, and worded in the way you put it, then I would also say incorrect; however, since you seem to buy into cultural relativism, then why is it a fact?

"These are not even able to be argued. These are objective facts.Anyone who thinks that they are not is obviously delusional."

Not delusional. Still in disagreement.

Not a fan of postmodernism, third wave feminism, or social justice warriors.

>Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation. - This is objectively a fact
Incorrect assumption: regulation via government entity is not the only possible means to accomplish this end

>A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies. - This is objectively a fact
Government sanction and crony protectionism are required to create a monopoly

>There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures. - This is objectively a fact. Civility is a human construct and has no universal and measurable definition.
The measure of violence inflicted without rational cause can be objectively assessed to separate savage (animalistic) from civil (human) societies. One might view this as a matter of Justice being present or absent, in abstract and in practice. Any society that practices a kill-or-be-killed "law of the jungle" system would be significantly "savage" by comparison

>It's natural for children to keep some secrets from their parents. - This is objectively a fact
Naturalistic Fallacy, Is-Ought Dilemma

>A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.-This is objectively a fact
Define "progress" and consider whether or not Change is always a universal good

>Multinational companies are unethically exploiting the plant genetic resources of developing countries. - This is objectively a fact
Depends on what you mean by "exploiting"

>You cannot be moral without being religious. - This is objectively incorrect. There is no such thing as morality, only human interpretation of it. Many people without religion believe they have morality.
Objectively correct if you accept the premise that all "beliefs" about morality are of a "religious" nature, even those supposedly based on rational thought and observation

>Charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged. - This is objectively incorrect. If "better" means an change that is seen as "positive" by the majority of people.
Charity is better because of Free Choice and maintaining control of your own resources, including who you believe deserves to benefit from being given those resources that you worked to acquire and which they did not

>These are not even able to be argued. These are objective facts.Anyone who thinks that they are not is obviously delusional.
This is a true statement given some specific presumptions, but I would encourage you to challenge your own concept of these underlying beliefs. A lot of it comes down to how you personally interpret and assign meaning to key words in each statement.

well I definitely agree fuck TERFs.

TERFs are not the only third wave feminists. The movement as a whole has become irreconcilable with liberalism. Anything that has been tainted with critical theory needs to be scrapped. Neo-Marxism is a perversion of classical Marxism. Let's take Marxism but throw out dialectical materialism.

>He u-used a fallacy... wow, that means I win!
That's called the fallacy fallacy. I made my argument literally every line before calling you an autist. Just because I hurt your fee-fees doesn't mean the rest doesn't stand.

>I do however believe that an individual's freedom is entirely reliant on their ability to function and learn. Without this, nobody is free. Therefore food, water, shelter, health care, and education are basic human rights and must be provided by any state that wants to call itself a free state.
I exclude physical survival from the equation. These are realities of the natural world that no person other than yourself is responsible to solve. Freedom is about Control: the more control over our choices we give to society or government, the less freedom we have as individuals. Endorsing such Positive Rights as you have described creates the obligation for some other person to provide you with these things, and seeks to remove the responsibility for you to provide them for yourself. There is no way such Positive Rights don't end in Slavery of one kind or another.

>A left-libertarian cares about social freedoms but values the worker more than the capitalist. The only aspect of capitalist libertarianism I don't really like is the ability to take so much that you're damaging the lower class.
Economic Feudalism is a major potential downside of a purely Anarchist or "Voluntaryist" model. This is why I endorse Minarchism (smallest possible and highly limited govt), though the devil of "How far is too far?" remains in the details.

literally kys faggot

I don't debate faggots.

>Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation. - This is objectively a fact
Government is the biggest corporation of all and you are trusting them to voluntarily protect the environment. Where does that trust come from?

The debate has long since passed, only action remains.

>Charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged. - This is objectively incorrect. If "better" means an change that is seen as "positive" by the majority of people.

Have you considered the information problem you introduce by having a disinterested third party being in charge of the collection AND distribution of money?

what are your main policy positions?

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Equality is a social construct. It's literally unnatural. Humanity will stagnate and struggle eternally unless we let the lowest in the gene pool die out.

Also, socialism is all well and good, but are you going to let the right-wing libertarians secede from the rest? If not, then you are going to need some sort of authoritarian government to force people to be socialist, because there will always be people who care only about their own family and friends.

I was 16 once too.

>There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures. - This is objectively a fact. Civility is a human construct and has no universal and measurable definition.


hahahahaha your a fucking moron

>all i can afford is windows ME.jpg

lol

I think you got that wrong. It's not all I can afford, it's all I know how to use.

Oh wait, you meant the operating system ME. No, never used that. I thought you were referring to some Microsoft suite that has ms paint because that is the limit of my wizardry.

Ruh-Roh, we've got ourselves an orange and black.

Libertarianism is fucking retarded.

The virgin quad-post
Good argument

How's life in Austin, Texas?

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The resurrection of Jesus and Christianity (along with almost all religion) are a hoax.

GO

Gross

If you don't have 99% positive feedback on eBay, no one is buying. No government needed.

Our selfish interests CAN and DO work for the greater good. Corporate interests not withstanding. Before you go fucking with the corporate entities of the world, consider that corp's moat. What's preventing people from competing with the Corp? If the moat is weak, you don't need regulation. People don't need to organize under political banners, quadrants included. This shit is fucking stupid, stop trying to prevent voluntary interaction by pretending you know better than the interested parties. This is the same stupid logic that creates social programs that do the opposite of their stated goals.

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