Do you guys find it funny and ironic that Trump and right-wings are now representatives for the workers (proletariat)...

Do you guys find it funny and ironic that Trump and right-wings are now representatives for the workers (proletariat) while left-wings are now representatives for city middle-class liberals (bourgeoisie)?
What kind of timeline is this?

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the idiocracy timeline

the timeline where people are starting to realize multiculturalism just means displacing whites.

When exactly left-wing represented actual workers? Their MO alway was exploiting them to gain power, and then letting them starve.

Nope because in reality this is the way things have always been. The universities always support Marxist bullshit in the name of the workers, while fighting the workers out in the streets (who actually want capitalism).
Workers know that capitalism is the best system for them to get ahead in and that socialism turns them into slaves to the state. Only niggers don't understand this.

We wuz...sickles n shiet?

proletariat and bourgeoisie are meme classifications and not very useful in the real world, much like the rest of Marxist thought.

Also, look at vote by income.

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In the USSR "workers utopia", the actual workers were sent to fight Nazis without guns and often had to eat wallpaper to survive, while the party members enjoyed shitty, but far better arrangements.

I think Trump represents the lower and middle classes, the left represents a minority of coastal-elite celebrities and their low-IQ lemmings.

shill better faggot
Yeah wtf is this? Everything Democrats are doing now: DACA to lower wages, identity politics that only city liberals care about, globalism, etc. is literally serving the bourgeoisie. Marx would hate nowadays Democrats.

Whereas Trump is literally talking about helping the proletariats: trade deals, bring factories back, bringing black unemployment down, tariffs to help American workers, etc.

1980s left:
Anti-war
Anti-crony capitalism
Pro-democracy
Pro-free speech
Pro-human rights in foreign countries
Anti-organised religion
Defend video games
Anti-political violence
Anti-racial segregation

How things have changed!

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No, but at least they pretend to care for blue-collar workers and fight "big greedy exploiting capitalists"

Nowadays they openly mock the proletariat classes by telling them "racist stupid rednecks Trump supporters", while only talking about bourgeoisie problems like "neutral-gender bathrooms"

I also recognised this development.
If we still would have real sociologists ala Max Weber it would be awesome to study this phenomenon.

The left neve represented workers.
Case in point: Communism.

That all ended on the left with JFK in the USA. Both sides were what Europeans would have considered radically left-wing throughout most of the USA's existence: the USA right were radical British liberals while the USA were radical French liberals. This is why our system of "right vs left" seems so strange to outsiders. The USA has pretty much always been the two enlightenment factions fighting for control of the country, with some notable exceptions.

I think it's pretty well understood that both parties are going through a major realignment. The realignment is more cultural than ideological, however. Of course the old issues and connotations never truly go away. If you were to look hard enough you would probably find somewhere in the state of Kansas an old guy who votes Democrat because they supported the coinage of silver.

I think anyone who casually says "Proletariat" and "bourgeoisie" autta shampoo my crotch

The left has only pretended to fight for workers because the shit they want actually hurts workers.

No, it's not even about multiculturalism/white replacements. Remember that there a large number of American black/chinese/hispanic workers who voted for Trump.

Yep, which is really ironic because the ideologically lefts support workers and rights support capitalists

But at least they still pretend to care. Nowadays they openly mock workers' intelligence.

>No, it's not even about multiculturalism/white replacements
There is no situation where this statement is true

>left wing pundits lead witch hunt against politicians for colluding with dastardly Russians

The Left simply found a more fashionable cause to exploit and then congratulate themselves for pretending to care about.

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>Trump and right-wings are now representatives for the workers
never mind the tax cuts he gave to the billionaires, fellow MAGApeeds! it's totaly whay a populist does, amirite

so you actually think that democrats are communists...

democrats and republicans are almost the same thing

Dude, all "real" sociologists are dead. Nowadays sociologists only spew sjws bullshit or will get kicked out for wrong thinks.

Very interesting indeed. I heard a lot of people say that JFK would be considered right-wings nowadays.

True

Because Marxism is the father of all left-wing parties of Western worlds. Without Marx there would be no left-wings. That's why I used the two terms for reference to Marx.

If it's only about racial issues and multiculturalism, minority workers would never vote for Trump. And never once Trump said anything against multiculturalism or stopping white replacements. He only talked about upholding laws and helping workers.

>Anti-organised religion
I think this is one of the biggest details of the left that isn't talked about much. Their entire group operates like a religion, while they outwardly claim to be against religion, and then it turns out they're just against Christianity, so they're not really anti-religion; it's just more of their self-loathing Marxism. Because it's "cool" to hate the majority religion of their own country.

But then they'll turn around and worship Islam - After all, it's foreign, and therefore it's "racist" to criticize it. And of course, Islam is horrible to women and gays - groups the left claims to defend - but "that's just their culture". So when someone in America jokingly uses the word "faggot", that will be called out as major homophobia, but nobody on the left bats an eye when a gay gets thrown off a building in the middle-east. Again, more self-loathing horseshit. It's easier to criticize the people of their own country.

Everything in religion has a left-wing equivalent. Religion has sin, the left has political correctness. Religion has Satan, the left has the patriarchy. Religion has "magical sky zombies" which the left mocks - But then they turn around and there are these "magical invisible glass ceilings" that only they can see. Both religion and the left condemn talking to outsiders (I.E., how the left is always in an echo-chamber), for fear that they'll hear a superior idea and begin to question the cult leaders. You can pay the Catholic church to forgive you of your sins - And you can pay Al Gore to be forgiven of your carbon-sins.

All while lying that the actual red scare was bad (if anything it should’ve been more extreme).

Anyone that actually votes democrat and is white is literally brain dead or has a cuck fantasy.

social injustice is ruining society

Not really more fashionable, they just think it’ll give them a super majority so they can impose all of the social experimental policies they want, like some kind of neo feudalism.

No one cares faggot

Not meme, Marx is the father of all left-wing parties in Western worlds. To see that righties representing workers against lefties representing intellectuals and affluents is really ironic.

Communism/Marxism is the father of all left-wings party. And at least in the past democrats pretend to care for workers. Nowadays they openly mock their supposed base's intelligence while representing city liberals.

Social injustice parading as social justice is ruining society.

Thanks for your input. I heard there's even a book about this topic.

Trump REPRESENTING the workers AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAH
>muh billionaire is for the people

You do recall that it was the electoral college that gave him the W, not the official popular vote count.

What's it called? I need to read this.

This is actually true.

The problem is they're doing it on purpose.

>Dude, all "real" sociologists are dead. Nowadays sociologists only spew sjws bullshit or will get kicked out for wrong thinks.
That's basically what I sas.
You must be a mutt I guess.

No Conservatism has always championed the "common man", the everyday, working man and all the rights that allow him to remain private and self-sufficient as he wants to be. There is no equivalence between what conservatives want and the divisive subclass mentality of an eternal "workers union" that needs to unite and rebel against [whatever is currently rich and not a Jew]. Conservatives are for freedom, Marxists seek control.

I just look it up. While haven't found any books on it, I found this video:
youtube.com/watch?v=8PuxuGamWUM

He literally cuts shit tons of taxes for workers faggot. And bringing back factories back too. And against trade deals that is bad for workers. While he could potentially wrong on specific policies, his direction is obviously helping workers.

Read

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Democrats represent nigger trannies and pedophiles. Nobody represents the middle class.

Their demographic has shifted to identity politics. Not sure how this is inconsistent with reality. Better just start believing it buddy.

The only way to "intellectually" understand this is that lefties have switched from Marxism to Frankfurt School. That's my only explanation.

Then why overwhelmingly white city middle-class liberals represent their bases?

I think many university workers are fucking mad how low prestige their job is considered and how shitty their job pays compared to trade people. Then they think that they would be more respected in a communistic society, where the capitalistic value of your job is determined by a bureacrat and not the markets.

Because they are weak people and think self-interest is sin, they will delude themselves into thinking they are doing it ''for the working class'' while they actually fight for more power to themselves.

I posit that SJW tactics all came from atheism.
>ad hom reliance
>deplatforming of opponents by refusing to peer review Intelligent Design research or take "creationist apologetics" as valid
>censorship of opponents who are public about their religious life
>well poisoning against evidence and studies favorable to the Bible
>reeee'ing if someone doesn't use their pronouns and sarcastically calls atheism a religion
>historical support for feminism, cultural enrichment
>ironic hypocritical support for Judaism and Islam
>muh patriarchy = muh judeo-Christian cabal
>friendliness towards degeneracy
>refusal to acknowledge that Christians are the most persecuted religion on earth

This is classical liberalism too. I tried to only use stuff that was prevelent when I was in my twenties, which was decades before SJWs became the scapegoat for all Leftists to "disavow"

>Trump and right-wings are now representatives for the workers
imagine being stupid enough to believe this

All what you said originally came from Frankfurt School

>Border security
>Negotiate fair deals
>Tax cuts for mid-class
>Uphold laws and orders
>Against endless illegal immigrants to take minimum jobs away from workers
>Bring back factories
>Lowest black unemployment
>Tariffs to protect american industries and workers

why is it so hard for you to stay on t_d, leave us alone

Imagine believing Trump is this archetypal Monopoly boogeyman, with a monocle and a top hat, and a big sack of money he keeps on his back that he stole from the poor innocent little black people.

and then you'll go back replying to blacked thread? gtfo

No, in Italy all workers rights, all pensions, all assited housing and benefits for large families and paid holidays and pensions were installed by Fascist govt.
The right has always been the friend of the working man, the left has always been the enemy.

I guess you missed the part where Republicans just passed the biggest corporate welfare bill in history.

Read And tax cuts for middle class and workers. And companies like Apple announced that they'll invest back and build factories back in US because of the tax cuts That's literal fact. That's capitalism.

Read up about Fascim in Italy and learn some history. Its not even open to discussion.

I know exactly what you mean, but in US there are no Fascist parties, especially right-wings are definitely not.

Also don't let propaganda get into you; Fascism is another form of left wing, because it's also big government and regulations. Anarchy and libertarianism is the real far-right.

Then atheists have historically been Frankfurt schoolers. They were all "cultural marxists" before GamerGate. Which should be a good thing, but not so. Instead of atheists seeing that their movement spawned the actual worst generation of weaklings imaginable, they stole right wing arguments, pretended they came up with them, revisioned history as if liberalism didnt cause SJW, and now we got faggots like Sargon and the liberalists claiming to have the cure the our cultural problem. But plot twist, their supposed cure is literally just the poison that caused the sickness with a different label over the old one.

Anarchism doesnt work, POUM soon found that out in Barcelona in Spanish civil war.
OK in principle but just a pipe dream in reality.

>while left-wings are now representatives for city middle-class liberals (bourgeoisie)?
That is not true at all
They only win cities because they are full of poor people

>that pic
does Rustle really lurk here?

Who here actually believes Trump benefits poor people?

Never said it would work, just said anarchy is the real far-right. Fascism (National Socialism) and Marxism, ironically enough, are the same far-left spectrum.

Agreed.

Anyone who sees their new tax cuts and get new jobs from reopened and newly opened factories

>They only win cities because they are full of poor people
Because those poor people fell for leftist propaganda for too long. If they actually read and hear directly from trump they would vote for him. But city mid-class liberals will oppose trump no matter what.

Let's get back to redpilled christianity folks
HHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHHAHAH *catches breath* HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

No one said anything about christianity britcuck

The left also supports businesses who want to undercut minimum wage by bringing in cheap brown slave labor from other countries.
While the right supports the American worker.

Oh should have guessed you were shilling Islam Ahmed

The left doesn’t represent the middle class either. They represent unemployable purple haired degenerates. Anyone who actually works should be voting republican.

Remember: The left, including Obama and Clinton and Schumer, used to support border control and against illegal immigrants. Look it up. DACA and open border was originally Koch Brother's idea.

please stop embarassing yourself

Not really, because I'm not historically illiterate so I recognize how easily conservatism and populism can go together.

Hey Pedes check out this #based Black guy who voted for trump

>ile left-wings are now representatives for city middle-class liberals (bourgeoisie)?
>What kind of timeline is this?
Things are getting back in the way it supposed to be. You need to read the beginnings of the GOP

i'm not black. And i didn't say anything wrong. Trump and rightwingers are civnats. If you want ethno-nat you need to find someone else.

I heard GOPs originally are for small businesses.

No quit revisionizing. Dems have infinite more years ahead campaigning for social politics because neoconservative have been busy sucking that corporate dick as part of the ambitions towards trickle down feconomics.

Communists have always been and will always be middle-class liberal bourgeoisie. They don't know what poverty is, they imagine something terrible and unjust, and they get buttflustered about their strawman to fill their empty days and their empty lives.