National Socialism

Is Nazism just as much an unreachable political utopia as Communism?

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Why do you think so?

the difference is that NatSoc kinda works

Communism goes against human nature.
Nazism goes with human nature.
Former works while latter self-destructs.
Both are reachable. But only NatSoc is sustainable.

Unlike the marxist faggots we don't say
>true nazism has never been tried
It was true nazism and it was nice as fuck

My thoughts are that its socialist economic policies would be anti-competitive creating a bubble similar to communist countries (like the soviet union collapsing).

also:
The totalitarian nature means a mentally ill leader if fully capable of destroying the country's wealth and well being of it's citizens.

It worked very well until most of the rest of the world teamed up against it.
The Übermensch is an unreachable utopian goal, but that's what it's supposed to be.

卐 - NATIONAL SOCIALIST ECONOMICS

One must understand that the socialism aspect of National Socialism isn't an economical one, it's rather a mindset/philosophical one.

It can be summed up as:
To each his own, but above all, the common interest before self interest.

>“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
>Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”
- Adolf Hitler 1938

AND your argument against totalitarian nature holds also true for democracy. The majority which is mentally ill is able to destroy the country.

Yes, so are all extremist systems. The one we currently live in is best. It's just niggers and mudslimes that ruin it for everyone.

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THIS IS NOW A NATIONAL SOCIALISM APPRECIATION THREAD

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Marxian communists aren't utopians.

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What about fascism in non-white countries, could they work also?

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Its coming.

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fascism =/= national socialism

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ok then:
What about National Socialism in non-white countries, could they work also?

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Google Libya before (((liberalization))).

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Both require violence are you ready to commit violence?

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YES

I am against communists

>Is Nazism just as much an unreachable political utopia as Communism?
No because it's race based and created by Whites.

Communism is Jewish and is based on feelings.

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Italy seemed to do pretty well for itself

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It worked on the first time it was applied, before requiring a world-coalition to destroy them.

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But Italy is white...

Extremism is unstable and temporary
There will be short intervals of extremism in the future, but most of the time, society will fall back to the center

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Just one or two guys can't do it that's the problem.

Fascism has also shown that the people rally behind it, whereas Marxist socialism/communism had the people suppressed

For 90% of European history most were what we would now consider "far right extremist".

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Most probably. I think first and foremost nationalism is love for one's country and nation, and taking pride in it. It's not about white supremacy. There's nothing stopping high-IQ, ethnically homogeneous nations to adopt that system and flourish.

Japan could do it. But it takes a population that is well-educated, martial, disciplined and focused if you want to convince the masses to get on with it.

I doubt it could really work in the west now that everyone is enjoying debauchery so openly.

It could certainly rise up in asian, non-white countries, no doubt.

considering Sup Forums's growing influence on the average internet user and US politics, i'd say it could be a matter of time.

Didn’t catch the context.
It was more of the statement that even though Germany had the spotlight for facism, Italy was also under facist govt and did quite well. They didn’t get stunted because of it, whereas every Slavic country that fell under USSR rule got their development and growth so stunted that they got pushed back into 2nd world classification

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Well it literally went 12 years strong, until kikes managed to intercept. They had no signs of large internal issues and any of the smaller issues were heavily outweighed by the incredible benefits.

That was only the beginning aswell. Imagine how Nazi Germany would look today if left untouched. I'd say what was accomplished there is infallible proof of the potential of fascism for success.

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I do believe young white me worldwide are reaching a boiling point.

In first world western countries it is absolutely impossible. It is still possible in any eastern european country or any non white country

It requires a homogeneous society

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Also, read this if you want to know a bit about Germany's NatSoc's economy

Dude, if Nazi Germany didn't just decide to invade other countries it may still be running today.

That was their fatal mistake, sometimes diplomacy is the best way to spread an idea and not violence.

It very much is be thankful that we arent currently living in that nightmare, these nazi larpers on Sup Forums dont understand what it means to leave in a totalitarian system with no way of expressing your view.

they're both so similar in my mind. the only difference being nazism is more realistic because it takes collectivism and binds it to common race. think about it, you don't want to work hard and get 50% taxed so some nigger sheboon can crap out a brood of kids that will rob you in 16 years.

here's the rub. nazism will never work because we are too mixed up culturally and racially at this point. we would have to implement massive amounts of extradition and killing just to get something approximating homogeny. aint gonna happen even though i think it has a better chance of working in the long run than international communism.

that's why i'm a capitalist. we can't squirt the milk back in the utter

That is not National Socialism, though, it's a pre-1933 wehrmacht memorial of the Battle of Tannenberg (which also involved the Teutonic Knights).

Yes, I'm autistic...

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That pic totally missed the artistic vision of Hitler / Speer. It looks more like a communist architecture.

>communist countries fall apart from their own greed
>nazism was only destroyed because a bunch of subhumans and retards got asshurt and hanged up against them

Seriously you’re a fucking dumb kike for even asking this question

The Marxist scum wouldn't have to put out so much propaganda if they weren't scared of it.

No, it's the ultimate solution for mankind. Which is why it was stopped.
Tradition, a steady family, one people, etc etc.. goes directly against the jewish agenda.

*ganged

Thought this was Hindenburgs funeral

You want one where your teachers lied look up the German African front in WW1 where the Germans resist the massively numerically superior British. The best part is how the Wikipedia article forgets to mention all the auxilliary blacks the British army used and how they died like flies, meanwhile the German Imperial army was like half black and did just fine.

You have got to give negroes some credit, they are genuinely good at fighting.

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If so, still not a NatSoc celebration...

Ludendorff > Hindenburg

>capitalist

You sound like you expect things to just stay the same, like some fucking retard who can’t comprehend basic demographic trends and race realism, and the fact that shitskins will outvote us and destroy everything western civilization has ever stood for creating a volatile situation where we could end up with anything from anarchy to tyranny

Poland starved and killed German ethnics and also planned to attack Germany.
USSR planned to attack Germany.
France and Great Britain declared War on Germany while ignoring several peace proposals. Hitler let go 300k UK soldiers because he thought good will is better than violence. Your "violent" Nazi Germany doesnt exist. Check real history.

remove the welfare state. take away any incentives for unproductive people to breed. let nature take its proper course. the creme will rise to the top.

right now, everything is artificially incentives so the worst have the most babies. with this in place, you are right. i can comprehend basic demographic trends and race realism. it's ez

you're not comprehending what im saying

You are right black folk can actually achieve something good, they just need good leadership

How did that van in the picture get into the space behind the bollards? There's a solid wall in front of it and a ramp behind it.

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the bollards probably go down into the ground at the push of a button

That's genius.

Now, let's look at actual socialist economics instead of this propoganda (the 25 point program)
We start at point 7, the first point pertaining to actual economics. (Most of it beforehand is related to Ein Volk)
>We demand that the statebe charged first with providing the opportunity for alivelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.
This tells us that the Reich was planning for structures to be put in place that will make life simpler simpler for the people. These are generally socialist and included """free""" healthcare. This is seen in 20, 21, 22 and partially25
We jump to 11
>Abolition ofunearned work and labour incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
This described the removal of the banks and the stock market. Both didn't happen during the reign as they did come to their senses and relied on them during the war.
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>We demand a division ofprofitsof allheavy industries.
Speaks for itself.
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>We demand an expansion on a large scale ofold age welfare.
More socialist programs
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>We demand aland reformsuitable to our needs, provision of a law for the freeexpropriationof land for the purposes of public utility, abolition oftaxes on landand prevention of allspeculationin land
I would agree with this if it wasn't for the expropriation part and prevention of speculation. In essence, the Nazis were going to take the means (land) and distribute it to Everyone

The Nazis had very similar policies to the ones we have now.

Germany had to invade other countries to a point. It was part of the reason why they were so successful. It was why they needed fascism.

I mean look at what they did for Czechoslovakia youtube.com/watch?v=tHvTnwNja24&ab_channel=Slavakris126

They needed a healthy relationship with their neighboring nations as well as a healthy relationship between land, population and resources.

Of course Roosevelt and Churchill used this as an excuse to say that Germany threatens the liberty of the western world. Despite the fact that in reality, they were restoring it.

Then the war on Germany began.

>Is Nazism just as much an unreachable political utopia as Communism?
In the United States, yes. National Socialism was propagated by Hitler's cult of personality. I would argue that without Hitler, there can be no National Socialism.

Every single American proponent of National Socialism (a GERMAN ideology) is pathetically reactionary and either naive/unstable. This doesn't mean that we can't inject something similar to National Socialism, but the amount of people on the far right that seem to literally want to bring back 1930's Germany (in fucking America) is a little demoralizing. It's hard to tell how many are just naive kids and how many are actual spergs.

Hitler himself was a pragmatist, and would probably shake his head with disgust at the legitimate sycophants who are overrunning the far-right movement in an attempt to achieve their own special brand of politics and spirituality at the cost of everything and everyone except for their own deluded egos. These people end up romanticizing themselves to such a degree that they end up becoming the very traitors they talk of executing. But that's a digression.

True National Socialism is dead, because it was centered around a single man who is no longer with us. We need to brave the storm and forge our own political path, instead of reverting to the comfort of a time we never knew.

>The Nazis had very similar policies to the ones we have now.
yeah true but now internationalism is what making a world to go to shit , nazis were ultranationalists

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>The Nazis had very similar policies to the ones we have now.
The 25 points were not policies lmao. But yeah. Europe did steal a whole lot of ideas from the NSDAP. I don't know why you're cucking to speculation so much. The expropriation bit would mainly apply to kikes and war profiteers, so who cares.

>Expelling non-citizens
That is Nat Soc in a nutshell im sorry
>End fractional reserve and (((banks)))
Creating money out of thin air is not a problem, ok. A whole system in control of people who want to destroy you is somewhat reasonable.
>Demanding profits from heavy industries
That is a just a tax. Very unusual..
>Welfare
Homogeneous societies can have welfare. If you know, like and trust your neighbors you share. If you hate and distrust your society because it consists of 124 factions and ethnicities you wont share your wealth.