Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio George Lincoln Rockwell Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
Logan Lewis
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Logan Morris
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Julian Clark
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Matthew Wilson
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Thomas Baker
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Xavier Taylor
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Kayden Phillips
I want to turn America into an Imperalist State. >Add Fat-Tax so tax payers don't have to pay for their obesity and eating issues. >Sieze control of the federal reserve and make it state-run >cut any HRT, planned parenthood, funding >abolish private-controlled Rehab systems and replace it with Governemt controlled rehab systems >remove illegal immigrants, and replace their jobs (blowing leafs, picking up trash, etc) with troubled youth >purchase western Canada and connect Alaska and the homeland >annex baja California from Mexico >annex panama >turn America into a #1 Steel export country by industalizing the south and east >lowering smoking, and drinking age to 18 >raise anti-depressant usage to 21
Josiah James
I don't want to annex Mexico or California...
Lincoln Perez
Why not, you're not a cuck are you? >mexico lets their people flood in here with no enforcement of general law and just pure laziness >could be used for Naval and military bases >could execute cocain cartels while we're there
Thomas Taylor
>Adolf Hitler >good fascist
good grief. really? he completely soiled fascism with his master race bullshit.
Oliver Bennett
Ayoo And I want my State to remain in Mexico, let's call it even >Cocaine >Mexico Hohohoho, you know nothing about the production of coke >b& worker's party mods are fags, I see
Parker Ross
Hello, taco bro.
Adam Wright
Just read SIEGE.
Brandon Allen
God, I wish that was me Hi there
Luke Foster
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Nathaniel Jenkins
How tall is Codreanu?
Ethan Parker
Only God and his wife know I would say 1.01 Cornelius with a .01 margin of error
Mason Wright
I heard he meditated during his free time.
Jaxon Taylor
Manny did it, the "New thinking" is very similar in origin to some fascist ideas (specially with Evola)
Carter Adams
Mosley met with Roosevelt, no?
Michael Thomas
I knwo that he went to America, but who he meet there I ignore
Ryan Brown
What a cool guy, he must have been pretty fun to hang around.
Angel Taylor
Roosevelt was said to admire Mussolini in private and was also close friends with Mosley.
Owen Bennett
"For my legionarres" by Codreanu is a very good read. Look for its PDF version online; striking author justifies fascism and the extermination of Jews with Christian doctrine
Zachary Bennett
he was a better orator than Hitler, /fa/ af, level-headed, after the war he was still a bad goy, did not hated da j00s but he neither deny thier activities. Wholesome/10 That interview he had when he was older, where the presenter and the public mock him and, while he stayed truth to his principles, he seemed almost defeated. It breaks my hearth Is it true that Corneliu was ten times more antisemitic than Hitler?
Jaxson Howard
>This is for jesus, Goldstein >*gunshot*
Noah Allen
He sounds like it. Hitler regarded Jews as enemies of the state. Codreanu regarded them enemies of the state AND Christ. I believe he was more of an extremist than Hitler was
Cameron Jackson
Based, that was from the nationalist alliance of the spanish civil war, the nationalist victory for europa against the commies.
Benjamin White
>Codreanu regarded them enemies of the state AND Christ That is true, only Neo-Pagans claim Jesus was a jew. >N-no pasaran...
Kevin Parker
He was pretty tall according to Evola.
Gavin Morgan
Noice, I guess freemasons will get the bullet too
>Esto es por Maximiliano de Hasburgo >*gunshot*
Joseph Wright
I'll save that for later.
Matthew Green
>tfw the heir of the Holy Roman Empire died thanks to a literal jealous midget
Sebastian Kelly
>Mexico I-I can explain!
Brandon Lopez
>One of the only Mexican leaders to actually care for Mexico was an Austrian. Who was Mexico's best President?
John Bailey
Got some questions for you. Try to convert a minarchist with fascist sympathies. >What does the economy look like under fascism? >Does the dictator have absolute power? >How do you prevent the dictator from consolidating power/violently controlling the citizenry? >How is the dictator chosen? >What if the dictator is evil or becomes unfit to rule? >Many dictatorships start with a benevolent ruler which is succeeded by a complete asshole. How do you prevent this degeneration? >What level of control does the government exert over citizens in daily life?
Jayden Anderson
does fascism work?
Xavier Perez
How could you.
Hunter Lee
Porfirio was TECHNICALLY president (Look at those numbers, brah) But I will say something unpopular; he fucked up big time and did ignored manny aspects of Mexican culture in order to accelerate economic progress There was a commie revolutionand our president was a commie. Commies help commies and we accepted a shit ton of spanish refugees
Xavier Brooks
>What does the economy look like under fascism? That is based on what type, in which there are many, like Corporatism, National Socialism, National Syndicalism, etc >Does the dictator have absolute power? No >How do you prevent the dictator from consolidating power/violently controlling the citizenry? Overthrow him if he abuses power
William Reyes
Have you ever heard of the American Blackshirt Party? They seem kind of larpy and don't believe in the JQ.
Nathaniel Hall
Who was your president during the Spanish Civil War. No, not at all. Are they at least competent or are they just neo nazis like pic related.
Jaxon Richardson
I follow them on tumblr (yes, I use it), they seem alright. They don't go full "Gotta keep them negro people away fro' giving me the shingles" but aside from talk I have never seen them doing anything nor they stick out from the crowd, unlike groups in Europe Lázaro Cárdenas Nationalized oil and did pretty ok from the most part, but he was also leftist af and manny of the things he created slowly degenerated
Ayden Edwards
>What does the economy look like under fascism? Usually a corporate structure (different sections of society divided into specialist groups, with the intention of maximum efficiency).
>Does the dictator have absolute power? A strong leader is an essential component of fascism. A parliament of sorts has existed within all fascist states. A truly fascist dictator would want to be held accountable to their actions.
>How do you prevent the dictator from consolidating power/violently controlling the citizenry? Internal/military coup.
>How is the dictator chosen? Initially or after the regime has been established? Initially, they can come to power through a variety of ways (democracy, revolution, etc.). New dictators are chosen using the wisdom and knowledge of the existing dictator.
>What if the dictator is evil or becomes unfit to rule? Already been answered.
>Many dictatorships start with a benevolent ruler which is succeeded by a complete asshole. How do you prevent this degeneration? More of a "what if" than real critique.
>What level of control does the government exert over citizens in daily life? As much as neccessary.
Parker Morales
No, they condemn white nationalist and neo nazis.
Brody Russell
They're good as fascists but are too civic nationalist for my liking
Brody Turner
I've considered joining, but idk like you said they don't really do much.
Jordan Wood
I agree
Chase White
based
Brayden Lee
The average person is so concerned about losing friends, family or their career - they won't even go as far to post an infographic on FB, let alone be outspoken in public. Where do people draw the line? A real fascist shouldn't give two flying fucks about what other people care about him. He should be willing to die for his cause - not be afraid of a stupid politically correct society.
Gavin Morris
Hello, /fsg/
Can i have fashy pepes? in particular the ones where he's smeared in blood and loading a.. mouser pistol I believe
or one where hes wearing a mask, holding an AK with degenerates hanging behind him
Those really do it for me
Daniel Hughes
Who are some prominent pan-European thinkers other than Mosley?
Wyatt Perry
back to the_donald
Eli Sanders
Really? i always thought he was a good guy...
Luis Lopez
but... does fascism work?
Ian Wright
Francis Parker Yockey and Kai Murros
Jaxon Hughes
Link to the interview?
Colton Collins
>le putins playpen meme
no thank you
I just like looking at radicalized pepes. But im not autistic enough to actually save them because they would be hard to explain in the event of hardware compromise
fashism is a meme by the way :^)
-t radical communalist
Liam Harris
How about we talk about American Fascists?
Henry Morris
Ok so, I'm aware that in the United states all states must have a Republican form of government however I was wondering if that applies to local town governments. Could a town or city council vote to dissolve itself and place the legislative power with the mayor? I'm a fascist and I'd like to run for mayor of my town but I need to know if I would even be able to get things done.
Blake Anderson
Only have the GI version.
Nolan Taylor
These kinds of questions are fun >>What does the economy look like under fascism? Depends on the nation greatly, but expect the market serving the people and not the other way around, but also expect competition and hard-working individuals living better. But in general, Corporatism >>Does the dictator have absolute power? Yes and no. Manny democratic aspects are trown away and he does have a lot of power, but everything within law >>How do you prevent the dictator from consolidating power/violently controlling the citizenry? Strong Volk, Small government >>How is the dictator chosen? Depends on the system, by merit, the senate chooses him or ever it could be a hereditary position. I am fan of mixing the first, second and third, the royal family having manny children and then having the senate choose among those children based on the attitudes and merit based on what they have shown by giving their service pre-coronation >>What if the dictator is evil or becomes unfit to rule? R E V O L U T I O N (JK, there should be legislative mechanisms for that) >>Many dictatorships start with a benevolent ruler which is succeeded by a complete asshole. How do you prevent this degeneration? Have the process be more meritocratic or eliminate tribalism completely >>What level of control does the government exert over citizens in daily life? The worse you behave the more pressure The better you behave the more the gov will leave you do your things The smaller you are the less you will deal with the gov The bigger you are the more gov oversight you will experience
Look, this are my opinions, in actuality there is no universal law book for fascist countries. Fascism is a worldview, not a political/economic/social philosophy I never would have thought that Coronel Sanders could be a fascist!
David Morales
Are you going to try and turn those pepes into communist versions?
Aiden Sullivan
/fsg/ am I /fa/scist?
Aye, if one is afraid it means that in their minds the idea of losing is still a possibility. Also, if someone starts hating you because of something as pitiful as politics then they are not worth keeping >FACT People are more understanding with handsome people. If you want to be a bad goy be attractive People change with the age, if you act as if you were Mussolini they you will only scare people off
Grayson Barnes
I'm openly fascist with my family and with a few friends, I'm not worried about being politically correct and I don't care what people think of me
Owen Williams
That man is actually William Dudley Pelley. Founder of the Silver Legion, America's probably first Fascist group.
Ryan Ward
no because i lack the ability (and will) to do so
its just that righty memes are top tier and it satisfies the violent impulses that i cant express to leftists because faggots and women cannot into utilitarianism
thanks, shame it doesnt look as unhinged wihtout the iron cross and shit
Andrew Rivera
>with his master race bullshit. What exactly was wring with that? Mussolini adopted the 3rd Reich's race laws, so why are you against it?
Wyatt Anderson
Good goy
Connor Myers
Kiwi, you have to admit that National Socialism, when actually comparing it to other ideologies, it a lot more unstable.
Chase Perez
>People are more understanding with handsome people. If you want to be a bad goy be attractive This. Great advice Mexibro. I look forward to the fascist revolution in Mexico. Dress nice. Look nice. get /fit/.
Jayden Allen
No, it the most successful ideology of the 20th century, objectively. Even more successful than its enemies in WW2, taken individually.
Jace Barnes
I mean when compared to other Fascist ideologies.
James Clark
bump
Dylan Ortiz
It was stable until practically the whole world decided it had to be destroyed, all because international Jewry managed to deceive them into believing it was dangerous to their precious democracy and freedom..
Hudson Rivera
No, I meant what I said, shall we review? >3rd reich privatized all but two of its nationalized major industries; they invented the modern term "privatization" >New Deal in US was based on economic policy of Feder/Schact, but US version was less efficient >Mussolini was propped up financially by the 3rd Reich, and militarily in Greece >Franco was also subsidized by the German economy, and propped up militarily during its civil war >3rd Reich had higher GDP than any European nation from 1930-1939 >3rd Reich GDP continued to rise virtually uninterrupted until 1945, despite war >3R debt-to-GDP ratio constantly shrank >3R GNP constantly grew until 1945 >3rd Reich provided incentives for women to stay at home, reducing women in the workforce by 15%, without loss of productivity and a simultaneous tripling of birthrates The list goes on, but those are sufficient to prove the point.
Aaron Allen
Anyone got some rare Codreanus?
Colton Cruz
Fag General?
Angel Gray
> I look forward to the fascist revolution in Mexico. No pressure, right? I want to at least make a bakery first
Jonathan Rodriguez
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Luis Hall
To be fair, Franco's Spain did great during the 60s and 70s. They were improving during the 50s.
Ryan Nguyen
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Carson Nguyen
At least you don't expect yourself to be the full on president of Mexico, unlike most Communist who believe they will get to be a card carrying member.
John Hall
Yeah they did, but that was decades after Hitler literally kept them afloat and safe from communist subversion directed by Moscow. Without Germany, Spain would have been communist.
Ayden Martin
> Salazar Come on... He was a conservative authoritarian, not a Fascist.
Ethan Thomas
>What does the economy look like under fascism? Corporate structure. State and Business work together to produce what's best for the nation. Private ownership and profit are a okay. >Does the dictator have absolute power? Sorta >How do you prevent the dictator from consolidating power/violently controlling the citizenry? Revolution >How is the dictator chosen? Best person to be dictator will end up dictator from a ton of different ways. >What if the dictator is evil or becomes unfit to rule? Then he wouldn't have become dictator. >Many dictatorships start with a benevolent ruler which is succeeded by a complete asshole. How do you prevent this degeneration? I suggest paternal lineage or military meritocracy. Both of these people will have a connection with the nation and people and will be less likely to abuse them. >What level of control does the government exert over citizens in daily life? Totalitarian-esque. But we can't be afraid of things like that. It would sound bad to a minarchist, but you have to understand that there is already totalitarianism, be it from a government or businesses. Businesses nowadays exert extreme power over people. We just say give that power to the man who wants what's best for you.
Brayden Hall
It's called a fasces use the politically correct term
David Hill
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Hudson Hall
>swastika hats kek, are they real? They honestly look kind of shopped.
Alexander Parker
He called it "Christian Corporatism". It sounds pretty fashy to me. Franco was more of a conservative authoritarian.
Alexander Williams
Sorry if I made it seem that way Mexibro. You do you.
Luke Morris
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Nathan Young
The Swastika is the oldest known cross in Europe. It was once the most common cross in Europe. You still see it often in the orthodox churches.
Austin White
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Landon Thomas
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Josiah Ramirez
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Anthony Cox
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Oliver Baker
Serious question here. Did Mussolini actually do something good for Italy? All (((textbook))) sources claim that he never achieved what he intended i.e make South Italy great again and establish collaboration between employees and employers, but those who were actually in Italy during that time claim the opposite.
Adam Ramirez
I got this. I’ll get my sweet but loose claim to the throne (ancestor was the first viceroy of new Spain)
