The NYT has a point, 16 year olds should vote

>“Unfortunately, when it comes to electing lawmakers whose decisions about gun control and other issues affect their lives, these high schoolers lack any real power. This needs to change: The federal voting age in the United States should be lowered from 18 to 16.

>Skeptics will no doubt raise questions about the competence of 16-year-olds to make informed choices in the voting booth. Aren’t young people notoriously impulsive and hotheaded, their brains not fully developed enough to make good judgments?”

>“In addition to the scientific case for lowering the voting age, there is also a civic argument. Consider the dozen or so countries like Argentina, Austria, Brazil and Nicaragua that allow people to vote at 16 in national, state or local elections. In such countries, voter turnout among 16- and 17-year-olds is significantly higher than it is among older young adults.”

nytimes.com/2018/03/02/opinion/sunday/voting-age-school-shootings.html

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Teenagers suffer from school shootings, they deserve to have the vote since they receive the brunt of the violence. How can you be against that, huh pol?

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>must pass regulations stopping teenagers eating tidepods
>teenagers should be trusted with privilege of voting in society
kys faggot.

If people can't drink or own guns until they're 21, they shouldn't be able to vote, drive, or smoke either.

>just imagine, we could be south america
what the fuck is wrong with NYT

>not finished with basic education
>shoukd vote
kek

Fuck no, 16 year olds don't know shit about the world, you shouldn't be allowed to vote unless you've been paying income tax for at least 5 years.

There's a reason we don't let kids vote or drink or work in the salt mines! They're idiots!

Their "scientific case" is based on research indicating 16 year olds are capable of making logical decisions, but conveniently ignores that there is research displaying that the ability to delay gratification for future benefit is not fully developed until 25. I would much rather we raise the minimum age to 25 rather than lower it.

Also
>Consider the dozen or so countries like Argentina, Austria, Brazil and Nicaragua that allow people to vote at 16 in national, state or local elections
Do we REALLY want our country to become like those countries? I know for a fact that Brazil has practically zero middle class. What a great government elected by 16 year olds it must have!

It's funny that it's in the "Gray Matter" section because your prefrontal cortex (necessary for logical decision making) doesn't fully develop until around age 25.

>Lauren (((Steinberg)))
Opinion discarded. No... Opinion fundamentally wrong.

No too many fuckers vote already. We don't need any more fucking voters.

...they eat laundry soap.

Refresh my memory, what demographic was it that was most recently experiencing a fad that involved eating laundry detergent?

>STEINBERG
That is the most Jewish name I have ever witnessed.

anyone who doesnt sage this post should just kill themselves. This is such obvious b8 and the majority will squabble amongst themselves in these comments bumping it to the top of the catalog. Meanwhile Alex Jones and the rest of the internet is being purged.

Yeah no shit voter turnout would be higher among 16-17 year olds, most high schools double as voting stations, they would be herded there during lunch hour by their (((social studies teachers))) after a long lecture about the importance of social justice and gay rights and white privilege. Just because there would be more votes among the 16 year olds does not mean it's a good reason to give them the vote, or that they are rational political actors, and the fact that high schoolers are so overwhelmingly liberal indicates you perhaps have an ulterior motive at work in attempting to drop the voting age, doesn't it?

The comments are surprisingly good. The earlier ones call it nothing more than a plot to expand their base.

the DNC is out of money and credibility, if they cant bring in immigrants to vote for them they'll use child soldiers

16 year olds with jobs should be able to vote. No taxation without representation

i geniunely cannot believe they are actually pushing the 16 thing.

I looked it up, it was pushed internationally a few years ago. It is now in the US because of the Florida wonder kinds.

All those tax contributions from 16 year olds.

The vote should only be given to male tax payers over 18. Now go kys

The girl in the booth is obviously the brown lesbian of meme fame. She is going to the figure head of democrats for years until she inevitably becomes an obese fuck with anger issues.

It should be raised to 21. Even 18 year old kids are still retarded

Notice the guy which represents the evils white male trump vpter. He is angry that the teens are "standing up for their rights and lives"

16 yr olds cant even scratch their butts

If they raise the age to 20-21 for firearms purchases, how can they simultaneously justify this position? A responsible citizen should be trusted with bearing arms as well as carrying out the vote.

Let me guess the reason it's because they're all little commies who don't like guns so they figure they'll vote Democrat.

Liberal Logic: 18-20 year olds aren't mature enough to own a firearm or drink a beer but 16 year olds are mature enough to vote. If anything, the voting age should be raised back to 21.

The author says there is 'hot' and 'cold' reasoning skills. Teens are impulsive (no guns allowed) but awesome at critical thinking so they should vote.

holy shit this

"Rosensteinenburg"
I've actually seen that one before.

well, democracy really goes for mass, and whatnot, so who cares, let it burn.

>but amurikka was always a democracy

yeah. where white landowners were the only ones allowed to vote.

and european kingdoms ended officialy only a century ago.

it took a single century to make the west fully retreat... i say do it, fuck it all.

3 words for why that is a stupid idea: Tide Pod Challenge

they can vote only if they sign up for selective service like any legal citizen does. you wouldn't believe how many 16 year olds opt out of voting when they understand that if you vote like the adults you are expected to take the responsibility to the US as an adult. also 16 year olds are dumb as fuck and only care about muh weed and muh free shit. if they have to vote on something like grants or taxes that effect people that actually fucking work and are actually apart of the economy that is either buying and or saving money . they will totally fuck it up.

Yeah alright let’s let 8 year olds vote
16 is not good enough
The oppression of the children has gone on long enough throughout our history
Blacks had their turn
Woman had theirs
It’s time for the youth of the world to take back their future and to not allow all the adults decide what happens when they are going to be dead anyways

Democrats use dead voters. Get caught
Switch their plan to have illegal immigrants vote
Get out played by a wall.
Democrats look around and realize they can't win a fair election.
We should let children vote.

Deal, as long as we can also lower age of consent to 16 in every state.

>don't pay taxes
>teenagers are notoriously dumb and easily persuaded
They will literally do anything for attention
>don't affect the US in any significant way until they're a bit older
By this logic literal children should be able to vote because 'there are laws that affect children'

Essential liberties are not based on economic output, I don't agree with it either but that's not a reason to deny someone the right to vote

build the wall and enforce ccw reciprocity, then deal

>heheh I can drive around the block to school so let me elect the populists

Democracy is already disgustingly generous with who can vote.

You tell 'em, Scooter

Lmao, 18 is already way too low. It should be 25 at a MINIMUM.

You SHOULD be 25 to vote, so you have dealt with adult life. I'll settle for 21.

But what if I used to be a neet?

If anything we should be restricting votership.

Please read what you wrote aloud and then look at your flag and then take a moment to use that big brain of yours and see how that all works out.

>Don't pay income tax
>Can't be conscripted
>Still living under your parents roof
Yeah, nah, you're a cunt

do it faggot

????

Land owning whites should vote.

source?

If sixteen year olds didn't agree with the NYT editorial board's positions, they wouldn't be agitating for their suffrage. Just shameless

I’m all for giving globalists everything they want and watching the world burn
> not a larp
It’s obvious what they want and that’s to destroy humanity, i’d Feel more comfortable playing survival of the fittest in a world where it’s lawless then having to play by Jew rules and watching them destroy it slowly

democracy is a meme system

>implying the first president elected after 16 year olds were allowed to vote didn't got impeached

should raise the voting age to 25 and limit it to landowners

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Why 16 why not vote from birth

Anybody who BELEVES this shit should be executed. REEEEEEEE

You and your 16 years olds can go fuck off and die.

Not far enough, BIGOT. The fact that a voting age even EXISTS in 2018 is offensive and AGEIST. ALL of peoplekind should be able to vote.
>b-but toddlers don't have the mental capacity to vote, they're not adults or even cl-
Yeah, I've heard enough, CISAGE NAZI SCUM. ALL PEOPLEKIND IS EQUAL. #abolishvotingage

People shouldnt be voting until theyre 21 seriously

Do they just want teens to be able to vote because they're stupid and easy to manipulate?

we should lower the age at which a woman can have to 16

we should lower the age at which a woman can have sex to 16

When I was 16 I only cared about playing Ratchet and Clank, fapping, & making sure I passed my algebra 2 test.

>steinberg
when your shitty opinions are identical to teenage angst and naivete. No one over the age of 30 thinks 16 year olds should vote, if anything voting needs to be restricted to 30 and up and can't be on any form of government subsidy.

>NYT has a point, 16 year olds should vote
From this I deduce that NYT has reporters with the mental capabilities of a US 16 year-olds raised by television and '''liberal''' teachers. Complete with a severe lack of understanding long term consequences.

Using that logic, we should let fetuses vote because abortion laws affect them but they lack any real power. We should let animals vote because laws affect them.

"But other countries do it, too!" And? There are countries where nobody can vote. Should you take away voter rights from everyone just because some other countries do that?

Can we all just take a minute and thank a laundry detergent for giving us the ammunition to fight back against this idiocy

You shouldn't be allowed to vote either

Notice that the lower birth rate countries are all countries with more liberal sex education in schools :thinking:

this country is dead

Let's look at the New York Times.

Top Leadership. The following leading roles are held by Jews:
>Chairman & Vice Chairman
>Publisher & Deputy Publisher
>Managing Editor & Deputy Managing Editor
>President/CEO (spouse) & Chief Operating Officer
>*At least* 7 out of 13 Board members are Jewish, and *at least* 7 out of 14 Executive Committee members are Jewish.

The Editor-in-chief of the following NYT sub-publications are Jewish:
>NYT Editorial Page, NYT Global Edition, NYT Magazine, NYT Style Magazine, NYT Live Journal, and NYT Biz Day. It appears that the only sub-publication left is the NYT Book Review, whose last editor-in-chief was Jewish (and whose current editor-in-chief may be Jewish, but it’s unclear)

Bureau Chiefs. The Bureau Chiefs for the following offices are Jewish:
>Washington DC, Los Angeles, London, Paris, Rome, Berlin, Central & Eastern Europe (Warsaw), Jerusalem, South Asia, and Australia. In other words, the capital of most of the largest Western countries: the USA, the UK, France, Italy, Germany, Poland, and Australia.

Chief Correspondents. The following “Chief” correspondents are Jewish:
>Chief National, Chief International, Chief Political, Chief Domestic Affairs, Chief Diplomatic, Chief European Business Correspondents, Chief Mergers & Acquisitions, Chief White House, and Chief Military Correspondent. Only one of the NYT’s current “Chief” Correspondent positions was held by a non-Jew – the Chief Washington Correspondent.

Just what we need, more retards voting.

>waiting few years magically gives retards a boost of intelligence

>we should extend the right to vote for the most gullible part of population that hardly has any working or family experience so that it's easily impressed by lefty lunatics and their promises or vote for a candidate just because some rap nigger and pop whore made a concert for them
>all of this while the same left questions the education and intellectual levels of drumpf voters forgetting about obama's blacks
USRAEL YES!

At last I truly see, it was a masonic plot to cuck the kikes and end their insidious gun grabbing platform before it could start

No, but it makes sure that the ones stupid enough to kill themselves before 18 don't vote.

Yes user, in 95% of cases that is exactly what happens.
There's a reason we adjust iq for age.

NYT is completely owned by jews. The author of the article is Lauren (((Steinberg))). She's arguing for a lower voting age ONLY because the youngsters would be for banning guns. She's an agent of the jewish corporate NWO that wants to enslave the human race.

Why can’t they just vote in two years?

It’s almost like dumb shit kids realize how retarded they are when they become adults.

(((Steinberg)))

They’re doing it because they though they could steamroll everything with 18 to 25 year olds but somehow that didnt work so they keep going lower and lower.

>muh 8 year old’s feelings

This is the ULTIMATE jewish trick.
They control the media, and the media controls the kids.

Democracy has failed.

Only land-owning men over the age of 25 should vote.

>Raise the voting age, the legal unmarried mother age, the gun age, the tobacco age, and the porn age to 21-25
Western Civilization saved.

Tell that to the jews who run the scene.

yikes, the 1984 type Newspeak is beginning to work.
>liberal sex education in schools
used to mean that the teachers explained exactly what was going on both on the psychological level but especially on the physical level. With graphic descriptions of what happens and what is going to happen if/then style.
Now
>liberal sex education in schools
means pic related. I'm guessing that you mean the former type of sex-ed, which in Newspeak would be the conservative one

This right here. When individuals ages as old as 23 commit crimes or do stupid things, the media and even the law is quick to diminish responsibility by stating that they are young and lack experience. And yet, in the same breath the same excuse makers now want 16 year olds to vote. Why 16? No reason or justification, it just sounds reasonable. Yet, scientific evidence shows us that the cognitive development happens until 25. I would argue for pushing voting ages up rather than down.

I'm not sure exactly what your point is, half the US is still abstinence only education

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everything turns blue

this

>19 year olds shouldnt have babies
talk about revealing your kike agenda

To be fair, humans undergo an intense biological development all the way up to the late teens, and even a couple of years in this process yield significant changes, including cognitive maturation.

So yes, waiting a few years does "magically" give boosts of intelligence in the case of adolescents.

Thomas Friedman and David Brooks should be stripped of their right to vote and deported to Israel.

>Steinberg
Like clockwork