Redpill on Greece

I want to know
>why they're broke
>why they're kept broke
>why their history is being undermined by slavs from FYROM

I need to know

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>why they're broke

Deep seated cultural aversions to power, authority and taxpaying stemming from centuries of brigandage and guerilla warfare against the Turk combined with German lenders throwing money at them that they could never pay off

>>why they're kept broke

The Troika imposed brutal austerity measures on them that has basically fucked their society despite it being them that nonsensically loaned the money to the Greeks in the first place. They are now essentially in a form of debt slavery.

>why their history is being undermined by slavs from FYROM

Slavs crossed over the Danube and settled on a shit load of Greek land as far south as the Peloponnese. Those said Slavs never needed nationalism until independence in the late 20th century, so they had to come up with bullshit in order to avoid a serious identity crisis. It just means that they end up pissing off their neighbours that actually have a somewhat valid claim to the heritage of Macedon due to Alexander's pretensions at being a Hellene.

Also they actually have a labor economy, not producing tech, resources, exports. Tourism isn't properly taxed (sales tax). The people actually make decent income, but there are too many entitlements for growth, and too many other good options for business.

Social democracy destroyed Greece. The country was run by socialists who traded useless public sector jobs for political patronage. The upshot was that ultimately Greece's economy didn't produce shit but tax revenue to pay an army of rent seeking bureaucrats.

>why they're broke
socialism
>why they're kept broke
Jews, corruption and sucking at math
>why their history is being undermined by slavs from FYROM
they realized that Greece won't do shit to stop them

Alexander/Ancient Macedonia was clearly an Ancient Greek Kingdom. Trying to take it is silly when all credible evidence/sources debunk them.

And is there a chance Greece will ever recover?

>And is there a chance Greece will ever recover?
Economy is starting to look better already but the problem is the EU. We will always be second class citizens to westerners.

>when you mix different ethnies in one country

>>why they're broke
Because they're lazy

>>why they're kept broke
Because they're still lazy

>>why their history is being undermined by slavs from FYROM
Because they live next to a troll country and instead of just ignoring them they actually let them get to them.

>Alexander/Ancient Macedonia was clearly an Ancient Greek Kingdom

That isn't strictly speaking true, and the modern Greeks are guilty of some level of bullshit when they say this. Ancient Greeks did not consider Macedonians to be Greek, and the Macedonians were essentially LARPing we wuzzers at the time. Eventually people stopped caring when Philip conquered the shit out of them. They were considered drunken, peasant illiterate quasi-barbarians up until that point.

Modern Greeks definitely have more of a claim to the region and name than a bunch of actual bumfuck peasant Slavs that invaded in the 500s.

>it being them that nonsensically loaned the money to the Greeks in the first place.

No it wasn't.

When you don't know what you are posting so you throw an irrelevant line along with it.

>why they're broke
Mainly because of being incompetent. Committed fraud for years until it imploded and spent like madmen on personal wages.
>why they're kept broke
Because they made deals with (((bankers))) who are exploiting this for profit
>why their history is being undermined by slavs from FYROM
Monkeydonians decided they don't want to be ordinary Slavo-Turkic Bulgarians so they created this artificial ''Macedonian'' national identity descending directly from Alexander's left nut, out of thin air after the breakup of Yugoslavia.

Mostly Athenians like Demosthenes for political/ideological reasons. Ancient Macedonia had a feudal system which contrasted the rest of Ancient Greece too, but yeah you are right to a degree.
Can Greece free itself from the bankers?

This

>We will always be second class citizens to westerners.

Well of course.

Why would we consider you our equals when you're never had our level of development?
North-Western Europe has been better than the rest of Europe for many centuries, that's not going to change overnight.
In 300BC you would think the same of us.

Voting a really right-wing government (i.e.: Golden Dawn) and declaring the debt as null. In short words, pull a Hitler with the Treaty of Versailles.

>Because they made deals with (((bankers))) who are exploiting this for profit

Not true at all.
The bankers dumped their toxic assets on the German, French and Dutch taxpayers.
And we're not going to simply wave those debts because we already have a hard time paying our own debts.

>Once gays always gay...
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You only have more developed economy than us and that's only for the last couple of decades. Beside that your society is already collapsing, so try not to act so superior dude.
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>won't do shit to stop them
They placed a brief embargo which crippled them and were begged by the UN to stop.

"To the Romans, we owe our sense of sanitary science, to the Hebrews, we owe our idea of God, and to the Greeks, we owe everything else."

Western civilization wouldn't exist without Greece, it's painful to see it in the shape it's in today

Get well soon, momma Greece....

reddit is a better place if you want to know something about Greece

oh hell no mate G.D. might be right wing but they are retarded as fuck... i personally would never vote for them

Why does Sup Forums call Greeks, Turks?

Greek culture and religion remained untouched for 400 years under Ottoman Empire. Greece even today is 99%+ Orthodox.

So apparently Le 56% percenters are pure whites. Meanwhile according to Sup Forums no Greeks exist, and the entire population was replaced by Turks.

Does Sup Forums even know that there wa Greek city states in not only Greece and its islands, but there was Greek city states in Anatolia, from far back as at least 1000 BC, a few thousand years before Ottomans or Turks existed. Oh there were also Greek colonies in Italy centuries before the Romans.

Modern Greece would be a Muslim majority country if the Turk rape baby meme was actually true. Instead it’s 99% orthodox.

The reality is the Ottomans and modern day Turks are literally a mixture Greeks, Arabs and Asians.

The more white looking Turks have more Greek blood.

The more dark looking Turks have more Arab blood.

The more Asian looking Turks have more Asian blood.

The Turks are the actual mutts here, not the Greeks.


P.S Ergodan looks like he has majority Greek blood.

>only for the last couple of decades.

Since the 15th century at least

Look no further than this ape

You mean when the Byzantine empire fell and the Greek scholars moved to the west? I guess you can say that but it's not really fair to compare you with us the when we were under Ottoman rule. Anyway, as i said all that belong to the past. Now your societies are rapidly collapsing and your muh GDP wont help you on that.

Don't forget those who have slightly darken skin tone but have very European features, those guys have Armenian ancestry

For some reason retarded spergs think this is how shit went down in 1454:

>Mehmet, you have come from far in the east-
will you stay now, here in our glorious new Capitol Instanbul? We have harems full of cheap slave girls from around the world. We have silks, gems, and exotic foods entering our ports each day. The leading men of science, art, culture, and sport from across the empire have gathered from across our empire into our great city. There is plenty of work and opportunity, the court is full of potential wives, every delicacy our world can offer is but a short walk from our grand holmes and elaborate palaces. You can get rich and everything is plentifull!

>"Nawh, I think I'll go to some disease ridden backwater balkan village where everyone wants to kill me and try to rape their women. Sure I could stay here and just buy one with literally zero risk, but I'd much rather deprive myself of all luxury and instead risk my life raping random village girls in isolated mountain communities filled with brigands and mercenaries with an unyielding thirst to kill the invader. I just like a challenge, you know?

Have you ever considered that your ((((government and media)))) is pushing a bullshit narrative on you about Greece in order to create a D&C strategy on Europe to distract from the real problems you guys are facing now? Have you ever thought there might be ((((other forces at play)))) in Greece and the Netherlands? That maybe you two aren't actually enemies.

Besides, you have a serious Turk problem of your own. I wouldn't shit on Greece for that. At least they were invaded by force and resisted, you're government literally threw the doors open and paid them to come and rape your women.