Now that the dust has settled, was Charlottesville ultimately a good or a bad thing for the far right?

Now that the dust has settled, was Charlottesville ultimately a good or a bad thing for the far right?

Anything IRL is good. The media can turn anything on its ass if it wants to. The best thing anyone can do is ignore it.

It made them all look like fucking retards.

Real torches and Eagle Standards next time, nigger.

the event was great
us pussyfooting around it, denouncing it and otherwise not standing in solidarity with the people there and their actions, however, was poison to our movement and fucked us completely

Well said leaf.

It brought the alt right more into the spotlight, anything else those people might have done would have been met with the same resistance by the jews.

El Goblino...

I was only vaguely aware of "the alt-right" before then, and now I'm a sympathizer who agrees with certain alt-right ideas. It was probably their biggest "recruiting" success, ever, in terms of actually getting new people to look into their message. But it also killed their "street activism," because it created a fairly sharp division where open alt-righters get fired, harassed, etc. So I suspect the alt-right is bigger than it was before that march, but also not as visible, oddly enough.

Sup Forums cucked out because they thought it helps donald trump who in turn swore allegiance to Israel and recognized Jerusalem as their capital city, cementing his slavery to zionists

Neither good nor bad. Any gains that were made by trying to unite the right we're offset by infighting about "muh optics" and American Nationalism vs National Socialism. Don't care what side you're on but the counter signaling and punching right has to stop.

Good. It brought the most deliberate anti-white organizations like the SPLC and Anti-Fa into the public eye.

The fact that they didn't know how to make torches was an immediate death sentence to any image they were trying to convey. It made them into an absolute laughingstock.

>people take active steps to create a momentum in the movement
>immediately shut it down and go back to shitposting online
kys kike

real redpill is it doesnt even matter. The zeitgeist is set. The only way it changes is an economic or physical crisis of some kind.

obvious false flag orchestrated by jews. Sup Forums smelt their bullshit a mile away and it was a good thing we did. that being said, normies now associate all right-wings with these LARPing retards so it still was a bad thing for all of us.

So much anger

they couldnt use real torches because that would violate security laws

It was a complete set up designed to give the media photographs of this newly made up alt right. They provided the labels they provided the imagery they provided the controversy. Luckily people learnt from it and stayed away from other events

This. Literally nothing was gained.

Perhaps now you understand why it was organized by Occupy Wall street organizers. BELIEVE NOTHING YOU SEEN IN MSM.......IT'S ALL LIES.

Just a great march of the salty alt-right virgins.

It kind of depends on how the "murder" trial goes. The added publicity and buthurt caused by a finding of innocence would be beyond amazing.

yes
Any big movements convince people they aren't alone

Not only did Trump defend them, but he called out the leftists who caused the violence and baited the media into an absolutely unbelievable response

And there's no way Fields gets convicted of 1st Degree, he'll walk and we'll have a new round of bellyaching

we also got "muh optics" spammed HARD
dunno if it was shills or if Sup Forumslacks unironically believed you could successfully get moderates to become more radical by having radicals become more moderate but whatever it was we flip flopped, came across as weak and indecisive
also pissed me off watching people try and prove this whole dodge challenger conspiracy when it's literally more desirable for us to stand by and say "we're willing to fight"
And what do the left say in response to their own behavior?
>Our people have made the mistake of confusing the methods with the objectives. As long as we agree on objectives, we should never fall out with each other just because we believe in different methods or tactics or strategy to reach a common goal.
-Malcolm X
no shit they're winning

>Now that the dust has settled, was Charlottesville ultimately a good or a bad thing for the far right?
Honestly, it was a fantastic chance for the alt-right to truly come out as an all-male community, despite all the haters and bigots. We're doing it for each other.

Theres a woman in that picture

It doesn't matter. As the flaws of Marxism and trans-national capitalism become heavier on the system people will flock to the far-right regardless of optics.

The left and establishment conservatives are powerless to prevent it.

>Theres a woman in that picture
>Prejudging gender based on appearance.
You should be ashamed of yourself, user. You know better than that. There's no community more open to trans women than the alt-right.

this is probably the only good that came out of it IMO, it told like minded closeted people that they weren't alone and hope is possibly around the corner. everything else was a total disaster the alt-right label is poison now, /ourguys/ had their lives ruined and lost their jobs, overwhelming and damaging pushback from the elites, pushed centrists and other political allies away etc

friendly reminder that this stupid whignat faggot is probably a satanist

noticing a ton more redpills getting dropped after it happened in normie circles, the optics are probably pretty good too

>bunch of peaceful white guys carrying torches, nothing happens
>antifa buses show up and hell erupts

someones wife.

>Real torches and Eagle Standards next time, nigger.
>The fact that they didn't know how to make torches was an immediate death sentence to any image they were trying to convey.

The clown-ish appearance from it may work to our benefit. Normies won't take it seriously, while the far left jews freaking out will wind up overplaying their hand and discrediting themselves.

How bad do you think the news looked to clueless normies when it tried to explain the frog?

hopefully you came to the realization the media will never give you a fair light. You don't fit their agenda. Now it is time for you to keep working together teach each other to be strong and successful. So a nigger sells drugs and plays with his dick all day long while you work and save and build your future then in 20 years oh the system of oppression why does withy have what I don't. Stay real.

I like how I'm supposed to take the opinions of you faggots seriously when you ask stupid questions like this. It wasn't a good look, dumb ass.

Was Fields the car driver, an updates or links on that. I have watched about 20 hours of video covering those same 10 mins around the accident and it looks tome like the most sever level of reckless driving as any one not retarded could have seen he could not drive away though the crowed after his car was getting hit

IRL protests/flash mobs are fucking retarded and cringy. Didn't you faggots learn anything from Chanology?

>Anything IRL is good.

Found the kekistani.

It was organized by Jews through and through, from Spencer, to ANTIFA, to the running over of the fat chick. They did it to discredit our historic movement to unironically redpill the people on Trump.

let me say it again pedes

THE

JEWS

DID

CHARLOTTESVILLE

Good but I definitely think the tiki torches looked silly. Next time we shouldn't use them. It also definitely drew the line between the shitty alt light fags and the alt right.

The organizers fucked up.
Why was the fed with the swastika flag allowed to participate? Why were people chanting "Jews will not replace us"?
If you're on a protest you want people to be on their best behavior at all times because the media will cherrypick to portray you in the worst possible light. If someone is unwilling to conform he has to be excluded.
It's funny, radical right wing movements are all about exclusion of outgroup members so you would think they wouldn't have any problems with that, but people who don't want to associate themselves with natsoc larpers and spergs are called optic cucks for having standards.

>led to Antifa being labelled a domestic terrorist organization
>made Trump condemn the Far-Left
>brought momentum back on the side to the alt-right
Cons
>The Tiki Torches made them look like fucking retards
>Muh optics got shilled hard, Sup Forums got cucked out of it and tried to become more moderate after this happened
>The resulting violence and death of a dumb cunt due to a car accident reflected poorly on the movement
It was both good and bad, but i'd say it was neccesary.
Keep in mind Antifa is defensive and the Alt-Right takes the initiatives in these situations. If you take the initiative, you can do pretty well.

Antifa got BTFO shortly afterwards and they're not even relevant anymore. The Alt-Right did a good job. I'm sold on it after that happened. If it hadn't, I would have never known what it was.

>white pride march
>tiki torches
>tiki

It is so painfully obvious that this was organized by a CIA plant, aka Spencer. The media got their pet Nazi in the headlines again and everyone was happy.

It hasn't settled until Field walks free. Because our court system is a corrupt cesspit, he won't even begin his trial until November.

Anyone seen Antifa lately?.......
Anyone?......

Hard to have secret methhead agitators when the media knows who they are.

I don't care lol I'm moving to Japan. Whites will never have an ethnostate because their women. My genes will do better in nip land.

Depends on the verdict

So what....

Fuck... was this the start of the alt left?

I guess I'm the only one who thought the tiki torches looked kind of cool.

Enjoy being a second class citizen in an alien land.

I will because I'm not an entitled ungrateful nigger. Like the minorities you're used to.

But he will be Cock King

>My genes
Your genes will be gone from that island within a generation because any offspring you produce with the women there will be ugly incel mutts.

Now go google some cherry-picked hot hapas to try to prove me wrong.

>will be ugly incel mutts.
If they were in America yeah, but not if they're in Asia :^)

>tiki torches
fucking embarrassing

real torches only tend to last about 15-20 minutes before needing to be resoaked in fuel. Along with the fact they are technically illegal (as a fire hazard) in some states.

You forgot to change your flag.

Worst thing to ever happen.
>Sabotaged Trump
>Normalfags think Republicans are legit nazis
>Pushed people further left
>The destruction of Southern historical statues

Yeah it was the best, for our enemies

>Sabotaged Trump

lmao

no dude based 5d chess lol civic nationalism is the future and racists btfo

Muslims are a bigger problem than jews could ever be. Jews aren't the ones mass raping and invading, nor are they behind it.

Check out this retarded boomer who thinks we care about the GOP.

yeah dude jews are based and muslims are bad lol look how they treat GAYs!!! wtf??? so barbaric unlike based jews lol i'm so glad jews are based and advocate for all white countries to take muslims in

So did you faggot

>nor are they behind it
Oh you sweet summer child.

I think it was literally the uprising beta.

at this point you should realize that no media will ever cover this fairly.

The optics weren't good of course because MSM spin everything, but I think the white majority showing solidarity pushes their causes. I wouldn't have heard about IBS without it I think.

cancer, /pol definitely doesn't roll this way. IOTBW is a much better and more effective campaign than larping.

Whomever is directing the alt right is pure aids.

Yeah it was bad. Real bad. Normie Trump supporters had no clue what they backed until those fags virtue signaled with...wait for it...TIKI TORCHES.

Though I loved watching my Conservative Jew friend's brain spin when they were like "JEWS...WILL NOT...REPLACE US..."

Then that creepy VICE chick with the wide eyes went in there and won a Polk while the guy she interviewed cried and went to jail... HAHAH.. I have to go back and watch that shit. Wew...yeah it was bad!! Bad, bad, bad!

Small gathering of tiki-torch wielders trying to LARP as 1930s NSDAP who did nothing but stoke left-wing paranoia about america going all 4rth reich and forcing Trump and conservatives to do damage-control.

This is the right-wing equivalent of feminists flashing their pussies and smearing themselves in period-blood. It just makes moderates who already support/tolerate the cause groan and everyone else you should be trying to convince feel more repulsed and vindicated in their contempt than before.

Yes, it was virtue signaling and clued everybody that the Alt-Right are the SJWs of Trumpism.

What the movement actually needs is credibility. It would take a while to make the ideology socially acceptable again. We need great, scientifically or philosophically sound literature that create a following.
We always had common sense but it seems that isnt too popular these days.

UNEQUIVOCALLY BAD

Not only did they fuck up the planning (enemy turf, antifa protected by city, everything blamed on them) but they distracted from what could have been a huge shitstorm for tech-ZOG.

You'll recall that the James Damore fiasco was introducing the public to the dangers of big tech and how they needed to be reigned in. Then Charlottesville blew up and completely took over the news cycle. Now the left has hours of footage of angry white nationalists screaming with torches and beating black youf with night sticks.

If we want to make progress moving forward, we need to acknowledge Charlottesville as a huge failure so it's never repeated again. We can learn some lessons from it though:

1. Organize for something worthwhile that you have a good chance of winning at. (trying to overturn a town's decision to remove its own statue is probably the worst goal to organize around. peak impotence)

2. Don't tolerate fringe weirdos.

3. Don't agitate in a place you aren't from and clearly aren't welcome at.

4. Have sympathetic media contacts notified early and in place for the event.

Bad short term. Very good long term.

>forcing Trump and conservatives to do damage-control

Oh no what a shame think of the establishment conservatives!

lmao

Yeah fuck them for trying to wield state power and enact laws and shit. Only cucks vote, right? Real PRINCIPLED individuals imitate NSDAP marches and show off their gun collections to shitlib journalists.

I was pretty amazed by how good some of them looked tbqh.

>UNEQUIVOCALLY BAD
>Then Charlottesville blew up and completely took over the news cycle

I'm not as stupid as you are, so I don't get what point you're trying to make. Care to be a bit more explicit?

All of this is the exact opposite of what should be done

Muh optics if you protest your enemies they win

>trying to wield state power

lol boomer conservatives are pathetic and haven't conserved anything.

You deserve nothing but ridicule.

Kinda. Nothing happens while the money flows

NeoNazis larping around with hawaiian torches.
>hawaiian luau theme party
>mfw I thought this was another Sup Forums raid

You misunderstand the game. Politics doesn't happen in a vacuum where only you and your enemies exist. This is the primary NEETsoc delusion.

Politics is a game of various factions fighting for the precious normie vote. Alienating people is the #1 sin in politics. You're not thinking in a serious manner. Your type of thinking was excusable in the pre-Trump era, but in the post-Trump era, we can't afford LARPers delusions about principles and "shifting the overton window". We have to secure the massive gains we've made and more importantly WIN. NEETsoc goosestepping is hardly going to help us if we haven't even convinced the public to support the RAISE Act yet.

You may argue that you aren't interested in electoral politics, in which case I'd have to ask you what better method you have of attaining power in 2018.

Let me elaborate: The average person is either not aware of the concept of white genocide or he knows about it but does not care because he has been indoctrinated to see white people as perpetual oppressors.
Concerning zionist conspiracies, he knows nothing other than that far right-wingers think jews are conspiring to do something, whatever it is.
So when a bunch of white people gather to chant "Jew will not replace us!", people have no idea what you are talking about, so you just come across as a crazy assholes.

Bannons gone. He told trump to say that.

You're not even making the correct arguments, what an absolute idiot.

The arguments you're making are ones we use against "cuckservatives", the National Review crowd. If you include Trump in that crowd you're too uninformed to continue this discussion with.

It's shocking to me how unappreciative these teenage NEETsocs are of Trump. They don't even remember that before Trump immigration wasn't even on the table for discussion. The best we could hope for were bait & switches like the Gang of 8 bill, and only small online outlets like Breitbart would even cover the betrayals. Now we're discussing the Wall, the RAISE Act, ending chain migration, and actually deporting people again, and these idiots have the nerve to treat Trump like he's John Mccain. You people are too stupid to live.

Exactly right. We need to convince normies that we as white people exist as a group and have a moral right to pursue our group's interest, which is stopping immigration and deporting undesirables so that we stay in control of our societies.

Dat soy face

Clearly not because now normies just bash them over the head with it anytime they make an argument now. Also because "real life Nazis" are everywhere, the left further dig their heels into their self imagined moral superiority.

Bad. Very bad. You don't go out looking like an angry mob if you're trying to look good.

Fire bad, soft light good. Should've gone with covered camp lanterns or something.