Be European nobility in middle ages

>be European nobility in middle ages
>your kingdom is in chaos with constant infighting and raids
>men from far away lands come and tell you about religion where you can unite all the tribes under one cross and under nations
>Europe becomes unified under Christendom and becomes the most powerful continent the world has ever seen
>1500 years later neckbeards on internet say "ebil chistiams destroo muh scietific paganumismn!!"

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Yes we get it, Christianity is infinitely superior in all aspects to a dead meme tier campfire storie snowmonkey "religion"
This is common knowledge

>productive member of society
yes, actively working on destroying the West
>Understands that anime and other forms of pornography is sinful and damaging to the mind
more damaging than religions and the massacres they've done?
>constantly refutes bad theology
"It's in the Bible, mang, the only true scripture, ignore the others before and after it, THIS is the real one xD"
>Ancestors founded western civilization
more like kept it in the dark for centuries
>humble
"Donate to my church or face eternity in hell"
>straight, and treats women with respect
M'lady
>worships an omnipresent, all powerful God
AKA Israel

>Strawmaning and lying this hard
Kek

Modern Christians love importation of muslims and embracing multiculturalism so much that they're more of part of the problem than any solution.

Few redpilled Christians posting on Sup Forums won't change the fact that institutional religions and bluepilled Christian normies define actual Christianity.

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*creates Western civilization*
Pssh nothing personal pagapeasant

Christianity is the most anti-white religion on earth. This is simply an irrefutable fact.

Rabbi Yeshua give me strength! What? You are nailed to the cross? b-but Deus Vult!?

Lapdog of the curse god.

Western Civilization is based on pagan philosophy. Even christfag theology is 99% plagiarized from classical philosophy. Aquinas for example, who stole all of his concepts from Aristotle (and from Muslims because he was a cuckold).

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> falling for the autistic b8
M8

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It's where his strength lies and where yours is amiss.

Couple of devils pictured in a Devil publication

>bendover for rabbi Yeshua!

Western civilization was founded under paganism dumbfuck. Im not even a pagan and I can acknowledge this unless you're implying Ancient Greece and Rome were Christian

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*Murders thousands of germanics*
nothing personal, whitey

also
>introduced jews to court and allowed their (((commerce)))
kek, super based

Christianity has its place in history for unifying the European mind but to imply it is equip to handle the coming century is extremely naive. We need something wholely new.

Christianity turned the other cheek and allowed Muslim attacks to go on for years. Finally a pope got in that was willing to ignore the cucked pacifist part of Christianity to start the crusades and Christians have been cherry picking what exactly they take literally in the bible ever since

It united europeans, because it destroyed everything else, that united europeans. Congrats. Also Jordan Petersson is an individualistic retard.

Funny thing is paganism doesnt even exist. Neo-"""paganism""" is a unorganic, untraditional """religion""" invented in the 20th century which has nothing to do with real paganism that died out 1000 years ago.

Look at our flags though..
(((CHRISTIANED))).

"If your enemies kill you, you win."- Rabbi Jesus

There is nothing wrong with uniting by making everything else bend the knee.

He was actually hung from a tree according to the Roman records and to the Jews.

Pagan Rome founded western civilization and Christianity destroyed it, cuck.

>invented
No need to invent the desire not to be consumed by a curse diety.

Remember this is a form of pornography and if you read it you're damaging your mind. Fuck off, go back to watching your electric jew, I've heard there's some new flavour of the month garbage on netflix for you, you fucking normie.

Dannebrog is aesthetic as fuck, even though it's literally a kikepike. Idk, i still like it.

Except the christians spread their religion through lies and subversion the people were never really christian. They were just god fearing of a guy named Jesus Christ, who they thought were european like themselves.

>posting non-arguments
Do you have any alternative to Christianity?
>atheism
No, that’s weak.
>Islam
No, that’s not European.
Yes Christianity is european, it was practiced in Europe longer than Norse Paganism was. It is also a derivative of Indo-Europeans who settled in the Levant.
>Paganism
Name a single belief that all pagans adhere to.
I can name one all Christians adhere.

>not understanding that god exists and so do pagan "gods" who are under the only real god
>not singing goodnight lullabies to the spirits while playing kantele and afterwards giving prayer to the god.
>Pissing other spiritual beings off and praying god to save you and not being in good terms with everyone and get everyone's blessing

Ever wonder why both in IRL and Sup Forums the most christians are burgers or shitskins? It's almost as if a low IQ civil nationalist religion destroys whites

You see, christianity is universal. Neither greek nor jew, goyim. So everybody can of course adhere to it. Paganism is a religion of blood and soil. For me, that would be norse paganism.

>lies and subversion
Does this make it untrue?
Besides that, we have records of the conversions from pagan sources, there were no lies and folk were genuine.
Cynicism is a recent invention.

>alternative to Christianity
Read the fucking holy texts of abrahamics and decide for yourself if you want anything to do with that diety.

Idk, i'm just rooting for, that they were lied to, considering danes continued to go on Viking for another 100 years after conversion, because if they were truely christians, they would be cute little cuckies turning the other cheek.

Yes. Just like water is universal in quenching thirst, so is Christianity universal in quenching desire.
>Paganism is a religion of blood and soil
No it’s not. It was never about blood and soil. You could argue it was maybe soil, maybe, but only in certain cases.
Name one reason derived from Paganism that a pagan should not race mix.
What stops a pagan from race mixing?
And I mean a pagan reason, is there anything in Paganism that is actually blood and soil.
>inb4 animism
>for me
>Norse
Denmark is more German than Norse.
You’d have to divide between Jutland and Sealand.
Also what kind of Norse Paganism?

That just doesn't make sense. You can't, with no great effort, trick generation upon generation of people into doing something they don't want to do anyways. And it literally doesn't matter if they were lied to about jesus being european or not. If they all thought he was then it had the unifying effect I mentioned earlier. It is unfortunate that the unification was based on a lie, but that it happened is still good.

I do.
The Danes started Viking when Charlemagne stopped their trade. It’s not like becoming a pirate was a religious act.
>cute little cuckies turning the other cheek
*goes on crusade*

The Roman empire destroyed itself,potato eater

>height of western influence on the world and power was when west was baisically 100% christian and christianity had a massive influence in every day life, politics and law
>west starts declining after it embraced secularism
yeah bro Christianity totally destroyed the west lol

>It is also a derivative of Indo-Europeans who settled in the Levant.
Citations needed

>Europe becomes unified under Christendom

Can you point to when Europe was ever unified, please?

>Christianity destroyed Rome before Christianity existed
Wew lad. Lay off the Gibbon.
Rome was finished when she decided to let La Tenes and Franks fill her ranks. Then also outsource and become dependent on Egyptian grain production.
Come to think of it, Rome fell with Caesar

""""chose""""
im thinking of a different word that starts with the letter C

yep

>No it’s not. It was never about blood and soil. You could argue it was maybe soil, maybe, but only in certain cases.

Kike lies. Paganism is all about the blood, or as I like to call it asatru. We are our gods and they are us, only in them we live forth and vice versa.

>Name one reason derived from Paganism that a pagan should not race mix.

The punishment for race mixing even outside of the tribe would be a bog death, where the spirit cannot escape from and had to wait untill loki comes to get him/her and take him to the underworld where he will be tortured for having sex with an animal (nigs are animals) So all persons of european descendant will be punished for having sex with an non-Aryan.

>linguistic and mythological evidence
I wonder who created something out of Mesopotamia?
The only reason why we don’t see Indo-European genes is because they continued on into central Africa.
What do we find in central Africa?
A strain of R1b lactose tolerant pastoralists.
They aren’t white, but they are at least paternally descended from West proto-Germanic Indo-Europeans.

There was never "western influence on the world." Only Jewish influence on the world. All of the empires were run by Jews. British empire was Jewish, Spanish empire Jewish, Dutch empire Jewish, etc. Christianity acted as a Trojan horse for Jews to dominate the entire world.

Still waiting for an answer to this.

When was Europe ever unified? Even as we speak, Orthodox Ukraine and Orthodox Russia are nearly at war with each other.

>poo in loo source
>le archetypes
Metaphysical denialists get out.
>punishment is a bog death
Source?
They regularly married outside the tribe. That’s how they got their wide spread homogeneity is because a large tribe genetically speaking subsumed the lesser tribe.
The Indo-Europeans were not of a uniform genotype or phenotype, yet their descendants are, or at least were.
>non-Aryans are animals
Read the Lay of Rig.
Non-Aryans are freemen or thralls.
Aryans are ruling nobility.

Norse paganism derived from my homeland and my people long ago. Christianity derived from a bunch of kikes in a desert who later got others on board. In pagan mythology there are plenty of other races. There are the aesirs, vanirs, giants, elves, dwarves and fucking idk what. So they must have implicitely been conscious about a sort of racial identity. The aesirs were someone you respected and looked up to and Jotuns (correct me if i'm wrong) were seen as the enemies. Plenty of stories of aesirs going to Jotunheim and fucking jotun bitches and then leaving again but ultimately the marriage for each race is limited to their own race.

Except that there were "heresy" movements all the time dividing europeans between interpreting their kike on a pike in different ways, which made them slaughter one another.

yikes bro. you know you shouldnt believe everything you read on Sup Forums.

>JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS JEWS
>Christianity was a Trojan horse for the jews
>The religion that literally went against everything the jews had done and said
>The religion who's most Influential leader called out the jews on they're bullshit so much they begged the Romans to kill him to shut him up
>The religion who's new testament says that the jews will be destroyed by they're very Messiah and will be severely punished
>It's just a Trojan horse bruh!

He is right though. Cecil Rhodes was a Rotschild plant to plunder shekels in african mines for Rabbi.

Europe is the North Sea. Under the Christian kings of England and Denmark we saw a truly unified Europe. The North Sea people under one religion and one banner. Then when they allied with the Broadly migratory Germanics we saw a unified Europe, as in a common belief and peace from Toledo to Trondor.

People are mostly parroting Nietzsche when they say the European mind was unified.

Christianity was a jewish reformation. Some jews went against what some other jews said. You can't say he went against "what jews said" when jews were divided in two camps.

>It was practised longer in Europe than Norse Paganism
LMAO
3000 years (2000BC bronze age - 1000"AD") vs 1500 years of worshipping the hanged Jew
Also, your argument will be the same in 3800AH after the new europids adopt Islam desu, shame.

>so retarded he thinks all indians are poo in loos even 5000 years ago

oh yeah, i almost skipped this too
>Denmark is more German than Norse, You’d have to divide between Jutland and Sealand.
Don't talk about things you obviously don't know anything about.

Cernunnos (a god) > Jesus (a man)
Don't give me that crap about how Jesus and God are the same thing, Jesus died, therefore he was a mortal man and not a god. The autism on you Christians is like shell on a shrimp.

It's a fact. British empire was run by Rothschild, Sassoons, and their goyim pawns like Cecil Rhodes. Spanish empire was run almost entirely by sephardic Jews. Amsterdam, head of Dutch empire, had been the most Jewish city in Europe for centuries. And today we have the American empire, thoroughly Jewish. And the one time a real European empire was attempted in the 20th century, the Judeo-Christians killed it for their Jewish masters.

>Europe is the North Sea. Under the Christian kings of England and Denmark we saw a truly unified Europe.

Moving the goal posts.

Europe is just the North Sea? Really? That isn't Europe then. Europe includes the entire continent.

>Then when they allied with the Broadly migratory Germanics

They were not migratory, this is a misunderstanding.

>Then when they allied with the Broadly migratory Germanics we saw a unified Europe, as in a common belief and peace from Toledo to Trondor.

This did not stop William the Conqueror or the Norwegian-Scottish wars, or the civil wars in Norway, etc, etc, etc...

Norse Paganism came partially from the beliefs of the Corded Ware slavo-Germanics and partially from the native people of Europe.
Christianity derived from a divine truth known to all men at all times.
Aesirs, Vanirs, Giants elves and dwarves aren’t other races, they aren’t even described that way, they have been mythologized. Their names are probably just a form of tribalistic surname.
It’s fuzzy because there is no canon in mythology.
Giants were more a rival family. Probably derived from the native Europeans. Vanir were probably the gods of the proto-meds who lived in Sweden. Aesir are Indo-European.
Aesir got their ass and wits handed to them by Jotun, just like in real life.
I1 isn’t an Aryan haplotype.

Paganism includes Roman and Ancient Greek religion, jungleboy

Paganism doesnt exist anymore lol.

Norse Paganism isn’t 3000 years old, you mong.
Fucking Old Norse the language isn’t even that old.
Norse Paganism as we know it arose probably sometime during the migration period when we saw an outburst of Germanic culture in all directions from the people fleeing the Huns and seeking wealth and glory.
Unless you consider proto-Norse to be Norse then you really don’t have Norse mythology.
I don’t consider proto-Norse to be a variant of Norse. I consider Norse Norse.
600s earliest would be 400s, that’s when Wodanaz became Odin, no longer a priest, now a king. That’s when Tiuz became Tyr and stopped being the head of the pantheon and god of war and became a god of justice and law.
If Europeans survive long enough to adopt Islam then so what? As long as they live and thrive.

All Indians are poo in loos. Even 5k years ago.
>denial
Danes are closer to North Germans than they are to Norwegians, and they basically founded Norway.

Christianity made Jews the most powerful group on earth. This is a fact. Your unfounded belief that christianity is anti-jewish does not change this fact.

In paganism, the things are more symbols than they are to be taken literal. Odin symbolized wisdom for an example. Aesirs, vanirs, giants, elves and dwarves were symbols for other races.

When i say norse paganism i mean germanic paganism, but where the names and such have been been made more norse-ish. For an example, anglo-saxons call what we call Odin, Woten/Wotan. So the difference is mainly difference in what we call it.

That’s literally not moving the goalposts.
I’m telling you when the most of Europe was the most united.
>Europe includes the entire continent
Let in more Sicilians then.
Europe is its people. It’s people are the North Sea people.
>the Franks, Visigoths, Burgundians, Lombards, and Rugii were not migratory
You tarded?
>this did not stop
No one is saying they were unified for all time. I’m simply telling you they did unify.
Men aren’t infallible.

>The only reason why we don’t see Indo-European genes is because they continued on into central Africa.

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The Yamnaya transformed the gene pools of northern and central Europe, such that some populations, like Norwegians, owe around 50% of their ancestry to these Steppe pastoralists.

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So what you are saying is Christianity is an instantiation of the jew's classic trick of playing both sides?
I could believe it, but then I would ask how would you know something isn't that trick?

>jews successfully subverted and infiltrated inside a religion

Oh nice,you're talking like Pagans would be immune to that.

>I’m telling you when the most of Europe was the most united.

That was not most of Europe. Even if there were temporary peaces (like present day) they did not last. The idea that Christianity united Europe is simply not true, because Europe was never really united. Maybe we came close sometimes, but there were always factions against this unification, etc the Napoleonic wars.

>Let in more Sicilians then.

There are only 5 million Sicilians. Sicilians are Europeans, though some are mixed. There are 1 billion Africans. They all are not European and most will want to move to Europe. That's the problem.

>the Franks, Visigoths, Burgundians, Lombards, and Rugii were not migratory

No, they were not migratory. They were invading armies of men that conquered and settled, but they did not have a migratory lifestyle.

>No one is saying they were unified for all time. I’m simply telling you they did unify.

Of course, one could argue Europe is unified now more than ever, through common trade and commerce. But I don't think Christianity did it.

>muh archetypes
Can you fuck off with that religious cucking?
Odin symbolized insanity and late stage ptsd.
His wisdom came later.
>the difference is what we call it
Somewhat. But notice how Swedes venerate Freyr, Danes venerate Odin, Norwegians venerate Thor, Saxons venerate Odin, Germans venerate Odin, I think the Dutch pagans had Nehanniel or something as among their Chief deities.
Anyway, these religions only briefly were similar.
Also, who do you identify with more? Your indo-european side (Aesir) or your native european side (Jotun) can’t venerate both.
Your father’s were Jotun your mother’s were Aesir.
Some of your mothers were probably Vanir as well.

you're retarded beyond reason. Are you even white? Do you have light eyes and hair?

Most pagans here are of the "praise thor" type,
Honestly it's a disgrace that your Marxist nation has the cross on its flag

>Christianity was a jewish reformation.
Hebrew*
It's actually it's prophecies being profiled and it's conclusion. Not just a meat "reformation"
>You can't say he went against "what jews said" when jews were divided in two camps.
Except I can,a and the jews where divided into many camps
Some jews agreed he (Jesus) was the true Messiah,others blatantly rejected him,not only that,he called out those jews on all they're wickedness publicly
Not to mention the (((jews))) opposed to Jesus where the pharracies,aka the jews in charge in those times
Jesus died and came back to life tho
The jews aren't powerful,they are weak and must run the show from behind the scenes like cowards they are,and they're grip is very fragile

What made them powerful what the creation of communism,the shattering of the wolrd order with the two great world wars and the protocols of Zion being profiled.
You can't blame everything on Christians you know

I meant the reason why we don’t see indo-Europeans in the Middle East, they kept moving.
Unfortunately for Northern Europeans they are divided among Yamanaya on their mothers side and Native European on their fathers side.
This is why we can’t harp too much on tribalism. We must idealize the Nordic people or the North Sea peoples, and unify them. The whole reason why we should stick with Christianity is because it would give us a common unity which we know occurred and have it in recent cultural memory.
Paganism would divide every nation in Northern, Central, and Eastern Europe into their genetic factions.
Scandinavia especially since the Indo-European women were taken by Native European men.
As evidenced by I1 being dominant but the MtDNA being Yamnayan in origin.

>you're talking like Pagans would be immune to that.
They would be. Jews are integral to the Christian religion, which is how they were accepted. That is why Christianity protected Jews for hundreds of years in Europe.

>The whole reason why we should stick with Christianity is because it would give us a common unity which we know occurred and have it in recent cultural memory.

That would be possible only if Christianity were a whites only religion, which it isn't. Most Christians are non-White.

>Paganism would divide every nation in Northern, Central, and Eastern Europe into their genetic factions.

Christianity has done nothing to mend this. In fact, it has exacerbated this when it split off into Protestantism and Catholicism. How can Christianity unite us when it cannot even unite the Ukrainians and Russians, who speak a very similar language, have nearly the same history, and practice the same version of Christianity?

>be any tribal pagan people
>wage war against neigbouring fellow germanics/slavs/greeks/celts/whateverelse literally every summer in which you will kill most of their men and steal most of their women for no other reason than pure greed and hate for your rivals
>but it's ok because you're not christian

>be chimbrians
>terrorise europe
>almost destroy rome itself
>but it's ok because they weren't christians

>be caesar
>kill 1/3 of everyone in gaul in a brutal and bloody genocide
>murder thousands of germanic peoples who just happend to be on the wrong side of the rhine
>but it's ok because you're not christian

>be later pagan emperors
>send hundreds of throusands of european men to fight and die in vain in the middle east over countless of dumb wars
>but it's ok because you're not christian

Christianity is a Jewish religion. It's literally Judaism.

Correct

Christianity broke off some jews and they created a reformation and got alot of non-jews on board. Whether it was intended as a trick or not, christianity is still jewish

>hebrew*
Hebrews are jews you mong-mutt.
>Muh pharasees and edomites
Retarded christians, jews are jews. Except you lot seem to love some jews.

Wtf are you talking about with jotuns being native europeans and shit like that? never heard about it before.

Most of the Middle Ages took place when Europe was already christian.

Europe became a super-power after the enlightenment when they started breaking free from christianity's cultural domination.

>protected
They were shunned away in the middle ages,majority of christians (especially priests and the rest officials) had a large dislike on them.
If you think thats called protecting then you are an absolute retard,and once again a retard,thinking that Pagans would win over jews when they cant even unite together against the common enemy as Christanity did against turks. The jews can simply sabotage the pagan religions to make them fight against eachother,much more easier to do so than on Christanity as Pagans are very different from eachother.

That is literally most of Europe, I do not count the Russian Steppe as culturally or economically relevant to Europe as a whole.
>they did not last
Peace never lasts lol.
>because it was never really United
I fight with my brother over everything, does this mean we were never truly united or do not have the capacity to unite?
>Sicilians are Europeans
Sweet child. Southern Europeans are a different race from Northern Europeans. They would be best defined as a mixed race child of an Arab and a Norwegian. That’s essentially in practice who they are. Of course their history is different and they aren’t actually a mix, but functionally speaking, they would operate the same way if you took an Arab to be your wife and had kids with her.
Above Arabs but beneath you.
>invading armies
Is that why they begged for Rome to let them in? They were fleeing the Huns. Germanic armies were primarily composed of light melee infantry and light melee cavalry. Hunnish Lancers and Horse Archers would be a direct counter to them. It’s like the Mongols against the Rus which was a better documented instance of this exact type of engagement.
Migratory =/nomadic

Christianity made common trade possible.
In fact you have Charlemagne’s policy of embargo’s on non-Christians to thank for it.
Common language, common social ideals, cultural ideals.
Pagans differed, Christians dont.

>europeans never fought each other

Nigger, we're arguing against the absurd idea that Christianity unified Europe, or the idea that the Crusades somehow weren't a retarded endeavor and benefited Europe and not just (((Venetian))) merchants.

Blue eyed with straight blonde haired 100% American.
Stay mad curly haired toothpaste boi.
I look like a god.

Christianity literally destroyed Rome and is now destroying all of Europe and there are people on Sup Forums defending it. How does this make any sense?

Rome destroyed itself you fucking retard.
The Western Roman Empire was pagan.
The Eastern Roman Empire (also known as BYZANTINE) was Christian

>whites only religion
It kind of is. Non-whites always shift away from Christianity within a generation or two. Europeans are the only people receptive to it for more than 25 years.
African voodoo is not Christianity. South American witch doctory and gang worship is not Christianity.
Asian ancestor worship is not Christianity.
Only in America do true non-white Christians exist, this can be attributed to living among whites and being individualistic by necessity rather than by choice as whites are.
No I’m not an individualist, I mean individualistic as in they follow true Christianity of their own accord.