When will Christ fags ever learn?

>calls Pagans LARPers
>literally posts DEUS VULT/RETAKE CONSTANTINOPLE like an autist, larps as a crusader
>calls Pagans Larpers when you Christcucks don't even go to church
>takes about Constantinople all day but doesn't realize that the reason why it fell in the first place because the Crusaders sacked it first
>is the reason why the West is so cucked right now is because of the Christian "values" of love thy neighbor
>Lol what I do don't matter because I can just ask God for forgiveness

Christianity has done more harm to white people than every other belief in just 2000 years. Marxism and liberalism is a by product of Christianity. The only reason why Europe evolved in the first place in the Renaissance is because people start to embrace more pagan ideas

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sourcebooks.fordham.edu/pwh/gayvik.asp
grapevine.is/news/2015/05/15/old-norse-weddings-becoming-more-popular-for-same-sex-couples/
youtu.be/Sz42hBg4jys
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf
youtube.com/watch?v=CcOf94gMs8k
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottgläubig).
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Paganism as you almost certainly imagine it IS jewish propaganda. It is a construct made up by Jewish-dominated past-Enlightenment academia that has almost fucking nothing in common with what even ancient Greeks, never mind practicers of paganisms from which very little survived to our day, like that of the Norse, actually believed. It was made up to seem anything more than a collection of bloody and incosistent superstitions specifically to undermine Christianity.

Take a look at the most advanced paganism in history, Hinduism. A small bunch of Christian adventurers BTFOed a whole sub-continent its adherents and their descendants only failed to kept India under their thumb due to events that flowed from the Europe abandoning Christianity. Hinduism also was not very successful at teaching people to poo in loo of course.

>memeflag
>LARPagan
>shills against Christianity
>uses christcuck unironically
>probably does so while reading the Sup Forums shilling instructions tab on jidf's website
sage

While Europe was Christian it colonized whole world and it was most powerful before WW1 when it destroyed itself.

>tripfags
>expects people to take you seriously

Try harder slavshit

You've got any proof to back up the part where you say pushing for "paganism" is jewish?

False positive, has nothing to do with christianity. If anything the teaching of Jesus are strongly against that.

It was white europeans that btfo everyone
Christianity has fuck all to do with it
dumbcunt

>You've got any proof to back up the part where you say pushing for "paganism" is jewish?

This, appearantly their argument tactics is to label everything we do is Jewish

>everything we do
>WE
You can stop memeflaging any time jew, you're not one of "us"

>be Norwegian
>live in a shithole, basicly mudhut tier
>"muh vikings"
>our only accomplishiments so far is infighting, "breddy gudd :DD" boats and shamanistic shit
>Hvitekrist (White Christ) comes and saves us
>Suddenly we have writing (inb4 muh futhark, runes are retarded), agriculture and society
>a few hundred years later we're amongst the richest countries in the world
>Centuries later some faggot welfare queen kills a man and tries to tell us christianty is bad

Why do you think LARPagans deserve anything other than ridicule?

Der Bhagavad Gita über alles!

That's not what I asked Ahmed.
You claim (((they))) are pushing for the pagan revival in Europe. Where's the proof?

Pagans are just LARPing atheists, and atheism is a Jewish invention.

>perkwunos
It's Perkūnas, fuckturd.

>what were Romans
>what were ancient greeks

Tell me more about 'muh wooden plank worship created civilisation'

You don't own reality Ahmed, you'll have to do better than that. You just postulated some crap like a=b and b is bayyyd.

>what were Romans
>what were ancient greeks

The founders of the Catholic and Orthodox churches. Makes you think, huh?

Ahhh, it comes out. The "pagan" begins defending atheism. Colour me surprised. You should probably note that every single major figure in the atheist movement is Jewish. You could make a compelling argument that atheism is specifically being pushed by Jews in today's society, and they seem to largely be targeting western Christians and only them.

For example, Sam Harris, Chapman Cohen, David Silverman, Michael Newdow, Gregory Epstein, Sherman Wine, Bill Maher, Eric Kaufmann, and of course, Richard Dawkins's mother has a Jewish surname and was stated to have lived in the only Jewish suburb of the city she grew up in. But he hasn't explicitly named her religion.

But that's only a tiny part of the list. We could discuss the Jewish atheists who aren't pushing atheism so much as atheism-enabling political views like Marxism. For example Soklonikov, Trotsky, Deutscher, Lenin, Uritsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev and Sverdlov.

And what about atheist Jewish public entertainers that constantly run down Christianity? We can go ahead and recycle Bill Maher here and also include Jon Leibowitz, Stephen Fry, Woody Allen, Rob Reiner, Daniel Radcliffe, Larry David, David Silverman, and... I'm sure I'm close to the post cap, so rather than just name the rest of Hollywood, you get the point.

PURE COINCIDENCE though.

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YOU LITERALLY JUST MADE AN OPPOSITE THREAD
SOMEONE HAD TO SLIDE OFF THE BOARD FOR YOUR SPAM

>Don't like athiesm goy, the jews are controlling you
>But like Christianity which is LITERALLY a sect of Judaism, the jews didn't control the thing they created

atheism is too hard for weak minded individuals. But atheism won't save us either, we do have a soul, but a jewish war demon is not our god

You're wasting energy Ahmed. You're strawing my position to that of an amerimutt "pagan".
Again, you have not given ANY proof of "paganism being pushed by (((them)))" and you assume I agree with your "pagans are atheist" strawing.

Most people in Europe (with the exception of Wiccans) come to the old faith because they are genuinely interested in the spiritual or psychological inner world of their people in the past before the semitic intrusion. It takes much more time to dig out the good sources for that than just pick up a bible and believe.

That's a bit like saying Indians are responsible for the locomotive because the British created India. You're a silly cunt.

I'm not pro atheism but for a Christian to point at it as a jewish trick when Christianity is literally the biggest jewish trick of all time is retarded

JAHOVAH IS JUPITER IS CHRIST

ALL GLORY TO ABBA PHOS

christcucks are either amerimutts or shitskins. The average IQ of christianity is 85. Heathendom and eastern religions is where the 105+ IQ lies.

Did you see the other thread that's the opposite of this one and felt inclined to make this thread op?

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You don't understand. I am saved by Christ. There is a tangible benefit to my life, and because of it I will inherit eternal Glory. There is a benefit I gain in this that no pagan LARPing will give any of you. That's why we look down on you, because you advocate for something you don't really believe. You're just atheists who realise how stupid atheism is.

But anyway, lets turn it around.

Remember that Vikings sold whites as slaves to Arabs. White women were especially in high demand.

m.thenational.ae/world/europe/when-the-arabs-met-the-vikings-new-discovery-suggests-ancient-links

You can tell why it appeals to the modern Swede, there ancestors basically invented a religion dedicated to weaponised cucking. Not only did they allow their women to have multiple husbands, they actively captured white women, and shipped them half way across the world so they could give them to shitskins.

When that failed they just decided to let all the shit skins into their country and rape their women without consequence.

It's no wonder the only time Nordic people weren't absolute cucks was the few hundred years they were Christians.

>meme flag

>Most people in Europe (with the exception of Wiccans) come to the old faith because they are genuinely interested in the spiritual or psychological inner world of their people in the past before the semitic intrusion

The reason paganism is gone is because Christianity specifically existed to invalidate it. You no longer deal with powerful gods, they are nothing compared to the infinitely powerful god of the universe. You don't need to sacrifice anymore because God himself has offered his blood up for you to use. There is literally no reason to leave Christianity for reconstructed primitive beliefs

>That's why we look down on you, because you advocate for something you don't really believe
Again with the shit. So we're not going pass that strawman I see.
It's interesting because I know many good Christians and they are able to hold a meaningful conversation about "paganism" but you just spill your primitivism for everyone to see.
I seriously doubt you're Christian

Ok, so what do you believe, and why do you think it's 'paganism'?

>Jesus is Love, Yeshua is MAGA!!!!!

Nobody serious calls himself pagan.
We use our native words like Rodneverje, Asatru, Romuva..
These words have meaning that is sacred to us and represents us in the cosmic game in a particular way.
Pagan is a word for a periphery dweller (believing weird stuff as opposed to the "civilized" one)

I'm not getting into details here but I claim gods exist as much as our psyche exists with all the evolutionary inclinations we as people possess. The archetypes or modes in a way we perceive reality vary from the universal (godfather) to an ethnically specific way (vampires).
Inner and outer worlds are connected

this.

enemies of christianity:
Jews
Muslims
Commies
Faggots
degenerates

no jesus is burn all the faggots in hell.

>worshipping a jewish blood demon

We would rather have no prescribed morality than subscribe to a semetic morality. We do not need old gods, new gods, gods at all. We reject you. It is that simple.

But, if we have to unite under a banner of a god, we will always choose the old gods.

Protestantism is redpilled. It's only catholicuckoldry which is cucked.

>saved by a Kike that got nailed to a piece of wood 2,000 years ago

How mentally weak are you?

>using the claims of a jewish psychoanalist "Greenberg" to push mass homossexuality to shit on your own ancestors as "cum drinkers"
>ignoring the fact Germanic pagans were known to execute all homossexuals by drowning them in mud (Tacitus, "Germania")

Meanwhile at the local Protestant Church

>paganism which rejects everything jewish and is in natural opposition to what judaism stands for is "jewish propaganda"
>christianity, which was made by jews, stem from judaism and is a "reformed jewish tradition" is not

Logic.

Meanwhile, every other "pagan" rune is classified as a "hate symbol", while only "the burning cross of the KKK" is also called by the kikes as one, for a reason...

>it was because of christianity, not of European BLOOD

Sure thing, deus-vult friend. Reminder that pagan Europe also invaded the middle east and North Africa, all the way to the Greeks invading India... Europe rose to greatness "in spite" of christianity, not "because" of it.

Yes, the "BASED" christian Norway remained with the same population as the Viking Ages up to the 17th century, and, while before it managed to colonized Frankia (which had 14 million people), the British Isles, Iceland, Greenland, North America and found Russia, it became a irrelevant country that was almost wiped out by the black death after christianity, an alien religion, took over...

But Varg triggers you, so he must be some "welfare-taking parasite" , even though he explicitly said he doesn't take welfare because he makes too much money...

>there is no religiosity outside christianity, everyone who says so is jus "larp" pretending
>there was also no history before christianity and the adoption of jewish traditions, goy

Meanwhile, at the local church, hallelujah singouts for the refugee welcome, your "christian brothers" from africa...

>the viking sold slaves to arabs

So did the very Christian Franks, in fact, they even gave the jews the privilege of doing it, and running a non-stop route to Muslim Spain. The very christian city of Venice was a major slave port of Europeans, so was Byzantium, who sold slaves to their arab enemies who attacked them YEARLY.

The majority of Viking's slaves were purchased by... Christian Franks. The Vikings did not have slavery in their lands, but thraldom, which encompassed only about 10% of the population, while the Christians had both slavery and the majority of their population under feudal servitude and bondage. The Vikings did not change the slavery systems that were in place in Britain, for instance, before they came. And it remained as so after their invasions. 10% percent of the population of England was recorded as enslaved by 1100, 80% being feudal serfs.

But muuh viking raiders lost all battles, they were just feared because they wuz dumb, lol....

So, you're literally, right now, admitting to being a LARPing atheist.

Never could have seen that one coming.

It's interesting but even Scandinavian pagans practiced homosexuality, although for them the bottom would be teased while the top was thought of as more masculine
sourcebooks.fordham.edu/pwh/gayvik.asp

>Homosexuality was not regarded by the Viking peoples as being evil, innately against the laws of nature or any of the other baggage about the concept that Christian belief has provided Western culture. Rather, it was felt that a man who subjected himself to another in sexual affairs would do the same in other areas, being a follower rather than a leader, and allowing others to do his thinking or fighting for him. Thus, homosexual sex was not what was condemned, but rather the failure to stand for one's self and make one's own decisions, to fight one's own fights, which went directly against the Nordic ethic of self-reliance. (Sorenson 20)

Youve admitted to being a maniac who believes a jewish sect has saved your life, and that Europeans have a duty to follow you.

I'd believe in nothing before I believed in that utter shit you idiot.

One morality (yours) tells me what to do and makes me a jewish convert, the other affords me autonomy to decide what it best for me and mine. Of course, a slave morality would choose the first. But we are not your slaves, you can be a slave, but you won't sell the idea that slavery is better than personal opinion to me.

>Meanwhile, at pagan homochurch

In Iceland homopaganism is becoming very popular, they even have a Norse pagan marriage ceremony:

grapevine.is/news/2015/05/15/old-norse-weddings-becoming-more-popular-for-same-sex-couples/
>Gay Iceland reports that the full legalisation of same-sex marriage in Iceland in 2010 has prompted many couples to choose the country as a destination to tie the knot. Increasingly, many of those couples are opting to skip having a church wedding and go full Old Norse, joining together in sacred matrimony in a ceremony conducted by Ásatrúarfélagið.

>“There has been a massive increase in demand for same-sex wedding ceremonies in the last year, an explosion really,” Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, high chieftain of Ásatrúarfélagið, told Gay Iceland. “The pagan belief is very inclusive and we are open to all opinions. So we welcome all, gay or straight, Icelandic or foreign.”

Saying Christianity is jewdized is retarded. Under pagan Rome, Jews enjoyed full citizen rights, as in most of the pagan world, including Greece, Syria, etc. However, once Christianity became a political power, around the 4-5th centuries, Rome made it illegal for Christian citizens to practice Jewish customs, and even turned many pagan practices into Christian traditions.

By the turn of the 11th century, most European nations were already Christian and totally different from rabbinic or Talmudic Judaism. In fact, no christian nation has ever historically adapted anything from Judaism. (Which is why I use the term Christian values, not Judeo-Christian, as that never existed). There was no commonality in the practice of these two religions. Even the interpretation of biblical laws were different. In fact, even Jesus himself condemned the Jews of his day and all their unbiblical or extrabiblical laws. Jesus was one of the biggest opponents of "Jews", which is why they passionately hated him.

By the 16th century, many European countries already had a history of expelling Jews or making them pay extra fines/taxes to live there. Most Jews didn't enjoy full citizenship rights either.

The only reason why "Jews" have been able to get such power, wealth, etc, in these recent past centuries is because they hate Christians. Their whole purpose of gaining global power and influence is to destroy Christianity and Christendom (the Western world), or White people, who are the ones who spread Christianity to other peoples.

Jews were able to live with pagans because they mutually did not pose a threat to each other. They stayed separate for the most part, e.g. kept to themselves (in designated communities, e.g. Greece, Syria, etc). When Christianity came to the forefront, the world was turned upside down, and Christianity gained the most influence in every aspect of life. This turned certain "Jews" in power to become anti-christ, just as when Jesus himself came.

A very homo country is now faggotizing paganism, hm. Meanwhile at catholicism... Maybe someone should teach these people to read about how pagans prescribed homossexuality (by drowning them in mud) or what is written about sodomy in the christian bible...

Once Christianity became the state religion in Rome, all other religions were outlawed, only Judaism was recognized as a parallel religion. The jews benefited a lot from having a network of "abrahamic" neighbours who were glad to welcome them as "court jews" and give them privileges on usury and so on and, if expelled, by the call of the populace, have another abrahamic country ready to move on.

The popes, when not jews themselves up to Alexander VI, invited and maintained jewish communities in Italy, and shielded them from persecution, even agreeing with the Rothschild's monopoly.

I believe in God.

You've claimed you don't. And yet are somehow pushing paganism. You're a LARPing atheist.

Seeing as atheism is a Jewish invention, designed to weaken the Christian west by making its less intelligent and more susceptible members fedora wearing faggits, that makes you a kike.

Also, of you want to try and LARP as a religion, why did you chose one with gay Gods?

You write at length about the distinctions between Judaic morality and Christian morality, so far as to say the Jewish inspired Christian practices were banned.

You offer NOT ONE EXAMPLE of a distinction.

How was Judaism 2.0 different to Judaism 1.0?

>And then you remember that Jews have been expelled from virtually every Christian nation, and start to think maybe you don't know what you're talking about.

Larpin fags

>Germanic people voluntarily became Aryan Christians
>Anglo-Saxon pagans killed many Christian Celts
>Viking pagans killed many Christian Anglo-Sa xons
>Aryan Christians killed many Christian Romans and stole their land
>Aryan Christians in Spain were killed by a Muslim army, with many Pagan Berber troops
>Pagan Arabs did not stop Muhammad
>Charles the Great was also a Germanic tribesman, the only difference between him and Widukind is he actually had an organised,wealthy and great mpire, because he adopted Roman-Christian lawcodes,had a period called Carolingian Renaissance and took the God that legitemately allowed him to rule over more than some poor ass Woods who spend their time killing other Europeans
>Slavic Pagans allied with Asiatic Avars and Hungarians and killed many Europeans
>Saxons and others could only defend themselves because most People believed that their Christian based rule waqs legit
>The Tradition that caused civil wars against Germanic peoples (All Family members rights to rule, see Thankmar and Liudolf) is a Pagan Tradition
>Baltic People killed many European Poles and others
>Crusaders killed shitskins and got to Prussia, made it fertile
>Balts made an uprising, they were killed, boohoo they made a big mob and got killed because they didn't develop superior heavy Knight cavalry
>Balts later served the Knights
>If the Nordic crusades didn't happen, Scandinavian Kingdoms would not have resisted Mongols, because Tribes are awful at defending shit and did not care if they had to convert to protect Europe and actually bound together with the other 99% Europeans that had a faith that gave them protection, feeded them in bad times and promoted having as many Children as possible, unlike modern Pagan Hindus who Abort Girls
>Byzantine Christians fought Persian Pagans
>Pagan Europeans discover America, they retreat,
>Christian Europeans go there, Conservative Minorities and their workcodes help colonising it

How the FUCK could jews invent atheism? You think the first people who invented a god were already jewish? The ones who lived in Europe, never heard of Jewish myths, and didnt believe in religion, were jewish controlled?

YOURE A FUCKING IDIOT. Fact. There is no debate. To say that the absence of religious belief was invented by a specific group is so insane it would only be a thought that could be conjured by an insane person who talks to sky wizards who have jewish features.

This is outright false. Sorenson is a pro-homossexual author, trying to deturp ancient religions to push for mass-homossexuality. This is the guy from the Iceland fag "asatru temple"...

Any contemporary source will tell you the same as this:

>"Traitors and deserters are hanged on trees; the coward, the unwarlike, the man stained with abominable vices, is plunged into the mire of the morass, with a hurdle put over him. This distinction in punishment means that crime, they think, ought, in being punished, to be exposed, while infamy ought to be buried out of sight." (Tacitus, "Germania", chapter XII)

The "virtue" of the Germanics was notorious even among the Romans and the early christians...

Not from the papal states, or Poland. They are still in Europe for a reason. There were no foreigners living among German or Celtic tribes, though...

Because Christianity has done more in 2000 years to destroy kikery than any other force in history. It's only recently that people have been lead away by (((atheism))) that society has so much poz. Pretending to play irl skyrim won't change anything, it just makes you look like fags.

You offer NOT ONE EXAMPLE of a distinction.

You are the worst marketter for jewish myths in a long time. You're just a rambling retard.

>Fedora tipping atheicuck mad that his pretend religion is made up by kikes

Amazing

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Let's face it; Atheism is so 2006. It's been kicked to the curb by everyone.

Atheists just can't get over the fact that they lost the culture war.

Let me take you under 18s back to the year of 2006:
>atheism on the rise on the internet with their voices getting more heard everyday
>atheist leaders like Dawkins, Harris, and (worst) Hitchens are respected voices in the community
>r/atheism is one of the top boards on bleddit
>corporate stores trying to push things like "Happy Holidays" and having "Holiday Trees"

Cut to today:
>Dawkins, Harris, and (worst) Hitchens (may he RIP) viewed as complete psychos for their insane political/social views
>r/atheism moved to the basement of bleddit because it was embarrassing euphoric garbage
>things like "Reason Rally" draw less than a Hitler impersonator at a bar mitvah
>atheist communities tear themselves apart over things like elevator gate (giving rise to New Atheism, and Atheism+, which are less successful than just regular Atheism)
>constant rape and sexual assault allegations at atheist conventions (even atheist leaders like Lawrence Krauss are accused...by other atheist leaders)
>"Happy Holidays" and "Holiday Trees" are a distant memory
>liberal atheists in Britain crushed by Brexit

And quite frankly all this bad stuff wasn't even needed. All it would have took was one euphoric quote and a couple of fedora pictures. Christianity is still kicking 2000 years later, and atheism is at it knees because of a jpeg of a fat guy in a fedora. Sad

The thing with christians is that they either go full deus vultard or full on liberal christcuck, either side uses cherrypicked passages from the bible to support their arguments, these days the pendulum is just swinging the other way.

>This damage control

Face it, people were faggots before Christ saved them. You can ignore sources all you want, but you just look retarded I don't see why this surprises you.

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>citing a jewish homosexual

>Germanic people were "converted" to christianity as foederati of the Roman Empire
>Christian Hebrews, Arabs and Copts killed many pagan Romans and did extensive vandalism in the empire
>Frankish christians killed many Allamanic, Bavarian, Frisian and Saxon pagans
>they attacked the Basque pagans, while they were being invaded by muslims, while sending an embassy to the caliph
>arabs completely wipe out any pagan temples they find, as commanded in the jewish bible
>Charlemagne starts a "renaissance" with his court full of jews, to whom he granted privileges with the consent of the church, while attacking pagan saxons and slavs
>his strong christian empire, which had 14 million people, still manages to be colonized by pagan Scandinavians (which numbered 250k in total) and almost destroyed by pagan hungarians
>religious wars over biblical interpretations later kill almost half of Germany in the "Thirty Years War", and permanently divide the country
>Crusaders completely wiped out their european "Old Prussian" neighbours
>attacked Russia and pagan Lithuania, while they were being invaded by mongols, but got defeated
>pagan Lithuania had to liberate christian Russia from the mongols because it was so weakened
>Byzantine Empires fought european pagans, got buttblasted by arab tribes
>Christians colonize the americas, promote massive race-mixing and protection of the natives, place is what it is now

And thousands of years later some christcuck retard will spew "church historicity", desptie the outright laws, to justify his "christian identity" above blood... Never forget, it was BASED "christianity" who build europe, not whites...

>Jew attacking Christianity and extolling the virtues of paganism for the goyim

Kinda proves my point

Of course Aristotle was a faggot, all pagans were on some level.

>Varg triggers you

>be paranoid schizophrenic in black metal band
>Kill a guy because of your paranoid schizophrenia
>spend years hard time in jail like a nigger
>released from jail
>marry young stupid autistic girl who for some reason likes you
>have 5 kids you cant adequately support like a literal nigger
>support using welfare
>live in a shit shack in france with no bathroom and running water like a literal nigger
>excuse for this is you want to live more "simple off the grid life" despite still using internet
>claim to be a farmer but cant farm for shit (like a nigger)
>make excuses talking out your ass about how fruit trees cant handle the sunlight of france (there are literal flourishing fruit groves in flordia)
>make more excuses about snails and vermin eating your plants and saying "oh this is nature, we wont do anything about it"
>larp as a viking in the woods (like a literal autist)
>make failing dungeons and dragons copy
>become one of the most historically illiterate youtube personalities to ever exist
>make retarded claims such as that autistic people are more empathetic, that europeans are 100% neanderthal, and were all blonde
>ban people on youtube when they call you out on your retarded theories

why the fuck does anyone take varg seriously. He is by far one of the most retarded people I ever listened to. yet some people on here seem to worship him and buy into his absolutely retarded ideas.

also let me know if I forgot anything in the greentext there is just too much

He says the same thing as the NSDAP and the "spiritual father" of the Third reich. Here, guess why they called the christianity of the main churches as "negative"?

>"In the case of the struggling young Christianity, for example, the Jews, quick as a flash, began hanging onto its coattails. Consider Paul, properly called Schaul, who was a rabbinical student. As a Jew, Paul certainly knew that of all the peoples of the world the Jews, first and foremost, needed their souls saved. 'Go not ... to the Gentiles, ... But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel,' demanded Christ (Matthew 10:56). Paul ignored it. He went to the Greeks and the Romans and brought them his 'Christianity.' A 'Christianity' with which the Roman Empire became unhinged. 'All men are equal! Brotherhood! Pacifism! No more privileges!'… And the Jew triumphed." - Dietrich Eckart, "Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin, a conversation between Hitler and Me" (Eckart was honored in the second book of Mein Kampf)

>self-flagellation is the peak of heterossexuality

Projecting

You realise Hitler was a Christian, right?

Those who deny Hitler as a Christian will invariably find the recorded table talk conversations of Hitler from 1941 to 1944 as incontrovertible evidence that he could not have been a Christian. The source usually comes from the English translation (from a French translation) edition by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens, with an introduction by H.R. Trevor-Roper.

The table-talk has Hitler saying such things such as:

>"I shall never come to terms with the Christian lie. . .",

> "Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity".

The problem with these anti-Christian quotes is that the German text of the table-talk does not include them, they were made up by François Genoud, the translator of the French version, the very version that English translations rely on>

Even if you believed the table-talk included the anti-Christian quotes, nowhere in the talk does Hitler speak against Jesus or his own brand of Christianity. On the contrary, the table-talk has Hitler speaking admirably about Jesus. Hitler did, of course criticize organized religion in a political sense (as do many Christians today), but never in a religious sense. But the problems with using Hitler's table talk conversations as evidence for Hitler's apostasy are manyfold:

1) The reliability of the source (hearsay and editing by the anti-Catholic, Bormann)
2) The reliability of multiple translations, from German to French to English.
3) The bias of the translators (especially Genoud).

4) The table-talk reflects thoughts that do not occur in Hitler's other private or public conversations.

5) Nowhere does Hitler denounce Jesus or his own brand of Christianity.

6) The "anti-Christian" portions of Table-Talk does not concur with Hitler's actions for "positive" Christianity.

>Marxism is a by product of Christianity

Are you a shill? My fucking great grand pa who was in the waffen ss has a death rune in his grave. Hitler harte christianity

That's not a tripfag. It's a namefag, but not a tripfag.

>you don't understsnd
>me and everyone who agrees with me will say the same subjective jewish-meme trite, therefore I'm right and you're absolutely wrong
Christians, everybody. Not a single non-delusional brain cell in their head. I bet you think the bible is anything compatible to scientific theory too. So retarded

Hmm, you say that, but here I have the man himself saying otherwise

youtu.be/Sz42hBg4jys

You know what, because he knew that atheism was a Jewish invention.

>musical legend, starts a whole musical genre with his one-man band, still makes a lot of money because of it today
>kill guy who planned to kill you, a communist homossexual who had induced his fellow bandmate to suicide and took a picture of the body as souvenir
>marry qt blonde
>explicitly says he doesn't take welfare, but that he doesn't pay income taxes because he has many children and doesn't apply to even the lowest bracket (this triggers the cuck)
>live in a cozy huge property in the countryside, with his own running water
>claims to be a permaculturist, does gardening according to these principles, for fun and the way he wants
>has hobbies he also uses to homeschool his children
>release a redpilled tabletop rpg, makes money from it
>destroys "church historicity" very easily, cucks screech
>also has time for anthropology writings, talking about PROTO-EUROPEANS
>retarded wagecuck goes out of his way to shill against him, because he shakes his fragile world-view, gets banned, cries

Keep the tears flowing... You're like the people who claim "Trump is a failed businessmen" who "has no shot", but keep talking about him all the time for some reason... Go mind degeneracy, not screech like a bitch over some guy who "triggered" you.

Lol retard, the Table Talks were commissioned by Hitler's, who tasked Martin Bormann, his closest aide and whom he described as his "most loyal follower" to collect. Bormann was given TWO secretaries at the Third Reich's expense.

All the contents of the Table Talks are corroborated by everyone else's remarks, like Speer's Table Talks and Otto Dietrich's memoirs. Out of the many people who knew Hitler and were present at these remarks, not a SINGLE one came out to denounce the table talks as a supposed forgery. Besides, his toughts there are entirely compatible with the NSDAP's actions, like Kirchenkampf and the persecution of churches, including, after 1941, the Rosenberg comission of a 30-point plan to create a national religion.

Stop denying things out of butthurt, face the redpill, your entire smoke over it just shows the truth of the remarks.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf
youtube.com/watch?v=CcOf94gMs8k

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>Christianity made Europe weak
>That's why we were strong and let Christianity utterly dominate Europe
>tfw too strong to defend my self

>I bet you think the bible is anything compatible to scientific theory too

Only atheists think in terms of science vs religion. Think of it this way, science is the measure and study of the physical using observation and experimentation. By it's very nature it cannot presume to offer any substantial view on the metaphysical. You cannot materially quantify the immaterial. It's like looking through a microscope and trying to find an atom of justice or a molecule of mercy.

I hope you see why you're being fallacious.

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Oh God, it's the LARPer version of the Communism/Islam/Nazism Boomermeme.

>Christianity is a Jewish trick
>Which is why Jesus flipped tables, drove jews out of the temple, and made them so shitter shattered that thousands of years later they're still kvetching about it

If you follow Christ, you're inherently against Jewish tricks.

>Has a swastika memeflag
>Posts Jewish propaganda

This is next level delusion. You are like the world's best goy. In the Secret Conversations with Hitler, two recently discovered confidential interviews were given by Richard Breiting in 1931. Breiting was a member of the German People's Party. In these conversations, (which were actually more private than the Table-Talk), Hitler reveals his aims and plans. Like the Table-Talk, the notes were taken in short-hand. Unlike the Table-Talk, which Hitler knew would later be revealed, Hitler was assured that his statements would be kept secret. Moreover, the Secret Conversations were authenticated as written solely by Breiting (unlike the editing by Bormann). Yet nowhere in these conversations does Hitler denounce religion. On the contrary, Hitler mentions a conciliation with Roman and German Catholicism where

>"people like von Papen and many others are establishing good relations with the Vatican."

In Hitler-- Memoirs of a Confidant, Hitler reveals himself through conversation to colleagues from a conference on economic policy. In it Hitler is reported to have spoken, glowingly, about raising the

>"treasures of the living Christ,"


> "The persecution of the true Christians and sanctimonious churches that have placed themselves between God and man and to turn away from the anti-Christian , smug individualism of the past,"

and

>"to educate the youth in particular in the spirit of those of Christ's words that we must interpret anew: love one another; be considerate of your fellow man; remember that each of you is not alone a creature of God, but that you are all brothers!" [Turner, Ch. 23]

Nowhere in the Memoirs do we find a Bormann-like anti-Christian statements as found in the Table-Talk.

If you really want it hammered into your head, listen to the man himself.

Biblical Jews and modern kikes aren't related, though. You're thinking of Khazars. I'm surprised pagans know so little history.

ITT

>Mr Silly vs MR ARYAN

Can we fucking stop this shit already? I'm a pagan but these threads are total cancer, stop stoking up conflict where there doesn't need to be.

Reminder to the thread:

It's a leftypol and CTR/other disinfo tactic to pretend to be a Pagan and attack Christianity, or pretend to be a Christian and attack paganism. They want you to grow resentment for both sides, they want you to hate your roots and where you came from (Pagan Europe) and what your culture grew and flourished in, what most of you consider European identity that you fight for (Christian Europe)

The pagan is our roots. The Christian is our history, and to hate either is to go against your ancestors. Atheism is the real devil here, rotting nations from the inside out. It's the choice of communists.

You know you can defend christianity against (((atheistic bolshevism))) without being yourself a christian. Hitler also executed several thousands of priests. Surrounded the party with pagan symbolism and members, and had SS divisions where 90% of the recruits left the church before joining (there was term for it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottgläubig).

They called the christianity of the main churches as "negative" for a reason. Here is what the "Reichsminister for church-affairs" said:

>"The Party stands on the basis of Positive Christianity. Christianity is not dependent upon the Apostle's Creed" - Hans Kerrl, 1937

Here is what his closest aide and his deputy Hess' (also an open pagan) sucessor said:

>"National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable" - Martin Bormann, 1941.

Hitler had to make a deal with the Vatican upon coming to power, because the catholics were scared of being wiped out in Germany. And they were to some degree, political christianity was nearly eradicated, religious institutions and publications were closed and so on.

The church opposed eugenics because of "muh abortions" and sponsored militant groups like "The White Rose", in the middle of the war, effectively siding with the Rothschilds and the Soviets over the European people. Generals formely associated with Political Christianity commited several acts of treason, like Paulus and the Abwehr, and were part of the "Schwarze Kapelle" who spied for the allies. These people form the party of Angela Merkel today...

You know what, I have no problem with this.

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