What a clusterfuck. The more I read about this the more it fucking stinks.
US drone overhead saw the whole thing take place. Drone couldn't do shit because it was unarmed. Why the fuck are they flying an unarmed drone in a warzone where ISIS is present.
French Air Force jets showed up in time but couldn't engage because they couldn't distinguis friend from foe. THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NATO ALLIANCE. Can you imagine Russians attacking Lithuania and US not being able to hit them because they can't tell who's their fucking ally? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
The vehicles they were driving were FUCKING UNARMED. Sending fucking special forces soldiers worth millions of dollars in training with fucking $30k Toyotas. WTF is wrong with the army? Why did they spend billions of dollars for the fucking JLTV if they're not using them in warzone. Two of these trucks would've BTFO of 50 militants and the engagement would've ended in 10 min max.
>Why the fuck are they flying an unarmed drone The same reason why they are not flying around with B2's and just nuking ISIS. Stop being retarded
>they couldn't distinguish friend from foe THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NATO ALLIANCE. its not current year plus 20 yet and friendlies arent walking around with blue CGI markers on their head. They are like 50 appart from each other and running all around the place. Youd be screaming the same shit if they ended up bombing friendlies
>fucking $30k Toyotas. Thats a legimate point but Israels safety has priority over American lifes and you are not a real American if you disagree. Part and parcel of serving the Israeli foreign legion.
Joseph Hall
this post was in the other thread SAGE faglord
Christopher Bailey
>THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NATO ALLIANCE. The French have strict ROE when it comes to air strikes, especially in a "friendly" country.
Nolan Flores
pretty much everyone who's not a CNN-watching retard knows america's a joke
David Lopez
video of ambush with isis nigger music over it is floating around.. it's interesting
Levi Bailey
It was simple, the good guys were in the orange smoke box, everything else was bad, wtf France D:
Josiah Peterson
Yes, I know dumbass. But that thread is archived and this shit is important.
>The same reason why they are not flying around with B2's and just nuking ISIS. Stop being retarded Flying an armed drone overhead is the cheapest and most efficient way to provide air cover. Not too much noise and long endurance for flights.
>its not current year plus 20 yet and friendlies arent walking around with blue CGI markers on their head. They are like 50 appart from each other and running all around the place. Youd be screaming the same shit if they ended up bombing friendlies Should be a wake up call in case of larger war. Obviously most engagements are in close range unless you're nuking a place. What kind of shitty excuse is that?
>Thats a legimate point but Israels safety has priority over American lifes and you are not a real American if you disagree. Part and parcel of serving the Israeli foreign legion. FUG
Bentley Thompson
How many of our Boys Casualty, and how many KIA? Should I pick up the Red Line and make The Call?
Ryan Barnes
4 KIA and 2 WIA
Ryder Gray
Feel sorry for the black guy. He died for a country that elected drumpf and wants his kind out.
All POC currently serving in the military should get out
Isaiah Taylor
Maybe they should all move to Niger and turn it into Wakanda.
Kevin Fisher
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Gavin Stewart
>Obviously most engagements are in close range No they arent. Not in current year for modern forces against primitive sandniggers in this kind of environment. This whole situation is something can and want to avoid, not "fix" with bigger pew pew and groundcalls for airstrikes. That herd of sandniggers should never have gotten close to that unit, the question isnt why where the drones unarmed but what the fuck where they doing and how could an ambush like this in the open savana happen in first place to US forces.
Logan Brooks
>special forces soldiers worth millions of dollars in training with fucking $30k Toyotas >special forces
there you go recruit, stop being this retarded and actual try joining the military. You'll realize nothing makes sense, for a reason
Jayden Sanders
looks like somebody up the chain of command has a conflict of interest
William Lopez
This entire event is due to gross negligence at the local command level for the JSOC/3rd SFG A-team assets that were in country. They became complacent and were conducting operations with very high risk exposure. Planning is where this mission started and absolutely where it failed. It will be and has been another hard learned lesson for USSOCOM, JSOC, Army SF groups and everyone else involved.
The French jets were the last hope for the guys who drove through the killzone and were trapped on the other side after the ambush kicked off (guys in the footage). There are many good reasons why they did not drop ordnance. I don't blame the French pilots or command as that would have been extremely likely to kill blu forces even if they had a JTAC/Controller stuck with them, which they didn't.
Sucks and good dudes paid for avoidable mistakes with blood. That being said you don't sign up with JSOC as a trigger puller without expecting a good chance you will die the same way these dudes did.
t. person in the "industry"
Leo Cooper
>Why the fuck are they flying an unarmed drone in a warzone where ISIS is present.
because most drones are for reconnaissance, and are utterly incapable of mounting weapons.
Hudson Green
My local sheriff's department in the bumfuck Midwest roll out with more armor when serving a warrant to a methhead. They break out their MRAP whenever they can.
Jack Watson
This. The only shred of comfort I get is that these soldiers died how isis dies everyday. Running in fear screaming for their god to save them. F
Ryder King
>four US soldiers -- Staff Sgt. Bryan C. Black, Staff Sgt. Jeremiah W. Johnson, Staff Sgt. Dustin M. Wright and Sgt. La David T. Johnson -were killed
> (OP) Sounds like a politician might have had a gripe with some of the soldiers, huh?
Maybe they posted something on facebook about defending the 2nd amendment.
Adrian Foster
That's not the reason here though. It's because Niger did not permit the US to operate armed drones in their Country at the time. That has since been rectified.
The US military is infested with niggers, women and faggots. Not to mention that most of the BDE and BN level commanders are a bunch of liberal faggots. I make it my mission to kick out niggers and gays.
Carson Adams
Tbh senpai ive toured a few african countries while deployed over there and the SD runs that shitshow. The ambassadors have the DoD by the balls and basically tell the commanders what roe is and cas and loadouts/kit. They literally are cucking us while we fight. They wanted to recruit me to DIA CI which I denied. Didnt want to end up like those poor men. Then again my life is pretty shit ass boring and poor, so looking back I sort of wish I would have accepted the offer.
Anthony Allen
SFG complacent color me surprised.
Aaron Jackson
>WTF is wrong with the army? Traditions. Fucking farmers strike back.
But being serious those guys just got waaay too relaxed and instead of holding the possition/fire controlling of the sightline they just tried to run away. Most likely they were doing escorting and niggerish training for years before the first red zone mission.
And just a little advice. Never try to run away while you have optics and potential air support, you will just die tired if you try to user. And dont forget those hand granades.
Charles Rivera
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
MUURKA WORLD POLICE for you know (((who))).
Idiots.
Mason Powell
/b is where i come for my military insight.
a virgin posted his version of events online. it must be true.
Nolan Stewart
Why bother having special forces if they just get their asses kicked by shit tier, dirt poor niggers?
Julian Perez
life is not call of duty. special forces are just dudes that train pro-america militias in friendly countries.
Eli Watson
This is why I could never join the military. If my boss fucks up now I just have to spend a couple hours undoing his retardation. If your boss fucks up in the military you fucking die.
Brayden Hernandez
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard all day but it's believable. Why do ambassadors get away with shit like this? They have zero military background in 99% of cases.
Gabriel Hall
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Joshua Sanchez
Get fucked amerifats. Maybe if you stopped bombing half the world for retarded reasons and fighting wars that arent yours american lives wouldnt be lost. The more amerifats die the better. Maybe at some point you will realize that shooting up random ass shitskins is not worth american lives. Until then the more americans get fucked the better.
Carter Brooks
That's why SOF groups are pretty unique. Generally speaking they are squared away folks with extreme levels of brotherhood stemming from the trust they place in each other. Heads have, are and will continue to roll for this fuckup.
Ryan Hill
>shit tier, dirt poor niggers
sounds like dominicans
Lucas James
>All POC currently serving in the military should get out
This but unironically.
Gavin Miller
>special forces are just dudes that train pro-america militias in friendly countries. You are missing special forces with military advisers. Special forces are responsible for close combat target extermination, air strike correction and different redline missions.
Send some special forces over so we can get some free guns plox.
Adam Myers
just ask the cia guys
Benjamin Nelson
> free
you just cant help with that nigger mentality, huh
Blake Mitchell
US military is forced under other country's Rules of Engagement. They are under the French umbrella of support, faggot, so the U.S. can't use air strikes.
Landon Sullivan
Why doesn't the US ever just Colonel Kilgore their shit up? That character from Apocalypse Now is based on a real Vietnam air cavalry colonel. Honestly, fly in there with a shit bunch of helicopters blasting music dropping napalm on these savages?
Carson Wood
What does JSOC have anything to do with this?
Lincoln Gomez
>French Air Force jets showed up in time but couldn't engage because they couldn't distinguis friend from foe. THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NATO ALLIANCE. Can you imagine Russians attacking Lithuania and US not being able to hit them because they can't tell who's their fucking ally? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST >"Command, we've got what looks like a bunch of niggers or perhaps shitskins driving around the desert in Toyota pickups with mounted guns shouting "ooga booga" and "alluha ackbar", request permission to engage" >"Roger that Golf Alpha Yankee Foxtrot Alpha Golf, you are clear to engage" Easy mistake.
Gabriel Barnes
why are we even in niger
Joshua Lopez
Civilian control of the military. Wouldn’t want to start a Reich would you?
Josiah Brooks
The Army Special Forces are specialists whose main activities are foreign internal defense and force multiplication. They are capable of direct action but that is not their bread and butter. Army SF has specialized DA teams that conduct raids and other direct action more in line with what you see Rangers and Army SMUs doing, but they are a very small part of the Army's Special Forces.
You are confusing Special Forces with special operations.
Hudson Allen
>US special forces >3 autists and a nigger >killed by jungle monkeys more like US very special forces
Parker Collins
"bring back our girls"
listen to queen obama you goy.
Benjamin Turner
Hello my white friend.
William Nguyen
that is nigeria. subtle difference
Colton Cooper
The US Army SF teams operate under JSOC in Africa (and elsewhere) who operates under USSOCOM who operates parallel to AFRICOM.
>under-equipped in a warzone >small group of soldiers >ranks filled by locals with no backbone or will to fight >trusting locals despite warning that many are siding with ISIS >using an unarmed van for transportation >any backup is two hours away by jet engine >drones watching the situation were unarmed A fuck-up from top to bottom, and yet only 4 of the 12 US soldiers died. Lucky, or maybe ISIS is just shit at combat since they lost half their fucking men in an ambush where they were doing the ambushing...
Bentley Ward
How were their two non-longtab holding KIAs? Was the redhead and black guy support and driving? How the fuck did POGs ever get put in the line of fire?
Leo Campbell
May be. I was describinf SF as they are known in Europe.
Gabriel Torres
US Army Special Forces do not operate under JSOC. I don't know where you're getting this information.
Zachary Clark
>american soldiers without air support get killed by enemy ambush
colour me surprised.. to my knowledge they're not taught the dynamics of a firefight. it seems to me they're only taught:
1, locate enemy fire 2, supress enemy position 3, call in air support
Cameron Anderson
>their *there
Angel Bell
WHAT? i find this not believable
honeslty they should have just called in the aistrikes on themself like that russian guy in syria . better die by FF than be captured dead or alive by those subhumans
James Butler
>they're not taught the dynamics of a firefight You want them to suppress and pivot outgunned 50:1? lmao, shut up you dumb fucking bong.
Wyatt Campbell
Pretty sure LaDavid set them up with the local niggers.
Jack Taylor
>like that russian guy in syria That was straight propaganda
Aiden Jones
Definitely.
Christian Reyes
rest in peace and god help their families
Landon Parker
They are trained to hold their ground and call in support, and not to retreat unless ordered to. If the Nigerians who were with them stayed to fight they would've easily killed the attacking force.
Robert Morgan
They acted nearly right, you cant ever run from fire withou losses. But they had bad discipline/no good commander inplace. Having air support you can suppress your enemy and hold the distance till the cavalery arrives.
Julian Clark
We’ve got a bit of a different org chart for these groups. Our Special Forces are honestly some of the least trained in direct action because their focus is elsewhere. Spent a year pulling security for a pair of SF officers and all they did was drink tea & talk on the radio.
Charles Wright
i read something about how the nigger probably ran away and left these guys. the niger niggers caught him anyway
Hudson Hughes
"ambush" is the keyword there you stupid nigger.
Jeremiah Williams
>SIS is just shit at combat since they lost half their fucking men in an ambush
who cares? most of ISIS's forces are the "allah guide my bullets" type with a smaller force of legitimately trained dudes.
Ethan Thomas
Do rangers even do DA anymore, now that that wars have simmered down? I get that it is their responsibility but do they actually get a chance to do much of it like I assume the Seal Teams do?
William Gonzalez
4 special forces in a fucking Toyota 30 monkeys with rusty AK's No air support Open terrain Think anyone would last longer kiwi? It's called battle, those lads knew the risk and paid the price. Pressing F to pay respects considering they lasted as long as they did, I doubt any other force would have fared better.
Isaac Moore
why does IS always put this shitty music over the video? any video without music? I want to hear the action
Elijah Fisher
S tfu
Andrew Cruz
JSOC has command authority over their mission(s) in Niger even though they aren't directly planning and managing the SF grpups. I'm not implying that any of the Army's SFGs are slotted under the JSOC umbrella fulltime.
Chase Nguyen
How much are you earning now and what was your plan after you left?
Mason Phillips
there is no ISIS video showing his body . usually they show them as trophy .
also where is video WITHOUT the fucking snackbar songs , i want to hear the shooting
Carson Hughes
>im gonna make things up because i cannot live in a world where blacks aren't what my headcanon says they are
Dominic Long
HOW MANY MORE MUST DIE? GUN CONTROL NOW
Noah Hall
Unarmed drones are lighter and better for scouting... durr Longer flight times.
Ryan Price
They clearly lost their A/V editor during a drone strike or something. They *were* making videos that looked like professionally-filmed movies, now they slap a song over a video with no attempt at sound mixing/leveling whatsoever.
Leo Morgan
You need superior volume of fire to suppress. These were two trucks cut off on the other side of a kill zone and immensely outnumbered. This isn't a round of video games.
Did you see anyone with even a belt fed weapon?
Parker Howard
Amen - and then they can find a different country that will respect them more. I hope the USA can survive that loss of diversity, but we'll have to risk it.
Jaxon Williams
Bong we took over this country from you, our former selves, because we knew how to shoot/move more effectively than the Brits/Hessians
Aaron Russell
>La (((David)))
Nolan Cruz
>simmered down The Ranger Battalions are as busy as ever. They are the undisputed kings of large scale DA where special operations is concerned.
Bentley Diaz
>You need superior volume of fire to suppress. You need an SMG and a good commander to suppress or at least keep the distance. Also, smoke grenades, correct use of vehicle parts can save your life in such harsh situation.
Adam Cox
Unsupported SF gets rekt by superior firepower all the time. They're not magicians and they die when out maneuvered and outgunned.
Jackson Jackson
>They became complacent~
That always happens. You take a couple bone headed faggots with Ranger tabs, add a couple fuckhead SF Baby's, and they think they are gods gift to the world. Oh, I got that wrong, they don't think.