Lately I have been hanging out on leftypol researching the communist revolution in Russia
Marxism is absolutely creepy as fuck. They have a bizarre hatred for anyone who has managed to make money and attain wealth
The bolsheviks were literally traveling in packs and committing petty crimes against business owners before the revolution took hold.
Today’s marxists are absolutely bizarre. How could you think that abolishing private property and having an entire society living under the exact same income/housing would be a good idea?
What would attract somebody to this ideology? It seems anti-human. And these people have an extreme hatred for normal humans and they only revere “oppressed” demographics of people.
The entire thing is just obsessed with killing happy successful people and championing poor failures. The fact that this ideology is popular with Milleniald creeps me out, I had no idea it was this evil.
How do you find lefty pol im new and want to do some collateral damage
Brody Nelson
Incomparable envy and hatred for those that have more than them; and a disdain for the poor.
Jaxon Rogers
Just google 8ch leftypol
Gabriel Gomez
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Austin Perry
yeah lenin was a total piece of shit who used to shout down his own party members screaming in their face if they disagreed with him on anything
nothing has changed their are still mentally retarded
Chase Hall
How the fuck did this guy win
I cannot imagine people getting behind this shit, it sounds like a horrible idea in practice once you study it
Eli Peterson
Thanks user
Benjamin Cooper
>I'm new We can tell from your reddit flag
Joshua Gomez
Watch this for more research on this anti-goodness mentality, it is strange indeed to a healthy mind. But imagine yourself when you were at your darkest, most depressed. Maybe you´ve never been poor, ugly, fat and without luck with the ladies or career. But imagine this.
Now feel the seething burning indignation, especially if you´ve been brainwashed to believe you are in this position due to OTHERS and it is THEIR responsibility to fix it, not yours, never yours, you are in fact helpless. Now hate
you will not be able to find it, due to your lacking intellect.
Nathaniel Moore
Found it just fine
Ian King
>It seems anti-human. It was created by and pushed by (and still is pushed by) jews.
There's your answer.
Grayson King
If you think this is a human being you are not redpilled.
Brody Kelly
>anti-human activity intensifies
Mason Gomez
Here's your fucking answer.
Blake Richardson
Those who cant climb, try to drag down others.
Dylan James
Yeah I saw a commie on YouTube earlier and he was getting aggressive with someone because he used the word "nor" and he took that and assumed he was a Conservative and had a trust fund etc. His profile said he has mental issues, but in a signally way.
They are terrible, morally and spiritually bankrupt people.
Jacob Bennett
No, you are mistaken. Donald Sterling is /ourguy/, even Donald Trump commented on that, a few years ago.
Wyatt Fisher
you need to think at what times people were living and what conditions normal workers had.
for example: it was mostly monopoly economies with corporations controlling the governments (quite literally). with rich being filthy rich and poor being miserably poor. Fordism is a good example of such conditions in america - workers were being paid $5 a day and there were literally mile-long queues of people wanting to work there. Henry Ford was exploiting it in all of the ways he could. early communist writers were using such examples and contrasted them in Russia.
Marxism is a very deep idea and it is incredibly hard to read such ideas with little or no knowledge about true depth of the meaning writers give. You also need to understand alienation, scarcity and distribuition of resources, base and ideology... etc etc...
>What would attract somebody to this ideology? It seems anti-human. And these people have an extreme hatred for normal humans and they only revere “oppressed” demographics of people.
people at that time ate dirt and prayed to the G. Marxism was very appealing to a normie. The ideas were interpreted and reinterpreted many many ways. Leninism and Stalinism are two completely different things. Stalinism is gulags and dictatorship only being covered by communism.
its really lots of shit you can say about marxsim but you shouldnt mix marxism with communism, leninism...
Ryder Barnes
>I had no idea it was this evil.
you still don't have any. communist were top1 worst criminals in human history, together with jews(becouse they were jews). They've tried all this "stealing from rich giving to poor" propaganda, but in reality they've created worse poverty than ever existed, and executed anyone who said a word about it or offered solution.
If you don't want to experience hell, kill your local commies. They are abominations and don't belive in God, therefore they are not God's children so it's not a murder
Thomas Fisher
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Jace Lee
From the communist manifesto
>abolition of the family >abolition of private property >abolition of inheritance
It’s evil and jewish as fuck
Julian Gomez
henry ford invented the modern pension system and employee health benifits you lying pinko commie fag
Sebastian Ross
Looks like a fucking demon Jesus Christ...
Austin Baker
you commies can only cite history once you rewrite it
Samuel Peterson
It's still a Reddit flag user
Samuel Bailey
David Horowitz helped me understand their thinking better than anyone. Would highly recommend watching his interviews/speeches, and reading all of his books.
“We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes, and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”
Grayson Ramirez
>What would attract somebody to this ideology? >The entire thing is just obsessed with ... championing poor failures. You were so close, have you figured it out yet? If not what sort of movement would a person support? A movement that championed them, right? Get it yet?
Blake Robinson
It's an ideology of pure resentment. They don't give a shit about poor people, they just envy and hate the rich. They need to constantly blame others so that they can cover their own incompetence: first they used socio-economic class to identify the "oppressors", but that didn't work out, so they have now switched to gender and race.
Nathan Kelly
>It seems anti-human.
It is anti-human, it's the Beast system
Andrew Diaz
that's what everyone does it's parlimentary standard
Carter Nguyen
>jews are greedy assholes and billionaires that own everything >jews are communists that want to share everything and distribute the wealth
Sup Forums is pretty retarded
John Brooks
>The entire thing is just obsessed with killing happy successful people wtf I love Marxism now
Christian Thompson
>Harvard Fuck off you kike
Nicholas Sullivan
nice videos, thanks
Angel Wood
Nowhere in that does it say that an EMT will leave you to die if they don't find insurance, m8. Stop moving those goalposts.
Andrew Richardson
I suggest reading: Mig Pilot by John Barron about the paradise that jewish communism was for a middle ranking goyim.
>first they used socio-economic class to identify the "oppressors", but that didn't work out, so they have now switched to gender and race. this transition from interclass struggle to the struggle of subcultural groups is the effect of modernity. Michel Foucalt writes about it if you are interested.
also you can't blame one, two, three... actors in the whole system. The problem is the natural transition of our society as a system from one condition to the other.
Adrian Ross
It was also popular among boomers
Millennials and boomers are the same trash
Brandon Russell
>doesn't understand how communism actually works in practice
Samuel Long
Killing Commies is a moral duty, but it is also fun. It is of utmost importance to always talk about it with a smile in your face, joke about it, and paint it as the wholesome activity it is, so larpers gravitate out of its maligned nature.
Connor Bennett
im not saying in any way that communism was good. I was answering why such an ideology would appeal to an average worker.
Isaiah Ross
>and basically all the social care systems in the west are here only because the governments were afraid of similar workers uprisings on their soil :^)
And it worked. There was and will not be a western communist uprising, because that same free market system will subsume any external threat in the manner you described. Such is the strength of our societies. Neomarxism will fail in the same manner. You're trying to fight homeostasis and natural law.
Thomas Smith
Two sides of the same shekel, why do you think communist Russia needed a rothchild owned central banking system when imperial russia did not?
Isaac Cox
It was also created by the Jews.
Jackson Thomas
Got 'em
Elijah Jackson
FUCK RUSSIA COMMIE KREMLIN KIKES
Lucas Garcia
>They have a bizarre hatred for anyone who has managed to make money and attain wealth
I don't hate them. They aren't the problem, its the system that exploits everyone including them.
>The bolsheviks were literally traveling in packs and committing petty crimes against business owners before the revolution took hold.
How exactly do you fund an illegal revolutionary group other than that?
>ow could you think that abolishing private property and having an entire society living under the exact same income/housing would be a good idea?
Read Marx.
>"But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time; and labor, to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity, otherwise it ceases to be a standard of measurement. This equal right is an unequal right for unequal labor."
>And these people have an extreme hatred for normal humans and they only revere “oppressed” demographics of people.
If you had actually read Marx before making this post you would know that Marxism is not a simplistic opressor/oppressed dynamic.
Carson Morgan
we dare you ;)
Nathaniel Jones
>that flag >that retarded comment
kike pls go
Liam Bailey
You should read Das Kapital. He makes some decent arguments but his 'solution' to the 'problem' is absolutely retarded and has caused catastrophic levels of human suffering. >inb4 not muh real commmunism
Aaron Nelson
better read modern interpretations of marx. it is indcredibly hard to read original translation and will most likely make absolutely no sense if you are new to sociology/philosophy.
also if you are starting to explore this field, better get a guide to all of the ideas Marx and Hegel wrote about.
Jordan Parker
There are still rich people in a communist system - the Jews. Everyone else are poor slaves.
Josiah Flores
fartmunism is fart.
Samuel Ross
Why do they all hate farmers so much? This seems to be a tradition with Marxists they attack the farmers first when they take control. And lol at the people who say rural farmers vote against their own interests by voting for conservatives when the entire history of the left has been the removal and slaughter of farmers.
John Moore
>Watch this for more research on this anti-goodness mentality, it is strange indeed to a healthy mind. But imagine yourself when you were at your darkest, most depressed. Maybe you´ve never been poor, ugly, fat and without luck with the ladies or career. But imagine this. >Now feel the seething burning indignation, especially if you´ve been brainwashed to believe you are in this position due to OTHERS and it is THEIR responsibility to fix it, not yours, never yours, you are in fact helpless. >Now hate I am a testament to this; I know that hate and I managed to turn my life around. I lost most of my friends and family because they're still angry or fat or ugly or poor. Desperate to blame anyone but themselves.
Jose Diaz
were you born on a farm?
you are making 0 sense buddy. proof, or it didnt happen
Ryder Gonzalez
it's actually a fascinating story, read up on it sometime.
tl;dr he came back from exile when people were upset about hard times and were already rioting and the revolution was ongoing. one of the major socialist groups was the soviets, who had a really fragile system of voting and committee. Lenin took control of this because they were retards, and because of those retards the commie superpower of the 20th century was called the USSR
Camden Taylor
In what way was Soviet communism a failure? It managed to bring food security and industrialisation to some of the most historically food insecure and backwards places on earth in a single generation.
Juan Torres
this post stinks of brainwashing and lack of critical thinking
Imagine you grew up in world where communism was the norm. Where you weren't forcefed advertising that targeted your greed, gluttony or personal neuroses from the second your developing brain was capable of recognising the funny shapes on the box in the corner.
Think about how weird capitalism would sound. Countries trading in debt and 'money' that is based on that debt and worse, the trading of that debt. Where the rich can do anything. Anything. Where a restaurant started in bumfuck nowhere in America cuts down half the rainforest or automatic weapons are sold thirty feet away from nappies. Where the middle class, shoulder deep up their own arses, gain social points by having food made from ten different ingredients grown in ten different countries. Where there are professional lobbyists who are unelected officials who have more power than the box ticking 'representatives of the public' we elect
I dislike communism because it changes the human being into an extrovert who only functions in a group. It does have some points about living on what you need. Being the right person for the job. Not allowing large self interested industries to change laws for their own benefit. Shit like that. Communism sucks, democracy sucks. The only one I like is pure democracy where you have to vote, but thats never going to happen in my lifetime so I just go with nihilism. (and every now and then making a sickeningly naive post on a website that no-one cares about)
Henry Jones
+ education
also the impact on the global society is rather noticeable. althought the system is shit and no wonder it fell apart.
the idea was so pure, but the people fucked it up again
Joseph Morris
They also love to steal the farms, the inheritance taxes they push are to rob them of their only means of subsistance. The reason they expoliate them in Europe is because EU gives CRAZY AMOUNTS OF MONEY to farm owners, so corrupt socialists want to get their clutches on the ones not already owned by nobility. It is probably the biggest scam in the EU, far more money is funneled this way than other obvious scams such as feminism and illegal immigration.
Tyler Nguyen
>people die of conditions caused by being lazy and gluttonous health insurance wouldn't fix these people
Logan Baker
Kulaks weren't really farmers. They rented land and hired farmers to do their work and they needed to be eliminated as a class for the collectivization of the farms and the introduction of modern technology to work. With kulaks and small peasant bourgoise in order to introduce new equipment and farming techniques to bring the USSR up the the standard of the rest of the world the state would have had to go around and give the necessary tools and training to every single farmer. With collectivized farms and the elmination of kulaks they could give one set of tools and train many people at once to modernize food production fast. It was only because of bad weather and kulak grain hoarding and livestock slaughter that this initially caused famine, all though this was the last famine in the USSR (not caused by an invasion) a region that historically had frequent famine.
Oliver Baker
Look man, I get that the workers are being exploited and you 'kiss ass like a bitch so you can get rich while your boss gets richer off you'. The problem with your gay ideology is the labor theory of value. Labor is not a commodity and a set value cannot be placed on it. To do so effectively would require getting down to the minutia of cellular metabolism to determine the ultimate level of labor input. Capitalism works way better because it encourages innovation, with the market dictating prices based on supply and demand. Everything is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I don't see a problem here. The only thing preventing your success in life is your own lack of ambition, so quit bitching about being exploited and start moving up in the world you colossal faggot.
Asher Brooks
What're you talking about? Stalin killed like 5 million farmers, Mao took all the farms and killed all the farmers who wouldnt give up their land(causing the largest famine in world history), Zimbabwe/Cuba/Vietnam all confiscated their land. The history of the hard-left has been VERY anti-farmer, this is well known.
Nathan Kelly
The problem is the fact that communism always boils down to a simplified dynamic because only stupid people support overthrowing the current system to instate a system where they're not rewarded for being better than other people. Its those same people, the useful idiots, that wind up representing and embodying your system.
Easton Williams
because farmers are sort of independent. they're business owners, landowners. They make the food. any opportunity for someone to exist outside the perfect commie system is supposed to be crushed
if that's your definition of capitalism, then communism isn't the only alternative
Andrew James
>jews are communists that want to share everything Nobody said this. They want to distribute all the wealth with the lion's share going to themselves.
David Ross
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Josiah Robinson
now you understand how we feel
I'd stick around and argue your points, provide sources and literature but I've done it a million times on this shithole and it goes nowhere.
Asher Hill
Mental illness is what attracts pawns to slavery to tje Zog. Literally.
Liam Murphy
How about that it killed 10s of millions of people?
How about the fact that it took 10 years to buy a car?
How about the fact that it screwed over Russia and Eastern Europe economically for decades?
How about the fact that the average person was even poorer than the poor in the US?
You don't understand the labor theory of value or central planning.
First the labor they of value is not a theory of how to set prices in a communist society, it an a tool to analyze where goods get their value in capitalist society.
Secondly, what gives markets the magical power to dictate prices that say a large computer network couldn't? Simply make more when people are buying a less and make less when people are buying less, in the mean time adjust prices accordingly. You could even use computers like amazon does to predict demand .
Exactly why would paying someone more who works harder like Stalin did under the five year plan not encourage people to work harder? And what gives a capitalism the unique power to innovate?
>The only thing preventing your success in life is your own lack of ambition, so quit bitching about being exploited and start moving up in the world you colossal faggot.
Do you honestly think this is true for everyone in the world? Would you say this to a Chinese wage slave? The only reason we live the life we do is the brutal exploitation of the third world.
David Diaz
i fucking love Sup Forums for how some of the most intellectual people come together with the worst scum man can find. and you cant tell them appart really
James Turner
I never got the instant jump from gay marriage to paedophilia. There's no decrease in adult consent in that list (unless you think gayness is a mental disorder)
Wouldn't it be Gay marriage > Decrease in age of sexual education > public displays of sex/removal of the watershed > self determining when you are an 'adult' > sex becoming as casual as playing games with a friend > parent child relationship being more like a mentor > then paedophilia > then animals for some reason cos why not
Chase Nelson
i will argue this one quickly, though >obsessed with killing happy successful people and championing poor failures
By successful people you obviously mean the business owners, the land owners etc. i.e. those in control of private property. How did they become wealthy? Through the labour of the working class. They took out a loan, purchased/rented a facility built by the working class, provided materials made by the working class for his employees to produce products so he can make money. His entire existence relies on the labor of others.
Easton Fisher
thats not what i think capitalism is, but its the mirror to when people say communism is about not owning property or hating the rich
Jayden Scott
That flag, that logic, that conclusion.
You must think you have a very high IQ. You forget that there is a whole world outside of your low IQ family.
Levi Stewart
>How about that it killed 10s of millions of people? Source. >How about the fact that it took 10 years to buy a car? This was a product of bureaucracy and revsinonism that took over after the death of Stalin and reintroduced capitalist elements into the USSR. >How about the fact that it screwed over Russia and Eastern Europe economically for decades? Why do nearly 64% of Russians think life was better under the USSR? (express.co.uk/news/world/701026/russians-life-better-soviet-union-ussr-sixty-four-percent) and do you think that a capitalist Russian empire would have been able to industrialize in a single generation like the USSR did? If so what makes you think that? No capitalist country has ever managed that.
Josiah Lewis
It depends on what you consider "social care".
Isaiah Allen
if you are working class and struggling to get by you should absolutely hate the rich. They are a parasitic class of people who's entire livelihood exists only because of us.
Jack Lewis
t. Eddie, the Northern scum.
Wyatt Garcia
So what’s your point?
You realize poor people in America go from making 15k per year to making 60k per year by starting a landscaping company right?
Jace Myers
Because gays have always been pedos, even if they larp as they are not, because thankfully a large part of society is still against child abuse. Gay and pedo is the same word in several languages. Gay groups were originally pedo groups, look for that info. Even the movies about Alan Turing tried to whitewash him as being a poor gay who was being unjustly prosecuted, when he was a fucking GAY PEDO. That's why they never ever for a moment show or talk about his crime.
Connor Wright
> to instate a system where they're not rewarded for being better than other people.
>But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time; and labor, to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity, otherwise it ceases to be a standard of measurement. This equal right is an unequal right for unequal labor.
Read Marx before you spout your atomic take on him.
Luis Wood
His entire existence relies on his skillset of organizing the labour of others. Get 20 people to build a house of cards, its not fucking easy
Andrew Clark
Rich people were once poor people or had an ancestor who was poor
I’m not seeing your point
Aiden Ward
>I will pay you x amount of dollars to perform y task >deal *autistic lefty screeching
Anthony Gutierrez
To own a farm in most of Europe has traditionally been a sign that you:
1) Are able to live on your own without working for others; 2) Are a relatively respected member of the community; 3) Probably descend from lower or middle ranking community or served in the army, therefore are somewhat in line with the interests of the upper class.
