Thread to discuss the drama caused by kadokawa firing tatsuki from the kemono friends project for people not involved with the Fanbase.
I undetstand that this is a difficult time for fans of the series and may not want outsiders sticking their nose into this but the situation had blown up enough that's it's really hard to not notice, perhaps a separate thread for us would be a fair compromise?
Robert Campbell
>tfw dodged a bullet by skipping this hot mess when it aired
Robert Cox
R.I.P
Ethan Adams
fuck this fucking meme show and fuck it's retarded autistic mlp-reject fanbase
David James
So Kadokawa's now pointing fingers at Mine. Article posted 12hr ago:
>Mine's a self-centered artist >Wanted to kick out Tatsuki and Yaoyorozu because he felt that they took the control of the franchise and suggested kicking Tatsuki in committee meeting >Maneuvered to get rid of Yaoyorozu after getting support of Kadokawa so that Mine can assume control of the IP
Charles Myers
Can mine legally take control of the ip?
Blake Martinez
>haha I didn't enjoy something I'm so clever
Jose Howard
If you want a thread for non-fans, then sure. But we are the most informed ones, you know. Just pass by our thread and ask. We got the news, just ask
Mine's art director called it out fake and anyone who believe it are a bunch of "BAAAAAAAAaKAAAAAAA" Here's the latest bomb from 2ch. Unconfirmed but it set some flames lit
Christian Cruz
Why the fuck do you even care about all this shit if you're not interested in the show?
Robert Long
I simply kek at those manchildren >b-but muh principle No get fucked kememe furfags
Adrian Anderson
Maybe they are scared that people will boycott Kino and Yucky Tuna next season? That said, looking at the PV of Kino, I am expecting it to be dead on arrival.
Ian Collins
I am glad that Mine's got people actively backing him up. He's been totally supportive of Tatsuki.
James Bailey
Thankfully the fanartists will start avoiding the franchise sooner than later
Less furshit is good
Nathan Nelson
I don't really give a shit about kemono friends, but Kadokawa seems to be happy to throw Mine under the bus, which would affect Sergeant Frog.
Grayson Edwards
I'm honestly glad kemofure is kill because now I can meme TAKESHOBO more
Gabriel Gray
Don't follow this series but Kadokawa are total scumbags. If they're taking a dump on KF what do you think they'll do to other series that people like? On another note all the people saying "teehee get fucked furfags" are blatant newfags/crossboarders. It's a sad day when people can't tell the difference between kemonomimi and furry shit.
Andrew Howard
Dude you can't make this much of a scene and expect other people not to notice
Oliver Gutierrez
We'll see how that goes. Some Nips have suggested that Kadokawa's argument means that they may crack down widely at anyone drawing doujin for all of their IP at the same time since those aren't really authorized material.
Landon Kelly
Because Kadokawa is getting desperate to find some ways to cover its ass. They bought out Nico Nico since 2014 and they've been losing money on that ever since, and it just so happened that the furfag anime actually turned the slide upside down this year, and that's been big business news.
Landon Cox
>But we are the most informed ones, Maybe ,maybe not When only one narrative is allowed I tend to get skeptical , this isn't a personal attack on you or the fanbase But I've been over this enough times with Sup Forums to know to take things with a grain of salt.
Michael Bailey
>furshit >furfags What the fuck is wrong with you? Since when catgirls became furryshit?
Nathaniel Walker
Kemono friends is the most overrated shit to ever be shat out this decade and you tards keep flooding the board with your epic Kadokawa raids.
Get a grip faglords
Oliver Sullivan
Newfriend here How does this compare to industry shitstorms of yore?
Ayden Butler
On the factual side, Kadokawa recently has not done well, I don't mean in the last month, but in the last few years. Nikkei did publish an article on the 25th which pointed to sacking the guy and the nonstop bleeding at Nico Nico Douga as reasons that weigh against their stock.
Cooper Bennett
It is larger than the sacking of Hideo Kojima. Does that give you an idea about the scale of this?
Michael Robinson
>one more thread spam so Mods will ban Kemono Friends on sight
Owen Ross
Nothing can compare.
Probably the first time Kadokawa was being challenged and losing. And by some cheap cgshit of all possible opponents
Ryan Sullivan
Not really I don't know who that is
Eli Richardson
>CCS That shit better not get run to the ground.
Ryan James
Didn't hiro use to run nico nico?
Andrew Reed
No. Nothing in anime world is as scandalous as this. The news is bigger than Japan calling for snap election, north korea hurling missile near it, and is next to the Fukushima nuclear disaster in mainstream press and twitter coverage.
Michael Lee
because it's more fun if you care about it. why miss out on the shitstorm of the year?
Jonathan Price
Nope. Hiro's not nearly that bigwig. Nico Nico's parent company's called Dwango, and Kadokawa purchased it in 2014 in a 'merger'.
Eli Rogers
Because he really could only see the furfag dimension of it. Don't blame him for having a tunnel vision though.
Kevin Allen
>He thinks mods do their job anymore
David Long
>He thinks does he even?
Lucas Gutierrez
Since Kemono Friends aired. It's a troll attempt, don't take it too seriously.
Sebastian Cox
Mine is really close with Tatsuki. Of course it was fake news.
Shame on you, Kadokawa. Really.
Aaron Fisher
The odd thing is that nips are alleging that this fake news is a Kadokawa hit piece instead of some sensationalist trying to cash in on it.
Christopher Butler
I've been lurking KemoFure threads for day and night since Tatsuki's tweet went live. Drama is its own reward. Hope and fear are beautiful things. So are triumph and submission. Good luck trying to harass a megacrop into letting 10 men who make CGI shows as a hobby into controlling their IP.
Jordan Hill
Mods have been extremely pro KF and anti-kado. Not saying that's a good or a bad thing but there's a solid precedent for how this is all going to shake out.
Angel Mitchell
Can you really be pro-Kadokawa?
Those guys milk Nico brutally hard and give it the shittiest interface of any such site. That site shills platinum membership and each 20min show cost you $3 a pop. The bandwidth is pathetic at that, and they've only started to switch over to HTML5 in the last few months.
There's also boteslut shit which they turned into a steaming pile of shit.
Nathaniel Hall
I'm of the opinion it was done as a provocation to bait out Yoshizaki's response over the matter. Seems to have worked as well as it could.
Jaxon Long
>Can you really be pro-Kadokawa? I can like other stuff tgey own and not kf
Caleb Parker
Mine himself didn't, but his colleagues have come to his defense very aggressively.
Matthew Nguyen
Anyone else notice the similarities between kf fanbase and bronies(not that I'm implying it's a bad thing)?
Luke Myers
I can't believe anime is finally dead
Tyler Anderson
I'm glad the threads turned into cancerous generals. If there was still a fun community the blow would've been much harder
Camden Rogers
>childish show about animal girls who talk about friendship
hmmm
Elijah Young
They are a huge publishing group. I don't even think that most people in their anime department knew what was going down in KF. Anime's not even the no1 biz of Kadokawa really.
Hell, they even own FROM software.
Matthew Carter
It sucks man, it's like a dream
Jack Rodriguez
Bronies can't unto Nip, and aren't Nip. I don't know if that's good or not.
Cameron Nguyen
It really isn't. The director is a literally who on Sup Forums.
Maybe on 2ch it's more of a big deal.
Austin Taylor
I hope this kills the show. 3D animation
Adrian Mitchell
I immediately made the comparison to western horse fuckers and eastern Furendsu. As always the east mirrors the west but with more efficiency and intensity. Nip KFfags are fucking insane.
Jace Mitchell
3dcg is doomed to die
Elijah Turner
>west >matters at all in this sort of thing
I think you're right though. That original user prolly was thinking about how big this shitstorm is on 4chins and not at glorious Nippon
Jeremiah Turner
Every time i hear the name "Japari" it reminds me the word "Yappari" which means in japanese "as expected".
Jeremiah Sanders
>I can't buy FROM games anymore I'll count that as a blessing, honestly. DS3 sucked dick and their Armoured Core entries have gotten progressively worse. BB might be their last decent non-meme game.
Eli Jones
Kadokawa's way faster than Hasbro. It took 2 seasons before Hasbro fired Lauren Faust. It only took Kadokawa 1 to sack Tatsuki. Hasbro's still using the same flash video animation firm while Kadokawa's sacked the animation firm completely.
Japan wins, baby.
Luke Bennett
Since we're doing tangential discussions, what are the fandoms about really? Not the "animal friendship" bullshit, like actual moods.
Joseph Long
Because an artist who put is heart and soul into a project was fired so that the corporation who owns it could make more money.
Anthony Garcia
HAHAHAHAHA You deserve it, FURFAG ! AHAHAHAHAHA. Bravo kadokawa.
Daniel Perez
But I thought that anyone dabbing in 3DCG ought to die horrible deaths.
Angel Price
>Implying any japanese animator works any less
Wyatt Rivera
The Faust firing was yet another parallel. Honestly they're eerily similar. In fans, in product, in corporate, in phenomena. It's fucking spooky
Daniel Bailey
But Lauren Faust wasn't the only one involved in the show. Tatsuki was one man army, and his lack of input would make a significant impact on the anime.
Joshua Taylor
Just Japan > USA.
Americans needed a whole team and millions to make a franchise. Nips needed 10 people using toasters while starving off of ramen to make a franchise.
Levi Barnes
Faust pretty much was a one man army. She designed all the characters herself along with their personalities and back stories. The literally did more than Tatsuki did. He added some stuff to Mine's pre-made world and pre-proposed anime set up, wrote and animated. Faust reworked an entire franchise solo, pitched it then got the minions required to make it into a show.
Christopher Martinez
You got numbers to back that up? While I don't doubt that this is big news but getting as much or more coverage than the above seems a bit much.
Hudson Wright
I've never watched kemono friends, I know that if I do I won't like it, but this show has clearly made a lot of people happy and to take that away for a slightly larger profit is unacceptable in my eyes. We've all seen a situation like this before and so we all know there will be no happy ending but from where I stand the camaraderie and indignation of a series that was killed young is preferable to a slow descent into mediocrity every time. Don't be sad that it's over, be happy that it ever happened at all.
Brandon Ramirez
The twitter trend for Tatsuki related tags alone would. I don't follow that shit but Nip's been going at that nonstop. let me see if i can find the post in the archive showing that.
Adam Morgan
Yes, but NicoNico != NicoNicoDouga even if it was supposed to be its english version. I still remember him making kids cry on live stream at conventions.
Luke Rogers
Twitter coverage yes but in term of TV coverage of course it is not going to beat the NK missiles and ther election.
Leo Walker
Tatsuki worked with Mine in developing an actual story for the anime that wasn't as dogshit as Nexon's mobage was. Faust had to pitch all of it to Hasbro while Kadokawa actually asked Mine to come up with the idea.
Ian Martinez
Didn't Tokyo TV refuse to stop airing the show during the missile event?
Zachary Martinez
It did though
Luis Hall
So as you say it was a two man effort v a one man effort. Sasuga
Juan Rodriguez
Why wasn't it as big a deal when she got canned then?
Jack Moore
Im sorry to burst your little fantasy bubble user but what gets deleted on this board is completely decided by which one of the anal pained mods are present at the time of day.
It's really only a coincidence that non of your threads have been deleted yet.
Benjamin Adams
>who cares if the system is corrupt dude? if it's corrupt it's corrupt. that's the way it is >lets just go back to whining about who's the culprit behind the harsh anime industry, low-paid workers, idol pandering, expensive BDs, mangakas not getting royalties, etc and hope it will change someday
William Powell
Yea, and Kadokawa's actually so low that they are putting out hit piece to accuse Mine of setting up the animation director and kick him out.
Nips are saying that Kadokawa's been hiring shills to attack the animation director online and those shills mobbed Mine's twitter feed today.
Ayden Gray
It's the same as boatsluts and GuP: it's all about the girls, dozens and dozens of them. They're all well designed and written, and the show very cleverly gives each a memorable scene. That begets ungodly amounts of fanart, and anons love good fan art. But in my opinion, what really put Kemono Friends over the top compared to other cute girl shows is the animal connection. Funny animal gifs are one of the pillars of Sup Forums and Internet culture, and have always been welcome here without a second thought about what exactly they have to do with anime or manga.
tl;dr It's Pokémon with cute girls
Camden Watson
Yaoyorozu is probably in the middle of making their version of KR2 with their resources and assets, and getting ready to sell it at comiket. There is no point of stressing out yourselves.
Levi Wright
Dude I've been through all this Mass effect Hold the line You people don't follow through You get bored and move on
Adam Barnes
The occasional KF thread used to be deleted or auto-saged. But even before then, the mods wouldd groom and trim the threads of obvious troll posts, flames, and spam.
As of recent, the former has largely ceased, but the latter continues.
Dominic Wood
>hiring shills Do you have concrete proof of this?
Cooper Phillips
Aside from 2chan user being serious about catching a shill through having a template header?
Robert Brooks
This would be true, except the mobile game and the manga both died prior to the show, and the anime was expected to fail. KF is certainly a cute girl show, no doubt, but it wasn't what made it succeed among the other myriad of cute girl properties around.
Isaiah Hall
It was but that's my point, whereas the west kicked a stink and moaned the east fucking lost it. Yeah I know about that. It sounds semi plausible though. Things change and given how much dick sucking there is for Tats right now I could see how Mine might feel he was being over shadowed. That or it could be nothing. There was no good source on that shit anyway
Ryder Jenkins
Why would Kadokawa throws a bone at their rival company Takeshobo to bite Mine when the his real teeth mark is at Shinchosha?
Jose Green
I just don't know. Frankly Kadokawa's internal communication is inconsistent. It looks as if that Nico's management was taken by total surprise for one.
Nolan White
>fantasy bubble I've seen it multiple times in multiple threads at different times of day. I pay attention because I occasionally Kadokawa post for hot (you)s. I haven't been deleted yet but I've seen a lot of less reasonable posters get burned really quickly and pro-kado threads get eliminated.
Ryan Gomez
Not saying it was or it wasn't but it's not hard to false flag a header to make people defending kado seem untrustworthy.
Jack Brown
Or is that you just copy and paste something straight from 2ch?
Justin Lee
I don't speak Nip at native level so what do I know other than reading what Nips have said...
Alexander Morris
>implying gag CGI anime like Tesabu and Gdgd Fairies aren't the best CGI is only truly bad when you use it to pull shit off like the Kino PV with her on the motorcycle.
Eli Sanchez
twitter as well. yeah, nips unirionically use twitter.
Jonathan Lewis
You don't need to know nip to have seen the screen shots.
Dominic Flores
Well, Nip suggested that Kadokawa would've send in the lawyer hounds if they had real dirt on the animation studio and the director, so what they are doing now is trying to goad the parties into saying something on twitter.