Thread to discuss the drama caused by kadokawa firing tatsuki from the kemono friends project for people not involved with the Fanbase.
I undetstand that this is a difficult time for fans of the series and may not want outsiders sticking their nose into this but the situation had blown up enough that's it's really hard to not notice, perhaps a separate thread for us would be a fair compromise?
>tfw dodged a bullet by skipping this hot mess when it aired
R.I.P
fuck this fucking meme show and fuck it's retarded autistic mlp-reject fanbase
So Kadokawa's now pointing fingers at Mine.
Article posted 12hr ago:
>Mine's a self-centered artist
>Wanted to kick out Tatsuki and Yaoyorozu because he felt that they took the control of the franchise and suggested kicking Tatsuki in committee meeting
>Maneuvered to get rid of Yaoyorozu after getting support of Kadokawa so that Mine can assume control of the IP
Can mine legally take control of the ip?
>haha I didn't enjoy something I'm so clever
If you want a thread for non-fans, then sure. But we are the most informed ones, you know.
Just pass by our thread and ask. We got the news, just ask
Mine's art director called it out fake and anyone who believe it are a bunch of "BAAAAAAAAaKAAAAAAA"
Here's the latest bomb from 2ch. Unconfirmed but it set some flames lit
Why the fuck do you even care about all this shit if you're not interested in the show?
I simply kek at those manchildren
>b-but muh principle
No get fucked kememe furfags
Maybe they are scared that people will boycott Kino and Yucky Tuna next season?
That said, looking at the PV of Kino, I am expecting it to be dead on arrival.
I am glad that Mine's got people actively backing him up. He's been totally supportive of Tatsuki.
Thankfully the fanartists will start avoiding the franchise sooner than later
Less furshit is good
I don't really give a shit about kemono friends, but Kadokawa seems to be happy to throw Mine under the bus, which would affect Sergeant Frog.
I'm honestly glad kemofure is kill because now I can meme TAKESHOBO more
Don't follow this series but Kadokawa are total scumbags. If they're taking a dump on KF what do you think they'll do to other series that people like?
On another note all the people saying "teehee get fucked furfags" are blatant newfags/crossboarders. It's a sad day when people can't tell the difference between kemonomimi and furry shit.
Dude you can't make this much of a scene and expect other people not to notice
We'll see how that goes. Some Nips have suggested that Kadokawa's argument means that they may crack down widely at anyone drawing doujin for all of their IP at the same time since those aren't really authorized material.
Because Kadokawa is getting desperate to find some ways to cover its ass. They bought out Nico Nico since 2014 and they've been losing money on that ever since, and it just so happened that the furfag anime actually turned the slide upside down this year, and that's been big business news.
>But we are the most informed ones,
Maybe ,maybe not
When only one narrative is allowed I tend to get skeptical , this isn't a personal attack on you or the fanbase
But I've been over this enough times with Sup Forums to know to take things with a grain of salt.
>furshit
>furfags
What the fuck is wrong with you? Since when catgirls became furryshit?
Kemono friends is the most overrated shit to ever be shat out this decade and you tards keep flooding the board with your epic Kadokawa raids.
Get a grip faglords
Newfriend here
How does this compare to industry shitstorms of yore?
On the factual side, Kadokawa recently has not done well, I don't mean in the last month, but in the last few years. Nikkei did publish an article on the 25th which pointed to sacking the guy and the nonstop bleeding at Nico Nico Douga as reasons that weigh against their stock.
It is larger than the sacking of Hideo Kojima. Does that give you an idea about the scale of this?
>one more thread spam so Mods will ban Kemono Friends on sight
Nothing can compare.
Probably the first time Kadokawa was being challenged and losing. And by some cheap cgshit of all possible opponents
Not really
I don't know who that is
>CCS
That shit better not get run to the ground.
Didn't hiro use to run nico nico?
No. Nothing in anime world is as scandalous as this. The news is bigger than Japan calling for snap election, north korea hurling missile near it, and is next to the Fukushima nuclear disaster in mainstream press and twitter coverage.
because it's more fun if you care about it. why miss out on the shitstorm of the year?
Nope. Hiro's not nearly that bigwig. Nico Nico's parent company's called Dwango, and Kadokawa purchased it in 2014 in a 'merger'.
Because he really could only see the furfag dimension of it. Don't blame him for having a tunnel vision though.
>He thinks mods do their job anymore
>He thinks
does he even?
Since Kemono Friends aired. It's a troll attempt, don't take it too seriously.
Mine is really close with Tatsuki. Of course it was fake news.
Shame on you, Kadokawa. Really.
The odd thing is that nips are alleging that this fake news is a Kadokawa hit piece instead of some sensationalist trying to cash in on it.
I've been lurking KemoFure threads for day and night since Tatsuki's tweet went live. Drama is its own reward. Hope and fear are beautiful things. So are triumph and submission.
Good luck trying to harass a megacrop into letting 10 men who make CGI shows as a hobby into controlling their IP.
Mods have been extremely pro KF and anti-kado. Not saying that's a good or a bad thing but there's a solid precedent for how this is all going to shake out.
Can you really be pro-Kadokawa?
Those guys milk Nico brutally hard and give it the shittiest interface of any such site. That site shills platinum membership and each 20min show cost you $3 a pop. The bandwidth is pathetic at that, and they've only started to switch over to HTML5 in the last few months.
There's also boteslut shit which they turned into a steaming pile of shit.
I'm of the opinion it was done as a provocation to bait out Yoshizaki's response over the matter. Seems to have worked as well as it could.
>Can you really be pro-Kadokawa?
I can like other stuff tgey own and not kf
Mine himself didn't, but his colleagues have come to his defense very aggressively.
Anyone else notice the similarities between kf fanbase and bronies(not that I'm implying it's a bad thing)?
I can't believe anime is finally dead
I'm glad the threads turned into cancerous generals. If there was still a fun community the blow would've been much harder
>childish show about animal girls who talk about friendship
hmmm
They are a huge publishing group. I don't even think that most people in their anime department knew what was going down in KF. Anime's not even the no1 biz of Kadokawa really.
Hell, they even own FROM software.
It sucks man, it's like a dream
Bronies can't unto Nip, and aren't Nip. I don't know if that's good or not.
It really isn't. The director is a literally who on Sup Forums.
Maybe on 2ch it's more of a big deal.
I hope this kills the show. 3D animation
I immediately made the comparison to western horse fuckers and eastern Furendsu. As always the east mirrors the west but with more efficiency and intensity. Nip KFfags are fucking insane.
3dcg is doomed to die
>west
>matters at all in this sort of thing
I think you're right though. That original user prolly was thinking about how big this shitstorm is on 4chins and not at glorious Nippon
Every time i hear the name "Japari" it reminds me the word "Yappari" which means in japanese "as expected".
>I can't buy FROM games anymore
I'll count that as a blessing, honestly. DS3 sucked dick and their Armoured Core entries have gotten progressively worse. BB might be their last decent non-meme game.
Kadokawa's way faster than Hasbro.
It took 2 seasons before Hasbro fired Lauren Faust. It only took Kadokawa 1 to sack Tatsuki.
Hasbro's still using the same flash video animation firm while Kadokawa's sacked the animation firm completely.
Japan wins, baby.
Since we're doing tangential discussions, what are the fandoms about really? Not the "animal friendship" bullshit, like actual moods.
Because an artist who put is heart and soul into a project was fired so that the corporation who owns it could make more money.
HAHAHAHAHA
You deserve it, FURFAG !
AHAHAHAHAHA.
Bravo kadokawa.
But I thought that anyone dabbing in 3DCG ought to die horrible deaths.
>Implying any japanese animator works any less
The Faust firing was yet another parallel. Honestly they're eerily similar. In fans, in product, in corporate, in phenomena. It's fucking spooky
But Lauren Faust wasn't the only one involved in the show. Tatsuki was one man army, and his lack of input would make a significant impact on the anime.
Just Japan > USA.
Americans needed a whole team and millions to make a franchise.
Nips needed 10 people using toasters while starving off of ramen to make a franchise.
Faust pretty much was a one man army. She designed all the characters herself along with their personalities and back stories. The literally did more than Tatsuki did. He added some stuff to Mine's pre-made world and pre-proposed anime set up, wrote and animated.
Faust reworked an entire franchise solo, pitched it then got the minions required to make it into a show.
You got numbers to back that up? While I don't doubt that this is big news but getting as much or more coverage than the above seems a bit much.
I've never watched kemono friends, I know that if I do I won't like it, but this show has clearly made a lot of people happy and to take that away for a slightly larger profit is unacceptable in my eyes. We've all seen a situation like this before and so we all know there will be no happy ending but from where I stand the camaraderie and indignation of a series that was killed young is preferable to a slow descent into mediocrity every time. Don't be sad that it's over, be happy that it ever happened at all.
The twitter trend for Tatsuki related tags alone would. I don't follow that shit but Nip's been going at that nonstop. let me see if i can find the post in the archive showing that.
Yes, but NicoNico != NicoNicoDouga even if it was supposed to be its english version. I still remember him making kids cry on live stream at conventions.
Twitter coverage yes but in term of TV coverage of course it is not going to beat the NK missiles and ther election.
Tatsuki worked with Mine in developing an actual story for the anime that wasn't as dogshit as Nexon's mobage was. Faust had to pitch all of it to Hasbro while Kadokawa actually asked Mine to come up with the idea.
Didn't Tokyo TV refuse to stop airing the show during the missile event?
It did though
So as you say it was a two man effort v a one man effort. Sasuga
Why wasn't it as big a deal when she got canned then?
Im sorry to burst your little fantasy bubble user but what gets deleted on this board is completely decided by which one of the anal pained mods are present at the time of day.
It's really only a coincidence that non of your threads have been deleted yet.
>who cares if the system is corrupt dude? if it's corrupt it's corrupt. that's the way it is
>lets just go back to whining about who's the culprit behind the harsh anime industry, low-paid workers, idol pandering, expensive BDs, mangakas not getting royalties, etc and hope it will change someday
Yea, and Kadokawa's actually so low that they are putting out hit piece to accuse Mine of setting up the animation director and kick him out.
Nips are saying that Kadokawa's been hiring shills to attack the animation director online and those shills mobbed Mine's twitter feed today.
It's the same as boatsluts and GuP: it's all about the girls, dozens and dozens of them. They're all well designed and written, and the show very cleverly gives each a memorable scene. That begets ungodly amounts of fanart, and anons love good fan art.
But in my opinion, what really put Kemono Friends over the top compared to other cute girl shows is the animal connection. Funny animal gifs are one of the pillars of Sup Forums and Internet culture, and have always been welcome here without a second thought about what exactly they have to do with anime or manga.
tl;dr It's Pokémon with cute girls
Yaoyorozu is probably in the middle of making their version of KR2 with their resources and assets, and getting ready to sell it at comiket.
There is no point of stressing out yourselves.
Dude I've been through all this
Mass effect
Hold the line
You people don't follow through
You get bored and move on
The occasional KF thread used to be deleted or auto-saged. But even before then, the mods wouldd groom and trim the threads of obvious troll posts, flames, and spam.
As of recent, the former has largely ceased, but the latter continues.
>hiring shills
Do you have concrete proof of this?
Aside from 2chan user being serious about catching a shill through having a template header?
This would be true, except the mobile game and the manga both died prior to the show, and the anime was expected to fail. KF is certainly a cute girl show, no doubt, but it wasn't what made it succeed among the other myriad of cute girl properties around.
It was but that's my point, whereas the west kicked a stink and moaned the east fucking lost it.
Yeah I know about that. It sounds semi plausible though. Things change and given how much dick sucking there is for Tats right now I could see how Mine might feel he was being over shadowed. That or it could be nothing. There was no good source on that shit anyway
Why would Kadokawa throws a bone at their rival company Takeshobo to bite Mine when the his real teeth mark is at Shinchosha?
I just don't know. Frankly Kadokawa's internal communication is inconsistent. It looks as if that Nico's management was taken by total surprise for one.
>fantasy bubble
I've seen it multiple times in multiple threads at different times of day. I pay attention because I occasionally Kadokawa post for hot (you)s. I haven't been deleted yet but I've seen a lot of less reasonable posters get burned really quickly and pro-kado threads get eliminated.
Not saying it was or it wasn't but it's not hard to false flag a header to make people defending kado seem untrustworthy.
Or is that you just copy and paste something straight from 2ch?
I don't speak Nip at native level so what do I know other than reading what Nips have said...
>implying gag CGI anime like Tesabu and Gdgd Fairies aren't the best
CGI is only truly bad when you use it to pull shit off like the Kino PV with her on the motorcycle.
twitter as well. yeah, nips unirionically use twitter.
You don't need to know nip to have seen the screen shots.
Well, Nip suggested that Kadokawa would've send in the lawyer hounds if they had real dirt on the animation studio and the director, so what they are doing now is trying to goad the parties into saying something on twitter.