>there are people on Sup Forums who still believe holocaust was real
kek
There are people on Sup Forums who still believe holocaust was real
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Isaac Thomas
Hitler never existed. He is made up by Jews to keep our faith and hope up. Churchill was a man of his times, trapped within the language games of the day. He saw Chaplin in The Great Dictator and, in order to make sense of the experience, postulated a reality and significance for Hitler which he simply never possessed.
>Does this mean the Second World War never happened?
Not at all! First of all, there is the evidence of all those movies from the 60s starring John Wayne. I just know in my heart that bad times really have occurred in multiple points along Jewish history. I guess you goys will just have to trust me and my associated press on this one.
Leo Gutierrez
It's real.
Anthony Reyes
>There are still people who perpetuate the holohoax meme.
kek
It's fine to be suspicious of the volume of the publicity of the holocaust by the jews, but denying anything happened is fucking retarded. All of it happened; there's just never been so much publicity about any other genocide in history, even though many have happened, many times on a grander scale. It's the only one in history that's ever even been named. It happened, though. Blanket denial makes you look like a moron, not "woke" or "based". Hate what you like, but protest the fact that it's too prevalent in history, or promote other genocides as being worse, or explain that the media on it is the only thing that makes it more famous than other heinous instances, but you don't appear to be privy to secret information when you claim it was a hoax; you sound uneducated and indoctrinated into a hate group. Here's a hint - no publicly respected figure with influence will ever lend credibility to your claims, nor to any group of people whose uniting factor is blind hatred of a group of people based upon their beliefs. It's political suicide. Even if it was true, it's still political suicide. Move on already.
Jackson Green
How can it be made up when there's people who say it's real. Checkmate deniers.
Nicholas Cooper
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Joshua Wilson
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Matthew Morgan
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Isaiah Davis
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Samuel Murphy
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Justin Cook
Yeah, the Nazi's never killed any jews, right?
Except for the ones they shot right in front of my grandparent's faces.
Kevin Gomez
So the holocaust was just a hologram and everyone else’s theory is wrong
Ian Sullivan
I don't think 6 million jews died during the holocaust. It could be anywhere from 1 to 3 million and it looks like internment camps where supplies ran low and disease spread easily.
It happened but not at the scale we are told.
Connor Carter
??What is it like having an IQ of 90??
Chase Parker
It is real
It’s real
Is real
Isreal
Israel
Colton Nguyen
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Logan Lopez
Who are you trying to argue with?
Lincoln Nguyen
isn't that speech mistranslated?
William Fisher
kek
It's bullshit, but it is indeed funny.
Anthony Gray
No.
Charles Miller
>grandparent's faces.
You mean your grandparents the resistance fighters don't you, boomer scum?
Bentley Smith
>It could be anywhere from 1 to 3 million
Where are you getting these numbers?
Justin Baker
But it did happen. And ~6 million Jews were killed.
Jordan Cook
>it looks like internment camps where supplies ran low and disease spread easily.
what about those who died in say 1940, 41 42 43?
what about the recorded mass shootings and use of gas vans in the east (one to two million people killed) do you not count them?
or do you think that the people sent to the camps in 1939/40 lived there happily until 1945 and then died of starvation because of nasty alllied bombing?
Given that we have for instance records of the jews of hungary being transported in 1943/44 and almost none were alive at the end of the war, and there weren't half a million bodies lying about. what happened to them?
Juan Hill
These holohoax fags are just grasping for control in a world that discards them.
Logan Powell
>Move on already.
Moreover, it makes us look like morons to constantly harp on something that happened 80 years ago. Normal people just don't care.
Even the Jew York Times only has 10 or so articles on the holocaust each year. /pol has like 10 threads per _day_.
Austin Bennett
you mean the deniers?
Jaxson Lee
Yeah.
Andrew Evans
This is the first time I have seen convincing evidence of the holocaust, why don't people post this more often when they try to proove it? Now I am more inclined to believe it happened rather than that it didn't.
Dylan Smith
lol it gets posted over and over again
Gavin Morales
Well, deniers deny everything... even forensic proof that Zyklon B was used in the gas chambers (there is a difference between delousing chambers and gas chambers in HCN conc.)
Carson Baker
How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions. 1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society). 2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power). 3)It determines what is held sacred in that society. For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions. 1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII. 2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on. 3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust. The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative. Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction. Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story. Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity. Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.
> Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.
Luis Price
I have been in dozens and dozens of holocaust threads for years so no it doesn't, unless this is a recent developement.
Angel Morgan
Nope, I've seen it posted years ago. Anyone who knows stuff about holocaust knows about it.
Kayden Reed
Whether the holocaust is true or not, I definitely agree on this
Christopher Perez
Well colour me surprised an user sees one YouTube video and magically his whole perception of the world changes. Have a shekel for being a good goyim
Jacob Barnes
It’s propaganda produced by Jews in the early 50s
Austin Smith
Assuming that Hitler started gassing Jews since day 1, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes.
6,000,000 Jews killed during 3,153,600 minutes comes out to 1.9 Jews per minute. That means Hitler killed roughly 1 Jew every 30 seconds. (LOL)
In Auschwitz, the most famous and biggest concentration camp, there are 15 crematoriums. According to Auschwitz survivors, Jews would go into the chamber, gassed for 15-20 minutes, then put into the oven.
It takes 1 hour to cremate a body using modern furnaces which operate at much higher temperatures than the traditional ovens at the camp. However, lets say that the ovens were operating at a level that we see today, that means it would take 1 hour, 20 minutes to gas and burn 15 Jews assuming they were all burned simultaneously. (Disregarding the time it would take for the gas to empty the chamber for the bodies to be transported from the chamber to the oven.) The elevators used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their weight capacity. However, for our greatest ally, we're going to assume that bodies were teleported instantly from chamber to oven.
That means 15 Jews were gassed and burned every 1.2 hours. That comes out to exactly 300 Jews every 24 hours (Assuming the gassing and burning of Jews was happening every hour straight for 6 years on an uninterrupted basis) the total number of jews killed would be 657,000 for those 6 years. The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone.
How can any Jew, Israeli, or Shill ever even argue this story when just simple math is enough to destroy the whole argument? Can any Jews respond to this?
Parker Jenkins
I post it in every thread I see. They object that ausrotten doesn't mean exterminate. But since you're a native German speaker, you know otherwise. Also Himmler connected it with umbringen:
"Es trat an uns die Frage heran: Wie ist es mit den Frauen und Kindern? Ich habe mich entschlossen, auch hier eine ganz klare Lösung zu finden. Ich hielt mich nämlich nicht für berechtigt, die Männer auszurotten- sprich also, umzubringen oder umbringen zu lassen – und die Rächer in Gestalt der Kinder für unsere Söhne und Enkel groß werden zu lassen. Es mußte der schwere Entschluß gefaßt werden, dieses Volk von der Erde verschwinden zu lassen."
Other objections are that it's not Himmler, but that's proven also wrong with 2nd Posen Speech recording.
Some even claim it's fake, but there is a transcript with sigil, it's a recorded event etc.
Noah White
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Hunter Phillips
I am still very sceptical of it, as I was before, I just changed from
"I am really unsure but I think it might not have happened"
to
"I am really unsure but I think it might have happened"
Lincoln Moore
It’s about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world’s population, yet look at all they control from the world’s finances to the media that brainwashes us. In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort. The truth about immigration, by the numbers: >youtube.com
Thomas Jones
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Josiah Phillips
Incorrect, the recording and the transcript were recovered after the war.
Juan Stewart
you got any evidence of that? Unless it's fake (the voice does sound a bit different but it could definitely still be him) and the words didn't change in the last 100 years too much, this seems like a pretty decent piece of evidence to me.
I gotta look up what "ausrotten" and "umbringen" meant back then, because today those can only mean kill all of them.
Christopher Cox
6 million Jews weren't cremated.
6 million Jews weren't gassed - 6 million Jews were killed (5,1 million conservative estimation - 6,3 million furthest)
It's not the official story that 4 million Jews died in Auschwitz alone, you total idiot - that's an estimation by the Soviets put during Nuremberg, it was dismissed as it was based on calculations of the crematorium capacities.
There were also open air cremations.
Also Germans murdered 3 million Soviet PoWs (through gassings, starvation, forced labor,...), but nobody objects on that, 2 million ethnic Poles, 1 million non-Ethnic Poles, several million Soviet civilians, etc. - yet nobody objects on that. Funny.
Carson Brooks
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Leo Ward
b-but w-why loving Hitler if the holocaust was not real ?!
Ethan Campbell
Why even use a meme flag if you're not even going to translate your filename from hebrew?
You people aren't as clever as you think you are.
Jace Sanchez
"thar must never be tell in public"
> record it
lol
Kevin Wright
Means the same, as I've already shown... "Ich hielt mich nämlich nicht für berechtigt, die Männer auszurotten- sprich also, umzubringen oder umbringen zu lassen " That's from 6th October Posen Speech."
Also in the same speech he says that the Nazi Party is exterminating the Jews, he also says - "We have the moral right to kill this people [dieses Volk] (Jews)" with the verb umbringen.
Austin Ross
>today those can only mean kill all of them.
non white detected. the word root is right there in the word
Justin Wilson
It wasn't recorded for public release.
Aiden Ortiz
>over 1 million killed at auschwitz
where is the genetic evidence
Caleb Sanders
Nathaniel Evans
That's Yiddish, not Hebrew. And I don't care.
That's a very long speech to SS members. They didn't think they would lose the war, sweetie. You can even download it. nizkor.org
Caleb Wood
He is starting with the - jewish evacuation - meaning that is the name of the plan.
To EVACUATE THE JEWS
Ausrottung =/= extermination
Ausrottung des judishem Volkes means the destruction of the Jewish hive mind that has brought communism and tried to destroy Germany.
He talks about shooting germans who misconducted themself against the Jews and that stealing from them is unlawful, you wouldn’t say that if his intent was to gas them
Bentley Nguyen
I said today you idiot.
I can definitely see that ausrotten can be understood differently (still gotta look that up), what I am more concerned with is when he says umbringen
Jack Walker
I didn't finish reading before I posted, he said you shouldn't steal from them because it belongs to the Reich, not because it belongs to the jews.
David Reyes
The speech makes literally zero sense if he means evacuation.
Eli Torres
>genetic evidence
>genetic
>genetic
>genetic
Wrong. 6th October Posen speech refutes this, also the transcript ->In the transcript of the text of the speech, page 65, paragraph 2, lines 1-2, he defines 'evacuation' as a euphemism for Ausrottung (extermination).
Evan Nelson
Furthermore see
Asher Wright
>it was dismissed as it was based on calculations of the crematorium capacities.
The 4 million was reduced to 1 in the early 90's on the plaque out front of the place. If they rectified the figure that late, why does the total count stay unaffected? Why was this not changed sooner?
Leo Wright
>If they rectified the figure that late, why does the total count stay unaffected?
Because the total count was not based on simply adding up the death numbers from the camps.
Nicholas Richardson
>Wrong. 6th October Posen speech refutes this, also the transcript
The article I posted is debunking this speech.
Easton Mitchell
Six actual "death" camps existed, and many other concentration camps contributed to killing jews. Your math of 1.9 Jews per minute, scattered over 25? 30? more? locations is totally feasible, especially since they not only documented it, they didn't kill them one at a time.
Look, I don't give a shit about jews or any groups, but Nazis were excellent bookkeepers. They basically admitted the actions. If you're going to be pissed about it, be pissed that this is somehow "more important" than other genocides in history simply because the media is controlled by the jews. Be mad about that. The facts shouldn't be argued. You should start publicizing the other genocides throughout history so the general idiotic public doesn't persist in thinking that this was the worst human atrocity ever. It wasn't. It was just the most publicized.
Easton Davis
Because the number from the Soviets is BULLSHIT and it's a number of PEOPLE not JEWS. Even today the number is PEOPLE, vast majority of which are Jews.
Is reading so hard?
Doesn't mention the transcript.
Doesn't mention 6th of October Posen Speech which refutes any claims that it's fake.
The article only plays around the meaning of the word Ausrottung, but too BAD HIMMLER GAVE US A DEFINITION HERE: ""Ich hielt mich nämlich nicht für berechtigt, die Männer auszurotten- sprich also, umzubringen oder umbringen zu lassen" - 6th October 1943, Posen Speech
Ethan Ramirez
This is true & to do this would help us succeed
Eli Young
>Doesn't mention the transcript.
Mentions the transcript.
Camden Smith
This is how himmler sounds like
Carter Scott
>Holocaust deniers don’t understand they are victim to the same backfire effect that flat earthers, Obama birthers, anti vaccers, chem trailers, and 9/11 conspiracy theorists all fall for
Carter Ward
I just looked it up and the root of ausrotten is rotten which is something like decay and it seems to have meant exterminate for a long time
Ryder Parker
John Thomas
umbringen on the other hand, used to be used to say "transfer from one place to another" which kinda makes sense when you look at the word
Evan Jackson
You pathetic little man, you’re so gullible
The Luther Bible has only one instance of the noun Ausrottung, but copious instances of the verb ausrotten. When one compares corresponding passages in the Luther Bible and English Bibles, one finds that where Luther used forms of ausrotten the English expression typically used is “cut off,” which means something like cast out or expel. Here are a couple of examples from the Luther Bible with English translation.
Wenn aber ein Männlicher nicht beschnitten wird an seiner Vorhaut, wird er ausgerottet werden aus seinem Volk, weil er meinen Bund gebrochen hat. (Das Erste Buch Mose (Genesis) 17:14, Luther Bible)
But an uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant. (Genesis17:14, New American Standard Bible)
Christopher Williams
Darum haltet meinen Sabbat, denn er soll euch heilig sein. Wer ihn entheiligt, der soll des Todes sterben. Denn wer eine Arbeit am Sabbat tut, der soll ausgerottet werden aus seinem Volk. (Das Zweite Buch Mose (Exodus) 31.14, Luther Bible)
Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. (Exodus 31:14, New American Standard Bible)
Isaiah Hall
For use of the noun Ausrottung that was contemporary and part of Himmler’s milieu*, one can refer to Mein Kampf. That book contains a number of instances in which Ausrottung obviously does not mean killing, like this:
Mein Kampf, 1944 edition: “Was aber besaß dieses Bündnis für einen Wert, wenn erst das Deutschtum der Habsburgmonarchie ausgerottet worden wäre?” (p. 142)
Ralph Mannheim’s translation: “But what value did this alliance have, once Germanism had been exterminated in the Habsburg monarchy?” (p. 129)
My translation: “What kind of value did this alliance possess once the Germandom of the Habsburg Monarchy had been eliminated (through amalgamation with the Czechs)?”
Luis Sanchez
I just found another source which confirmed the pulling by the root thing someone said earlier, I don't know which dictionary to trust now, it also sucks that they just generally say "well some time ago it meant this" and not a more precise time frame
Dominic Ward
I'd definitely agree with your translation there even in current German, that sentence is a bit different though. You got a different one?
I should really start reading Mein Kampf
Lincoln Roberts
Read this and fact check what’s written on this obviously biased website
Bentley Wright
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Camden Sullivan
Guys, stop. There is no way the speech refers to the evacuation of the Jews. This discussion is pointless.
Jace Cruz
Yea but "there is some possibility that the typed transcript could be a fraud".
No proof, nothing.
Different recording area (there is a difference when you speak indoors and outdoors in recordings), different recording device type.
But I already addressed this point but you're too stupid to understand it. This denier point was refuted by 6th October Posen Speech.
Kayden Hill
So you are telling me it is fake but even if it wasn't fake it wouldn't mean exterminating the jews? Now you made me more sceptical of ausrotten again. I'll read it though.
Gavin Wood
normie fags
Blake Williams
Post it, bitch
You gonna argue with a native german speaker who fucking has the word written in his bible?
Austin Roberts
Deniers are retarded. He just ignores the fact Himmler says that they have the right to kill Jews or that evacuation doesn't fit in the context at all.
Dominic Watson
Also show your flag rabbi
Josiah Fisher
Are the videos important? Because they aren't working for me.
Xavier Carter
what are you unsure about? to be honest most of the denier arguments presented here are trash and easily shown to be debunked
Josiah Young
Yeah, one can argue endlessly about the meaning of the word "ausrottung", or just listen to the whole segment which makes the issue clear beyond any reasonable doubt.
Charles Wright
I’m telling you I have to assume all the things jews use as evidence are fake because if they really would want the holohoax to be prove they would just let scientists examine the camps which they vehemently oppose.
The the fact of the matter is Ausrottung was used in many old texts totally differently as you can see from the before mentioned quotes this makes it more plausible that it’s a after WW2 fake
John Reyes
Nope just some white-power 1488 bullshit, just read the text
Carson Miller
Ich bin auch Deutsch, du Idiot. Aber du bist ziemlich verzögert.
en.wikipedia.org
nizkor.org
Jack Ortiz
because the count - 5.1 minimum, 6.3 tops, most likely about 5.6 - was done in the 1950's, and has not changed. the soviet propaganda plaque was never accepted in the west - that it was changed after the fall of the iron curtain is just to align with western historical research - ie the truth.
Justin Anderson
It doesn’t, but feel free to tell me mr. Philippine faggot who speaks fluent german
Blake Johnson
>verzögert
either this is krautchan cuckspeak or you are lying
Jonathan Richardson
>holocaust wasn't real
>6 million weren't enough
what is it, Sup Forums?
Caleb Martinez
I think some genocide took place the scale can be argued. Even if there were no gas chambers for arguments sake it's fucked up to put people in concentration camps.
Owen Clark
>scientists examine the camps which they vehemently oppose.
See, this is why these discussion tend to be pointless. Of course the camps were examined, and of course the deniers did not like the results, and of course they said that all the people involved in the examinations are frauds. You're like 30 years behind what's been happening.