Originally there were 18 universes. 6 were deleted.
This means that there are still 6 angels still alive, since they don't get deleted with their universe.
My theory is that at least one of the 6 hates Zeno and resents their own father, the Daishinkan, for siding with and supporting his decision to wipe out 6 of the Universes because he "threw a tantrum." Everyone is theorizing that the Grand Priest is the mastermind, manipulating Zeno, but I submit to you that both Zeno and the Daishinkan are both being manipulated by angelic rebellion from behind the scenes.
The next arc will be the surviving universes teaming up together against this new threat.
I want to happen after the ToP part 2: Winner universe vs the other 4.
Brandon Morales
>Dragon Ball Super Reported.
James Perry
>angelic rebellion how the fuck could does this work? they start fighting each other? They kill he GoD? They "disobey"? Couldn't the grand preist just kill them easily? Couldn't zeno easily just put his hand up and erase them?
>post yfw you realize that Jobku will be out of the picture and these two guys will fight each other
Isaiah Perez
>J >Audio Latino It all makes sense now.
Alexander Powell
SSJ2 Gohan during the Cell Games was the best Gohan.
Gabriel Ortiz
I did my best for the cause.
Daniel Jenkins
because Champa is a dumb fat oaf
Asher Turner
Seriously though. Gohan and Cell were so different from everyone else in Dragon Ball.
It was eerily top-tier seeing them fight.
Jaxson Kelly
Let's say the remaining fighters from U7 give Goku their energy to make the Genkidama in order to defeat the Kiero ayy. Isn't this going to handicap them really bad? I think that would create a lot of drama with Goku getting anal probed by Jiren and leaving everyone else tired for the rest of the ToP.
And related to that, would this leave the androids also energy drained or not? I know they have unlimited stamina, but isn't the GD made with life energy?
Cooper Miller
its still possible that the future zeno could have zamatsu in him
Jace Diaz
That's the most obscure thing I've ever heard. I like it.
Isaiah Rodriguez
No. Your reddit-tier villain will never return.
Jason Taylor
Dose me up with those comics
Matthew Cooper
What is a reddit-tier villain?
Colton Hughes
They should be friends like Hit is now with Goku.
Charles Rogers
someone has to stop using the word genki dama. please just use spirit bomb even the translators should do it
Kayden Edwards
Zeno is a low power level being who can't even see people when they get too fast. His power won't help if he gets ambushed. That's what his bodyguards and grand priest are for. That's the way I imagine future arcs will go.
Jaxon Long
zamasu
Brandon Barnes
it makes sense since he was never officially defeated
Jackson Sullivan
Do you think Jiren will get some actual characterization when he fights Goku or will he just forever be stoic strong guy
We all thought Hit was just gonna be le edgy nothin personnel kid guy but he ended up being a pretty well rounded character
Austin Hughes
is that special tonight? why do i get the feeling it will take 3 hours after it airs for the subs grrrr
Luis Sanchez
I'm still confused about it, new episode is airng tonight/tomorrow or next week?
Owen Morris
No.
Isaac Perry
>is that special tonight? no. it is one piece in it's place
Michael Powell
next week. One Piece special airs tonight.
Ryan Richardson
>tfw Toei loves the idea of Gohan Blanco and puts him on the next arc
Cooper Scott
Nope, his sole purpose is to make Gohan look strong.
Levi Watson
ONE MORE WEEK NO EPISODE THIS WEEK
They need more time to reuse animation.
Jaxon Russell
No it's next week. One piece is tonight
Camden Cruz
Finally someone gets it.
Zachary Hill
they have an opportunity here to create a memorable character that people want to buy merchandise of. all he needs is a motive beyond muh universe and to showcase more moves
Julian Butler
It's going to disappointing, isn't it?
Ayden Brown
Look at the date in the preview retards and then look at the date on your computers.
It's not today
C'est la prochain semaine
Kayden Sanchez
Just to be totally pedantic about stuff... You say "the original Funimation English voice cast" but the people you're talking about aren't actually the original FUNimation English voice cast. Even though the voice actors themselves were outsourced to Ocean Studios, the 1996-1998 dub of the first two "seasons" of DBZ was still a FUNimation production, and there were two adult Goku voices before Sean Schemmel (Ian Corlett and Peter Kelamis). I'm totally fine with and understand that people like to call it "the Ocean dub", but it was FUNimation that made it, and I just think it's a bit inadvertently-dismissive to call the replacement cast the "original" cast when they were anything but, even in terms of FUNimation productions. That being said, I watch the series in Japanese.
Isaiah Fisher
It can't be dissapointing, right?
Elijah Lee
wait is it today or next week goku vs jiren?
Leo Ramirez
He's "Kuririn" in the English translation of the manga. He's "Son Goku" in the English translation of the manga. The name changes you're so adamant about sticking with are exclusive to FUNimation's English dub of the anime. It's OK to be used to something and all, but let's not pretend you're not already saying a bunch of nonsensical Japanese B.S. on a daily basis without realizing it (the thing is, most English dub fans don't know this!). "Senzu" and "Roshi" and "Baba" and "Kai" are not standalone, original names; they're actual Japanese words and phrases. If you can say them, you can say anything else in the series. Trust me, when you know what you're saying, it sounds absolutely ridiculous to be saying "Baba" aloud; it literally just means "old woman". "King Kai" is just a half-assed, half-translation of "Lord/King of Worlds". "Roshi" isn't a name; it just means "[old] master". "Senzu" is just a phrase that roughly means "magic bean". You're just saying Japanese words. It's easy to dig your heels in and resist stuff, but keep in mind Dragon Ball isn't FUNimation's production; they don't get to decide who these characters are and what their names are. There's a ton of balance to be done when adapting their spellings from Japanese to our alphabet (and then with our own bonkers pronunciations), but there's a world of awesomeness to the series when you dig deeper!
Xavier Murphy
SeeIt's next week
Isaiah Ward
no new episode tonight? why not give is a 5 minute preview to hold us off or something. what do they expect me to watch
David Foster
I really really like Super, guys.
Adrian Lopez
So is this just going to be the new meme for today?
Christian Baker
Wanpiss maybe
Carter Hernandez
>6 angels still alive, since they don't get deleted with their universe No. Both "angels deactivate when their universe's GoD is killed" and "they don't get deleted even if the universe is erased" were shit made up on the spot. Don't count on that playing any role whatsoever.
Jaxon Adams
Reminder that Vegeta will defeat Jiren in 112
Alexander Morales
Vegeta vs. Frost is happening in the dub if you guys want to check that out
Mason Martinez
>Hearing people call Krillin "Kuririn" or calling Goku "Son-Kun" irks the fuuuuark out of me
Hearing people call Shenlong "Shenron" or calling Bra "Bulla" or calling God "Kami" or throwing a French accent on the name "Gero" irks fuuuuuark out of me. Remember that these feelings go both ways :). What I ask is that you step back and think about it a little more, though. Does it bug you because you're just not used to it or because you think you're being spoken down to?
Thomas Rogers
Which universe will be erased next?
Jonathan Peterson
FUCK WAN PISS!!!
Charles Taylor
U3, U4 still has the bugs, U6 and U2 are safe for now.
Nicholas Rogers
knowing he is going to get erased takes the joy from me watching that
Luke Cruz
It's just one week, you fucking autist.
Ayden Miller
>He doesn't want to see luffy beat la grande madre
Sebastian Bell
Is anyone going to watch the One Piece special tonight Sup Forums?
Xavier Miller
why did gon turn black?
Nathaniel King
Who's going to defeat this guy now that he jobbed to Hit and Maji-Kayo?
Also i had high hopes for Dyspo because he was similar in appeareance to Beerus and Champa. However, aside from the first half of his fight against donut man, he's been a disappointment.
Carson Wilson
getting tired of seeing his face
Josiah Fisher
FUNimation's English dub isn't the end-all, be-all version. I understand that many people have seen it, but even in America, the original Japanese version of the show is properly translated right there on all of FUNimation's releases, and Viz's release of the manga (which has been out and re-released since 1998, only two years after FUNimation began DBZ) is also pretty fine. It has its issues, sure, but they're nowhere near FUNimation's rewritings. And so FUNimation's English dub can't serve as the basis for anything. This isn't just "ugh dubz"; even die-hard fans will acknowledge how many things have been changed, and when it's at that level, it just can't be considered a primary source. It's not even internally consistent with itself, so beyond all of its issues from rewrites, that's just too much of a mess to even bother with. That's why, even before we get into interpretations from Buddhism and how they relate to and shape/frame Dragon Ball's hierarchy, you have to ignore that dub. You say you don't want to analyze and intended to just provide a guide; that's fine, but when you're defining "Guardian of the Earth" while acknowledging and simultaneously tossing aside its meaning in Japanese, you've already failed to serve as a factual guide. You're cherry-picking meanings and definitions that serve what you want it to mean based on your interpretation of the dub, and for all the reasons I've cited above, that's a poor path to follow. You say you just want to outline what the series tells you; particularly with gods, FUNimation's English dub isn't telling you worthwhile information. Too much is obfuscated, censored, and inadvertently glossed over. It cannot serve as a basis for this type of guide. Vegeta is a Saiyan? Dr. Gero built some robots? Goten is Goku's second child? FUNimation's dub can work fine for that type of surface-level stuff. Going any deeper beyond that, though, and it just can't.
Kevin Collins
No, the people in this thread can't even handle Super's animation and pacing, do you really think they could handle the absolute STATE of modern One Piece?
Xavier Hill
>Also i had high hopes for Dyspo I had none, because he pretended to be retarded when fighting a random space monster.
Gavin Clark
>Who's going to defeat this guy now that he jobbed to Hit and Maji-Kayo? SSJ Gohan is enough, really. He doesn't even need to go Mystic.
Nathaniel Fisher
at least one piece doesnt have any ATATATATATA
Henry Collins
>Mystic
Jackson Phillips
Our hero
Lucas Miller
>SSJ >Mystic You are literally the worst kind of person.
Eli Brown
Are there new leaks coming out today?
Gabriel Wood
ningen
Brandon Mitchell
The popular opinion? Worldwide? Hilarious apathy towards it. It's a non-issue, because no-one cares. It's an insignificant blip in the series' history. Among American fans? Depends on who you ask. Someone who just watched the show as a show and remembers it being a cool show probably wouldn't be able to say a thing about the music, the same way I don't remember the music in Thundercats from being a kid and watching it as a cool show that I knew of. (Best run-on sentence ever?) Someone who was super into it, and was into that version alone with no care/thought/comprehension to look outside beyond it? Yeah, they're gonna have massive fondness/nostalgia for it. To me? The Faulconer Productions score wasn't the first score I was exposed to, and it wasn't even the first replacement score I was exposed to. It came right after we were told we would get an uncut dub with the original music to the show (neither of which actually happened, if you define "uncut" as "not completely made-up dialog"). I have absolutely zero nostalgia for it. It represents everything that I disliked with the production of the show at the time. It's more a concept to me than an actual catalog of music, but that being said, it's still not music I would ever care for.
Jacob Rodriguez
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Xavier Young
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Thomas White
Did you quote the wrong person?
Jace Jones
No.
Evan Allen
Zeno has guards so maybe despite his erase this move he has little defense
Luke Evans
Yes you did.
Connor Baker
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Zachary Foster
No I didn't. I didn't want to tell the spic he was wrong to use SSJ because he would sperg out. So I quoted someone else.