Catholic / Christianity

Catholic / Christianity

ITT: A serious intellectual discussion on how to save Western Civilization.

Rod Dreher suggests the Benedict Option. We have to strategically retreat from the public sphere, abandoning it to its own sin and debauchery, and focus on creating our own strong, Christian communities.

This can be true for us individually, too. Every user who cares about Western Civilization needs to, first and foremost, devote himself to prayer, avoiding porn, reading the Bible, and going to church to become part of these Christian communities.

Christianity promotes race mixing and social welfare

the real answer is white sharia

Cuck cultist of a foreign alien cult wants to retreat. Bye.

Abandon the Great Commission?

No, it's not abandoning it. It is focusing on being the light of the world first.

>A serious intellectual discussion on how to save Western Civilization.

It sure as fuck isn't through christianity, the primary growth market for which is, and has been for a very long time, the third world. You're not going to get any pro-white communities with a christian philosophy you fucking retard. It actively embraces the poor and downtrodden and you're encouraged to follow Jesus and go recruit them.

The only actual separationists christianity has are people like the amish, and there you get inbreeding issues because they're too small and clustered. The amish are also of course powerless once the US becomes truly blacked and will be steamrolled by the mongrel hordes that use technology.

>The only actual separationists christianity has are people like the amish
That hasn't historically been true, though. In the past the monks and later the Anabaptists have been separatists. Increasingly in our society Christians are being labelled backwards, intolerant, ignorant, etc, and they are FORCED in many ways to become separatists. Unless, that is, they compromise on their beliefs.
The Benedict Option says we shouldn't compromise. We need to embrace our outcast status and focus on strengthening our faith, our communities, our knowledge of the faith, etc.

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He never mentioned "pro-white". Stop projecting. Western Civilisation is Christian Civilisation whether you like it or not.

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>Anabaptists

These would be the retards who were also focused on doomsday being right around the corner and who tried overthrowing rightful rule even when compromises were made to keep them around. They were a violent anarchist cult.

These are the people you want to emulate.

>He never mentioned "pro-white". Stop projecting. Western Civilisation is Christian Civilisation whether you like it or not.

Western Civilization is OLDER than Christianity you fucking moron. The best parts of Christian philosophy comes directly from the greeks and is a re-interpretation and secularization of Christian doctrines. Without that underlying civilization present Christianity would just be another group of savages like muslims or hindus even to the modern day.

It was through the philosophical heritage that predates Christianity we found a way to create the civilization that other cultures could not. It's a fundamentally European cultural heritage, our private blend of influences. You are blind if you don't see that other peoples and cultures do not mix with this. They can't even integrate when it's the predominant culture.

Christianity alone is not western civilization and it's powerless to stop the influence and corruption of it.

Quick run down:

Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek; later, the Levites would receive tithes from their countrymen. Since Aaron was in Abraham's loins then, it was as if the Aaronic priesthood were paying tithes to Melchizedek. (Heb. 7:4-10)

The one who blesses is always greater than the one being blessed. Thus, Melchizedek was greater than Abraham. As Levi was yet in the loins of Abraham, it follows that Melchizedek is greater than Levi. (Heb. 7:7-10)

If the priesthood of Aaron were effective, God would not have called a new priest in a different order in Psalm 110. (Heb. 7:11)

The basis of the Aaronic priesthood was ancestry; the basis of the priesthood of Melchizedek is everlasting life. That is, there is no interruption due to a priest's death. (Heb. 7:8,15-16,23-25)

The priesthood of Melchizedek is more effective because it required a single sacrifice once and for all (Jesus), while the Levitical priesthood made endless sacrifices. (Heb. 7:27)

The Aaronic priests serve (or, rather, served) in an earthly copy and shadow of the heavenly Temple, which Jesus serves in. (Heb. 8:5)

Tl;dr bogdanoffs bow to Melchizedek.

May His Light be reflected by the sword in my hand. I abandon not the good works of my forebears.

The only way to save the west is to make it Christian (not papist)

but Catholics are Christian. The West won't believe an illogical and incoherent form of Christianity -- i.e. Protestantism. That is why so many Protestants in America are losing their faith. They know nothing except illogical, dumbed down Christianity (Protestantism) and only know lies about Catholicism.

The west didn't become exceptional under catholicism. Only after the yoke of the church was thrown off did secular rule win out and ultimately technology and education did the rest.

>the absolute state of swedish education
oh my

Not an argument.

>implying your post deserved an argument.

The only way to save western civilization is to exterminate the bitch tits soyboy christcucks like Dreher who are killing it. And then exterminate a few billion more people along with them. I propose the use of biological warfare.

I think everyone realizes why you can't try to defend western exceptionalism under catholic rule. Hell, just try defending catholic exceptionalism today. Are the countries doing the best catholic countries? Nope.

Just because Catholic countries are suffering under the strain of Satanic Marxism, that doesn't mean Catholicism isn't Christ's true Church. Jesus said we would suffer in this world. The Catholic path isn't necessarily the path of worldly prosperity and comfort, but it is the path of truth.

>that doesn't mean Catholicism isn't Christ's true Church

Talk whatever bullshit you want, the reality is Catholics have fuck all to do with the success of the west and you're increasingly a bunch of shitskins.

You're not saving the west, you're becoming the third world.

Oh btw, given the demographics shift you'll inevitably have a blacked pope soon enough. Being loyal to the church you'll be there to celebrate, I'm sure.

Right, so you're one of those people who has let bitterness and racism turn him against Christ's true church. One has to be careful not to be, at one extreme, an SJW cuck, or, at the other extreme, a racist imbecile. But to realize that Western Civilization is beautiful and should be saved from the Muslim hoards, but also that everyone is made in God's image.

It matters not whether you be protestant or catholic. Either one is fine. The whole point of this is to find unification through Christian strength and solidarity, and to do this outside of the mainstream. It's about Christianity, not denomination. You know the sectarian troubles Europe has been through.

>everyone is made in God's image
This is the type of soy that will need to be eliminated in order to save civilization. The future is white, and your half-ape brothers in Christ have no place in it. After we kill you christfags and your shitskin pets, we can finally have galactic imperium.

IC XC
NI KA

All Catholic countries are third world shit holes. This is a fact. Kill yourself so you can save us the effort, faggot.

Caesar, as he eats his lobster in his palace, "I dare say. All of these Christians are peasants and slaves. And, what's more, they FOLLOW a peasant who was crucified."

Yes, Christians have always been the subhuman detritus of society.

Jesus' Olivet Discourse about the last days is literally about you

>Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then many will fall away[a] and betray one another and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

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>who has let bitterness and racism turn him against Christ's true church

You just made my point for me. Christians can't protect the west at all. You'll bend over to sell it out.

> But to realize that Western Civilization is beautiful and should be saved from the Muslim
> everyone is made in God's image

This is fucking hilarious. So you're bigoted against muslims and that's okay because in your mind it's not racism. But to african barbarism you have absolutely nothing to say, and they're your brothers and you'll welcome them into our countries.

Fuck you, you fifth columnist enabler. Enjoy your black pope.

>love these subhuman niggers, goyim, they are your brothers in christ
Yes, Jesus was a nigger-loving cuckold. We all know this. We will stamp out your shitskin religion with biological weapons in the near future.

Here's the history of your side already prophesied:

>And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9 And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven[b] and consumed them, 10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

>You just made my point for me. Christians can't protect the west at all. You'll bend over to sell it out.
Exactly. And then when civilization is destroyed and niggers are raping their grandchildren, they will blame it on people abandoning Christ and ignore their own blame in the disaster. Christfags are the worst

Why do you guys worship a jew though?

Yes, it's not the fact that niggers are literally inhuman animals. That's just a satanic deception kek.

One should abandon the metropolis and retreat to the hinterland, to the rural areas. Learning first and foremost to TOIL AND TILT THE LAND. Here in Greece with the economic crisis a lot of people abandoned the cities and went to the countryside, I am on of them and I tell you there is no degeneracy here,Just simple God-fearing folk that keep to themselves, and don't have the "metropolitan" cleverness and desire for immediate profit at every turn.

People need to return back to the countryside, take back Christianity again and let the whole other rotten structure collapse, as long as people keep the fire of faith alive, nothing can hurt them.

K. When you grow out of your 14 year old edge lord racist atheist phase, Catholicism will be waiting.

And while you're larping as monks in the woods, we will be developing biological weapons and drones that will kill you in the future eugenics war.

would you pretty please open up to muslims who want to be like you while maintaining their faith?

we got jesus

>We have to strategically retreat from the public sphere, abandoning it to its own sin and debauchery, and focus on creating our own strong, Christian communities.

Did the forces who destroyed the Churches position hide away in communes and handball action off to some unspecified future generation?

Do you really think you can hide children away from public sphere?

The Church has sat on its arse sin the treaty with Mussolini and now it has paid the price.

Your church is both internally and externally inconsistent, so I would never be retarded enough to join it anyway.

yes, and you're undoubtedly very well read in theology and canon law. the denial of the Sup Forums poster who is all "durr niggers ur gay!!" has shaken me to my core.

Someone link me up a free epub of this book.

I want to read it

>The Benecuck "option"

Truly inane. Do you really think some future repressive anti-Christian state will let a bunch of people who seem like weird cultists live peacefully outside the control of its regime?

>and you're undoubtedly very well read in theology and canon law.
I am, actually. I was actually a christfag like you at one point. Still have denzinger on my bookshelf right now.

>used to be a Christian
>own a standard reference books
>this makes one informed
k.
>I used to live in America!
>I had a book about politics
>therefore, I'm informed about the intricacies of Constitutional law
k.

Then I decided I prefer civilization over the stone age nigger hell hole that Catholicism guarantees.

Once Sweden rejected The Catholic church, went to Lutheranism and later became secularised, it became a cucked shithole.

You don't need to have the entire thing memorized to find contradictions.

Pretty great non sequitur you've got there.

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Hey, Swedecuck, take notes from Poland and join the fucking real Catholic church, since Tyrone will breed out your entire civilisation if you continue being a secularised basket case.

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Your timeline is a little fucked there. When Sweden abandoned Catholicism it became a regional power.

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There was no non sequitur, brainlet.

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Now look up the Pew Center numbers on how many Protestants believe in faith alone vs faith and works.

WN up in the thread holy shit

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Yes, your bringing up of memorization out of the blue had nothing to do with anything I said. It was a non sequitur, my 14 year old edge lord friend.

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then you should start by killing yourself.

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They wouldn't have been able to be a so called "regional power" without Luther, genius. He's the reason for all the cuckolding they're enduring, today.

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Why from Poland? Why not from Congo or Brazil? Both are more Catholic than Poland. Or how about from the Catholic African colony formerly known as Ireland? Or Arab-negro mongrel Italy?

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>focus on being the light by retreating into a cave

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>Catholics
>honesty
Pick only one

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Luther and The JewK are the biggest cucks and shabbos goys. No shit a fish and chip faggot would denounce the real church, how's that worked for you anyway? I'm sure Islam is doing wonders for your society.

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>Yes, your bringing up of memorization out of the blue had nothing to do with anything I said.
It wasn't out of the blue. It was a direct response to your previous post.

>It was a non sequitur,
No, you're just too low IQ to understand what a non sequitur is.

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Catholics. They are men of God.

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Protestantism is the root of progressivism.
All progressivist thought can be traced through cromwell straight to the schizm.

The catholic church might be cucked now, but the current pope is only trying to emulate what protestants have been doing for hundreds of years.