How do we go back?

how do we go back?

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Reduce cost of living, stop relying on foreign labour, promote the value of the psychological effect of our surroundings, encourage wives to stay at home and look after the house/develop some investment into their real-estate, kill all globalists, reduce or completely half immigration inflating the population further, hang the traitors fucking city dwellers over with segregating zoning laws, reduce legislation preventing new companies from popping up/building new and worthwhile buildings, promote trades including masonry.

also promote a cultural artistic identity and reward people putting down buildings that not only fit it but fit the environment they're put in.

We dont. We make our own future. Not our past.

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collapse of civilization and then a rebirth in about a thousand years

I think making it illegal for immigrants to have children and to marry could go a long way.
That way they only come to Europe to work and after they made enough money they would go back again.

we already do

>reduce or completely half immigration
Completely falt + 10s of millions deported is necessary.

We need to revolt against modernity.

We need to reverse industrialization.

what's wrong user, don't you like sleak, modern architecture? :)

Why does anyone design buildings like those? I cant imagine literally anyone looking at them and thinking wow that looks nice

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that's still money leaving our economies

pic was build in 2016

looks lovely desu
I wish I could afford it

there is nothing wrong with industry. Problem is when human dwellings start to look like factory

How is that even bad? it would of looked more like the one on the right when it was built

Zombie apocalypse.

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don't worry the past is chasing the future
in 80s-90s we look for the future
but now we look back to the past because the future look scary
and it come from the same cause , the complex progress of capitalism which longer than one human can be notice on his/her life time

>I wanted to post a positive example

>How is that even bad
it isn't. He posts improvments

our problem is not that we don't have enough money, it's that white people don't want to do dirty work so that's why we hire immigrants.
Stopping them from assimilating into our culture is the only way we can still benefit from cheap immigrant labor.

Also they would still have to spend a chunk of the money they make on goods & living in our countries.

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get in there and get some hope

btw, This is in croatia

>our problem is not that we don't have enough money, it's that white people don't want to do dirty work so that's why we hire immigrants.
stop talking out of your ass, people are prepared to do all sorts of work IF THE WAGE IS PROPORTIONATE
if nobody wants to be a garbage man, you pay garbage men more money, you dont import foreigners to replace them instead.

If we have enough money, why would we need such cheap labour?

The construction industry is full of penny pinching jews these days

Do you suddenly expect them to pony up the cash for fancy sculpted beaux arts style facades?

Those that abandon modernity will be the only ones that survive when the great war of our time happens.

He typed 'would of', so it doesn't surprise me he's that dumb.

Oh my god.

WHY!?

there's nothing wrong with taking advantage of modern materials and technology, you just have to direct it to a good purpose.
American art deco is a great example of a more modern style that is still aesthetically pleasing.

That's how a free market works. People want to buy things cheap.

I don't want to. Commie design is so utilitarian and comfy, user I love it.

I guess you're too young and too stupid to understand that the criteria for what fits in and what doesn't are completely subjective.

the free market is also supposed to pay appropriately according to supply and demand, if there arent enough people working a certain field, pay those people more. Dont import people from the third world.

It is impossible to "go back."

It is never possible to recreate the past. It is never possible to go back to some former state in history, to make things as they were.

All you can ever hope to do is revive the spirit and ideas of a previous age to guide you into the future.

>art deco
Please never reproduce

And how would you enforce such legislation, Einstein?

architectural styles are not subjective. theyre pretty distinctly catalogued.

Industry is one thing but industrialization was a cultural change, where people live's are secondary to industrial development.

He almost gets it but he makes one crucial mistake. He says we have to go back and that implies linear progress. The truth is there is no such thing the only progress we have is the progress around the wheel. Its not liner its circular. When taken in that context we don't have to go back but rather we just have to continue to move forward, well around, and we will arrive back where we started. Well maybe our kids, or their kids, will. It may be to late for us.

>when your graphics card is overheating

please never do something that needs economic literacy in the future
fucking retard

no u

(((architecture)))
disgusting abominations these are and nothing more

>fuck supply and demand
alright

nice thief

Is that in Germany?

It looks like the type of house one sees in North America, but I did not know Germany would build something similar.

:)

(to 3 story apartment complexes?)

Companies will never have enough money, it's economically bad for them to not import cheap labor.

The thing is, even if you would earn the same amount of money for collecting garbage and doing an office job, almost everyone would still choose the office job.
It's just not realistic that you would pay a garbage men more than a dude in an office.

"We have enough money" is probably the wrong thing to say on my part. I rather meant, that white people in our countries have such a high standard, since they've been brought up in countries where they have everything.
Because of that they would never consider (or even imagine) working as a garbage men.
Immigrants who are used to way worse conditions have no problem with doing a job like that.

Like I said, the critical thing is, that we need to stop immigrants getting used to our high standards so that they can fuck off back to their country once they aren't useful for labor anymore.

I want to strangle person who designed this and shoot one who approved it

I think that the sheer ugliness of modern art, of modern people, and of the modern world can all be chalked up to the fact that the modern West has no common identity and no common purpose. What is America here for? Well, it's to defeat communists, or spread democracy, or defeat terrorism, of course! They create a new purpose for the country every decade because the actual nation is a hollow, empty shell of its former self.

You won't get nice architecture and lovely cities again unless people care enough to do it.

>said user while posting animu girls

>subjective
I can tell that you don't fit in here

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That's what a free market is, numbnuts. Free markets mean free borders, otherwise it's not a free market. You cretins are really too dumb to follow through with your own arguments.

Who are those ugly sticks supposed to be doing?

Blocking the view?

You know, that design in a vacuum isn’t horrible. It’s that it’s clearly gotten shoved in a neighborhood that doesn’t need it. Place it sequestered away, like in the center of a field or open and in the center of a big lot, its striking uniqueness isn’t clashing. Like the Sydney Opera house. It works because it’s out on its own pier not clashing with the world. This shit is just tacky and awkward.

take this shit out of MY city

The Viennese have built Faux-Baroque/Rokoko buildings to complement the historical city-centre.
That's a favourable approach.

That's not what you called for. You talked about building things that fit in, which is completely subjective.

That might work in some cases. In others, companies just import material from abroad. Only regulated economies like communism can work how you want it to.

>it's that white people don't want to do dirty work so that's why we hire immigrants.

You are literally regurgitating banker talking points.

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The west needs an arts and crafts movement revival
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Fuck Daniel Libeskind

my heart is bleeding
you are a sadist user

I prefer the lighter trees. It reminds me of Maine.

Fuck you

That's not an animu girl you cocksucking queer. That's obviously a western style. Try to keep up.

You're right, I'm a /biz/raeli immigrant. Just bored and looking for politically illiterate edgelords to argue with.

>every job except banker is dirty work.

Are you working as a garbage man?

I don't think thats true either, I've known plenty of white garbagemen, people working at sewage plants, farmers, etc. People aren't afraid to get their hands dirty if the wage is appropriate. Office jobs traditionally paid more because it required a higher education. But with everyone getting such an education the bar for entry isn't nearly as hard to reach. With a shortage in lower labour supply and demand should demand office jobs get a lower wage while low labour should get a higher age. Or alternatively, stop allowing people with a low education to stay on wellfare rather than working such jobs. Though one should consider how attractive illegal activities become at that point.

Alright maybe I didn't phrase myself well then, I mean one should abide to market forces and indicators. I don't believe in a world without borders.

it ought to fit with the architectural styles of the surroundings, which means it should conform to some degree. which does allow for a degree of subjectivity, sure. But that can be said about anything.

Why would you need to be a commie to make a distinction between materials and persons?

It looks like a giant arrow is shooting through that building

Beijing's hutong restoration
China is renovating the huntong oldtown by demolishing modern parts and rebuiulding the old parts

I didn't even get started

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Because it takes a regime to 'manage' people. It's not just about importing workers from the third world; you also have to keep yours inside to prevent for instance a brain drain.

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Damn road signs do make places ugly, eh.

Why would they ruin such beautiful architecture?

pis is a room which is currently being rebuild in the Dresden Residenzschloss (palace)

because old world architecture stands for colonialism, racism and imperialism :)

*pic

I agree that city planning should take into consideration the history and identity of a place and aim for the harmonious integration of new structures, but again, what is harmony and what isn't? Leave it to market forces to decide and you get what we have, leave it to politicians or locals and you might get the same. Nobody knows, unless we install a dictator who happens to share your exact view on the matter.

indeed what better way to subvert and degrade a people than to make all their public architecture cold and alien

The bottom will look beautiful and elegant compared to the scene 100 years from now

1) half of it is designed to look "cool" for no useful reason (which is fine but could be better)

2) a other half of it is consciously designed in order to "subvert" wider culture.

(1) deserves polite ignoring, (2) deserves, ahem, maybe not gas, but something serious.

Sounds good but completely unrealistic.
Your solution would damage the economy of our countries, which is why such a reform will never be implemented.
Social reforms are more likely to be pushed through, because you can argue on a moral level, but economically bad decisions are near impossible to push through.

I would like to have only-white-countries too, but with the state of European economy we rely on foreign workers.

A more realistic solution would be to define a immigrant percentage threshold (maybe like 5% of the population) and make sure that they can only stay for a maximum of 5 years to prevent them from assimilating into our culture.
Also prevent them from marrying and having children like I already said.

nice digits btw

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that's fair, we have the issues here that non-appointed officials are allowed to just put down whatever the hell they like, any input from locals is ignored.
But that doesn't help when you get massive companies with no real connection to the area or interest to build something thematically appropriate just chucking down a massive modernist office complex purposefully designed to be town down in 60 years.

I just want some guidelines and rulesets, maybe im just lashing out emotionally in that sense but it just breaks my heart to see historic cities utterly ruined by these modernist designs, and the psychological well being of the inhabitants with it.

I would shit myself if I to get into this room.

Is it an unpleasant truth that French architecture is the GOAT? I've never seen anything quite like it. Versailles, Palace of Fontainebleau, Luxembourg Palace, Palace of Tau, Tuileries Palace, need I go on? I hate the French, but nothing comes close.

That is the worst one yet. Holy shit.

What is this thing?

It's an improvement

toilet is the same room....
makes you shit faster

maybe it was a mistake to build an economy on foreigners then.

Honestly a 5% immigrant threshold sounds good but you have to remember that you could put 5% of the population in a single city, effectively making it a foreign colony. You have to limit the amount of foreigners in a region if you want to stop that sort of thing from happening.
Honestly im not opposed to immgiration in concept, but not for the lower class. They should be specialists we have a shortage of. Many lowly educated people who lack the capacity to learn would be doing these jobs if the pay was proportional to the demand/labour. And many do in spite of that not being the case. Driving down living costs would be a top priority for me and that ties largely into the inflated real-estate values and associated rent.
That is something you can work on