/Russiagate General/

Trump isn’t an idiot — the cover-up is likely covering up serious wrongdoing.

>Many of the Russian government’s political interventions abroad are clumsy and inept (see the anti-Macron stuff from the 2017 French presidential election and the bulk of the “troll farm” stuff). But the WikiLeaks email drops of 2016 were very well-executed and well-timed to step on two major stories: first the Democratic National Convention and later the Access Hollywood tape. Perhaps the Russians got lucky (twice) or they executed well because they were helped by an expert American political operative.

>As it happens, the expertise of Trump’s campaign chair, Paul Manafort, is in American and foreign electioneering. Manafort helped Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush win presidential elections before he moved into lobbying and took his political skills abroad. He spent a decade dispensing expert political advice (for a steep price) to a Russian proxy party in Ukraine. So it’s not like the Russians would have no idea whom to ask, or that nobody on the Trump team was comfortable, broadly speaking, with the idea of working with Moscow.

>We also know specifically, due to Donald Trump Jr.’s infamous “if it’s what you say I love it” email, that not only Manafort but also Trump’s son and his son-in-law were eager to collaborate with the Russian government on the 2016 election.

>Trump spent more than a year on the campaign trail consistently praising Vladimir Putin and defending him from critics, incurring political risks with no obvious upside for himself.

>During the transition, Trump’s national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was very eager to conduct talks with Moscow about a warming of relations. Jared Kushner was trying to create some kind of secure backchannel line of communication to Moscow that would be impenetrable by American intelligence.

>Trump took the exceptionally risky move of firing FBI Director James Comey. After that backfired, he took repeated stabs at leaning on Attorney General Jeff Sessions and/or Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to resign, which would give him more direct control over Mueller.

>Trump’s allies on the House Intelligence Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee have been trying to help him with various attacks on the FBI, the Justice Department, and the whole idea of an inquiry rather than by constructing some plausible alternative narrative that would explain all the weird shit referenced above.

All the points above do not constitute an argument you’d present to secure a jury conviction, but it’s probable cause for a rigorous investigation. It all explains Mueller’s apparent strategy of bringing legal pressure to bear on as many Trumpworld figures as possible. It’s a sound strategy for generating the revelation of some dark secrets.

Thoughts?

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>According to the Washington Post

This is it comrades, Blumpf is finally going to impleaked this time

We have proof the Clinton Campaign colluded with Russia and took hundreds of millions of dollars from other hostile countries. Kys shill.

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Hi Slovenianbro. Are you affiliated with the Macedonians who also interfered in our election? Do you think you have some kind of privilege to decide the course of politics in a foreign nation? When did you decide that your personal agenda, assuming you are acting independently and are not paid, was more important than the sovereignty of an independent foreign nation?

So here is my thought, fuck off. Try making your country less of a shithole. Stop wasting your time on slide threads.

look buddy we allow Israel to do it it is not some poor Slovene faggots problems he has to eat bread listen to what your outgoing NSA chief had to say, his hands are tied the Executive Trump never have gave power to retaliate nor will he apply pressure to bloody Russian nose this is your fault you live in a weak country that gets fucked by Putin bydlo
maybe Hillary would have gaddafied Putin and you could hold your head high at the world cup but you can't

LOL: the thread

When this thing hits about 250 I can bake the next /rg/ OP

The English is bad, the logic is incoherent, and while it's clear the poster is trying to push a side, it is not at all clear what side that may be.

Bot or foreigner? You decide.

First, fuck off, shill.

Second,
> see the anti-Macron stuff from the 2017 French presidential election
Who the hell would leak stuff a day before the elections if he wanted to influence it? Especially if that stuff was a nothingburger. You do way before the elections. Like with DNC and Podesta emails.

>the bulk of the “troll farm” stuf
Show me proof that those people had any links to the government rather they worked for some astroturfing company. That company in Petersburg btw was known since probably at least 2013. Western MSM talked about them way before the elections. The company was even shown on Russian TV (RBC) probably 4-5 years ago. Everybody knew about it, and everybody could be hired there. Doesn't sound like something a government would do for any important projects.

>But the WikiLeaks email drops of 2016 were very well-executed and well-timed to step on two major stories
This is where I believe Russian gov is involved, but you won't find real evidence. It's practically impossible to prove it was Kremlin rather than 400 lbs genius due to how hacking works, especially people who know what they are doing. It also shouldn't really matter who is the messenger, as long as the content is authentic (and it is; much of it can be mathematically verified, people resigned).

>to a Russian proxy party in Ukraine
This "Russian proxy" signed up for Eastern partnership program around 2012 and took a western path until Putin convinced it in 2013 that it will be economic suicide. What a great Russian proxy.

Too lazy to read and comment the other garbage.

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>This "Russian proxy
i mean you pidaroshkas killed yanukoviyich son in a lake

you are a faggot and so is putin you cannot convince russian chechens to behave you can look for your proof up my ass shlomo

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faggot though America was safe for blasted white people at night who would have given him that ideA?

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>slovenia shill still can't close his anus
Seriously. change your fucking VPN. You've exhausted any and all credibility you think you ever had.

Kek! Over an hour and you have 13 replies. You will never win here, you stupid kikes. Sage

>you make such a Talmudic argument

Well said.
>> see the anti-Macron stuff from the 2017 French presidential election
>Who the hell would leak stuff a day before the elections if he wanted to influence it? Especially if that stuff was a nothingburger. You do way before the elections. Like with DNC and Podesta emails.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thought it was suspicious as fuck that the release was hours before a mandatory media blackout and there's a total lack of evidence from any party except the Macron campaign and Marshall Plan-tier think tanks.

>Show me proof
The only reason Sup Forums exists is to deliver to Kremlin operatives sufficient pwoofs to overcome their massive disinformation and propaganda campaigns.
/sarc

> It's practically impossible to prove it was Kremlin
Kremlin is inept, Russians clueless, evidence left everywhere.

>It also shouldn't really matter who is the messenger
Hey, that's exactly what the Kremlin says about KremlinLeaks. Weird right?

And when the "rigorous investigation" that conveniently just happens to last all 8 years of Trump's time in office... and finds nothing.

What will you do then? Admit you were wrong?

The left can't meme.

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Fake CT meme. Seth Rich was not meeting the FBI at 4am after leaving a bar where he'd been drinking all night. He was walking through a seedy neighborhood known for drugs, prostitutes and muggings.

>last all 8 years of Trump's time in
...federal penitentiary

If evidence were left everywhere, why is it taking so long for Mueller to prosecute Trump for the alleged crime of "speaking to Russians"

>hack the election
so putin hacked my ballot? this conspiracy theory is old and boring, dems just trying to cover up for obongos fisa abuse. daily reminder to report and sage spam threads