>Jesus was Jewish
Yes he was. God sent his only begotten son to redpill the Jews from behind enemy lines.
>But he's not Aryan!
It's foolish to hate someone just because they were born a certain color. However that does not mean, that I will allow others to destroy God's of white creation.
Just because I don't hate vipers, doesn't mean I'd allow them to bite my kids.
>We're European pagans though. It's our spiritual roots!
God himself designed Christianity for eueope. It was his Providence that Christianity spread to Europe and strengthen it. Nazi Germany itself was 95% Christian and Nazis seeked to drive out atheism and larpers.
Any modern pagan doesn't actually believe in his God's. He's an atheist pretending to be a pagan out of spite of Christ.
>But Christianity made Europe weak!
A corrupted contemporary version of it did, starting in the 20th century. The humorous detail is though, that as Europe has grown more pagan and atheist, it has become more liberal and multicultural. Sweden and germany for example, two very atheist nation's are the most cucked objectively. On the other hand, Hungary and Poland, are not as cucked and are very Christian. Secondly, when Christianity was at it's peak in the middle ages, it drove out Moore's from Spain, mowed down millions of Muslims in the east, protected it's southern and balkan borders, and was the chief cause of such beautiful art and history that Europe derives from. All of eyropes most beautiful architecture, art, music and culture derives from Christ's inspiration.
What did pagans do? Worship trees and worship a god who drank semen?
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This is the final appeal to larping pagans. Come to know the truth. Be my brothers.
>But Christianity means loving the neighbor and letting everyone settle together.
"No!" Why does loving someone imply that you must allow your entire race to be enslaved, destroyed and culled? It's a terrible argument and a cornerstone to brainlet philosophy. If the brown people want to destroy and replace us they themselves are anti-white, which makes them anti-christian.
The only group we are allowed to deliberately hate is Jews. Not because they were born Jews. But because they killed Jesus, because they seem to destroy God's racial creation, and seek to serve Satan himself, which Jesus speaks extensively about in the Gospel.
What sort of a christian are you, OP?
Just a true Christian. Won't label myself some bogus sect.
Protestant larper, then, gotcha.
>redpill the Jews from behind enemy lines
So you care about the jews?
>It's foolish to hate someone just because they were born a certain color.
Maybe you should get the fuck out of here. If you can't see the problem of having a "savior" coming from a race known for it's subversive and satanic practices, maybe you shouldn't teach others about not inviting snakes in.
>God himself designed Christianity for eueope.
He also designed most of Africa and Latin America for christianity. Are they our brothers?
>Nazi Germany itself was 95% Christian and Nazis seeked to drive out atheism and larpers.
Some 90% of recruits of some SS divisions left the church before enlisting. Many party members were non-christians like Bormann, Himmler, Rosenberg, Darré, Hess, Ley and so on. It was such a common practice for NSDAP members to leave church, they even came with a term for it: en.wikipedia.org
And they did give some pratical advice to pagan revivalists, the Volkish pagan party having merged with the NSDAP by 1925, not to go too out there, while they persecuted... christians. Closed religions institutions and publications, banned political christianity and executed thousands of priests.
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>corrupted contemporary version of it made europe weak, and only after the 20th century
Justify pic related.
Christianity is only connected to Europe because Constantine tried it as a last ditch effort to jury rig together his falling apart, stagnating empire. Culturally, it's a Middle Eastern religion that doesn't tell Whites Europeans or Slavs about what their ancestors were like. The OT is a Jewish history lesson, with liberal borrowings from Mesopotamian Pagans, and the NT is the sectarian argument over it involving an Essene Rabbi from the Dead Sea region.
It has nothing to do with Whites at this point.
Wait, Satan is Biblical figure, so I don't understand how one can criticise Jesus for being Satanic, when Biblically He is the antithesis of Satan.
It's like calling Spiderman Venom
>weden and germany for example, two very atheist nation's are the most cucked objectively. On the other hand, Hungary and Poland, are not as cucked and are very Christian.
Ireland and Greece are very christian. Still cucked. Czech Republic is the most non-christian country in Europe - no "refugees"...
>secondly, when Christianity was at it's peak in the middle ages, it drove out Moore's from Spain
Because we needed "Christianity" to defend ourselves? The Romans never had trouble dealing with arab tribes... The Crusaders sacked Constantinople, the biggest christian city in the world, after having SKIPPED turkish anatolia for some meaningless jewish land in the middle-east, enabling for the Ottoman Empire to invade all the way to Germany, while they were busy killing each other in "Religious Wars", some of which killed almost half of the german population.
>and was the chief cause of such beautiful art and history that Europe derives from
The adoption of christianity came simultaneously to the drop in many artistic and architectural techniques from the Roman times up to the RENAISSANCE (the "rebirth" of PAGAN european ideals)
>What did pagans do? Worship trees and worship a god who drank semen?
No, stop believing the lies of some Jewish psychoanalist. You spreading this makes you a liar. The "Odin followers" executed homossexuals by drowning them in mud.
>"Traitors and deserters are hanged on trees; the coward, the unwarlike, the man stained with abominable vices, is plunged into the mire of the morass, with a hurdle put over him. This distinction in punishment means that crime, they think, ought, in being punished, to be exposed, while infamy ought to be buried out of sight." (Tacitus "Germania", chapter XII)
You're delusional
>This is the final appeal to larping pagans
Here is my last appeal to you, stop putting "christian identity" above a RACIAL one, and "political christianity" above National Socialism. Stop shitting our board by parroting "church historicity". All we wanted was for it to be so easy as the churches being our greatest allies, but they are NOT. Take this redpill above your "christian identity" feelings. None of the churches are our allies, especially when they are entirely co-opted by them and have the majority of their followers being non-whites - they use their massive resources to... directly import migrants and host "hallelujah" singouts to welcome them.
Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP adopted "positive christianity", because they deemed the christianity of the main churches as "negative", for a reason. While it was a psy-op led by open-pagan Alfred Rosenberg, designed to replace christianity indeed, here are the words of the "Spiritual Father" of the Third Reich:
>"In the case of the struggling young Christianity, for example, the Jews, quick as a flash, began hanging onto its coattails. Consider Paul, properly called Schaul, who was a rabbinical student. As a Jew, Paul certainly knew that of all the peoples of the world the Jews, first and foremost, needed their souls saved. 'Go not ... to the Gentiles, ... But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel,' demanded Christ (Matthew 10:56). Paul ignored it. He went to the Greeks and the Romans and brought them his 'Christianity.' A 'Christianity' with which the Roman Empire became unhinged. 'All men are equal! Brotherhood! Pacifism! No more privileges!'… And the Jew triumphed." - Dietrich Eckart, "Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin, a conversation between Hitler and Me" (Eckart was honored in the second book of Mein Kampf)
Here the words of Hitler's closest aide:
>"National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable" - Martin, Bormann, 1941.
Stop being a KEK for the church.
>it's another "pagans underline orthodoxy and catholicismbas the same thing" thread
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>Nazi Germany itself was 95% Christian and Nazis seeked to drive out atheism and larpers.
Haha, what the fuck, Nazis were New Agers - what the fuck do you think the Swastika and the Black Sun mean?
And protestants...
Tell me again, how the churches are our "greatest allies"...
Lets omit from the fact that Mount Athos monks gave Hitler title of Defender of Athos, as well as Orthodox Metropolitans writing to Hitler wishing him victory against the Soviet Regime
I, too, can post pictures of pagans being cucks.
Lets just ommit the Executed and "martyrs of the Third Reich"
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>catholic catholic catholic catholic catholic
>half of them are protestants
>whole category of Jehovah witnesses
>Collaborators that live off the populace roll over for the invadors
what a twist, Putin gave them some money and got to sit in the defenders throne in 2016, so i guess he's as BASTE as Hitler?
>le funny because Catholics
you're basically shitposting
Explain estonia, least religious country in Europe and probably the world, yet we aren't cucked
How great, when was I defending anyone but the Orthodox in this situation?
The official statement from the orthodox church is that every nation has a right to self determination. That is what Codreanu took the initiative for.
>it was not "true christianity™"!!!
Again, the orthodox church also has a determination that their patriarch has to be born in Turkey, due to all the centuries of cowering from muslims. Mount Athos, you spoke of, asked for "protection" of the Ottomans, because they were being ruled by Catholic crusaders.
The orthodox church is also not our greatest ally...
>we aren't cucked
>being in russian sphere of influence
>Again, the orthodox church also has a determination that their patriarch has to be born in Turkey
Obscenely false.
Of Codreanu, some, vaguely related, words by Hitler:
"Our charmers and wizards, however, distinguish between respectable and not-so-respectable, between settled and newly immigrated, between western and eastern Jews, and if worse comes to worst, they shrug their shoulders and mutter, 'Every country has the Jews itdeserves.' It means nothing to them that it was a Jew who coined this fine-sounding phrase. Nor that in the case of Germany, considering the quality of the Jews we have 'deserved,' it becomes a resounding slap in the face."
Not everyone of the "proto-fascist" movements that sprung up in europe were "admired" by the NSDAP...
Oh no Hitler disagreed with a particular stance of Codreanu. Better disregard Codreanu altogether.
And Codreanu's quote is in no way incorrect
We aren't cucked even though we are the least religious country. Lots of people are against immigration because 1) no place for them
2) they don't bother to integrate
3) post USSR state, and wouldn't be fair to old people as the immigrants are getting everything free ( keep in mind food and heating are super expensive)
Also it's generally accepted if your gay and shit but people are more reserved and quiet so it's not as apparent
DESU, I know multiple extremely good Jewish converts. Converted jews' intelligence, combined with their abandonment of their cliquish ideology makes them great Christians
Slavs and balts are genetically socially conservative. Plus Estonia is extremely isolated due to climates. Your country suffers from other problems such as alcoholism and suicide rates.
Good thread.
I'm going to put my hitlero-thomist shit since it joins your thread's topic, pardon me for that.
What is hitlero-thomism ?
Full blown fascism and national-socialism enhanced with the philosophy of saint Thomas Aquinas, plus elements of Hegelianism in order to solve some aporias of the thomist system (on causality and creation, on the link between nature and surnature, as Joseph Mérel tries to uncover it in his works, that are sadly not translated).
All of that with fully Traditional Catholicism, basically SSPX with the acceptation of sedevacantism as a (stressed) hypothesis.
Also, I guess it's obvious : total refusal and refutation of the holohoax.
Here are the books on that list that you can find in English and probably in .pdf :
All Carl Schmitt
Life of St Louis, by Joinville
Works by Mussolini, Hitler and Primo de Rivera (you can add Degrelle to that)
Céline's Mea Culpa, Trifles for a Massacre, School for corpses
Bardèche's Nuremberg
add some revisionist stuff you know to that, as long as it's as solid as Reynouard's or Faurrisson's
Try to read a biography of Adrien Arcand, even if you don't find his texts
Saint Thomas Aquinas can be easily found
Koninck's On the Primacy of the Common Good. Against the Personalists
Garrigou-Lagrange's God in 2 volumes
Catechism of Trent or Saint Pius the Xth's one are great
Mgr Lefebvre's They Have Uncrowned Him
Amerio's Iota Unum
Yeah lets just get the fuck out of here with that logic, shall we
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Principal obections are
-from white supremacists
>Hitler was not Christian, read Bormann ! read Rauschning
This argument lies on secondary sources and on the ideologies of other members of the party (Rosenberg or the SS). Let's take a look at what Hitler says
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and what Skorzeny says about Bormann (in La guerre inconnue, pp.257-258)
>The very anticlerical Reichsleiter transforms Hitler in an atheist that would have been, on top of that, an anticatholic militant, while NEVER the Führer, raised Catholic, abjured this religion.
-from Christians
>Hitler was not Catholic, read Mit brennender Sorge, Mussolini was not Catholic, read Non abbiamo bisogno
See the answer to white supremacist/pagans.
Also, the NSDAP and the Fascists were anti-clerical due to the Christian-Democrat mentality of a large number of Catholics, especially priests. The Catholics fought against CERTAIN aspects (especially eugenics), but not against the movement as a whole. That's why there is no condemnation of these movements in the encyclical, but only "statolatry", "idolatry of race" etc.
Any sane person saw that attacking National-Socialism would be siding with the international Jewry and Bolshevism, i.e. the natural enemies of any Catholic. To those saying Hitler was a pagan, why would he forbid the Thule gesellschaft and all the occultist associations as soon as 1933 and 1935 ?
On occultism, see that hitler.org
Finally, we have to understand that if nowadays there was a Catholic Fascist group, it would need to be extremely anticlerical due to the fact that the priests are mainy all modernists/heretics and would probably refuse the Common Good in order to protect the extremely nefast minorities.
nice copypasta
Hur dur, if the nazis did it I like it. Fucking hell, think for yourself
Hitler explicitly said it mattered little that jews got baptized or not, because it's an ethnicity. He even pointed out how jews did this to subvert...
There are no good jews.
> To those saying Hitler was a pagan, why would he forbid the Thule gesellschaft and all the occultist associations as soon as 1933 and 1935 ?
By that argument if he was a christian, why would he persecute churches during Kirchenkampf and execute several thousands of priests? He only forbade the "Thule Society", in 1941, after Hess took separte peace dealings under their guidance, and because it was a secretive organization, not of need anymore. Doesn't change the fact that several early NSDAP members were members, like Dietrich Eckart, Rosenberg, Hess and so on, while many others in the NSDAP weren't christian like Bormann, Ley, Himmler.
And the claim of the table talks being "falsehoods" are bogus. They were commissioned by Hitler himself, who tasked Martin Bormann, his closest aide and whom he described as his "most loyal follower" to collect. Bormann was given TWO secretaries at the Third Reich's expense.
All the contents of the Table Talks are corroborated by everyone else's remarks, like Speer's Table Talks and Otto Dietrich's memoirs. Out of the many people who knew Hitler and were present at these remarks, not a SINGLE one came out to denounce the table talks as a supposed forgery. Besides, his toughts there are entirely compatible with the NSDAP's actions, like Kirchenkampf and the persecution of churches, including, after 1941, the Rosenberg comission of a 30-point plan to create a national religion.
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And again, I'm not saying Hitler was this or that, the party stood for "Positive Christianity", which rejected the christianity of the main churches as "negative", a concept formulated chiefly by Rosenberg.
All ail Saint Hitler, savior of the white race. Oh wait, never mind, his mindless crusade destroyed half of europe, lost to the communists and let cuckoldry take hold of the entire west.
Thanks papa adolf
I agree with your premise that Jews, even converts, are not to be trusted.
But your logic that Hitler said it therefore it's true is on par with evangelicals pointing to the Bible to prove the existence of God.
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You again.
You shill constantly when people try to say that nazism, fascism and christianity are not opposed to eachother in essence.
Show your flag.
Again "all praise to saint adolf, who could do no wrong" you are an idiot
You're a retard.
Typical white nationalist rhetoric that only a mutt can get behind. Whites have been killing other whites for millennia. Hitler fought against the whole world and only that was enough to get Germany on its knees. Added the fact that beevis and butthead were his two closest allies.
So you think Hitler's ideas aren't a threat to the kikes, despite his Volkisch Weltanschauung requiring a world-coalition to destroy, after it maintained itself strongly and provided a real threat to their world order, but that the churches, which are entirely co-opted by them, and made mostly on non-whites at this point, will be what will help the white race? Not National Socialist principles? Because it's "Political Christianity" what (((they))) totally fear...
ONE LAST TIME.
POLITICAL CHRISTIANITY DOESN'T EXIST.
KEK, I know that, but the point is, he didnt even try to save his people after he had lost. He could have saved germany in 1944 by suing for peace. Everyone knew the war was over. He did not even try. His Generals even tried to kill him so Germany wouldnt get dismembered by his suicidal plans for a fight to the death
You completely strawmanned my point and dodged it altogether.
Says the guy who resorts to spam his retarded perversion of ideology, and acts shocked that people who follow it trully reject it?
I wouldn't have as much of a problem if you kept spamming "principal objections" pasta with proven lies...
Better to die in flames than to surrender
>political christianity doesn't exist
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You should read what Hitler had to say about that party, how they were worse than socialists, but just bourgeuouis people who used religion to herd the goyim into voting, and then served the same jewish interests
How so?
No, what I'm saying is that you are literally saying "well hitler did it so it must be right" you cant be unironically this much of a hitler worshiper, can you?
It is a political movement that is needed, but it must be one founded and aiming at Christian nationalism or localism (I am big on subsidiarity), no it will not coe from the pulpi, it will come from political Christians with an Ideology that (hopefully) isnt led by a fucking drug-addicted maniac
My point was that using Hitler as an infallible authority figure is logically flawed, and you conclude from that that I believe Hitler wasn't a threat to Jews.
that is actually retarded.
"Better to have your wife and daughter raped than make a deal with the Western allies"
The soviets should have been fought to the death, but they should not have even been trying to stop the westerners if they were not going to sue for peace