What's your stance on Ukraine?

What's your stance on Ukraine?

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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!

That pic is inaccurate, Crimea is part of Russia now.

no it's not rabbi

Cyкa блят!

i support ukrainians right to rule themselves and not be under moscow but i think if they join the eu they will get full pozzed.

Wanted to free itself from shitty corrupt government, and fought them and won

Now thousands of good white boys are being killed in the east for no fucking reason

Ukrainians have the right for their independence and to resist the territorial grab by leftie commies and proxy-Russians.
But dont forget Jews are again involved in this conflict - on both sides.

If more people said this to them, the Ukrainians would lose the brainwashing.

Many Ukrainians are fairly conservative (close to Poles) and I know for a fact that they would not like the EU -- the problem is they are victims of decades of anti-Russian brainwashing that makes them think that anything that's against Russia must be good.

The Ukrainian far-right nationalists (AZOV, Right Sector etc.) and the Jews in the Ukrainian government both hate each other. They only cooperate with one another because they share a common goal in maintaining the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

>inb4 Azov is financed by Jews - .t Kremlinbot

washed up

It's never been a territorial grab. The donbas didn't try to separate until innocent people started getting killed, and Russia never took the land because they were smart enough to avoid ww3 for now.

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No such thing

I think it should be partitioned mostly to russia, lvov to poland, and maybe have a rump state around kiev be its own thing. Everyones happy. Right now ukraines borders are huge, and untenable.

Greater Moldova

Rightful breadbasket of Third Reich.

You wouldn't say the takeover of Crimea was a territorial grab?
Novorossiya is pretty much a Russian proxy state as of now.

Fuck Putin.

>I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about

Russian clay

Imagining i give a fuck about your opinion

>the problem is they are victims of decades of anti-Russian brainwashing that makes them think that anything that's against Russia must be good.

the russian governments actions havnt helped the relationship either as well as the actions of russian people themselves (for example almost every russian poster is very harsh against ukrainians). ukraine is literally africa tier in some respects, they have such a bad problem with poverty and corruption that they think the eu will save them from.

>thinks the jews aren't controlling ukraine now

Friendly reminder:
opensocietyfoundations.org/projects/stand-ukraine

No, Russia had a lease on Crimea already and decided to avoid a bunch of bullshit by making it permanent when the Ukrainian government started acting like niggers.

One more thing -- Jews are completely irrelevant to this.

It was not the Jews who convinced Ukraine to want to join the EU. It was the Ukrainian nationalists of the 1980s and 1990s for whom the Enemy #1 was Russia.

The problem is that many of those nationalists have never been to the Western countries (plus the fact that "the West" looked very different in the 1980s -- it was much less "pozzed" back then), so they began to idealize it. As a result, the entire country has gone on a wild goose chase after a "sensible" West. What the Ukrainians don't know is that "sensible" people who were Western leaders in the 1980s have disappeared in a single generation, and the current generation of the "social justice-oriented" pro-globalists that has entered the ranks of the current elites is only barely more right wing than Mao Zedong.

Youve gotta be anime villain levels of shit if you think the EU eill help stop corruption.

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Hungarians could say the same. Lots of people migrated through Ukraine.

Ukraine is "Africa-tier" for three reasons: 1) large rural population (more so than Russia), 2) indecisive government that has tied hands and can't go neither West nor East, 3) pretty terrible corruption (like Russia in the 1990s, except that Russia had Putin who cleaned the mess up a bit, imperfect as he is).

The Russians are pretty dickish cuz they are annoyed by Ukrainian pro-Western brainwashing. As a Ukrainian myself, I had great Russian friends with good mutual understanding -- there is not hate and individual level.

True.
I think Putin has Ukraine's interests in mind, but Russia is itself corrupt, and continually handicapped, economically, and Ukraine has (justifiably) been hostile to Russian influence.

Until they can root out the extreme corruption, the problems will persist. USA has exploited the fuck out of Ukraine's problems

Fun fact: 80% of threads started by Ukraine posters are anti-trump shill threads, and 80% of all shareblue links posted on Sup Forums come from Ukraine posters.

The thing is I do agree that some EU laws would help curb corruption. The problem is that this would come at the price of complete POZzing.

Many Ukrainians think that POZzing is not as big of a deal as we make it out to be. They are wrong. They are really fucking wrong. It causes a spiritual death of the nation in two decades blank.

I'm a Ukrainian with fairly anti-Russian family, but as someone who's "woke" on the POZ issue, I would rather have Putin annex the whole damn country than Ukraine experiencing what Germany/France/UK are experiencing right now.

>>inb4 Azov is financed by Jews - .t Kremlinbot
>implying it's not
I hope you do realize that the people who staged "I am Ukrainian" and "Kony 2012" are the same and the reason why.

Wow, big surprise?

Just like Jews control Russia and Putin as well.
Deripaska, Abramovich, Kohdrovsky, Gusinsky, Fridman etc.

Both sides, in Ukraine and Russia, in power are the "hidden" Jewish oligarchs. Some of these oligarchs may be pro-Ukrainian, others are pro-Russian. As of now, the Ukrainian government is financed by these - just like the Kremlin is.

Shithole country.

EU didnt help romania get uncorrupt. The fucking EU tried to punish them for protesting laws that made bribery legal. The EU would just use ukraine as a tool for propaganda and to leverage lressure on russia. The EU never has and never will care abot anything other than what germany wants. At least russia is that one side of the family you kinda hate, but its complicated. The EU is nothing like that, they want to exert control and influence with none of the consequences.

>Hungarians

>Lots of people migrated through Ukraine.

>>migrated through

>>migrated not lived = not their clay

Of Ukrainian ancestry. Agree completely. Ukrainians got played. CIA niggers exploited their hatred of Russians. Who since 1300 AD Ukrainians have considered fake Russians (mongrol half breeds). Unironically Ukrainians considered themselves Russian. My grand parents referred to themselves as being Russian. White Russians. Moscow Russians were considered to be yellow Russians.

Saying AZOV is "owned by Jews" because they accept government funding is completely disingenuous.
It is widely known that Novorossiya is supported by Israel. Even on their own official website they admit this.
mid-dnr.su/en/pages/news/golos-dobra-i-chesti-iz-novorossii-slyshen-v-izraile-0410/


AZOV and Right Sector are literally the best thing to happen to European nationalism in decades.
When shit goes south, they will launch a coup against the junta-government in Ukraine and turn the country into a giant race war training camp for European Nationalists.

The Russians have to win and secure a buffer state in the east, the Ukrainian government must be replaced withe people loyal either to the EU or to Kremlin.
More NATO troops on the Russian border are a threat to the balance of power betwen east and west which is currently being reestablished.

>Bulgarians
>fifth biggest minority in Ukraine
Might as well call it rightful Kazakhi clay. Fuck it, it should be east Mongolia.

>USA has exploited the fuck out of Ukraine's problems

didnt the US and russia promise to uphold ukraines sovereignty when they made an agreement to take their nukes away?

>I think Putin has Ukraine's interests in mind

putin has stated before his aim is to salvage whatever can be salvaged of the soviet union. im sure his main concern is to get as much of ukraine under kremlin influence as is possible.

Russia invaded the Crimea based on US State Dept. intel.

and america should be native clay shouldn't it?

where can i find this video?

Power Isosceles

You do realize we are talking roughly 1400 years ago right? Bulgaria then has very little to do with bulgarians currently living in Ukraine.

I mean, bulgaria is a part of greater romania, right?

Opposite.

Ukrainians have NOT been brain washed to hate Russians. They have perfectly good reasons to hate Russians. This is same idiot tier logic that Russians convinced burgers to hate Hillary. It’s fucking laughable.

Unless you're a russian shill, you have no reason to oppose ukraine's independence. Sadly pol is full of them so good luck getting out of this echo chamber

This - fucking hate that.

>When shit goes south, they will launch a coup against the junta-government in Ukraine and turn the country into a giant race war training camp for European Nationalists.

At this point I'm not even sure if you're being sarcastic here

>I'm a Ukrainian with fairly anti-Russian family, but as someone who's "woke" on the POZ issue, I would rather have Putin annex the whole damn country than Ukraine experiencing what Germany/France/UK are experiencing right now.

you mean youd rather get your sandniggers from durke-durke-stan than from north africa?

not saying you are wrong but lets not overstate 'le putin savior of the white race' meme either

>What's your stance on Ukraine?
It's not a real country, nor was it ever.
it needs to be divided up between its neighbors.

Kiev is full of Russians?

Russia didn't invade Crimea, it's literally their naval base, they had a lease.

Kike ran non-nation.

Ukraine is memestate.

not as much as you're part of greater mexico.

Exactly my point satan. Ukraine today has nothing to do with Bulgaria.

>Ukraine
no such thing

Gotta fix my layout, and I'm fully serious.
You wouldn't fight for pic related?
>b-b-but Putin is saviour of white Christian civilization
>t. amerifat

Greater mexico? Theyve been shrinking for as long as mexico has existed kn the map, bleeding territory north and south constantly until they now exist as a meme country which cant get its shit together while being neighbored by one of the worlds historically great powers. I mean come on

That's some dumb logic you have there you gypsy.
I'm not saying there aren't any shills here but we certainly have reasons to be against this aids ridden clusterfuck pretending to be a country

>Moscow Russians were considered to be yellow Russians.

lel at yellow russians. i remember hearing something like for ancient slavs different compass points had colours associated with them. so north was white (so white russians), west was i think red, east was i think green and south was black (black sea).

Poate cand ne da teritoriile inapoi, atunci o sa imi pese de independenta lor.

>South was black
So this is the power... of we wuz niggers
Woah

Spent the last month working remotely here. Feels good saving money. Heading to Bulgaria in a couple weeks, hope I don't get raped by gypsies

He has a point though, Mexico is a shitstain slowly creeping up the backside of america. They breed like fucking rabbits while white american women wait til they're 40 to pop out an autist.

>turn the country into a giant race war training camp for European Nationalists.

Ey, come on now. Lay off whatever the fuck you smoking senpai

kyivpost.com/article/content/ukraine-politics/spilna-sprava-leader-danylyuk-wanted-by-police-336016.html
>Members of Spilna Sprava, a radical anti-government group, vacated the Agricultural Ministry building on Jan. 30. They are led by Kyiv lawyer Oleksandr Danylyuk.

>Oleksandr Danylyuk
concordia.net/annualsummit/2017annualsummit/speakers/
concordia.net/community/oleksandr-danylyuk/
>Minister of Finance, Government of Ukraine

>Sean Hinton
concordia.net/community/sean-hinton/
>Director, Economic Advancement Program; CEO, Soros Economic Development Fund, Open Society Foundations

wnd.com/2014/03/soros-heavily-invested-in-ukraine-crisis/
>Since 2003, the group has been part of the Soros-funded Policy Association for an Open Society.
archive.is/gHmFF

>When shit goes south, they will launch a coup against the junta-government in Ukraine and turn the country into a giant race war training camp for European Nationalists.
Wishful thinking.

This.

I am pro sovereignty and what Russia did in Ukraine is the exact same shit USA does to small countries - the exact same neocon bullshit of starting wars and instability for no reason, instead of respecting a country's processes. Russia is on some kike bullshit with Ukraine and everybody knows it except the Russian shills here, because all of a sudden it makes them look like the bad guy instead of the US so they can't have that, and they blame the US for destabilizing it - how? Well McCain visited once lmao

>They have perfectly good reasons to hate Russians.

yeah. at various points in time the russian government have had distinctly anti ukrainian policies, fucked up ukrainian kulaks and send educated people to die in gulags in siberia.

Yet us bringing that old map up does not mean we have any teritorial claims or anything. Just normal wewuzzing.

Jewish made "revolution" using Nationalist who were duped by their Mossad/CIA agents. Now they are about to get culturally enriched.

Fortunately the Nationalist-Racialists of South East have managed to carve a bit of space where Whites can be safe.

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Its all Russian clay. Ukraine Is an artificial nation

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>Russia is on some kike bullshit with Ukraine and everybody knows it except the Russian shills here
Yeah and the Ukrainian uprising was totally a neutral uprising for freedom, with no influence behind it whatsoever. Do you seriously believe this?

Cлaвa Укpaїнi!
Cлaвa нaцiї, cмepть вopoгaм!

>Nationalist-Racialists of South East

LMAO. Novorossiya is claiming to be "antifascist" and openly Communist-Marxists.
Feast your eyes on this. Look what kind of lefty commie mutts are fighting for Novocommia.
youtube.com/watch?v=iykDSt9KnWQ
youtube.com/watch?v=f67cNi1qk3M

does anyone know where i can find this vid?

Ukraine doesn't exist, it belongs to Poland

I thought McCain support/Soros- {Same person when it comes to Geo politics- } the over throw of the democratic government

Not it doesn't belong to pooland your shit meme that was the commonwealth lasted arround 50-100 years,then you got raped by russia and germany just like everytime

LARPing for the information war. When it became fairly clear that the core of (((Euromaidan))) were Nationalists the Russians seized the opportunity...it's war, anything goes.

Go research for yourself the anti-semitic outbursts of many of their commanders and also their hyper-conservative statements.

And the famous cute Prosecutor barely hides her believes that 1917 was a (((conspiracy))).

mfw the only thing stopping mexicans from claiming aztlan is all the gibs they get

And I'm sure the pro-Russian protests were fluid and natural too, right?

Even so, it is up to Ukraine and Ukraine only to do whatever it wants about these uprisings and about its government - not Russia.

cyкa блят

Sorry to hear that, brate! We are fighting with russians for your freedom too, so you can peacefully sleep at night!

You're posting the Ukrainian government is getting funds by Soros and other interest groups?

I'm not for the Ukrainian government, idiot.
As i stated, saying AZOV is "owned by Jews" because they accept government funding is completely disingenuous.

The Ukrainian government and groups like AZOV only cooperate with one another because they share a common goal in maintaining the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

>it belongs to Poland

so when are you going to invade and take your clay back?

And it's not up to the US and the jewish speculators either.

They even have a whole Chechen battalion of Muslims working for them lmao. Nationalist-racialist ahahhahahahahaha. Moscow handlers getting their shills working overnight to paint their Duginist Eurasianist neo-commie bullshit like it is the new kind of Nazism - that's beautiful propaganda right there, they are so good at it.

When you reclaim New Zealand
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