The Politics of the Spirit

Hello board! I am making this posting to discuss certain elements of why things happen the way they do. I have been in study and meditation as a NEET for roughly 15 years, trying to comprehend reality and the world I live. I went from being a momma's boy christian, to an Agnostic, to a pagan Asatruar to a babyIonian acolyte, to a genuine follower of Christ. My journey has ended, and I have toured the depths of depravity and my own soul, nearly losing it actually, for the little wisdom I do now have.

I have a more general thread posted every Wednesday evening around 5 pm CST, but this stuff was weighing heavy on my heart, and I wanted to share certain practical knowledge of how karma, or biblically "Sowing and Reaping" work. You will find that, when viewed through this lens, human history and the planet make a lot more sense, and put the heart at ease.

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First of all, and this is paramount. People need to understand the foundation, the reason, and the practical workings of the so called "Archetypal World" or "Formative World" or "Invisible Realm" discussed in nearly every spiritual and religious tradition across the planet.

Mystics and seers, priests and monks, prophets and wise men and those who simply had a good eye, have spoken of this realm for countless ages, and ascribed to it the true inner workings of human history.

It is in fact why the world is the way it is today. All problems, have their root in it. All good things, similarly, have their root in it.

Physical Cause and Effect are illusions. Yes, they "happen", but they happen in a way that is confined by time and space - ultimately rent apart by changing relative context to history and being turned into dust by the passage of time. From an eternal standpoint, they do not exist. And I will argue, that the core of each human being rests in the eternal, beyond the scope of their flesh, their thoughts, their memories or personality..the so called "Observer" which dances with time, but is not of it .

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So, by this understanding, one can come to the conclusion that physical acts can be inspired by changes in the higher, formative realm. They can be "directed", as is the purpose of so called "meme magic", if one likes the term or not. What I desire to present is a more wholesome, and perhaps Godly way of approaching the situation. You see, when you understand the formative realm, you will know the intent is more important than the thought - the thought more important than the word, and the word more important than the deed - and ultimately, the Spirit of a man, more important than the intent itself.

This is the opposite of what the world teaches you. What your eyes teach you. What simple, shallow observation of reality teaches you, and yet, you could not be possibly be more confused as to the beginnings and endings of your problems. This is because you are living in a veritable, yes, "Satanic Mirror" of the truth, inverting it's order for the pleasure of a being that it would not be polite to speak of, as that topic would derail the most pressing and practical topic being presented here.

As the good book once said, "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen." These words were not spoken to trick any man or woman, but to jostle them awake out of the delusion that they were a hopeless, deterministic puppet of flesh, a clock on strings in a cold reality judged by blind machines. That, reality, the world, was alive. That God was also with them, even in their suffering, even in their depravity.

I'm not going to hide any crucial knowledge beyond this point, which I'm sure would save some of you quite a bit of time.

1. This is a thread based on the wisdom of books from the Bible. It recognizes God. If you have no tolerance for such a mentality, nothing I say will be helpful to you. Good luck, you are going to need it soon.

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2. This thread recognizes the existential threat so called "Jews", mostly the prominent and "elite" ones, and the viral spread of their mentality, pose to mankind. They will be used as negative examples. If this bothers you too much, again, nothing I say will have value to you. The bible said "You will know them by their fruits". If you cannot even know a thing by it's actions, it's words and intents, all the things it produces, then you are not ready to listen to what I have to say, for it will require of you much farther reaching vision than that to obtain value from this thread.

So. Moving forward in the next post.

How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions. 1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society). 2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power). 3)It determines what is held sacred in that society. For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions. 1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII. 2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on. 3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust. The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative. Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction. Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story. Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity. Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.
> Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.

I want to use perhaps, an obvious first example of what I am talking about. It would help to explain, in story, the concept of the Formative World in action.

This modern degeneracy I'll be focusing on is going to be the general alienation of the modern man from his brothers - the dissolution of the warm, comforting tribal condition into the cold, terrifying rat race of the modern world.

Does it have many physical causes and effects? Surely it does, there is rarely anything on earth that happens without such identifiable causes. (This has it's exceptions ;) ) But, when viewed through nothing but these identifiable causes, this is actually a rather complex and confusing question to answer. It is also linked to the rise in mental illness, especially in young adults.

How could these confusing patterns and varied causes with their similar effects be patterned into a simply understandable solution? It would be like, seeing a forest, instead of the trees, to use a popular saying. "There is a forest here, this is why there are trees everywhere." Is far more efficient than studying the DNA of each individual tree, and trying to figure out how each seed fell and into which spot and which whether conditions helped it. Surely, one can gain knowledge from this, I don't deny it. But it is not quickly practical, it does not immediately state the reality of the situation and allow one to move with grace on to other ventures.

Ending that analogy, this is the Formative Reason for the above stated degeneracy, put into the simplest words I can use. Continued.

Well said! You're not wrong, but I believe there is more to it. I kinda wanna delve into the microscopic. You have identified the wound - and I applaud you. Please stick around :)

To finish this example, it is..painfully simple.

Greed. You don't need to study a billion different example and try to compare them in some impossible equation. People got greedy.

The End. With greed, the modern man became more towards his wealth than the well being of his fellows..and here is the magic. The dark magic, anyway, if the term fits better:

By caring about himself only, Man created for himself a personal universe that only contained him. By not containing others, they were pushed aside. He no longer dreamed of the well being of those he should have loved - and so, in reciprocation, they ended their love for him. This, is Sowing and Reaping, and through a million physical reasons it executed it's divine blueprint upon him, a force of nature not even the Devil and all his demons could stop, if they wanted.

I did not need to even post multiple times about this. It is so simple, at it's seed root, that it can be communicated in but a paragraph or less.

Can you explain why you want to go Mirco level?
The problem in debate is that the enemy wants to take you to the micro level too and get lost in the detail

I want to go as macro as possible. And in the end it boils down to.

>certain group has gotten freedoms taken away from them and has lost many other things
>while another group has won unimaginable riches and freedoms that are godlike

That’s what it all boils down too, we have got things taken away and others gained extremely on our expanse.

Now the problem is, we view this sort of logic as..well..Childish, do we not?

"Well of COURSE Greed is involved! But if you REALLY wanna solve the problem, it's WAY MORE COMPLEX than that! I mean, first of all, you have the internet separating people, then, there's the whole 9-5 job zombie population and...."

...Just stop. You have lost sight of the formative realm, and fallen back into the physical. You are now robbed of any ability to change it, either in the world or in yourself.

You are blind. And even if you lead others to your way of thinking, you are the blind leading the blind, and you will fall off a cliff together. There is no honor in it, there is no glory, there is no beauty in a man so convinced he is wrapped in chains that he LARPs them in his mind, while he is in fact in the middle of a wide open field, hands pressed behind his back, cringing from the torments the illusion presses upon his Spirit.

Greed. Become more open, more giving. Maybe you will violate certain people's private spaces, private bubbles, but I have found that when you become less interested in yourself, and more in others, they feel this shift. Something inexplicable has happened, you...you're different. "Different", and they, once alone and cold, will far more often open up to you, and expose what little of their broken heart to you that they can muster to feel comfortable in exposing.

He who acts by laws of spirit - all laws of nature (physical reasons) must obey. This was the wisdom of Christ. It was however also his wisdom that man needed to be regenerated, or transformed internally to even begin to accomplish this, hence his death and resurrection on the cross.

The key for that are the shamanic wars or how the ten worlds were lost and recovered.

Another example, alright. I will be using specific Jewish degeneracy this time.

The decay between men and women, I'm sure you've all felt this. Women practice hypergamy, women are sluts, STDs abound, they want men to take care of their kids they had with "real men" they would dump you for in an instant if they could get back with them...the polyamory of men, the "stud" culture of banging new women every week, no longer interested in taking care of one woman and being her champion, but getting his dick wet, much like a dog. The romantic dream of a woman's hero dead, replaced with a population of animals, and you can never tell what they want from you..love, or your body.

This is not the way it is supposed to be, but there are so many reasons it is the way it is now. From Jewish involvement in porn, to feminism, to civil rights activism to MeToo to rape laws to divorce laws from societal and cultural standards on acceptable mating practices to ---

Stop. Lust. Originally, as is his penchant, the Jew peddled pornography in America as he has done throughout all western countries. When man's lust for his one wife, his "soulmate" to use a partially inaccurate term, but nevertheless fitting, became lust for all women - any ass, any pair of breasts, any pair of lips, and he AGREED to PAY for these services, his world was no longer about his one wife. His world was about pleasing himself, and as he pleases himself, women became destined to no longer please him.

Feminism has it's roots in men's penchant to fuck around, in basic english. All the Jew had to do, was sell it to them, be the "physical conduit" of Sowing and Reaping, and it was so. We let them in. We agreed, and we turned from treating our women with holy honor into perversion. That perversion did not exist in a closed system, and they turned foul as a result. Women now practice hypergamy, women now no longer cooperate with men to build a bright and harmonious future, and THEIR harvest (c)

(c) , their sowing and reaping is destined to be a life of loneliness. They, spiritually, archetypically speaking, did the same thing as men had been doing for hundreds of years.

This fact seems lost on the hearts of the modern man. And it is simple. Lust.

It can be boiled down, into one, simple, word.

Oh sure. I am going micro because I want to be effective, and broad, physically causal explanations help nobody. The problems you are talking about literally have their root in another dimension of meaning, and that's the root I'm trying to discuss.

You high?

You see, people want to be pagan, or atheists, or whatever, and somehow fix the current system's deficits. Bring honor back. Kill degeneracy - fix the family unit, which was killed by a mixture of greed and lust, combining the two former examples.

Our problems are not fixable the way a person fixes a car. We are not degenerating for some simple reason some political shift will fix. No political shift can save us, because..and I am being honest, the Devil is a liar, and he far more intelligent than any human being. The Jew has been instructed in this type of archetypal sorcery, and as long as we play the game they want us to play, we will never have our war, we will never have our revolution. We will scream, and they will double down harder, and harder, and harder, while the nation of cucks enters a truly zombified state, much to our horror when you find that we can no longer find human traits in them at all.

Put it simply: We turned on God. Did God do this to punish us? No. We are his children, and He loves us. As literal images of him...we are abstractions, of the totality of all reality, and the divine spirit itself. This means, we are gods. We co-create reality. "As a man thinketh, so is he."

When we turned on God, we turned on laws which ensured our inner world was girded and protected by symmetry, or spiritual beauty. Once, perhaps, we did unto others as we expected done unto us. And thought of them the same, intended the same, spoke the same and yes, even spiritually had the meaning of our lives rooted in being holy, and pleasing to God and all the things that make Him who He is.

This is not some mythical, stupid punishment from an angry giant naked man in the sky. It's very logical, actually. We chose to live a life that had it's ultimate spiritual effect rooted in our annihilation - and you can READ that annihilation in the very actions we took, themselves, proving it is not some arbitrary thing of a flippant deity.

I know this sort of thing will reach very few people...

But..that's sort of the point. I assure you, most people are intended to hate this kind of reasoning, simply because it is an outpouring of their true nature to retract into degeneracy, even while claiming to hate degeneracy. They do not know what degeneracy actually is, or how it's stopping us from becoming what we could ultimately be:

A race of gods, brothers and sisters in utter divine and ecstatic love with one another, completely having commandeered the laws of nature and brought them into subjugation to the Laws of Spirit.

Travel the stars? Please. You do not know the limits of such a union, only that I can truthfully tell you that it is beyond our comprehension.

Beauty indescribable, Life un-measurable waits for the few, and the few only. I can tell not many people even cared to view this thread..that's..sort of part of it. Only a few can look outside the death surrounding them and see the pure seed of how they got in such a circumstance.

Now you, as an individual must understand - you are the reaping, or the harvest of your parents, and you inherit their "original sin" from them. So honor your parents, they brought you into being, even if they brought you into their consequences of error as well.

Do better for youselves. Do as great a job as you can. Be generous. Be kind. Suffer for others, and do not care about the material consequences of your actions. Turn your back completely on the world and it's way of thinking, and accept Christ's gift of salvation, for he came and died to teach these things, and to satisfy a blood debt concerning our error.

God cannot look upon sin, but He loves you more than you know. To teach men the seriousness of what they had done, He sent his only son to die on the cross...a pure man, beaten and murdered. To teach us what we had been doing, all along, in the spiritual realm: (c)

...We had been beating a pure man and murdering him, since the beginning, by treating each other the way we had been. By being spiritually asymmetrical, by doing unto others what we did not expect them to do to us, by saying things about others we would not wish said about us, thinking things about them we would wish not thought of us, and intending such things. We did not have our hearts, souls, and spirits bent towards them and God.

Sowing and Reaping took care of the rest. This, is the fall of man. And your political problems discussed on this board are literally unavoidable unconquerable and invincible manifestations of the now gross state of that decay.

I love you all. Please consider what I have said. and may God's love go with you.

I can tell you I live by this system of thought, and it has always worked for me. It opens doors in the least likely places, and it has turned my life into a sort of tour, with God as my guide.

Every time, at the last possible moment, God shows up in my life as an extremely unlikely physical circumstance. This is because I trust Him, and I (try to) live by Faith. I choose to care about other people, and allow their betrayals to hurt deeply. I do not harden my heart, which is really an act of becoming dead inside, because the Kingdom of Heaven is for the living.

What all of us really want, whether we know it or not, is for the Kingdom of Heaven to come to earth. We just want to be loved, unharrassed, unassaulted, ungenocided.

But we never plant the seeds for those realities. So I have concluded my..small lecture on that topic.

Does anybody have any questions? I will watch this thread in case there are any.

Thank you for reading.

We ought to remember who and what EVERYONE REALLY IS - Pure Consciousness, which is INFINITE AND ETERNAL, experiencing life in a temporary human form. You can do ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO and you can be ANYONE YOU WANT TO BE, while still facing the karmic consequences of your actions. They want us to think that the average person is powerless to positively change the world, but the TRUTH is that we have INFINITE POWER - both individually AND collectively. There's only one of us here. If you hit yourself on the head with a baseball bat, they'll put you in a mental hospital, yet that's EXACTLY what people are doing on a global scale. You can call Pure Consciousness 'God' if you want, but I don't, because the word 'God' has religious connotations that I would rather avoid. Religion is the McDonald's of spirituality.

What we need to do is to raise our level of consciousness, both individually AND collectively. If even one person raises his or her level of consciousness, it has a ripple effect that benefits EVERYONE ELSE, even if they don't believe any of this stuff - and this is because 'reality' itself is HOLOGRAPHIC in nature. One of the ways that (((they))) have manipulated us so deeply for so long is by suppressing our sense of the possible. What we call 'reality' is COMPLETELY ILLUSORY and therefore COMPLETELY MALLEABLE - and (((they))) KNOW THIS, while most other people DO NOT. EVERYTHING IS ILLUSORY, EXCEPT PURE CONSCIOUSNESS ITSELF. This means that NOTHING is impossible (indeed, even the word 'impossible' itself literally says "I'm possible!"). People are AWAKENING to a MORE EXPANDED CONCEPTION of the world and life in general and this is a PROFOUNDLY GOOD THING. We owe it to our innate intelligence to QUESTION EVERYTHING and that includes EVERYTHING that I tell you. We have the power to transform this prison illusion into a PARADISE ILLUSION, so let's USE that power. (end of part 1)

(start of part 2) I am not racist (in the sense of hating any race), I am a race-realist. Race exists and we are not equal physically nor are we equal mentally, but anyone can rise above the limitations of his or her race (but it's difficult to do and therefore it rarely ever happens) - and despite the FACT that we are all unequal both physically and mentally, it is also a FACT that we are ALL EQUAL in terms of who and what EVERYONE REALLY IS - Pure Consciousness, which is INFINITE AND ETERNAL, experiencing life in a temporary human form - and we NEED to remember that to stand any chance of making the world a truly better place. I do not adhere to any religion, but the (((Bible))) was right when it said that we are ALL made in the image of God - and that was one of the very few times that the (((Bible))) was right. And while we can have lands where members of every race live together if that is what we want, each race still deserves a land which is entirely their own. Every race deserves its own place. And each member of any race should breed ONLY within that race - that's how we maintain REAL diversity (not kike-enforced 'diversity'). (end of part 2)

(start of part 3) We are all one - and the beauty of this is that we don't have to be cucks despite this fact (and it IS a fact). We can STILL save the white race from extinction and prevent the end of Western Civilisation. We ought to embrace nationalist principles to save the white race from extinction and prevent the end of Western Civilisation even while REMEMBERING who and what EVERYONE REALLY IS - Pure Consciousness, which is INFINITE AND ETERNAL, experiencing life in a temporary human form. Our TRUE STATE, our TRUE NATURE and our TRUE IDENTITY is Pure Consciousness and Pure Consciousness is ALL-PERFECT AND EVER-PERFECT. We are SIMULTANEOUSLY one yet different in our oneness in much the same way that the waves of an ocean are one with that ocean but are also unique in and of themselves in that each wave has its own shape, speed and size. I think that's pretty neat. What we call 'reality' is HOLOGRAPHIC in nature, so we are in fact smaller versions of the whole (which you can call 'God', if you want). Every part of the whole contains the whole and, to be more accurate, IS the whole. And just as a drop of water contains the same qualities as an entire ocean of water, we likewise contain all that exists within us - but merely on a smaller scale. From unconditional love we ALL sprang and to unconditional love we ALL return. I am another you and you are another me. There is no death, only transference of consciousness. There are no answers, only choices. There are no hallucinations, only shifts in perception. There are no laws, only habits. There are no coincidences, only synchronicities. There are no truths, only experiences. There is no separateness, only oneness. Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but my message shall NEVER pass away. The message is more important than the messenger. (end of part 3)

(start of part 4) Anything is possible and (((they))) are obsessed with suppressing our sense of the possible - one of the ways (((they))) accomplish this is by restricting our access to correct information. (((They))) are hoarding knowledge of TRUE history, TRUE geology, TRUE astronomy, TRUE health, TRUE physics, etc. and, most importantly of all, knowledge of the TRUE nature of 'reality' itself while teaching a false, incomplete and distorted version of those subjects to the general public, who usually unquestioningly accept all of it. To anyone who dismisses anything that I say as being 'crazy', just remember that all it takes to suppress a person's sense of the possible is to restrict his or her access to correct information. Simple as that. Don't let others dictate to you what can and 'cannot' be done, what is 'real' and 'unreal' and what is possible and 'impossible'. You can do ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO and you can be ANYONE YOU WANT TO BE, while still facing the karmic consequences of your actions. People are AWAKENING to a MORE EXPANDED CONCEPTION of the world and life in general and this is a PROFOUNDLY GOOD THING. We owe it to our innate intelligence to QUESTION EVERYTHING and that includes EVERYTHING that I tell you. (((They))) are obsessed with suppressing our sense of the possible. There are two things that (((they))) do not want you to know above all else:

1. That who and what we ALL really are is Pure Consciousness, which is infinite and eternal, experiencing life in a temporary human form (you can call Pure Consciousness 'God' if you want, but I don't, because the word 'God' has religious connotations that I would rather avoid).

2. That what we call 'reality' is illusory and therefore malleable, which means that nothing is impossible (indeed, even the word 'impossible' itself literally says "I'm possible!"). (end)

I mean especially lately I feel rather lost, like real lack of direction. Quit my job around 2 months ago, which I kind of regret because it was decent paying unskilled labor, that I worked my way up over a year, but I just couldn't handle the owners of the company. They were my age, and I didn't respect them or care for how they treated the employees. I broke up with my girlfriend of 3 years, and stopped doing all drugs over 3 months ago, which were a huge part of my daily life. I just got tired of it all, and I derive so little pleasure from anything. I'm not depressed though, it just feels like I'm not attached to anything. Its like apathy maybe, I just accept reality as it comes immediately but I want some change at the same time. I've abandoned my friends, who felt like acquaintances honestly, except for an old one I recently went out of my way to reignite our friendship, but still lots of distance in between. I accepted Jesus wholeheartedly probably around 6 months ago, but looking back I noticed myself drifting towards that path. How do you find direction in life? I've gotten closer with my family lately in some regards which has been pleasant I guess, but they live so far away its not quite the same.

woah deep brah... got goose bumps reading =]
I agree mostly...

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Your insight is hitting me right in the feels. The family unit is suffering more and more each day as we chase the geeen dragon at our zombie nine to five to pay for the stuff (((they))) are tell our children they need to conform to a neoliberal society that's being pushed down their throats as the norm. Conservative parents have to deprogram our children of the socialistic ideologies that these libtard teachers are infesting their minds with.
Rinse and repeat

have another image... =]

ideology is a by-product of biology, an aspect of nature. competing systems in accordance with natural selection/natural law. a system which is found to be dissonant can not and will not survive, systems of efficiency tend toward symbiosis and grace, those of discord and chaos will be shattered and strewn across the landscape as mountains of corpses piled towards the sky.

ironically or rather naturally as is stated in scripture man is a flawed being, this can be proved and argued philosophically. man can not be perfected as that would change the definition as to what man is. our mistakes are normal and as natural as anything else.

nature does not make mistakes, god does not play dice. utopianism is a fanciful dream and not based within reality, the garden can be imagined yes, but a garden can never be realised fully. egypt was once a garden and now lies in ruins.

abandon ideology, abandon dogmatism, these are biological traps for the unevolved. rise above biology. realise that the achievement of which is only a dream and not a possibility. do not serve flawed reasoning.

walk the desert and fill your vessel with sand, place it upon the altar and watch the hourglass run. gaze into the pool of mercury. what do you see?

last one...
I combined all the frames to show you the flight path....
This is a nice "HELLO here I am..."
I am out...

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As a general rule but that's a real thing, remember that anglos wanted more than just territorial gains, they wanted to rule the academia.

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>I do not adhere to any religion, but the (((Bible)))
>(((Bible)))

Please stop.

>Please stop.

I assume you are quoting me (even though you do not know how to link posts properly), so I will say this: No, I will NEVER stop! kek

(((Bible))) = Buy bull

The (((Bible))) is a prison of the mind. The (((Bible))) is a vibratory veil. The (((Bible))) is a frequency fence.

Mary was only a virgin if you don't count anal. :)

Hey there! Thanks for commenting.

>How do you find direction in life?

Well, look deep inside...what do you want to do in your life? You can only find that out by asking yourself and really listening, in meditation. Work it out with God, compare it against what you know to be true about him and what He cares about, not just what you care about. He will transform your desire into it's best possible version..and after a bit of real, deep reflection and meditation on that, your spirit will come alive - you will feel like your idea is full of life, like it somehow burns in you.

Anything less, and you have allowed yourself to become a slave to circumstance. Many people, admittedly, cannot seem to avoid this..but with God, there is always a way. Keep believing, and keep the faith :)

You're right, user. But remember, the seed is we lost our first love. God and Country...God and Country. It turned from that, to "Me". You can never fix the problem with "Me" sitting in the chair.

The mis-link was a shallow mistake. The "(((Bible)))" Stuff there is a deep and existential mistake, but when you are free to make. Men cannot make the transition on their own...human history is a testament to that. They need Christ.

>They need Christ.

No they don't. You've been played.

...One^ you are free to make.

The Bible is God's word, and God's truth, and it is the hallmark of the entire degenerate age, the degenerate West, the proliferation of Feminism, Atheism, the proliferation of the Jewish Global State, it is literally at the core of the entire degeneracy I am speaking about....when men decided to kick God out.

Nobody can seriously entertain an anti-bible stance when they see what it's rejection coincided with.

It coincided with death.

Mhmmm

>You've been played.

And if I'm interpreting this correctly, there is some attempt going on right now in this thread to kike me as well. This is no longer possible, since I've seen your demons and your gross shit before my very eyes. I am no longer cuckable, and I stand for God even when the whole world stands for your perverse illusions. I'm not terribly appreciative of shills entering my threads, but I suppose I was already concluded.

Tell me: How do you explain the prevalence of miracle healings in Christianity? Of Christian Charity over all other groups combined? How do you explain how Christianity's decline was countered with an immediate decline in morality, and family/national structural stability and the rise of sexual degeneracy and porn?

How do you explain away all these *unfortuneate* coincidences?

Read: Because David Brock wants you dead no matter what you believe in

I hope there's anime and vidya in heaven

If there are sapient beings on other planets in the universe, are they doomed to spend eternity in Hell for not knowing about the existence of Jesus Christ or did Jesus Christ visit their planets too?

If God can do anything, can she create a rock so heavy that even she cannot lift it?

I apologize if I was not able to produce information specifically helpful to what you were talking about, user.

But from my perspective, Men get caught up in complex puzzles generated by their own mind, when it's really just fallout from a much simpler flaw in their character. Politics...can't...really cover up those flaws. It can't hide them. It pushes the pieces around the board, sure. Some people suffer, then they're happy - others are now suffering, who were once happy. Rinse and Repeat.

I do hope you were able to take something away from this. Anyway, I have to go buy food for my family.

Goodnight everyone! =) And remember - God is not some gross jackass hovering in a sea of apathy, watching you fuckup and destroy the world over simple, mechanical errors in judgment or reasoning.

i.e. "Why are we suffering?!" "Well...you pressed the wrong button..."

Everything that happens on earth is grounded in exceedingly deep, well founded spiritual reasons. It stems from our souls.

So fix the root. Fix the root, and just sit back and watch the rest of the nonsense of your life fall into place.

Few will ever do this - and so, we are destined to suffer. I..do not believe, saving the world is possible, because few will ever rise up against the chains in their soul, and divorce themselves spiritually from the way of Mammon.

But in the end, it's not really about the earth. God even said, in the good book, he was going to completely destroy it anyway. It's about you.

He loves you, not some space rock or gay frogs.

I'm off! And, the shills are probably inbound. Flee while you can.

According to your religion, people who reject Jesus Christ are doomed to spend eternity in Hell..... but how can a finite cause have an infinite effect?

Sorry user - I don't fear men. Only God.

And David Brock should fear God more than he currently does.

Bye. Oh, and thanks for not answering these questions of mine:

That's exactly what I expected from you. Your God is a lie, your religion is a lie and your life itself is a lie. Have a nice day. :)

If there are sapient beings on other planets, God has made provisions for them. They possibly aren't even involved in our own spiritual dilemma..maybe they have no sin. I don't know. I don't even know if aliens are real, desu. Sorry.

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Yes, No. Neither. Both at the same time. None of the above. All of the above. God exists outside the scope of your logic.

Repeating numbers confirm! Thank you, Based Kek! CHRISTKEKS BTFO! :)

You have more time than you think on this planet to make a concrete decision about God. If it's concrete, it is eternal in it's own right. If you don't - who is to say God does not make provision for those people? I do not know all the things God does with souls, only it is important to follow him for the general well being of your own.

>If there are sapient beings on other planets, God has made provisions for them.

And your scriptural 'evidence' for this is?

the mods tried to whack it, but I was too quick for them.

>If God can do anything, can she create a rock so heavy that even she cannot lift it?
How is it you can build and maintain your own body without knowing the fundamental mechanisms behinds its functions?

Huh. Well, I just answered them by accident lol. Shills, man. I swear.

There is no scriptural evidence, because the bible doesn't even mention other planets or aliens on them.

I don't see what's hard to understand this.

>You have more time than you think on this planet to make a concrete decision about God.

What if you were aborted? That's not enough time to make a concrete decision about God.

Hey thanks! You kinda humble me with the name of the file there...I'm not sure how real it is. It's just what I have in my heart. I will admit, it is HARD to respond to so many people. I felt really underprepared to just deal with the attention I think that night. I need a better strategy for staying focused on the topic and getting out relevant information to genuine questioners...filter out the shills somehow.

>who is to say God does not make provision for those people?

By the same token, who is to say God DOES make provision for those people?

> If you don't - who is to say God does not make provision for those people? I do not know all the things God does with souls, only it is important to follow him for the general well being of your own.

Just starting off with reading this, but here's an early thank you for taking the time.

>who is to say God does not make provision for those people?

By the same token, who is to say God DOES make provision for those people?

You see the problem with your entire very jewish and very kiked line of reasoning is, you expect the Bible to have an answer for everything. Even morning sickness. It is a limited, extremely important amount of core material, and that's all it is.

Asking about the salvation of aliens, or rocks that God can lift, etc, paint you to be a person who isn't really thinking about this very hard. Or more likely, a Jewish shill who knows his arguments make no sense.

>Asking about the salvation of aliens, or rocks that God can lift, etc,

All valid questions for a book that claims to be the infallible word of God. And there is no such thing as a bad question. But you wouldn't know that, since you unquestioningly worship your 2,000-year-old Middle Eastern book. lmao

They're not valid questions. They're completely off topic to what the bible is - a message to humans in a state of sin.

Answer my question, now. Why did the fall of civilization into abject depravity coincide with the fall of Christianity?

I always ponder if it's a good idea to listen to the brit.

There are such things as stupid questions, I hate to tell you. I have faith that God will cover in the details of the...interesting...questions you have posited, none of which have anything to do with salvation, or living a right and proper life that results in the highest degree of human happiness, and peace.

>paint you to be a person who isn't really thinking about this very hard.

No, it paints me to be a person who thinks about this too much by your standards - because it is possible in your religious world-view to think too much. And questioning everything is fatal for (((Christianity))). lol

>Or more likely, a Jewish shill who knows his arguments make no sense.

I am neither Jewish nor a shill nor am I making any arguments, I am only asking valid questions. kek

and the memeflag tries to make this a thread on paganism and the worship of self.

What led you to God, specifically?

Was it Sup Forums?

>There are such things as stupid questions

Only for gullible, easily-led, weak-willed people like you. lmao

Alright. Sadly I really do have to go the store, lol. Anyway, I've concluded the teaching. May God's love be with all of you - and, may God bless me with the ability to identify and simply ignore the jewish shills he sends into my threads. I have a problem with that.

Amen, and God bless everyone. Live according to Christ, Live according to Spirit, and in so doing, find that you now live truly :) Bye!

Godspeed brother

Third of the way through and this is the most fantastic summary of .... I don't even know what to call it - holistic spiritual morality? No cringe, but this is some REALLY astute and succinct stuff

Great posts. Best thing I’ve read in weeks. I don’t disagree with any of your solutions and the way you say we should feel/interact with the world. In fact, I’m reminded that I used to be this way... but decades of reality has changed me. I simply can’t deal with people and have found that the VAST majority of them can be reduced to archetype with the end result being them taking from you and using you as a tool for their own means. They don’t even view you as a person, just an extra on the set of their life that’s used to bring out the greatest of the protagonist. I now have a constant passive disgust with everything and I don’t know a way to get back to the mentality that you describe.

>It coincided with death.

The creation of the bible was when the christian religion was shackled with its own scribes and pharisees at the command of a pagan emperor. It's a helpful book, but Jesus didn't say that it was good for him to leave because 300 years later he'd have a pagan emperor create a religious heirarchy and command it to write a magic book that would answer all our problems. that's idolatry. Jesus said it was good that he leave because then the spirit would lead us to all truth.

The Chinese are apparently more intelligent than Europeans, and their civilization is much older, so why were Europeans responsible for most of the inventions and philosophy in our history? It's because the truth the spirit leads us to is far wider spectrum than that contained in the bible.

Christians before the bible would gladly go to the lion's den for Christ. Why did they need an official state religion?

There is scripture that is every bit as valid as that which is included in the bible (the book of Enoch, for example), and there is scripture in the bible that should be questioned (the epistles of Paul). The sermons of Charles Finney have been much more instrinsic to my development than the epistles.

The bible is a good book, but it's just a book. there are errors, omissions, contradictions, etc. the doctrine that it's the complete and infallible word of God is so infantile that is doesn't stand up to any real spiritual scrutiny.

>If God can do anything, can she create a rock so heavy that even she cannot lift it?

Yes and no. You should read Hegel's science of logic to understand the duality of opposites.

Just because people who call themselves Christian believe this doesn’t mean it is biblical. In fact, it is against the very words of Christ himself. The lake of fire is precisely the end atheists hope for: spiritual oblivion.

God says that doing magic and sorcery is an abominable sin, we shouldn't be messing around with things such as these.

>I have been in study and meditation as a NEET for roughly 15 years, trying to comprehend reality and the world I live. I went from being a momma's boy christian, to an Agnostic, to a pagan Asatruar to a babyIonian acolyte, to a genuine follower of Christ.
Seriously how can anyone study spirituality and religion for 15 years and still fall for such obvious horseshit? I hope you're trolling if not you need mental help.

Sorcery:
Original Word: φαρμαkεία, ας, ἡ
Transliteration: pharmakeia
>pharmakeia
That word sound familiar?
(from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts

>Things that make you go ‘hmmmm’.

>for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Hmmmm.

sheep among wolves, user

bump

So basically, you have found the 'ultimate truth' FIVE FUCKING TIMES NOW. But THIS time, you got it right FOR SURE! Until next year when you become a Scientologist or some other bullshit. I'll pass on this.

I have returned!

I will agree, as I have put into my general posting, that the bible is not perfectly inerring. This will probably make me unpopular with certain people, because "If it can't all be believed, what can?" But there are cases - historical accounts for existence between Kings II and Chronicles which tell the exact same story but with a different version of the sequence of events...it's minor things like that.

The overarching spiritual message I believe, is unerringly true. And that's all that matters. Human hands with God's anointment wrote the bible's original composite book, and human hands do err. I believe those errors are small enough that one can, very, very safely, read and extract pure spiritual value from Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the NT and Revelations.

Still..I have to kinda push this - kicking God out did coincide with the birth of the Jewish world order and the extreme degeneracy that began. It started with "Having a form of godliness but denying the power therein" warned of in Timothy. Those who can see the greater picture, will know in their hearts that these two things were connected, and as God's morality was eschewed, so were the blessings intimately attached to that morality.

Not that things were ever perfect, but, they have gotten a lot worse.

Some people have to go to hell to reach heaven man. If the length of my journey disturbs you, feel free to go. Not sure why you bothered to comment though. :)

Have you seen Jordan Peterson’s bible stories?
opinions?

Thank you for this thread, OP. This is the reason I still come to Sup Forums.

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You know, I havn't? I know JP avoids the JQ (lol), but that doesn't mean the man has no wisdom. I didn't even know he was a Christian..

Hey man, you're welcome.