Here's some redpills that the average alt-righter can't handle
>Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies did not divide people according to physical differences, but according to religion, status, class, language. >>Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait, or gene distinguishes all members of one so-called race from all members of any other so-called race. >Most genetic variation is within not between races. >>The early U.S. economy was built on slavery. A concept of race was invented to justify the denial of rights and freedoms others took for granted. A hierarchy, a power structure was born.
How could old societies divide people with physical differences? There was no mass immigration as there is today.
Landon Jackson
>red pill thread >posts neon blue pills
Elijah Johnson
>The early U.S. economy was built on slavery When will this meme die? Slaves contributed nothing to the economy of America. They did work that literally anyone could have done, hence being slaves.
Zachary Sanchez
Slaves did the work that machines do today. I guess we need to give JCBs reparations now.
they didn't had to because everybody stayed on his own fucking continent saged because OP is a nigger dick sucking faggot
Nathaniel Martinez
oh my goodness you can't be more than 16 lmao. this reeks of regurgitated marxist hs teachings. let me guess you read newsweek and listen to npr and take everything at face value because it sounds right.
Jackson Martinez
>>Race is a modern idea. No it is not. The word RASA, meaning Race is not a new word. Is as old as times. The Kaste System in India was established to prevent Aryans from mixing with Black Indigenous people, to preserve Pure RASA.
>Race has no genetic basis. Yes it does. DNA studies clearly shows Races, just not the way some people would like them to be.
>A hierarchy, a power structure was born. Implying the USA invented hierarchy is retarded. Hierarchy is part of the hardwiring of human brain. Aka the Lobster.
>Race is a modern idea It was recognized by the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, and the >religion, status, class, language largely had an ethnic component to it. Ur and the other city states were composed of different populations and ethnicity directly played a role in several upheavals. >Race has no genetic basis. I don't even know what the fuck this is supposed to mean, the entire basis for it is genomic >The Not one characteristic, trait, or gene distinguishes all members of one so-called race from all members of any other so-called race. All characteristics and traits are, are genes being expressed. There's clearly a shared phenotype amongst colloquial races. >Most genetic variation is within not between races >Lewontin's Fallacy intensifies thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/variation-within-and-between-races/ >the early US economy was built on slavery lel, no. "King Cotton" is over-hyped and Northern farms out produced their southern counterparts. >That's when race became a concept Just dead fucking wrong
Adrian Jackson
>debate me >makes one post and leaves. Here’s a left wing source with some real redpills. I encourage everyone to read it. vice.com/en_us/article/ppzevg/hey-v12n5
I agree with your greentext, because that's just the reality we actually live in. Ethnicity is what pre-late-modern people cared about and, in their opinion, Florentines and Genoans were two different ethnicities.
Mason Gomez
>Race is a not a modern idea. False dichotomy. There are more periods besides modern and ancient. The idea of race has been around for a long time and people were very conscious of it. (voting laws). >Race has no genetic basis. False. Even computers can detect race with near perfect accuracy. Even if you were right, then that would mean affirmative action is based on nothing. >The early US economy was built on slavery. No, the US economy would have been fine without slavery. Slavery was just a slight boost.
Jayden Butler
Millions of whites were slaves in North Africa and the Middle East. Also the first slaves in North America and the Caribbean were Irish and homeless from English cities.
They found white slaves (indentured servants with 20 terms) to struggle in the hot sun (redneck). Also, whites tended to revolt and kill their overseerers, whereas blacks managed fine in the sun and subservience came more naturally. There were some black revolts (like Haiti), but largely, they worked hard.
The term 'indentured servant' is basically the same as a slave but, if you lived long enough, you might become a freeman. Most died before they became free and any child an indentured servant had was owned by the master.
Slave owners in the Caribbean plantations bred white slaves with black slaves to save money but this was eventually put to stop because it threatened the lucrative triangular trade of people and goods. This is why many blacks in America and the Caribbean have some white DNA.
Are you 12? Read the archives, you sound retarded and you are very uninformed.
Justin Cooper
>1 post by this id sage and report slide threads
Aaron Parker
Bullshit. Slavery actually hurt the U.S. economy, as did it to Rome. Slavery stunts technological advancement, and is general degenerate for a society to have a repressed population present within it.
Julian Barnes
>"Roman nose" >"Mongol eyes" >"Moorish skin" I could go on. Mass migrations have largely defined Eurasian history, btw. Europeans are not indigenous to Europe. Our ancestors migrated there in pre-history and displaced most of the natives. The Basques are one of the few surviving indigenous Europeans.
>The early U.S. economy was built on slavery. No bud it was built by the European natives, slavery was only important in the late colonial era and only in the south.
Logan Hall
MUMMY
Carson Turner
No, communists have often been racists. Don't believe me, I'm not a commie, believe the second result for "marxism race" I found on quackquackcum
>"3) Neo-Marxism >"Neo-Marxism further developed early theories of race and racism. In the 1970s and 80s, a wide variety of Marxist conceptualizations of race. class, and the state emerged, including a substantial body of theoretical studies which attempt to develop a more precise and systematic understanding of racism in capitalist society as rooted in the dominant social relations and power structures."
>Redpill thread >Post garbage >Debate me >1 post by this ID
Taste my egas and die painfully.
John Hall
Whites are white.
Kevin Diaz
this tbhfamalambrotharamdesune~
Colton Sanders
Even the battlescenes are boring
Ian Williams
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Jonathan Richardson
>The early U.S. economy was built on slavery desu every economy was prior to the invention of the steam engine. Motive power was muscle-based world-wide.
Daniel Gray
Race wasn't developed by the Spanish, it comes from Muslims. The earliest references are from late 7th early 8th Century Arab traders describing the "Zanj" (Arabic for black) people of Southeast Africa. They described several Bantu ethnic groups as being the same ethnicity due to their cultural similarity, which is not surprising because the Bantu only spread from the Niger region very recently in the scheme of things. Much later, when Muslim slaving grounds in Eastern Europe were cut off by the Crimean Khanate, the Ottomans, and the Commonwealth, Ibn Khaldun and other Arab scholars began to develop the idea of race to justify the enslavement of Muslims from Southwest Africa. Under Sharia, Muslims are not supposed to enslave Muslims, so they came up with the idea that dark-skinned Africans had a biological predisposition to slavery and that Allah wanted them to be enslaved. So if you believe in race, you believe in late Medieval Muslim bullshit. Kind of like if how you are a Christian, you believe in late Bronze Age Jewish bullshit.
Break the cycle, embrace science.
Austin Lopez
Wow, a lot of really bad information in this thread.
Jose Harris
This is the first White House petition I have ever signed. Sharing with everyone I know.
Nathaniel Morgan
You're making a lot of unsourced claims there, Chaim. Let's begin with a simple one:
>Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies did not divide people according to physical differences, but according to religion, status, class, language.
Creating extensive scientific textbooks about race might be a relatively modern (18th/19th century) concept, but you need to prove your claim that e.g. in Ancient Rome, a black man and a white man were, if they both happened to be slaves or downtrodden cityfolk, not treated differently based on their skin color..
>Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait, or gene distinguishes all members of one so-called race from all members of any other so-called race. >Most genetic variation is within not between races.
>Ancient societies did not divide people according to physical differences, but according to religion, status, class, language. You're forgetting the main one - tribe. Tribes were divided, even though they'd be mixing sometimes.
American racialists can't have tribal unity so they think people will neatly fall into 'White identity' whatever that means. I don't think that'll work out
Parker Davis
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Ayden Jones
I would melt if mummy ever looked at me like that.
163215435 >Ancient societies did not divide people according to physical differences WHAT
GET THE FUCK OUT
SAGE
Ayden Campbell
I propose a new board rule: If a thread gets 50 replies without a post from OP, it should be deleted.
Cooper Nelson
>>Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies did not divide people according to physical differences, but according to religion, status, class, language. Ti les re kathisterimene amerikane gamw to mialo sas kai ta ''Colleges'' sas. Petameno piadh pliromenoun erwta. Brainwashed piece of shit.
>leftist posts thread with "Debate me" >an hour pasts and he hasnt replied literally once
>nu/pol/ replies hundreds of times anyway
guys, i know you're mostly new since sit traffic tripled in 2016, but you need to understand, its fucking 2018
people who still manage to be leftists are all subhuman bugmen with no actual sentience, they are just a mindless slave to their most immediate impulses, unable to form a single coherent thought on their own, constantly virtue signalling that they're ripe to be cucked, simultaneously begging to be put out of their own misery because they know they will self destruct in the long run but dont have the courage to end their inevitable suffering themselves
we could literally fuck their whore moms and bully them into killing themselves, stop giving a fuck and start lifting weights
also remember to sage
Justin Butler
Someone explain to me right now why Nataliya is a single mother? Did her husband die fighting ISIS in Syria? Who would ever get divorced from this?
Jaxon Taylor
>Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies did not divide people according to physical differences, but according to religion, status, class, language. Maybe that's because ancient societies didn't see much of other races. It's different today because of increased contact and easier travel between locations. People would of course have distinguished by physical differences, because that is literally the first thing people can notice about each other.
Michael Carter
>it's a thinly veiled mummy thread
Ryan Diaz
>we should be like ancient rome. No.
Tyler Reyes
Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies did not divide people according to physical differences, but according to religion, status, class, language. Egypt has pyramids. They were made 4000 b.c. on those pyramids, they have paintings of light skinned people using dark skinned slaves/workers. I stopped reading your post after that since you're full of shit and more than likely a soyboy. Fuck this thread.
Thomas Ross
This was just a troll thread Sup Forums thinks they won but I got the reaction I wanted (((((;
Blake Richardson
>ancient societies didn’t divide people
Nigger did you even learn Roman history?
Jaxon Baker
>Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies did not divide people according to physical differences, but according to religion, status, class, language.
It's not like Aristotle wrote a treaty dividing humanity into asian, nordic and mediterranean races
Retard
>Race has no genetic basis
Bait, come on
Elijah Foster
But did you get the votez?
Luis Rogers
>in Ancient Rome, a black man and a white man were, if they both happened to be slaves or downtrodden cityfolk, not treated differently based on their skin color..
They weren't, assuming neither were Italians. The hierarchy of Roman society was >Patricians >Knights (Equites) >Plebeians >Citizens from a handful of favored cities (Capua pre-Hannibal, e.g.) >Italic Citizens of Rome >Non-Italic Citizens of Rome >Greek non-Citizens (flip these two during the Republic) >Italic non-Citizens (flip these two during the Republic) >Non-Citizens of other ethnicities >Allied citizens >Foreigners (mainly Persians) >"Barbarians" (definition varied over time, included Germans until Justinian or so [Byzantine period]) >Jews >Christians (until Constantine) >Slaves >Traitors >the damned
I majored in classics. Read a book older than your country.
Grayson Perry
She turns 38 years old 10 days from now. Imagine having a waifu that still looks that good at 38. We need to store mummo's DNA for future cloning purposes.
Cameron Peterson
Ibn Battuta, A.D. 1331
"Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated."
Carter Watson
>This isn't even true, though. Aristotle spoke about the different races. That's a misrepresentation/bad translation. He didn't mean race in the modern sense. Persians, Greeks, and Italians were different "ethnoi" to him. Ethnos is the Greek word often translated as "race."
Josiah Jenkins
Ibn Battuta, 14th century
"beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings."
Daniel Davis
Yep, Muslims invented race in the late 13th/early 14th Century. Nice to see a European who actually knows some history on this board.
Asher Ward
How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions. 1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society). 2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power). 3)It determines what is held sacred in that society. For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions. 1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII. 2)Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on. 3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust. The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative. Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction. Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story. Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity. Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned. > Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned.
Let’s not forget that’s more then 800years ago since then Muslims have been dumbing down and inbreeding like rabbits
Landon Turner
Inbreeding has long been a problem in Arab and Arabized cultures.
Charles Evans
>Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies did not divide people according to physical differences, but according to religion, status, class, language
uh huh.
Adrian Hernandez
>Ancient societies that were generally ethnically homogeneous across the map and lacked knowledge of the known world beyond their continent
Leo Taylor
>Ancient societies >did not divide people according to physical differences kind of hard to do when you have never seen a nigger in your life, eh mooshie?
Daniel King
That's cool, man [Citation needed]
Benjamin Reyes
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WE KILL EVERYTHING
Asher Gomez
But this argues against race. The differences aren't due to race, it says, they're due to geography.
Jacob Murphy
I was pretty sure of that being likely but you really can never tell these days with how crazy leftists are, it makes trolling too easy
Easton Martinez
^ debate OP
>OP ran out of force fed propaganda
Kayden Harris
>Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies did not divide people according to physical differences, but according to religion, status, class, language. False, see pic >Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait, or gene distinguishes all members of one so-called race from all members of any other so-called race. Race is genetically defined by clusters of gene variance and there are traits that distinguish populations from each other. The earliest modern classification was in skill shape which is where we get the terms Caucasian, Negro and Mongoloid from. See next picture >Most genetic variation is within not between races. Also known as Lewantan's fallacy, this assumes that genes are mostly uniformly distributed - they are not. >The early U.S. economy was built on slavery. A concept of race was invented to justify the denial of rights and freedoms others took for granted. A hierarchy, a power structure was born. The North surpassed the South in terms of contribution to the economy several decades before the civil war.
