Why are people on welfare allowed to vote

Why should people on welfare not lose their right to vote? People voting for the state to give them more money is a very unstable situation. A recipe for disaster.

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Yes and no. Welfare is definitely used to "buy" votes, but the minute you start restricting rights, it's a slippery slope. The same reason I oppose any and all gun control.

Nope.. people should also be required to write a political competency test before voting.

No. Youre 100% correct.

Only land owners should get a vote.

they shouldnt be allowed to vote. a net drain on society should not have an input on its direction.

>Why should people on welfare not lose their right to vote?
Because that's a violation of their constitutional rights you fucking idiot.
>A recipe for disaster.
So your brilliant solution is to make it so most of the people who would vote for such a thing can not vote. Wow what a great solution and completely not a reason for hundreds of jobless people with all the free time in the world to start burning down neighborhoods.

Look, if you want to bitch about the government extorting you for money then go do it. If you want to go bitch to your state legislature that you think social entitlement programs should be cut then go do it. But even asking such a fucktarded question makes me wonder if you even have the capacity to engage in civics.

No. But if you suggest restrictions you'll be called a racist. And like the other user said, if the government started restricting people's rights, would they really stop after messing with the welfare? Jews hold too much power right now.

The next civilization we build from the ashes will have to correct this problem. Although, sadly, we already knew this 250 years ago, which is why only landowners could vote, so somehow we will have to spell this out more clearly so that people if later generations understand why this is so. We also knew of course that wimen’s Suffer age or empowerment of any kind was a pathway to hell, but we fell for that one too. Hopefully humanity learns its lesson eventually.

>it's a slipperly slope
explain how whites in america would be worse off if welfare niggers could not vote

Again, in the original constitution, welfare was not a right, and only landowners could vote. They had no welfare AND no indigent voting. Freedom isn’t for everyone. It’s only for those responsible and functional enough to support themselves without government help.

I warned you, lass...

White landowners who also have children and have served in the military t b h.

We've essentially experiment with ideas that the ancients knew were bad. It's almost like how do we progress technologically without losing our original knowledge about the earth, life and society?

Seeing as how literal welfare no longer exists, what is your definition of "welfare", OP?

TANF?
SNAP?
WIC?
HUD?
SSI?
SSDI?
HAMP?
HARP?
Stafford?
VA?

All of the above?

You're a drone. Drones aren't supposed to think they are supposed to fetch and carry things so I can enjoy them.
Remember, droney, get an early night - you're going to need the sleep, Mr. Noseburg wants you brightband early tomorrow.

Letting niggers vote is a mistake.

I think a modern interpretation would be that only net tax payers should vote, not land owners. Also need to factor in consumption of public services, so some people who still are taxpayers would not be eligible.
Should be one vote per family too, so only men should cast the vote.

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How is an unstable system good for america?

And it's not restricting anything. It's a voluntary to take welfare. And if you do you should not vote.

>Because that's a violation of their constitutional rights you fucking idiot.

What violation of rights? I'm saying people should sign off their right to vote to get welfare. Taking welfare is voluntary. No rights re violated.

> So your brilliant solution is to make it so most of the people who would vote for such a thing can not vote. Wow what a great solution and completely not a reason for hundreds of jobless people with all the free time in the world to start burning down neighborhoods.

What? I don't know what you're going on about.

Topkek

Yes? All of that shit is just a drain. Its going to single mothers, and we all know what groups have ridiculous amounts of single mother.

They are allowed to vote because otherwise they would get jealous of the illegal aliens who can vote.

I’d be okay with taxes for social programs if they were used as originally intended, as insurance if you ever become unemployed
The government seemed to forget that pooling our taxes was supposed to serve as a net in vs out. People who pay in can take out in equal amounts.
What really needs to happen is not allowing “draining”, or allowing people to take more than they’ve given
I could say a lot about taxes. I became blackpilled as an adult, I want to storm Congress while it’s in session with garbage bags full of Monopoly money. I want to tear them open and roll around in it until I’m taken away or shot

>I'm saying people should sign off their right
Sorry I just had a seizure I think this conversation is going to end up going nowhere.

Hi Kurt Eichenwald!

I can't. Niggers voting has been a mess. But they're bringing back segregation on their own which is a nice turn of events. Let em have Detroit and chicago, those systems will collapse on their own. Mad about paying for it? Be a man and stop paying your taxes. When my home is paid off I have no intention of ever paying then again (I'm self employed also).

>there is no possible way a governing power could/would exploit tax rules to fuck with people and their right to vote

hmm

But that will not happen as long as people taking welfare are also a massive voting block.

There are tonnes of people who shouldn't vote
Why should childless people vote? They don't have a stake in the country's future
Why should people on welfare vote? They obviously will vote for more handouts?
Why should women vote? They repeatedly vote to make the government their perpetual doting-father figure
Why should immigrants vote? Their vote lessens the value of native's votes
Why should anyone who doesn't pay taxes vote? Why should they get a say in the way money they don't contribute to gets spent?
Why should the ignorant vote? They vote for the pettiest reasons
Why should I vote? I'm a fucking leaf!

Not tax rules brainlet, I was referring to welfare.

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>government decides to use IRS to hobble your income and seize your assets so that you make no money
>you must now go on welfare
>you have no recourse since anyone who advocates for you faces the same and none of you can vote
>you are now a bitch


its a stupidfucking idea just because it will incentivize th egovernment to put problematics on welfare

I have been pushing the 'net taxpayer' thing for a while. You don't need to limit it to one vote per household explicitly. Women are not net taxpayers on average. Besides, explicitly limiting votes creates household tension and huge pushback from womens groups. The whole point is to keep families together.

are you saying if the job creators don't create jobs in my city we should lose the vote?

>relying on others to create jobs
Create your own job fuckhead. Find a service or product that is needed and fill that need. Capitalism is pretty awesome.

That's a good point, but one could always have safeguards against that by having upper limits on tax rates and how much the IRS can seise from you.

yes. It should.

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>as insurance if you ever become unemployed
or you know you could learn some financial responsibility and not spend all the money you get like a nigger and save some for an emergency. but who wants that? just tax everyone because you're and irresponsible nigger

>democracy
>restricting people from voting
choose one or go back to 1788

they could be brainwashed or just stupid I guess

All very good reasons, and very sensible things to do.

Universal sufferage is universal suffering because it lowers society to the lowest common denominator (base things like sex drugs and rock and roll)

welfare prevents chimp outs

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What state do you live in, and what form of "welfare" are you talking about?

I don't think you understand how limited public assistance is both monetarily and in terms of time it's available.

Moron, women could not vote in the USA till 1928.

People talk about welfare all the time. Apart from retirement pensions, unemployment subsidies that some might have after losing their jobs (for which you must have worked some years and doesnt last forever) and some minor fees way smaller than minimum wage for people in absolute poverty and indigence, what fucking handouts do your countries have at all? Specially america (the country strikes me as being libertarian AF).

California. I'm talking about the welfare single mothers get.

Single mothers get a lot of welfare.

Ill pay for welfare if I get a free waifu

maybe OP just has a martyr complex.
maybe he'll work his ass off for the rest of his life for the extra couple hundred bucks and think of himself as a working class hero.

Welfare and voting should only be given to those with a us passport. And no dual passports.

We're all cucked by the welfare jew.

Google usa welfare cliff

Jews take so much

i think this is a great idea.
children are taken care of by their parents, in a way the family unit is a form of socialist welfare.
the parents pay the bills, make all the decisions, and the kids follow the rules and don't have a vote in family matters.
it would also motivate those on welfare to get off welfare, so that they could become an adult and vote.

it would also destroy the democrat voter base, so expect push back from them.

Wealthy people shouldn't be allowed to vote either. They'll always vote for tax breaks while taking advantage of loopholes

Too much, and always want more. Land of diminishing returns.

>And no dual passports.
Hard to believe that so many sit in congress, judges etc.

This is on wiki
>the SNAP-eligible gross monthly income is $1,245 or less for an individual

You faggots are socialist lool.

We wuz kangz!!!

or maybe OP thinks anyone shitter them him shouldn't vote.

weren't only land-owners originally allowed to vote? seems the slope slipped the other way

>Why should people on welfare not lose their right to vote?
Because the two have nothing to do with each other.

Because it opens the door for further restrictions.

Drugs help.

Nice. Saved. Will distribute

Another remark: I tried finding the other day what was the occupation of Richard Spencer in order to know what he does for a living (apart from far right donations) and some articles said that the faggot was receiving land subsidies just for owning thousands of acres in literal cotton fields (lol). Just like that scheme that the British aristocracy does in order to get money from plebs.
The absolute state lol!

Why are people who cannot afford to take care of themselves allowed to force children into this world?

NO FREE PRIZES UNLESS IT STERILIZES

>*of literal cotton fields

part of the problem is that welfare is not straightforward at all but taylored towards certain classes of people which effectively incentivises those classes. in australia you can get virtually unlimited handouts by submitting ten shitty CV's to the same jobs every fortnight.

that fucking guy

Read again you dumb fuck. It's part of my point that back then only part of the population could vote

yes. Dual passports are totally crazy.

You mean people vote for keeping their money.

Getting welfare before sterilization is nonsense

If you cant take care of yourself, you cant take care of a kid

>Because the two have nothing to do with each other.
No. You can vote for more welfare.

Every single one of those is true and I'm okay with.

You can force more beings into this world while having no way to provide for them

Sterilize before giving gibs

I'm all for sterilisation as a precondition for welfare.

except how is it in the governments interest to keep people on the public dole? Nobody wants to give you fucking money.

Lol. If you shit out a kid you get money for life basically.
My sister is 40 years old. She had a job once when she was 19 - for like 4 months. Somehow she's managed to keep up a smoking habit for her whole life though, and always had a roof over her head and not starving. Has a smartphone. A car.

NEETs are the tragic heroes of the modern west. While you keep working for Israel, they fight against the system.

>except how is it in the governments interest to keep people on the public dole?
It's not.

It's in the tyrant's interest to keep people from being free.

>I work hard bcoz I'm too stupid not to
FTFY

Because voting is for retards.

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