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Can Jiren beat his western version?

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Nah,the original is more powerfull.

>Star level at best vs Universe Buster
Oh I wonder

Why are all western comics the same stonefaced muscleman style?

Plutonian was way beyond the Star level

Because you are a fag weeaboo.

Fuck outta here. One is a high end matter manipulator and the other is a universe buster. More like their power dicks will make that ass "full."

Say that to my face.

Faggot, learn to fucking use your underwear right before i pick you with a sharp bone

>yfw the 1-hour special failed hard at ratings

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Reminder that nobody watched the special.

>barely able to beat Yo-kai watch
Fucking why

>Ultra Instinct vs Ayylmao gets BTFO by karate rabbitman
Fucking hell. This is the best Super has offered so far and the time slot is basically a guillotine now.

Feels good. Fuck Super.

>Solar Supercharge: Superman Prime remained in Earth's sun for 15,000 years, increasing his abilities to unknown but presumably immeasurable levels--he is known to dwarf the might of even the massively powerful Kal Kent, who is himself more powerful than the gravitational pull of a collapsing star and is multiple times faster than the speed of light.
>Power Bequeathment: Superman Prime is noted as being capable of sharing a portion of his power with his descendants, this fraction alone itself being a degree of power "far beyond any held by any metahumans ever"[1] (though tying them inextricably to the Super-Sun that Prime inhabits as the source of their powers).
>Immortality: Superman Prime has not visibly aged since the late 20th/early 21st century.

Sorry, Kirby.

And Jiren is thousands if not hundreds of thousands of times stronger than the original SSG Goku we saw fight Beerus and almost end the universe.
100 Percent Freeza on Namek was probably a Large Star Buster. Try harder capefag.

Reminder that Boruto doesn't even place.

>Superman Prime remained in Earth's sun for 15,000 years
he would get skin cancer and died 1 week later. i've read all'star superman
Literaly non canon

I wonder why.

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Picrelated is who you should have posted.

Damn Super. What's going on?

Leave Jiren to Me

Speaking of western shit the theme of jiren vs goku sound familiar
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Super is getting what it deserves.

>lowest rating in the history of super
Based Kamen Rider and Super Sentai.

Noncanon

Through powerscaling, Jiren wins. Without it, he loses

>One of the weakest versions of Superman
>Not even a planetbuster
O shit nigga what are you doing?

>Literaly non canon
So's All Star Superman.

Bad animation is probably not the reason little lids in japan didn't tune in to fuji tv for the special.

That's too OP.

Kamen rider and sentai did worse
2.7 and 2.0
One piece got 4.5 the previous week

its a moot point then

but kirby would get his powers if he eat him

You know nothing about the Plutonian, m8

The problem is that Plutonian is way more versatile, and since his powers don't work off ki, Jiren can't nosell his shit by being more powerful. Plutonian could just teleport a fucking rock into his head. Game over.

not him but you are very bad with proportions and scales. hundreds of thousands lmao

>Noncanon
[citation needed]

Picrelated solos the entire thread with the exception of Bullshit Thought Robot.
Bootleg Super Saiyan is pretty fucking strong.

Meh Jiren's food compared to Supes

Which version is the strongest?

>sunday fucking morning
Gee I wonder fucking why

Nips don't want to change their viewing habits and would rather watch Kamen Rider. Blame Toei, or whoever is the retard in charge of scheduling in Japan. It's the same reason Pink Lupin bombed.

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Marketing tactics, crossovers, and especially a lack of Anthology culture.

Probably because they fucking spoiled almost everything that was going to happen. Imagine if the japs only knew there would be a new form like a week before and they didnt reveal what it looked like. God Toei are fucking stupid.

Yep but they're still the ones that took their ratings down. they would've done so much better.

It's that DB Kai ,the buu arc" aired on that slot and it was going to end and toei wanted to keep riding the DB train as it was 2015 and RoF was coming out so Super was created and kept that slot.

>Kamen Rider/Super Sentai is going to be canceled because of Dragon Ball

FUCKING KEK

Are you kidding? Nips love that shit, they're a bit dated when it comes to viewing habits. They still have TV Guides giving a summary of the episode.

>Pokemon and Yokai nearly beat out Super

Finally the well animated shows are creeping up on it

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Jiren confirmed biggest pile of trash in the history of Shounen.

A bigger failure than Roman Reigns.

It's not TV Asahi's fault. They took a gamble moving Super Hero Time but it clearly paid off for them. Toei got blindsighted by then but it's just kind of shocking that it took 6 weeks for Rider and Sentai to flat-out wreck Super. I think it has something to do with the runtime of the special but only time will tell. Maybe Fuji TV will move Super's timeslot in response if this keeps up.

n-nani!? Thats because true fans streamed it online baka!

Just Clark? Probably Strange Visitor Superman
Thought Robot is some kind of construct so you can't really use him, he's so overpowered he is literally as strong as he needs to be to win and is aware of the fourth wall, the 3D page I posted is him trying to touch the reader.
Strange Visitor is Superman at the end of the time where he decided to fight Heat Death or something and is superior to 5th dimensional imps or something.

>Reigns
>Jiren
Now I'm imagining Jiren finally saying more than 5 words at any given time and he's just cutting a promo about fucking beanstalks.

Beleeb Dat

Could Jiren beat Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania? Reminder that Roman has the Spear, the strongest move in all of wrestling and the sickest mike skills on his side.

I laughed hard at how much of a failure this special was.

>Some weeks pass
>SHT keeps bodying Super
>Fuji TV and Toei decide to move the show to a later timeslot
What happens then?

Same. It was awful. But the fanbase was all but muh nostalgia tho

The animation in that episode was good. The only thing frustrating about that episode was Goku losing to Jiren despite gaining Ultra Instinct.

>DBfags on damage control when Superchad os put against their characters
Even one of the weakest versions of Superman has been fighting against gods for quite some time,only now that Goku is able to fight against gods.

Kek.

Superman can't even beat The Plutonian you superfag

More blood

jiren as it too though, and you just know this last 20 minutes of tuournament time is going for at least 10 episodes imo. also if vegeta gets fucked over again and doesnt get a powerup by the end of the arc im done, he literally trained more then anyone else this time and went chamber of spirit and time twice.

Little Kids are the reason why shows thrive in that timeslot. Little kids are also the main demographic. The special had good animation for the most part. It wasn't perfect but no episode of anything Toei produces will ever be perfect and frankly little kids don't give a shit about bad animation unless it's total shit. I'm talking worse than flash animation. It's time to face facts: Rider and Sentai are killing Super. Plus it probably just ran for too long.

Part of the issue is that they became so damn in consistent with the power levels. At first they tell us that ssgod was like what 80% of Beerus in terms of power. But apparently blue + Kaioken x20 is weak sauce still?

3.5 user. 2.5 is where it will be if this keeps up.

BASED NIPS

Pretty much everything about early Super/the movies got retconned

Ultra Instinct wasn't a power up. It was merely Goku fighting Jiren without thinking about it and letting his body do the work. Sorta like what Urahara was trying to teach Ichigo in Bleach during training.

You are a cancerous little shit

>At first they tell us that ssgod was like what 80% of Beerus in terms of power.
This was only stated in the movie. It got retconned with Super. This is why the suggestion of skipping the early episodes of Super if you've watched Battle of Gods/Resurrection F already should also come with a few disclaimers or at least further suggest that people look up some of the details. A lot of stuff got changed.

Take Super out of the Dragon Ball Super now!

You shut your filthy uneducated mouth.
Here's Superman outrunning the collapse of reality and tearing his way into the 6th dimension (iirc, it's been a while)

At this point they should think of focusing on Universe 6, with Caulifla, Kale and Cabba as MCs

beerus used about 70% of his power to fight goku with SSG but beerus also had the upper hand throughout the entirety of the fight.

>It got retconned with Super
What makes you say that? Toriyama's 6, 10, 15 scale may be the most accurate.

If this is a trend, that is if it continues and is consistently with low ratings, then we should be concerned. This is definitely concerning as they hyped it up so much and this happened but if the toy sales are still good then it may not matter too much to toei.

>they should think of focusing on the universe full of shit character
Kill yourself

Why, what are you going to do? Kill them to death?

good point thats right, let me clarify then that vegeta needs to at least learn a new technique or be able to go ultra instinct as well- most likely the former bc i guess it could be argued that goku fought beerus to goku's max-but then again vegeta did get to train with whis so come on give him something. back to jiren, i think he has ultra instinct for sure bc of the way he reacted to gokus first UI kick and how he reacted to hit trying to pull a nig

that shit happened with one piece too...

Jiren is just really, really fast

the trunks arc had the best ratings out of super ,no?

Because it was legitimately changed. There's a hard number in Battle of Gods for gauging Beerus' output. That number is 70%. The Super version of this scene simply has Whis say Beerus wasn't using all of his power. It seems small but it changes everything because now there's nothing to scale the potential remainder of Beerus' power with. Toriyama's scale is probably fine but that's word of God and we're discussing what happened in the movie and anime arc.

Yes.

Where is that retard that said the Universe Survival Arc saved Super?

Fuck off, shill.

Probably traumatized after seeing that 3.5

I mean, it was getting pretty good ratings with some consistency from what I saw. TV Asahi changing the timeslot for Super Sentai and Kamen Rider is what's fucking Super over. Super Hero Time has some pretty strong shows this season, it seems like the overlap in target audience tipped over in favor of tokusatsu over anime.

>It's not TV Asahi's fault.
It is their fault. Rider and Sentai have been failing in ratings in their timeslot for the past few years. It's even resulted in Asahi crawling for more power and the Asahi producer now being declared the chief producer. And now they want to change it up and compete with other news programs so they bumped off SHT.

>it clearly paid off for them.
Going to need to see numbers. The numbers I've seen show a drop for SHT ratings too, but granted for now i'm not entirely convinced of their accuracy

Phantom King says hi

Vegeta can't learn Ultra Instinct because he thinks to much. If he's not trying to think of a way to beat the enemy, Vegeta's thinking about his kids future. The closest thing Vegeta came to displaying instinct was back in the Frieza Saga.

Episode 47, yes the very first ep did

They didn't take it down, they split the viewerbase.

When this "Who again" kill death,punch reality,Fix a tear in the fabric in the universe,survive the colapse of the universe or just become a god,then we can talk.

>Doesn't know that Superman Prime literally kills someone after killing this person
>The guy who punched reality
He is very well know for his words.

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Gohan Blanco the Superman character

The average rating of the Black arc as a whole was around 6.3, which is higher than any episode from the universal survival arc.

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