Adolescence is idolizing UBW Shirou

Adolescence is idolizing UBW Shirou

Adulthood is realizing that Heaven's Feel Shirou makes more sense

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Fate without shirou is garbage desu

I LOVE SHIROU SO MUCH

So you didn't grow up?

And making threads like this is childhood

Adulthood is realizing that Shiki makes more sense

>Shirou
>Making any sense at all

UBW
- had guts to stick to his guns.
- his mind was clear and nothing could bend his will.
- his perseverance and dedication to do what is right gave him victory and survived until the end.
HF
- got weak on the knees because he got love-struck by a girl and threw away his dignity.
- his mind got clouded and was not able to judge rationally.
- he died because he let his emotions get the best of him.

> Insanity: Doing the exact same thing and expecting a different outcome

UBW Shirou was medically insane.

Rin and Sakura are shit. Saber is the best.

The whole point of UBW is Shirou changing his mindset without losing sight of his goals. He doesn't abandon his ideals or his dream, just merely takes a more healthy, different approach.

Doing the exact same thing and expecting a different outcome would be Fate Shirou.

HF has best girl too.

I like it.

Adulthood: Realizing best girl never got a route.

Why would I idolize something that "makes more sense".

I would Idolize the ideal, no not even that. I'd idolize someone who goes ahead and strives for said ideal, despite it being impossible. The world is fucked. does that mean people should stop trying to make it a better place?

>expecting a different outcome

You missed the point of UBW. By the end, he wasn't expecting any outcome, at least not in the form of "saving everyone". He accepted that the mundane act of saving people, being a hero, in the path to the impossible ideal of "saving everyone" is the whole reason he chose to strive for said ideal in the first place.

If the act of striving for the ideal itself is the one that fulfills you, you don't really need to reach it. The whole "it's the journey, not the destination" thing, doubly so here, since the destination doesn't exist.

I agree, Kotomine deserved a proper route.

Why should I idealize the Shirou that was ok with thousands of innocents dying because his waifu couldn't contain herself? I like my Shirou insane and wanting to save everyone, thank you.

Godhood is realizing that Fate Shirou is best boy.

>G-Girls must not fight!
>Best boy

Why are they so perfect?

No, adulthood is to stop watching or playing Fateshit.

>Wanting Girls to fight.
>Not protecting your waifu.

The justice autists can have each other. Pic related is the true OTP of FSN.

> Kojirou's route never

>being a fucking white knight

Babying your waifu when she is ten times stronger than you and saves your ass on the regular is fucking pathetic.

>All of them are GREAT! ;_;
S-Sakura is for Shirou
R-Rin is for Archer
S-Saber if for Gil

You can't blame Shirou for that. He may be an autistic ginger manlet, but he is still Japanese after all.

They're all for Shinji, silly.

Medea would ditch him for Saber the moment she gets the chance

Nah, OP.

Adolecence is thinking that HF is the best because it is "dark and edgy"

Patricans appreciate UBW and Fate more since their message is more positive.

>;_;
Kill yourself fucking imbecile

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What are you talking about? No one likes shirou.

did you mean slut girl.

>Babying your waifu when she is ten times stronger than you and saves your ass on the regular is fucking pathetic.
Implying Saber wouldn't be done without Shirou.
>Protects her from Berserker
>Protects her for Gilgamesh
>Reinspires her ideals.
>Is her sheath making him better than Excalibur.

Shinji truly is the best boy.

I know right? All of Shirou's accomplishments couldn't have been possible if it wasn't for his best bud Shinji, and what thanks does he get? Absolutely nothing. And people dare think Shinji is the terrible one!

> is her sheath
What did user mean by this?

>Till death do us apart.
youtube.com/watch?v=JMXyaTR4SqI
There is no shame in crying! :-(

Please stop breathing. It will do everyone in this thread a huge favor. Thanks.

Sakura and Shirou does not have a "nose".

Shinji route when?

I played the VN and couldn't stand Shirou. Then I watched UBW and I could stand him even less. Then I decide for once to enter a Fate thread on Sup Forums and a lot of "people" loved him.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are 14, because if someone older than 16 likes a character like that, it's a severe case of manchild.

Not soon enough.

True patricians know that Shinji is the actual protagonist of the Fate series who lets himself get overshadowed by minor characters like Shirou so they could get their time in the spotlight.

It's really a shame he didn't get to wear his pimp jacket in the HF movie.

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Do you want Shinji to have all of them, including the boys?

Shinji's humbleness knows no bounds as he knows wearing such magnificent attire would take attention away from the other characters.

But of course! Shinji deserves nothing less after all he's been through.

Are they inside Gil's GoB?

Nope it's Shinji's very own reality marble and everyone's invited!

Means Shirou can protect her from anything.

best couple

you all my niggas

Saber grows back her magic futa dick when she's pissed. I hope you remembered to buy groceries.

>implying shirou would forget to buy groceries or prepare a meal unless someone deliberately sabotaged him
Probably Medea because she'd want to watch.

fuckin' greeks, man.

You think her and Heracles share pornsite links?

It goes deeper: A sheath is what protect a blade from wear, dirt, and so on.

In other words: Shirou keeps Saber 'clean' in contrast to Kiritsugu. Shirou restores her faith in knightly honor.

Also protects her smile.

You all get me.

Heracles is barely coherent enough to buy batteries from a department store. I don't think he would be calm enough to enter an entire URL on a computer.

Alcides could, but I don't really know what kind of porn he'd watch. Probably something blasphemous.

Adulthood is realizing Mind of Steel makes the most sense

>liking "WE WUZ SWORDZ AND SHIET" Shirou

It's actually the other way around

Emiya Alter has nothing to do with Mind of Steel

>Shirou was medically insane.
>thinking quotes and anecdotes are medical diagnoses
truly autistic user

Spics really like him.

>Shirou keeps Saber 'clean' in contrast to Kiritsugu. Shirou restores her faith in knightly honor.
Are you stupid or something? You all are forgetting that Kiritsugu was the one who gave avalon to him. Shirou got lucky that he saved him. He is even the one who inspired him to be a hero. Without him Shirou would be nothing. So don't get cocky and sully his name.

Kiritsugu doing something for Shirou doesn't contradict the fact that he was a shit toward saber user

Why, because he turns brown later on?

I still don't get how Kuzuki beat saber

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Autism and magic charms.

You can idolise and understand two “different people” at once. You do you realise that, right?

Saber's a strong girl. She gets over it.

Obligatory.

>UBW
>was wrong, as proven by the very existence of Archer
>HF
>changed his mind, grew up and won best girl for it

I AM THE BONER OF MY SWORD

>Giving up your ideals for used goods
Heavens feels Shirou is a fool.

Sakura is disgusting

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>muh broken bird meme
Wormfags confirmed for cucks

>muh cuck meme
We-all-know-whofags confirmed for Sup Forums cancer.

Adolescence is pushing your route.

Adulthood is realising that you can take something different away from a story than someone else.

>UBW was wrong, as proven by the very existence of Archer
The existence of Archer does not prove that it it wrong. Archer is not the only CG. He just good a rude awakening when he saw that being a hero was not as he expected it to be. Shirou in UBW, learned that truth while his passion for his ideal was still on its prime so even if he ends up being the Archer, he would not be regretful and unhappy as fate Archer was because he knows before hand what he is going into,.
> HF changed his mind, grew up and won best girl for it
That is just your subjective opinion. The truth is, he gambled for the lives of many against the life of one. That was stupid and irrational in every sense. You cannot honestly say that it was the right thing to do unless you lie to yourself. That is not what real grown ups to. Mature individuals are rational not emotional. It just so happen that it ended with your heroine saved, that is all. Illya, Shinji and even Shirou died. The Shirou that is with her might be appear to be the real Shirou but that is just a flesh puppet possessed by soul. Shirou was crippled both soul and body. he is only alive via magic, he needs someone to feed him mana to live and his soul will degrade overtime. The best escape for that is for him to make a contract with the world and become a CG but I doubt he have the guts to do it.

>Illya
She was going to die either way, being an homunculus. HF was the best possible outcome for her.
>Shinji
Bait?
>even Shirou died. The Shirou that is with her might be appear to be the real Shirou but that is just a flesh puppet possessed by soul.
Rin outright mentions how he's pretty much a human like anyone else. Have you watched Kara no Kyoukai? Touko's "puppets" are perfect copies of human bodies.
>he needs someone to feed him mana to live
And Sakura needs to get rid of excess mana from the grail. Works out perfect for them.
>his soul will degrade overtime
Zouken could keep going for hundreds of years. One or two soul transfers alone won't affect anyone too badly.

Where does Prisma Shiro fall on this?

sasuga user, HF and SakuraxShirou are the biggest canon of Fate universe after all.

This

>rhino went mad
kek, every time

Even Illya supports it.

Adolescence is idolzing UBW Shirou
Adulthood is realizing that F/SN is not even good

No. Yaoi is gross.

Shinji...I don't get why he gets all the hate in Sup Forums. FSN is just written to make him out as the bad guy, when really he's no worse than any of the 'protagonists' and a better person than most of them.

What are the main complaints? He raped Sakura and stole Rider to use in the war?

Okay, let's get this straight. He never fucking raped Sakura. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He fucked Sakura.

Let me ask you this. WHO IN THE GAME DIDN'T FUCK SAKURA? You can't even name one fucking character who hasn't plugged her loose cunt! She is the kind of bitch who will act like she doesn't want it when she really does. She'll say No! while having multiple orgasms. Shinji knew this, he's a fucking ladies man. He knows what filthy whores like Sakura want.

And there's this other big bitch you guys have with him. He supposedly stole Rider and used her in the war for his own greed.

Objection! He was worried about his one and only precious sister. Is keeping your loved ones from a brutal war so wrong? When Shirou does the same thing to Saber it's like 'oh he's so manly', but when Shinji does it it's wrong? He just wanted to protect Sakura. He probably was going to use his Holy Grail wish to tighten her cunt back up or cure her syphilis or something.

The story was written to make that faggot Shirou look good. Objectively, Shinji is a far better character than Shirou. At least he has the balls to take action decisively instead of dicking around like Shirou, and if he weren't stuck with the weak ass servant Rider and no plothax he probably would have won the war.

Where can i find a clear version of this

Why do I love Shinji so much? It's pretty simple when I think about it. Shinji isn't just the best character in the series, he might just be the greatest character of all time. Just imaging him walking through Fuyuki, all the ladies swoon at his very scent. They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold under the the name of "Matou Orgasm." The very nature of Shinji is mystery. could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes? The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit. However, Shinji is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers. Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Shinji is not one that is easily penetrated. Shinji is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world. Shinji is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty. Observe his playful smile, his gourgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes. His eyes, like pools of sapphire, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Shinji. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt. Shinji is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the saga together. Without Shinji, the entire Fate series as we know them crumbles.

These are just of a few of the reasons why I like Shinji so much.

The thing he did in UBW, was seeing but cognitively acknowledging that he has a problem with self-affirmation, and said it was okay to be a machine, which is still not okay. A person who only mechanically follows an ideal is easily fooled into doing dangerous or heinous things.

The point was, that he was on his way to becoming a healthier individual post route, none of the routes has him totally healthy yet. That was what that post game Tiger Dojo was about, past the jokes.

I feel like Nasu wanted to paint Shinji as a villain but then realised after writing Fate and UBW that he's literally just like Shirou except with plot armour to save his stupidity.

>Be born into family of shitty worm-magic
>Your adopted sister is chosen over you to inherit the family magic
>Beg dad to let you participate in the grail war
>Get a weak shitter of a servant
>No real magic training, forced to suck souls to sustain your servant
>Shirou is childhood friend
>Find out he's a master too
>Ask to team up
>He says no
>Ask Rin to team up
>She says no
>Get chased off by Shirou's OP servant
>They chase you down
>Saber one-shots Rider with her NP
>Try to run away
>Get murdered in cold blood by a little girl and a giant wielding a club while fleeing
>Your childhood friend later accepts the little girl into his house and adds her to his harem

SHINJI

HAD

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HARD

LIFE

>HF was the best possible outcome for her.
At least another 6 months living is better than dying. She would have had that time too in UBW if she did not get cocky and faced Gil.
>Bait
Not at all. UBW route was the best route for both Sakura and Shinji. Just look at how cute they are acting all tsunderish.
>Touko's "puppets" are perfect copies of human bodies.
The human Shirou still died and continues to be dead. The most we could say is that the Shirou there only looks human but is not.
>Sakura needs to get rid of excess mana from the grail
She needs to breast feed two mana deficient entities. Yes, two. The human Shirou is already dead. The only thing I find exciting there is their regular threesome session. SakuraXRiderXShirou is something to look forward too.
>Zouken could keep going for hundreds of years
By saying that, you just proved further that the human Shirou is really dead. All we have left is a psuedo-servant Shirou.

Overall, the only good thing in HF is that there are lots of information that has been brought to light and things made clear.

>At least another 6 months living is better than dying.
I'm not sure six months mean all that much compared to dying completely fulfilled. While Shirou accepted Ilya into his house in Fate, it was just a shallow bond where he saw her as a poor little girl and she still kept things secret from him.
>UBW route was the best route for Sakura
>I hope you're having fun in London.jpg
>The human Shirou still died and continues to be dead. The most we could say is that the Shirou there only looks human but is not.
The core of a human in the Nasuverse isn't the body but the soul. The vessel of his soul changing doesn't change the fact that it's his soul. Our cells are completely replaced all the time too, doesn't mean we're different people.
>She needs to breast feed two mana deficient entities. Yes, two.
And her infinite mana ensures she can handle it.
>By saying that, you just proved further that the human Shirou is really dead.
Zouken's issue was that he overused soul transfer and split up his soul into a myriad of worms (terrible choice of a vessel) over hundreds of years. A single transfer into a humanoid vessel won't cause those issues.

Nah, Nasu pretty much says that he was hoisted by his own petard. He avoided the Fate of being a living experiment of Zouken's, yet didn't stop when he saw that his idea that the Matou were pawns of Zouken. He didn't see the forest for the trees, despite Sakura kindly all but telling him to chill out.

Hell, people say he is a ladies man, but the real reason so many girls gather around him is because he flashes his grandpa's cash and takes them to fancy restuarants. Nasu even says that those same girls will forget he even exists come college age. They were pretty much gold-digging, while he thought he was a pimp.

And in that same bit in CM2, he says Sakura would have a much better time if she treated him like trash, so nope, he made everything worse on his own.

He only ever used and abused the two people in pic related, despite them supporting him.