TWP has been getting a lot of shit lately for the all-black uniform, which looks weird and alienating...

TWP has been getting a lot of shit lately for the all-black uniform, which looks weird and alienating. What would be a good replacement uniform?

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Short shorts and FALs

There is no saving them. They are entryists and really need to completely fix themselves. Pic related. The alt right was responsible for the statue being taken down in my town. It wasn't going to get taken down until the alt right supported it.

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>blame the AltRight but not the leftists doing it
Seriously?

Fpbp

Their uniform is fine. These PRcuck shills are just trying to demoralize the right after another street victory.

So, some overly excited whiteys supported something that's been in place for decades, it bunched some nogs' panties, and it's whitey's fault it's being removed?

The way Greg Conte was dressed should be the norm

full white, suits ala Spencer

>that pic.
looks like chubby beardo was caught breaking the matrix. and he moves so quick he put on glasses like a reverse nazi clark kent. the madman. this is a strange timeline indeed.

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>white race is dying out
>"what should our uniforms look like?"

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>What would be a good replacement uniform?
no uniform. They should look like normal people, but that's impossible because they're all white trash retards.

No one cared except a small few with no power. When the riots and shit broke out and it got associated with the wigger NSM, Traditionalist Workers Party, and Spencer it was going to stay up.

anglin and weev are about as inflammatory as it gets, why should they be allowed to sperg out online but the TWP cannot wear all black when being attacked IRL?

It makes no sense

who wears all black? "nazis" "commies" and isis, its fucking retarded

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An Israeli flag is what all controlled opposition should wear

you swallow black penis though

Idk, anything that doesn't fucking scare normies lol.. not that hard

>small changes to improve appearance liken you to a cuckold who lets his wife get gangbanged by niggers

Maybe there's just no hope for TWP at all. This circlejerking and autistic screeching about something so small is unreal.

>complaining about the big bad tough men in NSM and TWP
>blaming the nationalists instead of the left
You should really get your T levels checked bro

Stop wearing uniforms, stop larping.

>hey let's not even try to appeal to anyone. surely this will catch on

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TWP is fine how it is everyone that thinks different is a fucking nigger.

>neither our message nor aesthetic appeals to the majority
>"we should keep the same leadership tho. it'll be fine."

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You and I both know that's not what is going on here. It's an obvious shill campaign.
No matter how many uniform changes the shills are never happy. The white polo and khakis made the shills unhappy. TWPs all black working class clothes made them unhappy. There's nothing you can do to make these fashion obsessed homosexuals to stop whining and demoralizing/causing division. Heimbach and his team has offered multiple times for the FASHionista faggots to go and make their own groups but for at least four to five years they haven't and then blamed their failures on the successful street fighters like Heimbach that do meet these PRcucks halfway all the time.

What TWP needs is to have a really good looking and smart guy to lead it
Chad nationalism is the future

FPBP

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READ

>"When they say "no" to our Swastika and National Socialism, they are only the eternal female saying "no" but meaning, "If you accept my no, then you are a weakling and have no right to my favors. Let us see if you have the manhood and the strength to MAKE me say yes!"
>"They hate us now because we are weak and powerless. All the reason in the world will never make them love us or our ideas in ANY guise, no matter how we try to sugar-coat them, until we COMMAND THEIR RESPECT AND ADMIRATION FOR OUR WILL, our guts, our force! As stupid as they are, their instincts in smelling force and strength are still pure, and the attempt to SNEAK National Socialist ideas in the guise of "patriot leagues" and other nice, safe groups very properly repulses them as being the actions of cowards and sneaks."
>"To HELL with the sneaky, safer approaches! They get us persecuted every bit as much as the direct, open approach, and they doom us to miserable, sneaking failure every time. If we are to be the last of the White men who conquered the world; if we are finally to be overwhelmed by a pack of rats, let us at least face the death of our race as our ancestors faced their death---like MEN. Let us not crawl down amongst the rats begging for mercy or trying to out-sneak them and pretend to be rats ourselves!"
George Lincoln Rockwell

>"In those days I took up the standpoint that it was immaterial whether they laughed at us or reviled us, whether they depicted us as fools or criminals; the important point was that they took notice of us and that in the eyes of the working-classes we came to be regarded as the only force capable of putting up a fight. I said to myself that the followers of the Jewish Press would come to know all about us and our real aims. "
Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler

Forget about the dress.
We need to divide labour, normal guys have to work to go to, family to provide for, we can't all goose step larping as nazis, that comes later, but some can, I say let them.
Lightly red pill normies, about muzzies maybe and how dangerous Islamisation can be, if we're censored, good, if we're free to spread our message, good. (Milo, Lauren Southern tier content), then red pill some more, i.e race and IQ, low and high time preference (Molymeme maybe), which then leads to fashier content, and then more fashier, and before you know it, you're unironically listening to Mr. Bond.
I say this because this is what happened to me. I thought I would never become the way I am now, and I'm warming to NatSoc ideology. Not completely, but I'm a couple more steps from it.

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Agree with all this.
But consider the brainwashing society has gone through and that when you go the open route with Swastika raised, the People still reject the message because of the symbolism. There should be a middle-ground between cucking and trying to go 100% without convincing the masses of first your message.

Then Heimbachs working class clothes and pitchfork/cogwheel is for you.

If the concern is appealing tyo Normie's then I have to tell you the only thing normies hate worse than Nazis is Nazis that are lying or trying to sneak around it.

>Then Heimbachs working class clothes and pitchfork/cogwheel is for you.
Why? They don't have a message and I don't believe they're NatSocs. They do have terrible leadership and terrible optics tho. Here's an example of my reasoning in practice:

Why should we replace the American flag with the Swastika?

>Someone says we should change appearance
>he must mean leadership

No one knows who your leaders are, so you can keep them.


I'm thinking though that this whole politics thing is too complex for TWP and that you shouldn't actually do anything anymore. Just stay home.

Their banners say "100% Nationalist, 100% Socialist"
>MUH optics

Re-read

Yeah because Rockwell's American Nazi movement succeeded right?


This is what happens when you stay in the same echo chamber and circlejerk yourselves to Nazi imagery 24/7

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>I'm thinking though that this whole politics thing is too complex for TWP
prbly. TWP leadership runs that group so it will fail and look retarded. (((They))) are leading the white resistance movements to prevent real uprising.

Why should we replace the American flag with the Swastika? Swastika is the symbol representing National Socialism as a political system. So..? Or maybe we can have NatSoc without the symbolism at least until we first convince the masses to accept the philosophy.

The Council of Conservative Citizens failed too despite being "good optics" American nationalists in business suits

>good optics movements failed a few times so we should go out in the street dressed like Nazi blackshirts

Seriously faggot?

It was the most successful out of every right wing group at the time.
Moreso than the John Birch Society even and they had massive funding.

Good OPTICS is punishing your enemies and putting fear in them. It isn't putting on some faggot fashion show

I don't think TWP actually cares about winning a culture war or making any actual impact.

I think TWP's only desire is to larp. So youre not going to get anywhere talking to them about greater strategy.. And they're obviously going to vehemently oppose anything that infringes on their ability to larp. So all of this autistic screeching about optics makes sense

Literally the only ones screeching are the PRcucks whining about shirts.
Get out of here shill, here's your (you)

>These movements were so successful 99% of people have never even heard of them

>good optics is nazi imagery because it makes your enemies super scared


Unreal

How about dis frens:

anytime you fly the Swasktia you must, by law, fly the native flag of your country? If you wear a Swastika patch you must also wear an American flag patch.

???

People who think Nazi optics are bad are just PRcuck shills guys!!! Keep sieg heiling!!
You faggots can't even win over the rest of the alt right... I don't believe that you HONESTLY think you're going to make an impact on the culture as a whole.... Hope this larping is fun

>No matter how many uniform changes the shills are never happy
Yes, because no matter what you're wearing you are clearly persona non gratas, white trash. You fucking people are repulsive to other WN, I can't even imagine what normal people think of when they see you. They quite literally think nigger lives matter are better than you, even if they hate them. Fat fucking idiots.

FUCKING THIS.


TWP are literal trailerpark untermenschen and deserve the gas just as much as the people they despise.

Cringed and disregarded out of hand. TWP has done good work.

Nice strawman shill

Low energy
Hail Hitler, kike

but they are out there on the front lines, you are welcome to start your own group if you disapprove of their methods.

All whites are hated for their skintone, changing their wardrobes and putting on a fashion show will not change that.

>TWP has done good work
lmao, according to who? You? Heimbach? You faggots are absolutely repulsive to whites in the middle that are up for grabs. You've always done more harm than good. I don't even know how this is up for debate.
>MUH WHITE LIVES MATTTERRR
Subhuman niggers, the lot of you.

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>All whites are hated for their skin tone
>Race is just skin tone

You're a fucking idiot

Your movement needs better leaders, no way in hell im going to fall in and take orders from Matt Heimbach or Jew Spencer

You type like antifa

then start your own group, no one is stopping you

>y-you're antifa
>y-you're just a shill!

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Good study. You still type and act like antifa.

This
Seriously someone please replace Spencer I hate the guy

Fuck off Anglin you fucking control freak

Punch a commie
The all black uniform is fine it distinguish two from Patriot front.

Where's the strawman

We have our own groups and you're fucking them up

>muh Antifa
kys dipshit
Spencer is infinitely better than anything TWP has to offer, but the example to follow and abide by is Jared Taylor.

TWP doesn't want to attract normies they want radicals. We already have normie friendly groups like IE

>groups are failures
>DA NAZI LARPERS DID THIS
Literal nigger logic

just ditch the black and the god damn arm bands challenge yourself a little bit in the morning with some colours,
other than that i dont know matt , maybe eat less shit and look better, i dont know.

They need to kick more ass. Sends a good message.

>TWP doesn't want to attract normies
Evidently, you dumbfucks are too oblivious to understand you push whites away from racial consciousness as a whole. You're walking white guilt initiators. You faggots aren't "radical", you're just white trash.

>I hate the man whose policies I mostly agree with for fighting the people that hate me and making them do sooner what they would gave done inevitably.

TWP, peace be upon them, is not the source of your woes. The jews are.

KEK BOY ASSANGE GUNNA GET THAT HEAD SHOT. HES A DECEITFUL RED COMMUNIST!

No you guys are failures. Our groups are doing just fine

Lmao no they don't. Did skinheads stop you from being redpilled? Did skinheads stop anyone else here from being redpilled? For me when I first started out I knew about the existence of skinheads and because of that the "suit and tie" white nationalists appealed to me more. TWP existing moves the overton window and lets groups like IE get cuckservatives by saying "see we're not radical like those guys "

Was considering this earlier today...I seem to remember some Nord movement, they were wearing standard business attire: Black pants, white shirt, black tie, + shields/flags.

"Jews look huwhyte to me" Taylor?
Fuck off PRcuck. He's an old fart philo Semite that tried to "control" the right wing trolls and get them to play nice with antifa.

This. All the shills need to stfu and join a faggot group like IE.

They're always going to blame their failures on the "Nazis"
It happened in Rockwell's time. They get jealous of their success despite them being openly tough and national socialist and come up with conspiracies and blame them for their waning groups.

Can you email that to Heimbach? I've unironically have told him to lose weight and even offered to exercise with him. He's a husky Bavarian German, he'd get fucking YUGE if he did lift.

This

you sound like the fags who, during gamergate, fought like hell to soften the message for normie consumption....

>Did skinheads stop you from being redpilled?
They didn't exist when I was redpilled, without Jared Taylor, the leap would've taken much longer and been much harder.
> TWP existing moves the overton window and lets groups like IE get cuckservatives by saying "see we're not radical like those guys "
This is coming from the exact people who say, "Antifa's actions are driving everyone into the arms of the right". Do you not see the irony? Don't you realize you're doing the same for WN?

>"its the Nazis fault our PRcucking hasn't worked for 100 years!"

NMR

nordic resistance movement

>The enemy is leading us
>just be an individual

divide and conquer, folks

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Antifas actions are good. They're driving people to the right because they're crumbling the middle ground and opening the door to political violence NOT because they look weird. They polarize people and get people off the fence.

Because they are. It's a shill campaign to attack the right wing and get us to turn on these men for fighting antifa instead of letting them energize us and encourage more of us to fight. Instead of celebration they tie us up arguing stupid shit.

>implying not nazi larping is cucking.


Even by your own retarded logic you're wrong hahahahaha. No movement that has ever succeeded in history has ever been won by dressing up in costumes representing extremely negative shit to the people.


This is like arguing that you're going to convert Christians by dressing up as Satan.

White shirts look weird in America, especially to the demographic TWP wants to appeal to (rural working class whites)

Worked for the Jews. They managed to get Christians to love them even though they should be hating them.

Heimbach and his crew dress like white working class men and want to attract white working class men. They do.
If you want some faggot fashion show go join IE and quit crying about the shirts some guys wear while they fucking sumo wrestle antifa

Who the fuck cares about this shit? It doesn't have a swastika on it, so it's inconsequential. The uniforms aren't going to bring people in, and as long as it's otherwise neutral, it's not going to turn people away.

There is no secret sauce to bring in people. Just don't cuck on the message.

>"Jews look huwhyte to me" Taylor?
And here it is. >le Jared Taylor is controlled op may may. You fucking niggers are the worst and you'll be excluded from the ethnostate in the future. You think I'm talking shit, but I'm telling you exactly what's going to happen. You're failure to adhere to an acceptable set of standards will ultimately help lead to policy never being changed on the federal level. This means that everything is just going to go on as planned, but there'll be more white flight to the midwest. You niggers wont be able to afford moving to the last white zone in the US, and the policies there will be altered to reflect white racial consciousness. It'll be comprised of NORMAL white people, while you can goose step around in your dickies surrounded by niggers and spics, you deserve nothing less.
>They're always going to blame their failures on the "Nazis"
>It happened in Rockwell's time
Rockwell was a failure in any which way you cut it, ANSP never reached over a couple hundred members.
>gamergate
Maybe this is why you faggots are so incompetent, you think "gamergate" and ethics in videogame journalism are in any way relevant or applicable. You're a fucking joke.

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Are you actually retarded?? The message was already as soft as baby shit with gamergate. In contrast, this is literally as extreme as any political movement can possibly get you fucking retard.

All we ask is that you don't dress and act like Nazis. HOW FUCKING HARD IS THAT??? WHY SUCH VEHEMENTLY OPPOSITION TO IT??


As I said before, you people don't actually care. All you want to do is larp. The larp is the only thing that matters to you

This photo is a modern art piece

Skinheads definitely existed while you were being redpilled, especially as caricatures in TV and film. Also I'm not asking for the destruction of friendly looking racists, everyone plays a pivotal role. Besides what antifa does is radicalize cuckservatives which in reverse means that TWP radicalized shitlib anti-racist SJW's, and we don't really care about those traitors do we?

Here's NRM wearing all black which apparently is a bad look yet these people praise them

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>All we ask is that you don't dress and act like Nazis.

yeah, andrew anglin and weev, the most inflammatory dudes on our side, are now asking that the message be softened

fuck off

Don't have uniforms. Do what Identity Evropa does, just look good and presentable. You don't need a complete loadout. Look at the progress European Identitarians are making and follow them.

>its user completely strawmans two arguments in one post episode
wow imagine my shock.
Go back to your old geezer Jew lover. At least he's suing twitter

Yeah because white working class men wear armbands and dress up like Nazi blackshirts.

Literal untermenschen. Logic has no effect

That's what He's saying you Autist.


You know when your optics are too extreme for Anglin that you have a problem.. No one wants to be around you

>Go back to your old geezer Jew lover
Like I said, surrounded by niggers and spics, exactly where you belong.

This.
It was so weird that it came out of nowhere. I remember Anglin even saying NSM guys looked like bros.
Anglin flipped his message and totally went to some where area I was not expecting. I wonder about the guy.

it was sarcasm you dumbshit

Well that makes sense. Autists are known for not being very good at sarcasm

Cool story. Keep PRcucking like the right wing always have. The only "ethnostate" you're gonna get is American version of white squatter camps they have in SA.

probably some personality conflict with heimbach, idk, they should just take it to a debate behind closed doors as this is giving ammo to the left

Why the identitarians? What have they done? Why not successful NatSoc movements like Golden Dawn or NRM?

are you retarded?