What's your stance on his 'REEE CLEAN YOUR ROOM' philosophy? Haven't really made my mind up on it yet. On one hand he comes across as a defeatist 'keep your head down' proponent, on the other hand this philosophy can ring true in some cases. One example being those two Floridian kids sperging out about gun control.
Thoughts?
TL, DR:Peterson is a zionist shill trying to prevent the whites from becoming tribal, thus stoping them from rising up and ending their genocide.
Jordan has some solid advice, I know there are some that hate him because he dodges the jq. But honestly I can't blame him for not wanting to ruin his career right now.
Seems plausable. He does indirectly (maybe directly, not too sure) target young, white males with his teachings. It's quite odd that he hauls the defeatest attitude onto them.
JP is my daddy, he is right about keeping my room clean.
His message is aimed at soyboys and beta males who are suffering from the psychological consequences of still under the marxist illusion of entitlement and dependence from the state.
When a man is not self reliant, has no sense of duty or greater purpose, has no family to provide for and does not take pride in himself, he will become mentally broken and despair.
Peterson knows most of the soyboys and betas are under this spell and his message is aimed at them. That is my take on it. His message runs off of me like water because he is simply reiterating the mantra that was taught to me as a child by my father, as every child should be.
Yeah he's very much a father figure to generation single mother
Jordan Peterson is a positive voice in the world. He promotes personal responsibility and gave me, personally, a foundation of understanding through which I could become a faithful Christian.
He pisses off the white nationalist types because he is counter to those white nationalist's beliefs that they are victims of contemporary society. In reality the white nationalists have been infected with the victim complex pathology which has its roots in Judaism.
Cleaning my room somewhat has mentally helped me out. I mean it’s not just that it’s that life is shit, but my apt’s a mess and I’m clearing it out.
A. The Jewish supremacy problem is real and it must be confronted directly. Past attacks on jews cannot justify their advancement of white genocide today, if it is okay for them to do so, Christians have every right to kill all jews today for killing Jesus Christ 2018 years ago.
B. 2% of the US population cannot control 90% of all media and 12% of congress and the SCOTUS.
C. Jews are Nepotistic, Arrogant, Ururers, Greedy, Holohoax rent seeking, Tribal, and Yids steal land. N.A.U.G.H.T.Y - so they deserve what they get as a consequence of the their actions.
He's pretty much the opposite of "keep your head down". He literally advocates for bearing as much personal responsibility as you can to develop your character.
True, he encourages growth by getting out of ones comfort zone
He's good at getting lost young men out of the gutter and dropping babby's first redpills, but after that people should stop watching him because he doesn't actually have much to say. The cult of personality around him is kind of creepy and sad at this point.
He should stick to psychology and self improvement philosophies, because his political stances outside of free speech and anti-equality of outcome are just muddled and incoherent.
Like it or not he's a gateway for dissilusioned young men into right wing thought, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
>It's quite odd that he hauls the defeatest attitude onto them.
a big red flag right there.
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I am tired of people demanding white perfection before we demand a end to anti-white policies and institutions. Did anyone ask all niggers to stop murdering, being ignorant, get jobs, and ceasing to rape before they were given preferential, legally enforced privileges in admissions, hiring, advancement, government contracts, housing, and welfare? I have another idea...White rights now, end of anti-white discrimination and wealth transfer now, white improvement tomorrow, if at all.
Yes the man who says you should remove your children from classes that expose them to Marxist indoctrination is a kike shill. Fuck off.
This. His 'message to school shooters' is genuinely profound. My dad never told me these types of things, even though he was around. At many times, I feel that he is speaking directly to me.
The amount of anti-Peterson shilling lately is suspicious. He’s literally babbies first red pill and there’s nothing wrong with his earlier lessons. Basic principles like taking responsibility for yourself, setting goals, and taking pride in yourself are absolutely basic principles that every young person needs to have instilled in them. Sadly most don’t as the rate of single mother households has skyrocketed. It’s fascinating to watch JIDF try and say that Peterson telling neckbeards to take a shower and groom themselves is a Jewish trick.
>'REEE CLEAN YOUR ROOM' philosophy
If that's all you got from listening to him you're a fucking brainlet.
this is completely wrong.
he's interesting because of the highly publicized situations he's been in in canadian academia and news media and how well-equipped he is to handle himself when he's catching flak for reasons that have brought down others in similar situations, some of which he even addresses at various points. his self-help is completely and utterly irrelevant, which is probably why it's brought up so much here because if people were to pay attention to the important stuff they'd be better equipped to handle face-offs against leftist nutbags in academia and the media.
After listening to a few hours of his stuff it seems he just tells you life is better when you like yourself and have something to live for over and over in different ways
Saved and will share.
I came to this same conclusion a long time ago.
He is a control rod, meant to Damp down white male response to bring genocided. Further divide and conquer. Keep them docile until they can be culled.
Are you fucking high?
this
You got subverted, it's actually other way around. Paterson literally redpilled the whole generation.
Simple. Can do no harm. Go start for lost souls
How is he a proponent of "keep your head down"
He constantly talks about how successful people are "disagreeable" and how if you want to be successful you have to follow suit
Its one of the main reasons he claims women aren't as successful because they aren't as disagreeable as men "typically" are
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>How is he a proponent of "keep your head down"
I regularly hear him preach the messages along the lines of 'clean your room', 'gain experience', 'get a job', 'raise a kid' when referring to people trying to impact the world. He is dismissive of their attempts due to lack of 'life experience' and lack of self care when they may not be relevant at all.
yo hes turning into mr lahey from trailer park boys
Peterson is a god send, he's helping out thousands of young men take responsibility, mainly men who have daddy issues (like me :/). I don't care he's a Zionist shill and honestly I don't think he is, I don't go to Peterson to get redpilled on the Joos, heck I don't watch him for politics, I watch him for motivation and offering perspective on how I can improve my own life (and sometimes for his archetypal breakdown and analysis of movies and literature).
I don't get why people are hating on Peterson, he doesn't want to be too political and dealing with the Jewish Question to much would be career suicide. Peterson doesn't want to fall into a trap where he can be painted as a nazi in the media. He wants to help young men and earn some sheckels.
Again that sounds like "sort your shit out" not "keep your head down"
He is simplistic yet efficient and his approach to gender insanity it's probably the most mainstream digestible so far.
>'clean your room', 'gain experience', 'get a job', 'raise a kid'
How is this "keep your head down"
redpilled them on the Jewish question? I don't think so.
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All he is saying, clean your room', 'gain experience', 'get a job', 'raise a kid' only means "keep being a good goy for the meatgrinder", "don't shake the boat", etc. When I will see him adress the JQ, or even allude at it (globalism, multi national corporations, immigration, bankers, etc) then and only then I will praise him. I much prefer Pewdiepie for his silly goofs and slight redpills then this intelectual cuck Peterson.
Take a look around dude. There are plenty of professors just like Peterson here in Canada that all espouse the same beliefs. Peterson is good friends with a professor at UNB named Jordan Goldstein. They're all "Hyper-Individualists"
Before my twitter got banned I had a lot of arguments with both Peterson and Goldstein, they are 100% Marxist. Marxism relies FIRST on the complete break down of identity, the idea that you can be "repersoned" by living purely as an individual without any collective ties (IE: Race, Nation, Religion ETC) is exactly what the communists used the "Useful Idiots" to accomplish. It was the period of deconstruction and demoralization of the "individual" by stripping away all identity from said "individual" only to inundate them with the "identity of the group" later.
If you look at what these professors are doing, they mirror the pre-Soviet "Socialist" movements almost to a T.
Peterson wants you to drop out of Marxist courses and take HIS Marxist courses through his online university that he's trying to fund
does peterson eat shellfish?
i do think some people should be defeated so the message doesn't bother me.
most people aren't going to be elon musk or bill gates, and weird dreams and lethargy surrounding some weird abstract job you're "going to create" for yourself is absolutely wasteful.
People should really gain some introspective in their own lives and try to build themselves up again into something productive, social, responsible, etc , instead of trying to rework the entire world to suit them (it will never happen).
Clean your room user, it will make you happier.
t. somebody who tried
Where does your response stack up? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Is it any coincidence that Peterson fanboys react EXACTLY like Feminists, Marxists, BLM, SJWs do when their cult bullshit is questioned? But because Peterson isn't an SJW he's somehow immune to being wrong.
Peterson fanboys react just like the Left Wing. I just spent the last 2 months on twitter arguing with them daily, I can spot the bullshit a mile away.
my stance is
> IT"S EITHER THE CHAN OR CLEAN MY ROOM I DON"T HAVE THE TIME REEEEEEE]
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If you want to fix the world's problems, you have to start by fixing your own. Clean your room. Lift. Read great books. Get your relationship with your family in order, and your friends. Get a job. Work hard.
So many people were never taught this.
You're retarded, you only care about Jews, I think you're obsessed. He's gotten a book on the JQ not to long ago at one of his speaks. He already has addressed the JQ once, I think he's creating a strategy and researching for future responses. He's a clinical-psychologist, why do you go to him for redpills on the Jews, are you mentally retarded?
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>individualism
>redpilled
No
If he's a clinical psychologist why is he rambling on about things which do not pertain to clinical psychology?
If expecting him to address the matter of the Jews is unrealistic because he is merely a clinical psychologist then him addressing anything which is not clinical psychology is also unrealistic.
>He already has addressed the JQ once
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Yeah, he sure did. And he concluded that Jews are good for the goyim... he earned his shekels alright. And so did you shill. Nice shaming language by the way, with no sources and all.
Better version: webmshare.com
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The only time and place to start anything is right here and right now.
Get your shit together, then your family, then your extended family and friends, then your community.
> deconstruction and demoralization of the "individual" by stripping away all identity from said "individual" only to inundate them with the "identity of the group"
That, the Marxists did. JP is not really doing this in a sense. He's not really asking to strip your individuality when he said to stick to your traditions (the 'rescue your father' bit). I think he's saying that the culture that spawned you probably has something to tell you that can actually help to strengthen your individual self, and is maybe more reliable than watered down ideologies.
I'm not a part of some Peterson cult of personality I just agree with some of the man's points
I'm telling you man, look up Jordan Goldstein on twitter, or any of the professors that run in Peterson's circle.
Peterson is very sophisticated in his approach, but the fact remains, he wants to strip away real intrinsic forms of identity, IE, Race, Nation, Blood and replace it with this minority of One (and anyone who agrees with me) form of hyper-individualism.
Plus, that whole "rescue the father" "pinochio into the whale" bit was from YEARS ago, his whole message has changed, on twitter he flat out proclaims that the push towards tradition is about preserving "unearned identity" and that it's "destructive"
A total 180
literally ayn rand bootstraps tier baby reddit philosophy
I feel very sad for people ITT and elsewhere, that never had a grandma to tell them ''clean your room'' and feel this is some kind of divine philosophy they need to brainstorm about and Peterson is a savant dropping unique knowledge on the rest of us.
I miss you mummi.
>on twitter he flat out proclaims that the push towards tradition is about preserving "unearned identity" and that it's "destructive"
"Resisting genocide = wanting unearned identity and living in the past, goy!"
"Clean your room buckaroo!"
He would be the first to say that he’s not so much generating new thoughts as he is synthesizing from mountains of wisdom from the past about how to lead a good life.
The reason his message appeals is because many people have seen what spiritual and moral anarchy has done to our civic character and are interested in those lessons.
Whether or not you enjoy his stuff I think he deserves some credit just for being a thoughtful public intellectual in an incredibly small-minded and reactive age.
I mean, the Joe Rogan eps with him... just the IDEA that a couple of adults can sit in a room and talk about controversial topics for hours instead of condensing it into Tweets and sound bites... it’s a small thing, but it really gives me hope.
illuminati are setting him up to take over canada
He's a soyboy
im not a woman.
National Socialist Canadian Labour Revival Party.
He doesn't talk about the JQ honestly because he would reach tne answer that IDENTITY, COMMUNITY and IN-GROUP PREFERENCE matters.
His whole point of
> Jews are high iq that's why they are dominant.
Is comprobable bullshit.
He is dishonest in that account.
Don't take my wrong, I like Peterson 90% of the time and I think he is and hypocrite about race, jews and in-group preference.
I think that he lie because he is trying to avoid a real and dangerous conflict. I think that he thinks that the destruction of white people (europeans and their desceendants) is NECESSARY for peace.
I think that is wrong, is an unjustice and even evil.
It's not just about "peace". It's about what is right.
A group of people have the right to have their identity and to defend their people.
>posting all this just to convince yourself you don't need to clean your room
This.
Listen to what people say, but look more closely at what they do. Peterson's wife and associates are Jewish. If his wife is Jewish (as stated - yet to see conclusive proof), then his kids are Jewish. He has skin in their game now. Our interests are no longer his interests.
Agree.
>Jews are high iq that's why they are dominant.
There are more White geniuses than there are Jews in total.
They dominate because of unchecked in-group preference. It's unchecked because we're not all to criticize them in any form or Anti-Semitism.
JBP isn't a brainlet. He can't escape this conclusion. His deception can't be explained by ignorance - it's malice.
>Haven't really made my mind up on it yet.
then read more you bong faggot
Peterson is /ourguy/
/leftypol/ is trying to character assassinate him constantly
>in all fields
Peterson is a very conflicted person attempting to give advice to other conflicted people. He would be laughed at 50-60 years ago for his attempts at philosophy. He qualifies to regurgitate and interpret psychology and historical figures for his students however. He is intelligent but borders on a pure charlatan often. I would enjoy having a drink with him, but I would never feel inclined to take up philosophical opinions from him.
You're not getting a fascist ethnostate for Christmas, dude.
>/leftypol/
Those guys real big on race realism?
his uni lectures are good for most of the part. now he became an e-celeb, swimming in donations and that is about it. i check his q&a from time to time since he does have few valid points due to his academic expertise.
and bong, forget about the room - you must venture into the belly of the whale and save your father, then face the dragon and slay, save the princess.
He just says common sense shit
The moment he is presented with a question that would force him to leave a sour taste in some of his fanboys he just dances around it. He is just another cuck looking ti make money off of bastard sons desperatly looking for a father figure. Its honestly disgisting
>anyone who disagrees with Peterson is just a loser who doesn't have a job
All Nazi meme flag fags are one of (((them))). You can't contribute if you are not a powerful individual. Clean your room and ignore all kike posters.
Why is Peterson an outspoken supporter of jewish collectivism (Zionism and the state of Israel), but is critical of White collectivism?
I mean i think cleaning your room is pretty important. A messy room is a projection of your character and your mind. Peterson is a modern prophet. I've listened to him speak for hours and i just feel like a different person now.
The only problem is that he is in a field which is known for having work that isn't reproducible, so I take most everything he has to say with a grain of salt, but I don't really listen much to him, anyway. He seems like a reasonable guy overall, anyway.
hehe epic bro! pewdiepie is soooo much subtle and based with his red pills :) he's going to turn kids into /ourguys/ and not dumb goys. god I hate (((((((them)))))))))) urgh, they're destroying our race :(
nice flag! i'm also a national socialist. we need to purge this degeneracy from the earth and it starts right here on Sup Forums by discussing e celebs :) :)
Sup Peterstein cultist.
Care to shed some light on this question for us?
I shit you not there is a Jordan Peterson discussion group near me.
I think he's a crypto Jew.
Don't ever be a sicophant of anyone. Discover someone, consume his ideas and thoughts and stay on lookout for what he gets wrong. Disregard him if you want, but give credit for what he gets right.
The most retarded thing on this board is the obsession with ideological purity, like you want some demigogue who gets everything right and has all the answers along the lines of Joseph Stalin, Mao or Kim Il Sung.
He is doing good enough of a job combating the left wing the way he is. Anyone who is a sceptical thinker will know to move on at some point, we have no need for anyone who finds one thinker they like and stick with him no matter what.
The demands of you people that he mainstream anti-semitism just so he becomes /ourguy/ on a forum of shit-postimg internet-racists, none of whome will every make near as much of a difference as he does in a single day is flat out retarded.
>I shit you not there is a Jordan Peterson discussion group near me.
What the fuck, what does that even mean?
Can you elaborate a bit on what their aims are?
Tell me, are you aware of the concept of controlled opposition?
If so, why do you have a problem with people trying to determine if someone is a controlled opposition agent?
Also, have you ever taken a look at any of the arguments people have made for why he might be controlled opposition, or at the very least why they disagree with his positions and think that they are harmful to our survival?
Cuck with some catchy motivational speaker memes. That's all.
>clean your room
>wipe your ass
The man's a inspirational genius!
You know who had lots of responsibility? Slaves.
he knows he'll be crucified for naming the jew so he's doing the best he can. What good is he if he gets banned from all public discourse.
No one person/ideology has all the answers. He's a great little nugget of wisdom, but not some guy to be worshiped.
>What's your stance on his 'REEE CLEAN YOUR ROOM' philosophy? Haven't really made my mind up on it yet. On one hand he comes across as a defeatist 'keep your head down' proponent, on the other hand this philosophy can ring true in some cases. One example being those two Floridian kids sperging out about gun control.
So, is this LITERALLY, "Like peterson or you like gun control"?
How fucking pathetic can you get, really?
because it's basic life stuff, it keeps your head down living the way everyone else does leaving you ignorant to the bigger things. Peterson seems to dislike people looking at the bigger things.
He is working undercover. Selling redpills while pleasing his jewish masters. It all keeps tumbling down.
looking for this image of that greek dude fighting a snake/dragon like creature in the water? anyone?
This guy right there gets it.
> t. Daddy Jojo's internet defence force.
It isn't "clean your room" it's "respecting your own shit enough to take care of it."
>It isn't "clean your room" it's "respecting your own shit enough to take care of it."
I thought it was pronounced: "Mind your own damned business"
100%
Well, roughly speaking.
>He is working undercover. Selling redpills while pleasing his jewish masters. It all keeps tumbling down.
Provide me with some evidence.
He's a regular on (((Fox News))) now. You are arguing that he has duped the entire jewish MSM machine.
Let me guess, you think Alex Jones is /ourguy/ as well?
Where most advice stops at being a directive he gives reason to why it is profound to follow standard advice that most youth probably scoff at. Especially in a modern western world where traditional values are being upturned left and right. He is acting as in anchor in a world where society is debating and fighting for transgender bathrooms in almost every public venue.
That said I personally thought his willingness to interpret mythos in his own fashion & also believe in dream interpretation has me question his ability to cut thru most of the bullshit.
I give him some credit for at least touching the JQ. Can't remember which one of his patreon Q&As he touched upon it. He at least gave an answer where most people would accuse anti-semitism of the questioner and retreat.
I view him as a mostly for the better of civilization.
I don't owe you any evidence. Fox news are our guys, so is AJ. The all out war is on.
Also check my trips.
