When will you fags actually take the redpill and realize that IT'S FUCKING GENETICS. Numales/soyboys/etc aren't victims of society, they're genetic garbage, nothing can be done about it. The reason they turn to feminism is to cope with sexual failure, they hope that if they're progressive enough they may get a fat SJW gf or something, lifting won't help 99% of them because they have subhuman baby faces and are manlets. It's over. There's a reason you don't see nu-males that look like Gandy.
He's right you know. These sort of people have always existed in history. It's just that in previous ages, they tended to die very quickly or be cast down to the bottom of society.
From a Darwinian perspective they are failed humans and genetic garbage. They survive in this age due to modern convenience and a different set of demands. Life has been made significantly easier, and so even the most embarrassing example of humans can survive and even succeed in some cases.
Just remember, everybody can be useful, especially a weak skinny suicide bomber.
Xavier Jenkins
well atleast you admit to being a shallow materialistic fuckwit that can't see beyond what you can touch like the stupid ape you are
Juan King
its actually environmental since men had much higher testosterone in the past /on average/
David Edwards
>le Darwinian broscience from a fucken burger We (decent people everywhere) are trying, and doing very well, at making the world a place where lies, corruption, violence and savagery are detrimental to your future. If you happen to be low status in the resulting civilization, of course you want to revert to ancient, discredited nonsense like totalitarianism and brute force lawlessness. So much of Sup Forums is just failures who want to burn the current world down and sit on the top of what's left. It's an attitude that doesn't work anymore and has been working less every decade since about 40,000BC
No mammal liberates more estrogen into the environment via sweat, breath and urine than a stallion. This very recent internet retardation that holds that amount of testosterone = amount of masculinity is tendentious and simplistic. It's hormonal balance that explains why high test can lead to a man being 5'3", going bald at 18, then developing cancer in his 40s. It also explains why women act so badly on alcohol, since their balance is tipped towards what men are used to controlling, while alcohol drops a man's testosterone steadily the longer he drinks. >men had much higher testosterone in the past pure made up mythology with no way of even arguing about it, there being zero stats. As bad as the SJW myth of ancient matriarchy being peaceful and environmental and co-operative. Made up without any evidence to even analyse.
Why do retards think that testosterone is this magical hormone that will transform your bone structure and turn you from a nerd into an uber chad.
The visually noticeable effects of testosterone on your physique are pretty minor.
Caleb Phillips
most of Sup Forums can't handle this redpill
Camden Campbell
Wasn't zyzz an ectomorph?
He looks nothing like the left.
Is there a specific set of workout routines I should to try and get the end result of looking like the right?
Or is this 100% genetic? I have pretty broad shoulders, but I'm skinny and not so tall. Working out and getting fit is my #1 priority before going out and fighting.
Jacob Reed
>flip channels >its a young woman doing fitness stuff >stared at her ass and legs whole time >tune out whenever women talk to me >hold back laugh when interviewer for jobs brings up sexual harassment training
Im not gonna get a steady relationship in my lifetime lmfao fucking pol ruined me.
>The visually noticeable effects of testosterone on your physique are pretty minor.
lmfao
Brody Garcia
It's a mixture of genetics and society. Blood and culture. Nature and nurture.
Cameron Butler
So low testosterone and man child behavior is because of genetics?
Camden Baker
Genetics did not cause a 50% drop in testosterone in 2 generations.
Blake Smith
>The visually noticeable effects of testosterone on your physique are pretty minor. No they aren't, and the mental effects are even greater
Aiden Lee
partly true, but there has been a dramatic decrease in masculinity in the last few decades, and it's highly related to exposure to endocrine disrupting chemicals found in most modern materials. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3220783/ read the part about anal-genital distance.
presence of testosterone makes a dramatic difference in the womb, during childhood, and adolescence.
Elijah Taylor
Right is not even that muscular, i dont even think you need to go to the gym or have a routine to look like that person which is kind of the point of this thread, the reason he looks the way he does is mostly because of his bone structure ie genetics
Robert White
It's possibly an epigenetic effect where an easy lifestyle is causing each generation to be weaker than the last. Something to do with the placenta according to Varg: youtube.com/watch?v=7eilZTgurr4
Agreed. We could spend all day pontificating about the tragedy of genetics, or we could try and foster a culture of strength so that no man has to go through the curse of weakness.
Kayden Russell
>of course you want to revert to ancient, discredited nonsense like totalitarianism and brute force lawlessness that is what is happening. totalitarianism is being achieved through mass media and consumerism. the brute force lawlessness of underclass city dwellers will accelerate the totalitarianism.
>It's an attitude that doesn't work anymore and has been working less every decade since about 40,000BC what is the 20th century
Julian Lewis
There is no need to pontificate on genetics as it is a weak man’s excuse for not achieving. We are in agreement, the cultivation of strength starts first in the mind, and must be steeled before it can be physically manifested.
Blake Perez
My test is around 500 and I feel like complete shit, altough I probably have some other underlying condition.
Ethan Richardson
500 is low for a young guy
James Butler
>500 is low for a young guy
I'm not that young (I'm in my 30's), and when I was younger I used to have a raging libido. Now I'm basically asexual, but it's probably something autoimmune related. I'm going to get tested next week.
Grayson Bailey
Left: genetic reject Right: faggot
Nathan Cooper
I can tell this faggot never heard of mewing.
Listen up OP. You can change your face. You can hypertrophy the jaw muscles, and over time your jaw will become more square, and the degree of upward tilt will decrease.
By practicing oral posture (tongue on the roof of mouth), your maxilla can be pushed upward, giving you shapely cheekbones and a better nose. Your dental arches will widen, and your teeth will straighten.
What you eat has a generational affect too. Look up modern vs traditional diets in the face over generation.
>nothing can be done about it Genetics can be influenced by environment dumbass...They can be influenced by food FFS. >lifting won't help 99% of them Not if they're lifting for whores (actually that's untrue), but that's not the reason a man lifts.
Charles Morgan
If I'm a female with lots of androgens (adult acne, I grow a lot of hair but wax/shave it regularly, etc), will my mind change if I go through hormone therapy to have less test? Will it make me more liberal?
Nathan Ross
I'm bald and have dont have low test. It's genetic like op says.
Testosterone has an incredible effect on your body
Ryder Evans
this is what I wanna know lol
Liam Cox
I didnt say it increased bone you fucking faggot amerimutt I said it increased the muscle. The masseter will get bigger.
Jack Rodriguez
>according to varg yeah I'll take that with a huge fucking mountain of salt
Josiah Thomas
It is mainly genetics with some environmental factors. We have so many different ways for compensating for our genetic deficiencies that our gene pool has been polluted with garbage. The only hope we have now is genetic therapies.
Aaron Phillips
Urine therapy unironically is very effective at treating a myriad of ailments desu
These people didn't exist even 30 years ago, and if they did they wouldn't die any quicker than they do now
William Young
>I'm not that young (I'm in my 30's), and when I was younger I used to have a raging libido. Now I'm basically asexual, but it's probably something autoimmune related. I'm going to get tested next week. Are you me? I was extremely high test more than anyone else my age I was 6'3 at 14 and naturally muscular and then at 22 suddenly it fizzled out and I became more soyboy than a soyboy. I think if you bloom early and really hard you "burn out" your body quick.
"The candle that burns twice as hot burns twice as fast" ?
Angel Foster
"It's not a plot by those who just happen to benefit enormously from these events! It's all completely natural!"
Same shit every guilty group spews when they're caught.
Parker Martinez
>weston a price was right >polfags not knowing about vitamin k2
Piss is what remains after cleaning up the blood (~and other bodily fluids~), in principle it should be anything but safe (it's all the grime and germs that were taken out during filtering, plus water).
Implying men who obsess over their bodies aren't insecure or gay Feminism is cancerous tho will agree
William Powell
>vitamin k2 elaborate.
Gavin Collins
>still didn't hear of the nice gentleman at viriculture.com
take the epigenetic pill, shit genes were flushed out hundreds of thousands of years ago
Nicholas Perry
vitamin k2 is a steroid hormone similar to vitamin d3 in a way in that i regulates calcium and a whole host of other bodily functions. one of these functions is good facial development in the womb and during the formative years all the way to puberty.
Men are the most violent and have been throughout history. Pretty much all of the disgusting things human beings have done to eachother in the past was doine my men.
A little estrogen in the water supply is a good thing, men honestly need it.
thank you. i'll have to try it. i've tried like 100+ supplements but k2 was never on the radar. DHEA is one of the few supps i've tried that work. when i use it i found leaving a triple dose of the powder on my tongue for a few minutes first somehow gives me a rush of energy stronger than 3 monster energy drinks but at the same time feel very overheated.
Ayden Lopez
500 is soy tier, faggot
t. 1100 non beta male
Jayden Price
Why is western lifestyle decreasing the amount of k2 intake?
Jeremiah Anderson
DHEA apparently sends testosterone and hgh throught he roof it's a wonder it's not illegal. but it also sends estrogen through the roof if you don't use an estrogen inhibitor. i worked out on it and got more in shape than I ever was. random people were coming up to me commenting about my physique. that's how i know i made it. but then i stopped using it and basically became a soyboy for a while because they say it cuts your natural test off just like steroids.
then I used an herb called Yohimbine HCI to cut body fat and it actually works too I got so lean random people were commenting how lean I was unprovoked. that's how I know i'm not imagining shit. out of the 100 supps i've tried those are 2 of the 7 or so that actually do anything
Kayden Hill
I can confirm this, urine has a lot of vitamins and was a popular thing in india before pooping the streets
Brody Gonzalez
>I was extremely high test more than anyone else my age I was 6'3 at 14 and naturally muscular and then at 22 suddenly it fizzled out and I became more soyboy than a soyboy.
Loss of libido is a common consequence of a host of conditions. Go to the doctor especially if you have other symptoms like brain fog, headeaches, weakness, joint pain and the like.
Jack Phillips
100+ supps over a 10 year period I'm 30 years old now i've had time to try a lot
i started with multi vitamins needless to say they didn't do shit now i'm graduating to some really esoteric shit like Ormus MonoAtomic Gold Particles (lmao) because it's the only thing left I haven't tried.
Yes. I'm actually ingesting gold.
Ian Campbell
It's actually plastic microbeads that is fucking all people living in first world countries.
Genetics play a role, but the decisions you make in your life have a huge impact on your physical appearance, just look at Amanda Bynes for example.
Jackson Wright
Look at old pictures of men in any profession from more than 50 years ago. You won’t find a soy boy. Not one. If it was genetic you would see just as many as you see today. There is peer reviewed evidence of massive testosterone and sperm count decline across western populations. You are fucking retarded.
Benjamin Cruz
>there are people in this thread who unironically would consider themselves alpha
lmao
Cooper Phillips
well not to sound like a k2 merchant but i have been somewhat obsesses with this stuff. it promotes testicular steroidogenesis. boosting test without that lutieninzing hormone bullshit causing aromatase. in other words in stimulate test production in the testes not the pituatary gland and blocks estrogen. might be the holy grail of vitamin supplements for test
I don't feel blood engorged my penis . Porn is kind of the problem
Luis Perry
If this were true, they wouldn’t have reproduced in prior generations and would have been bred out. Look at soy boys, then look at their dads. Their dads may look a little faggoty, but not nearly as faggoty as their sons. The more feminine among us may be affected most severely by all the things deveatating masculinity, but that’s not why the average test and sperm counts have been dropping for the last 50 years. That’s not how natural selection works.
Jason Parker
>IT'S FUCKING GENETICS. (((somehow))) the genetic garbage you talk about seems to happen so much lately :DDD despite all our 'progress' :DDDDD
>IT'S FUCKING GENETICS B-but other exhibited characteristics aren't, right? Those are nurture :DDDD ok Doc
